1333MHz FSB Core 2 Duos benchmarked

The folks over at HKPEC have managed to get their hands on some unannounced Core 2 Duo processors with front-side bus speeds of 1333MHz instead of 1066MHz. We heard rumors about these chips last October, and the processors tested by HKEPC have the same specs. This rumored 1333MHz FSB Core 2 Duo lineup, which will supposedly hit stores in the third quarter of this year, includes models E6850, E6750, and E6650, which have respective clock speeds of 3GHz, 2.66GHz, and 2.33GHz with 4MB of L2 cache.

In its evaluation, HKEPC benchmarks the E6850 and E6750 models in a variety of apps including Cinebench 9.5, DivX 6.2, LAME, PCMark 2005, WinRAR, Battlefield 2142, and Doom 3. The Core 2 Duo E6850 has a definite edge over the existing Core 2 Extreme X6800, but it does also have a slightly higher clock speed (3GHz vs. 2.93GHz). At the same speed, the faster front-side bus seems to matter less. According to HKEPC’s tests, the 2.66GHz Core 2 Duo E6750 is only 1.38% faster on average than the 2.66GHz Core 2 Duo E6700. Some real-world apps, like Far Cry, give the E6750 a slightly bigger lead, but there seem to be few major differences between the two chips outside of some synthetic tests.

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    • Fighterpilot
    • 13 years ago

    A 3.0GHz E6850 Conroe for $ 269 Yikes! thats amazing.
    Intel’s economy of scale production lands a hammer blow to performance CPU prices.

      • green
      • 13 years ago

      to be taken with a grain of salt of course
      i’m sure the numbers will settle *[

        • Proesterchen
        • 13 years ago

        The only thing that might precede the Q3/07 cuts (though not the Pentium E and Celeron 400 sequence introductions) would be initial QC Opteron shipments, recently delayed to “end of summer”.

        Personally, I think Intel’s Q3/07 cuts will come before that ever happens, but that’s just my own, personal, wild guess.

    • Krogoth
    • 13 years ago

    SPOOFE, nice trying to get into an argument that was already beaten to death.

    Next time, try to get there when it is in heat. 😉

    • Ricardo Dawkins
    • 13 years ago

    Real Madrid 3 – Barcelona 3

    So much about a winner..right

    • Fighterpilot
    • 13 years ago

    #17 My E6600 2.4GHz Conroe overclocks to 3.689GHz on stock voltage.
    Thats more than a 1.2 /[

    • NotParker
    • 13 years ago

    If Intel is tinkering with the FSB already with little return is the C2D maxxed out?

      • Krogoth
      • 13 years ago

      No, the C2D isn’t limited by the FSB. It is limited by 65nm process which leaks like SOB when you overvolt the silicon and clock it aggressively.

      Intel is trying to avoid, until 45nm parts are ready for the market.

    • BoBzeBuilder
    • 13 years ago

    Am I reading right? $266 for a 3GHz Conroe? Me ready to hand my hard earned cash to intel.

      • cloh2083
      • 13 years ago

      That’s per unit K, probably only when you buy in bulk. I hardly think retail prices will be that low.

        • mongoosesRawesome
        • 13 years ago

        per 1K is usually pretty close to what online stores charge, sometimes higher

      • Krogoth
      • 13 years ago

      Sounds too good to be true, unless Barcolina design proves to be a powerful compentior.

      A more realistic MSRP for E6850 would be around $300-400 USD.

        • Proesterchen
        • 13 years ago

        Haven’t Conroe’s current prices told you anything? They were widely regarded is “too good to be true” when first rumored, and still, they held true.

          • Krogoth
          • 13 years ago

          I am going by past history when Intel gets the crown back. They are trying to milk as much as they can off the 65nm parts until 45nm is ready for retail channels.

          AMD did the same thing when A64x and X2s were top dogs. I expect the same thing to happen for Intel, unless AMD’s answer to C2D is one hell of a performer.

            • Proesterchen
            • 13 years ago

            At this point, and with Conroe yielding and producing bins as it does, gaining market segment share is apparently of utmost importance to Intel, and I guess limiting AMD’s upside potential is a very welcome side-effect.

            Apropos AMD, they got to be scared s**tless right now, seeing as Intel will be >90% MCW in Q3, and has these pricecuts lined up, too. At the same time, Barcelona wont show a meaningful contribution to their earnings this year. Dire times ahead, indeed.

            • Shintai
            • 13 years ago

            Thats why we can get a E6600 for 224$ next month? Funny way of milking the market when you price something thats aligned with your compititors top bin for that price. Intel had the crown now for 9 months, and I don´t see them milking yet. This is beyond milking..this is war. And perhaps war to the bitter end.

            • Krogoth
            • 13 years ago

            $225-250 MSRP sounds right for E6600 and E6550.

            • Shintai
            • 13 years ago

            Not if they are milking. Since AMD takes what? 450$ for their equal? So your logic is flawed.

            • Krogoth
            • 13 years ago

            Nice try to throw a red-herring in order to save face of a company of all things. Paging back to when A64s and X2s were king. I remember fanboys crying out “OMFG, AMD IS MILKING US!” Yet, you are saying that Intel will not do the same thing? Please remove those blue-shaded glasses.

            Intel is a corporation for starters. It’s job is make money for its shareholders. Does not make business sense to milk as much from existing product line as possible when you have the edge over the compention? Intel is the original master of it in the CPU ring when it is dominate player in the market (Pre-K7 days, Northwood days etc). I expect more of the same now it is current top dog.

            The only reason we are getting cheap, powerful dual-core CPUs is because of something called compention. I know that it is a difficult concept for a fanboy to grasp. If it weren’t for K7 and K8. The odds are that we will be all unwilling guinea pigs for slower, more expensive IA-64 parts.

            • SPOOFE
            • 13 years ago

            I admit that I probably haven’t dug through the processor enthusiast market as much as you have over the past several years, but I have to point out that I recall very little “AMD is milking us!” reaction from the fans. My memory, for some reason, has it going more along the lines of “DIE INTEL DIE!! YAY AMD!!”

            But with all the chemicals that pass through my gray matter on a regular basis, I always take my recollections with a grain of salt.

            The next topic of umbrage is your overly-simplistic view of corporations. Corporations don’t just try to make as much money as possible all the time. Shareholders, especially serious shareholders whom hold the most sway, have a much more long-term approach to their investment. If the CEO and board of directors and such say to the shareholders, “Our tactic is to gain/maintain marketshare, profits won’t be as high as they can”, they accept it and are happy. Shareholders of any merit aren’t stupid, and they don’t walk around with little green dollar signs popping in their eyes all day. They want stability, not huge piles of cash that may suddenly disappear in six months.

            • Krogoth
            • 13 years ago

            Wow, you are so incredibly naive to think that huge corporations prefer long-term stability over a larger, but more riskly short-term gain.

            Never underestimate the power of human nature and -[

    • IntelMole
    • 13 years ago

    Crystal ball time:
    The 1333 vs 1066 bus issue will only become significant when we move to much faster quad-cores or > 4 core chips.

    This was pretty well shown by the last review TR did, where a 1066MHz bus could keep up pretty well with the demands of the Core 2 Quads.

    How long before 8-core chips become only moderately high-end, we have bandwidth-heavy apps that can tax 8 cores well (video possibly), and we need the faster bus? 18 months?

    Of course, this might all be made a little redundant by the chip refurb Intel will do after they shrink to 45nm, where they might increase the IPC of their chip massively and leave quad cores choking on a 1066MHz bus.

      • Furen
      • 13 years ago

      Remember that Intel’s first native quad-core, Nehalem, will also have CSI and on-board memory controllers so the FSB speed will be a thing of the past with these, unless, of course, Intel decides to use a northbridge memory controller with its desktop parts, which would mean that the CSI link speed will make a huge difference.

        • Shintai
        • 13 years ago

        CSI/HT is useless for the single socket desktop. The desktop chips currently are not planned to have CSI. HT/CSI is a problem rather than a solution on the ever chaning memory field.

        • IntelMole
        • 13 years ago

        So in effect, you’re actually strengthening my point? 😀

    • Proesterchen
    • 13 years ago

    {1} q[

      • Krogoth
      • 13 years ago

      I suspect that E6850 is simply the X6800’s replacement while a “X7000, 3.33Ghz” part will take X6800’s original place.

        • Proesterchen
        • 13 years ago

        Technically, a potential 3.33 GHz part would be called the X6950, and its release would heavily depend on the need to have a faster DC part before Penryn.

        I give it a < 3% chance of happening.

          • Krogoth
          • 13 years ago

          Nah, X7000 sounds about right marketing-wise. Bigger numbers = better performance marketing scheme at its finest.

            • Shintai
            • 13 years ago

            No, X7000 is reserved for a whole other series. 45nm etc.

            • Proesterchen
            • 13 years ago

            Agreed on the X7000 part, though Wolfdale & Yorkfield would make for a very nice 8000 sequence line of SKUs.

    • Krogoth
    • 13 years ago

    The result are what I expected. C2D is more then happy with 1066Mhz FSB. I do not see 1333Ghz FSB to be important until the chips start to go beyond 4Ghz. It is unlikely to happen with 65nm chips unless Intel is willing is to deal with sky high TDP ratings.

      • moshpit
      • 13 years ago

      I don’t see any Core 2 derivatives hitting 4Ghz before Intel changes architectures again. I’m thinking Core 2 will hit 3.6Ghz before Intel has something new to bring out. Core 3/Nehalem perhaps?

    • Dude-X
    • 13 years ago

    If it does well in high end games, then the high end games market will embrace it. Otherwise the money can be spent on a decent Seaberg motherboard.

    • blitzy
    • 13 years ago

    i wonder if they OC any better, or maybe they have narrowed down speed binning and theres less room

      • Krogoth
      • 13 years ago

      1.33Ghz chips will have less overclocking headroom less on current chipsets. It is hard to say what their overclocking headroom would be on Bearlake and other upcoming chipsets. I would expect the same wall for most units (3.2-3.6Ghz)

        • Shintai
        • 13 years ago

        Why would they have less room for OC? The chips are still the same and actually alittle better. Sure some cehap MB will have a harder time. But then you could say a E6300 OCs worse than E4300….

        And I´m sure Bearlake can beat the current 2400Mhz FSB limit.

          • Krogoth
          • 13 years ago

          This may be difficult to grasp, but there are C2D chips who cannot handle sup-high FSB overclocking, however it is more likely that the motherboard is curpit for being FSB-limited

            • Shintai
            • 13 years ago

            So you blame the chips for any MB limitaion?

            • Krogoth
            • 13 years ago

            It can be ether the chip or the motherboard.

            It is more likely that the motherboard is the culpit, but do not count out the CPU itself.

    • Ricardo Dawkins
    • 13 years ago

    C2D …C2D…Barcelona…Barca…Barca (retarded)

      • Logan[TeamX]
      • 13 years ago

      What are you smoking (again)? Get away from the keyboard, moron.

      • cloh2083
      • 13 years ago

      Fanboy alert

      • adisor19
      • 13 years ago

      WTF ?!

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