The following is a post made by a user(7im, not a mod) at the folding-community forums:
Okay, enough with the violins. Enough with the points whine-n-cheese-fest. It's way past being very old. We heard you the first time, and the second, and third, & fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh time, etc. Stanford has always said the mix of work units would be in constant change. I am NOT saying that your complaint is invalid, just really stale.
Start thinking up some solutions and quit your complaining. We are all here for solutions, right? Well start acting like it. Since you all can't seem to get the job done, here it is.
Fact. Intel compiler won't work on AMD chips. AMD compiler won't work on Intel chips. And it only applies to Windows clients.
Option 1 (already suggested before): Split the Windows client. One for Intel users and one for AMD users. Still, that takes a year for Stanford to develop, test, and release, but it is a valid option. Take a long chill until then, but problem solved.
Option 2: Trade all of your AMD boxes in for Intel computers, and problem solved. What? Too drastic? Fine, try this one...
Option 3: Switch all of the AMD boxes to linux. The linux client doesn't check for CPUIDs. Problem solved. Still too drastic, fine....
Option 4: Run the F@H client and another DC project at the same time to make sure your fancy "under utilized, it's such a waste" processor gets worked to death. Problem solved.
Option 5: Don't run F@H at all. Problem solved.
Option 6: Have some patience. Stanford heard you the first time. They may not fix it tomorrow, but they always try to do the best they can to make the project work for everyone. This option is called "Do nothing, and wait for a new option." Problem solved, eventually.
Unless anyone has any better ideas, those are your options. Pick one.
And my original response:
7im wrote:Option 5: Don't run F@H at all. Problem solved.
Well thanks, I think Ill take that one. You just dont get it, do you? I and others have already said that while points are nice and all it doesnt really matter. I am not just thinking of my boxes, but the tens or hundreds of thousands of others out there being underutilized also.
I understand this is not Pandegroup's fault and there my be nothing they can do about it, but while were all spinning our tires here, my grandpa is dying of colon, liver, and lung cancer because he worked in a dynamite factory all his life, and I already lost my cousin to leukemia when we were 13. Thats why I fold, points are fun but ultimately I dont give a crap about them. I just want to help this research progress as fast as possible.
How's that for your violin, 7im? If this is the attitude the users have in the project and the mods dont care either, then I think the 230 US Bank locations I was borging will be better spent helping ppl who understand what we're fighting for.
Everyone should take a minute to read this post on the sourceforge dev blogs http://blog.dev.sf.net/index.php?/archi ... bles..html .
When I said i would take option 5, i was being facetious, but 7im's assertions that users who are trying to do a good thing being "whiners" really upset me. This post was edited moments later by mod to read:
. . . EDIT by Mod:
Since you've already decided, we don't need to hear the rest of your rant . . . no matter what else you had to say.
There is no longer any way we can figure out how to help you.
I dont get it.
You can view the thread for full context herehttp://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?p=109801#109801.
Now I warned in the title this could be a rant so I hope it can stay as is, because i get nothing from ranting, i just would like the folks at pandegroup to be a little more understanding of their users wishes. Now I dont intend on leaving(my personal boxes will still contribute), because I still love the team here and believe in the cause, but like TheBank and OC-AMD, I dont feel comfortable asking my future father-in-law to run F@H at the 230 banks he runs until I feel that if a problem comes up as it did for TheBank and OC-AMD that Pandegroup will be there to help. This may be one of many possible reasons ppl dont hang around longer. Have others had similar experiences when venturing onto the Pandegroup's forums?