Poll: Will you get a Blu-ray player now?

So, it’s over. The HD DVD camp has admitted defeat, and Blu-ray has emerged as the victorious high-definition disc format, promising to take us to a brave new world of 1080p movies and 50GB discs crammed with Linux ISOs. What does that mean for you, though? Is the end of the format war compelling you to jump on the HD bandwagon and get a Blu-ray player, or are you still waiting? That’s the question at the heart of our latest poll, which you’ll find both on our front page and further down this one. Feel free to vote and let us know where you stand.

Our previous poll was about e-mail access, and we asked you how you typically fetch your personal e-mail. 55% of voters responded saying they use web-based e-mail services, while 24% said they access an ISP e-mail account with traditional software. Another 12% also use traditional e-mail software, but with another type of non-web-based account, while only 4% of users said they primarily use handheld devices to check their mail.

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    • tommyb709
    • 12 years ago

    Standard DVDs on an upsampling DVD player on an HDTV.

    Any more is too sharp….

    • lucas1985
    • 12 years ago
    • A_Pickle
    • 12 years ago

    Why do I get the feeling that HD-DVD is going to amass a grassroots fan following like the ATRAC player? ๐Ÿ˜€

      • UberGerbil
      • 12 years ago

      It’s going to be the Amiga of video formats. Like video discs, or reel-to-reel in audio, or those vinyl fetishists. Twenty years from now you’ll still be running across these weird old guys with their carefully amassed HD-DVD collections, who won’t shut up about the superiority of the format and the conspiracy that doomed it.

    • Saber Cherry
    • 12 years ago

    I’m waiting for burners under $60, and blank discs that have less than half the price/GB as DVDs. But considering the format is from Sony, and thus the licensing fees alone are currently greater than the retail prices of DVD burners or DVD blanks, I am not optimistic.

    • Mr Bill
    • 12 years ago

    I would buy a blue-ray burner as a back up medium if the burner was <$100 and the media were cheap and archive quality. I was happy enough with DVD’s for viewing. That said, I don’t own a large high resolution TV.

    • ish718
    • 12 years ago

    Getting movies online? you mean downloading 4+ GB bluray movies?

      • Vrock
      • 12 years ago

      4gb is small even for DVDs. Anywhere from 20-40gb would be more in line with Blu-ray.

    • willyolio
    • 12 years ago

    the only blu-ray player i’m planning on getting is a BD-rom. i have no use for standalone players any more

    that said, it’s also going to take a couple of years before the read speeds increase (right now it’s only at 6x, i expect it to go up to 12-16x, at least) and prices to drop (~$50).

    seriously, reading 50GB at only 200 Mb/s? eeew.

      • Krogoth
      • 12 years ago

      FYI, BR and -[

        • willyolio
        • 12 years ago

        simply “faster than DVD” isn’t good enough when the storage capacities are 10x as large.

        DVD read speeds were faster than CDs, but that sure as heck didn’t stop a full disc-burning from being more than twice as long. and keep in mind those speeds are only at the edge of the disc… the majority of it will be much slower.

          • Krogoth
          • 12 years ago

          You still don not get it?

          DVD -/+ Rs are much faster then CD-Rs. Sure that CD-Rs could burn though a disc faster then DVD +/- Rs. CD-Rs only could hold up to 700MB of data though. Single-layer DVD +/- Rs could hold up to 4.7GB of data. You would have to burn at least seven CD-Rs to match one, single-layer DVD +/- R. Likewise, how you would need over five single-layer DVD +/- Rs to match one, single-layer BR-R.

          Not only do CD-Rs burn data at a slower rate then DVD +/- Rs, but you have to add the time it takes to swap between blank discs. The same thing will go for BR-Rs versus DVD +/- Rs.

    • bogbox
    • 12 years ago

    So many people will buy a ps3 only for the blue ray , can i pls get a the Cell processor that you won’t be using?
    thanks.:D

      • Vrock
      • 12 years ago

      What do you think is doing the heavy lifting for the blu-ray playback? ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • bogbox
        • 12 years ago

        the video card ? i wil give them a P4 , any way , a was just jokeing:))

    • Pax-UX
    • 12 years ago

    Hey! Where’s the…

    ‘So you got a PS3, will you buy any Blu Movies?’

    Option

    • PRIME1
    • 12 years ago

    Well I plan I getting a PS3.

    If not for that, I’m not sure when I would have jumped onto the bluwagon.

    Eventually for sure as I intend on getting a 1080p TV .

    • Ryu Connor
    • 12 years ago

    The end of the format war was one of the reasons I recently made the leap into HD.

    • albundy
    • 12 years ago

    chances are, I will never ever never ever get a blu-ray player. its completely useless crap as you really cant do anything but playback. I will however get a blu-ray burner.

    • odizzido
    • 12 years ago

    Where was the “No, I have no interest in getting movie players” option?

    • Chrispy_
    • 12 years ago

    People put too much stress on the codec bitrate. Most Blu-ray films are MPEG4 these days which is better suited to lower bitrates than MPEG2 ever was.

    I end up encoding raw frames from renderers using XviD at around 2Mb/s using XviD/DivX and this gives stunning quality movies at about 1GB/hour with decent quality 5-channel sound. I’m talking about native res for a 1344×768 plasma btw, so this is somewhere between 720p and 1080p.

    Sure, it’s not quite as perfect as the original lossless source but without having two playing side by side it’s not easy to tell that one is compressed. It makes me wonder why we need to move beyond DVD’s if 4+ hours of HD content fit easily onto 4.7GB.

    Hell, I think 720p is overkill for anything less than a 50″ screen and even then, 2Mb/s streams are inefficient. Stuff looks just as sharp (solid colour areas suffer if you look close enough) with modern codecs at 1.5Mb/s and then you’re into 6 hours of HD on a good old DVD!

    Maybe I’m just mad: I have DVD9’s with entire seasons on them in typical DVD-rip resolution, and that makes me warm and fuzzy.

      • Usacomp2k3
      • 12 years ago

      Are you sure you don’t mena 1366×768 ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • fpsduck
    • 12 years ago

    Yes, but not before players slip under $100
    and Blu-Ray movies not too expensive & have all my favorite flicks.

    • PetMiceRnice
    • 12 years ago

    I bought my Toshiba HD-A30 HD DVD player a couple of weeks ago for $150 CDN and don’t regret it. It came with two movies in the box – Bourne Identity and 300. While I don’t plan to buy very many HD DVD movies, the fact that this player can up-convert your regular DVD movies is nice. Of course, you could always go out and buy a regular DVD player that can up-convert and give DivX support, but I wanted to have an HD DVD player for the novelty factor down the road. No regrets here. Blu-Ray players will eventually come down in price and then I may consider one.

    • blastdoor
    • 12 years ago

    For a while I thought I’d get one, but now i think I’ll pass. I think I’ll just get HD content from Comcast for a while. Hopefully Apple will come out with an AppleTV that includes a cable-card DVR, and then I’ll switch to that.

    • Voldenuit
    • 12 years ago

    Where’s the option to buy a PS3 and use that as a Blu-Ray player?

      • JustAnEngineer
      • 12 years ago

      At your local Best Buy, Circuit City or Wal-mart.

      • indeego
      • 12 years ago

      The next 99 in that list are all DVD’sg{<.<}g

        • snowdog
        • 12 years ago

        #11,#12,#15 are also Blu Ray (and more of course).

        It is is very significant that the top selling movie is Blu Ray. Considering all the naysayers who say DVD is good enough.

        I am surprised this is happening this soon. Of course Amazon buyers are more tech savy and more in the target market, but where those buyers go the market will follow.

          • indeego
          • 12 years ago

          ah, I was looking at the “DVD” underneath the title. dohg{<.<}g

    • FireGryphon
    • 12 years ago

    I voted “No, standard DVD’s are fine” because I don’t care enough about watching movies — any movies — that I’d go out and buy an HDTV, player, and media for it. With all that, I’d need speakers, too… and better seating, and acoustics, and… movies just aren’t worth all that to me. When it’s so standard that no one sells anything else, maybe I’ll move over.

      • Bill Clo
      • 12 years ago

      I have to agree with this sentiment. Too much investment in new equipment, and the quality of new movies doesn’t warrant it. (as in re-makes, comic-book based movies, recycled old crap).

        • Vrock
        • 12 years ago

        Then buy old movies on Blu-ray?

      • BobbinThreadbare
      • 12 years ago

      It must be strange living in a black and white world.

        • Bill Clo
        • 12 years ago

        I’m satisfied as to the visual quality of my “obselete” DVD collection. I don’t have any interest in re-buying them all to get a prettier picture. I could see buying new movies in Blu-Ray if 1) I found any that I thought were worth a hoot (getting pretty rare nowadays with all the emphasis on eye-candy and lack of good plots), 2) the equipment prices were lower, 3)my current DVD player died and I needed a replacement.

        Call me a hanger-on on the fringes, biding my time.

          • Vrock
          • 12 years ago

          I have roughly 350-400 DVDs and 80 or so Blu-ray/HD-DVD. I have repurchased a few titles in HD here and there, but only when I could find them on sale at $10-15. Then again, there are DVD titles in my collection which I’ll likely never replace with HD (like Airplane 1 and 2, Evil Dead, The Naked Gun series, etc). Certain movies benefit much more from the HD treatment than others do, and for movies that aren’t a real visual experience to begin with due to filming methods, budget, or subject matter, I don’t see a need to replace them.

          • BobbinThreadbare
          • 12 years ago

          Sorry, I wasn’t very clear. By a world that is black or white, I was referring to the fact that the original poster felt that to enjoy hd picture he needed to buy all that other stuff. That there was no “gray area” of upgrading one or two things, it was all or nothing.

    • lucas1985
    • 12 years ago

    All I want is affordable Blu-Ray for backup. I don’t care for Blu-Ray as a movie delivering format.

      • no51
      • 12 years ago

      i agree. it’s time for recordable media to catch up to the astronomical capacities hd manufacturers are putting out.

        • UberGerbil
        • 12 years ago

        Last I checked a spare HD is recordable media and — amazingly — it somehow keeps up /[

          • ssidbroadcast
          • 12 years ago

          That’s the funniest thing you’ve said.

    • 2_tyma
    • 12 years ago

    i already have one, by the name of ps3.

    • Usacomp2k3
    • 12 years ago

    The $200 option was a little low…I probably would have said 250-275 were that an option.

    • Vrock
    • 12 years ago

    Wow, 35% of T/R pollsters are extraordinarily cheap.

    • DrDillyBar
    • 12 years ago

    Nope. I chose “Standard DVD is fine” but I would totally snap up a HD-DVD XBOX360 drive if I ever run across one. Blu-Ray lost the battle long ago in my books, and it’ll be years before I bother to get one.
    Edit: Because of this poll, I just pulled the trigger on one of the $50 HD-DVD drives.

    • asdsa
    • 12 years ago

    I will perhaps buy that flimsy player in the future if there is no alternative emerging format and/or dvd starts to disappear but buying a japanese toaster…, i mean ps3 is the last thing i do in this cold world.

      • Vrock
      • 12 years ago

      Does the PS3 resemble Japanese toasters? I’m confused.

        • moose17145
        • 12 years ago

        yes.. yes it does. Little known fact about Japanese toasters if that they are all large and covered in a glossy black paint. They also (just like the PS3) have a tray that slides out that you set your toast on (similar to the way a PC optical drive has a CD tray). You then push that back in, and in about 30 second to 1 minute (depending on darkness setting), the tray ejects and there sits your fresh hot toast! Geez Vrock… get with the times. I thought everyone knew that lol.

          • ssidbroadcast
          • 12 years ago

          Actually that tray would be the chief difference since a ps3 is a slot-loader (trayless).

    • MixedPower
    • 12 years ago

    I chose the ‘DVDs are fine’ option because I’m not much of a movie person. My entire movie collection consists of about ten DVDs and a few VHS tapes.

    I’ll probably get a PS3 /[

    • SpotTheCat
    • 12 years ago

    I want one for my laptop, but only if it’s built in and not insanely expensive.

      • zgirl
      • 12 years ago

      nevermind that one of the larget *[

    • Krogoth
    • 12 years ago

    I am waiting until >$199 8x BR burners to come out before jumping the gun.

      • Wrar
      • 12 years ago

      Me too, but make that price point $100. My HTPC needs an upgrade soon.

      • Usacomp2k3
      • 12 years ago

      Greater than $199?

      • Kaleid
      • 12 years ago

      200 dollars would be ok for a BR burner, but blank disks also need to be cheap enough.

    • Hance
    • 12 years ago

    I need an option that is I will buy one in six months or so in the poll. I said I would wait until the format war was over and I did. Now with spring getting close I will be so busy with work for the next six or eight months that I dont really have time to do much but work or think about work. When fall gets here and I can take a couple of months off I will pick up a Blu player of somekind. More than likely it will be the PS3 so that I can play games on it too.

    • indeego
    • 12 years ago

    Online and local grocery store for $1/day rentals. DVD’s suit me fine upconvertedg{<.<}g

    • zqw
    • 12 years ago

    Can we expect the big movies to show up this fall? LoTR? Star Wars? etc.

      • Vrock
      • 12 years ago

      LoTR? Maybe. Star Wars? Doubtful. George will wait for mass adoption before bringing out the cash cow. Heck, he waited seven years before releasing the original (well, sort of original) trilogy on DVD.

        • bthylafh
        • 12 years ago

        I wonder what modifications he’ll make for Blu-Ray, the better to adhere to his “original vision”. Maybe we’ll be able to see that Jabba’s got a coat of slime.

      • Sikthskies
      • 12 years ago

      A high definition lotr was always planned. There is going to be loads of extra footage too like bloopers. I can’t wait to see lotr in hd ๐Ÿ˜€

    • zer0
    • 12 years ago

    I’m sure I’ll get one eventually, but probably not for another couple years when they’re cheap enough. I’m happy enough with my Westinghouse L2410NM and an HD DVR from my cable provider. I just don’t watch enough DVDs to justify spending that much…

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 12 years ago

    Filed mine under “Yes, but first I have to get an HDTV” which won’t be for a while. Also, despite being declared game-abstinent, I plan on getting a PS3 for it’s future proof spec (auto updates to blu-ray 2.0). And also I like the PS3’s photo organize, showoff mode for parties/entertaining.

      • Flying Fox
      • 12 years ago

      Same situation here. The proper order IMO is:
      1. HDTV
      2. PS3

      Can the PS3 do that photo thing over the network? If yes then I may not have to plan for an HTPC too…

        • ssidbroadcast
        • 12 years ago

        Photo thing over the network

        • cobalt
        • 12 years ago

        I haven’t tried the photo think with the PS3, but it does a fine job with handling videos over the network. I think it’s all handled through universal plug ‘n play, and I’m pretty sure UPnP supports photos as well.

        In theory, I’d love to have a MythTV backend talking directly to the PS3, but the version of MythTV I’m running is too old. Instead, I’m using a Windows machine running TVersity elsewhere in the house to do the transcoding on the fly. I’ve only got the PS3 connected through 802.11g at the moment, so the bandwidth isn’t really sufficient, but it was still basically working.

          • ssidbroadcast
          • 12 years ago

          If you can access videos over a network than a folder of photos should be cake.

          • Flying Fox
          • 12 years ago

          Does that mean it can read a Windows share fine (as long as I deal with the firewall and user security)?

          If the PS3 can’t double-duty like then I’ll have to build a HTPC after the TV and PS3. Heck I may even do it just because I can always use another Folding node lol.

            • ssidbroadcast
            • 12 years ago

            Well your PS3 can act as another folding node as well, soโ€ฆ that’s covered, too.

    • packfan_dave
    • 12 years ago

    I voted for “Yes, but not before players slip under $200”, but really I’ll buy a PS3 when it drops below $300 or a game I really want comes out.

      • JustAnEngineer
      • 12 years ago

      Buy one direct from Sony on a new Sony credit card, and it’s $299.

    • Vrock
    • 12 years ago

    The “no, I’d rather get my movies online” category is silly, as it suggests an option that doesn’t exist in any legal or meaningful way. Hell, I’d rather sit on my ass and collect million dollar paychecks than work for a living, but that’s not a real-life option either. ๐Ÿ˜›

      • adisor19
      • 12 years ago

      Ever heard of iTunes ? or the Apple TV for that matter ?

      Adi

        • etilena
        • 12 years ago

        can you keep the movies you download? I thought they were for rental only. and how do you compare the HD quality of bluray to something downloaded from the internet that needs to be of reasonable size?

          • ludi
          • 12 years ago

          Actually, the stuff downloaded from Amazon Unbox performs resaonably well at full screen. And they provide a seperate mobile player encode in the same download if you want it.

        • Vrock
        • 12 years ago

        I don’t consider those to be competing with physical media, rather they complement it for mobile devices like MP3s do to CDs. The quality just isn’t there and it won’t be for some time.

          • provoko
          • 12 years ago

          Xbox 360, Amazon unbox, Vongo, and Netflix. All legal, all high quality, and there’s even High Definition available.

          Even the new Hulu.com just stepped up the game and they’re basically free with high definition too.

          12% of voters liked the option.

          Get your self out from under that rock.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            12% of TR readers liked that option. That’s a niche within a niche. I’m not impressed.

            And the quality of all those services pales in comparison to Blu-ray, and in some cases, regular old DVD.

            • provoko
            • 12 years ago

            Just admit you’re wrong and uninformed this time. Haha.

            You said downloading movies “suggests an option that doesn’t exist in any legal or meaningful way.” Very untrue. It is legal and very meaningful. AND IT EXISTS…

            When you can download high definition 720p movies without having to drive or walk to the video store to then walk endlessly around the store and finally decide a movie and then wait on line to watch or wait a few days for your netflix movie to arrive when your friends/family want to watch a movie right now…. is very very very meaningful.

            Usually Vrock you just exaggerate things, this time you said something that was completely wrong, silly actually. Hehe.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            q[

            • Krogoth
            • 12 years ago

            Don’t waste your time to persuade videophiles such as Vrock.

            They are convinced that VOID will never become mainstream, when trends in technology say otherwise.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            It’s VOD, not VOID. When are you gonna get that right? It’s just embarrasing for you. Say it with me now: VOD. VOD. VOD. Good. I knew you could.

            And I never said VOD wouldn’t become mainstream, merely that it would not any time soon, and that there’d always be a place for physical media.

            • provoko
            • 12 years ago

            I consider my self a videophile when I bought an HDTV before anyone else knew what they were. And then more so when I started downloading 720p movies.

            If Vrock is a videophile that considers 720p movies not “meaningful”, then I guess I’m a videopeon. Haha.

      • Krogoth
      • 12 years ago

      It is a valid as any of other options. I don’t expect it be a winner though.

      HD-DVD one is arguably more silly as the standard is effectively dead.

      • danny e.
      • 12 years ago

      netflix has quite a few online.. mostly older & junk, but quite a few. eventually they’ll have newer ones & better selection. I assume its the studios holding them back.

        • Vrock
        • 12 years ago

        Sure, but the quality? I’m sure they look okay on a computer monitor, but no serious movie fan wants to watch movies at his computer. And IIRC, the online movies at Netflix complement their DVD rental plan; they don’t compete with it.

          • Usacomp2k3
          • 12 years ago

          Hence the excitement about possible Netflix on TiVo and the xbox.

      • zzatz
      • 12 years ago

      There’s lots of money in legal HD downloads now, but you may not be looking in the right places. Hollywood is always behind the curve; former MPAA chief Jack Valenti compared VHS to a serial killer, and Universal sued Sony over the Betamax. Shortly after Hollywood condemned videotape, they were making boatloads from it. Hollywood will someday make money from downloads, but porn is doing it now.

      Porn was key to the success of VHS. Porn also took less time to switch from tape to DVD. If you want to see where Hollywood will be in the future, look at porn now. Porn DVD sales are stagnant; a glut of cheap crap is flooding the market and driving revenues down. Cable and satellite remains strong, and web sites and downloads are the growth sector. Hardcore porn tends to show that there is such a thing as too much resolution, so SD remains strong. But softcore HD is booming.

      There are similarities to music on the Internet. Many people are more willing to pay iTunes for individual songs rather than albums, and many people are more willing to pay for individual video scenes than feature movies. Subscriptions also play into this. There’s a lot of innovation trying to work out the best business model, and I’m sure Hollywood will get there last.

        • Vrock
        • 12 years ago

        q[

          • zzatz
          • 12 years ago

          Niche markets are leading indicators. The companies that thrive in the niches may not survive, but their ideas show the way for others. Hollywood is very difficult to break into, but any fool with a credit card and an idea can make porn. Most will fail. But new ideas, new business models, are much more likely to succeed in porn than Hollywood.

          Take Playboy as an example. When Hugh Hefner started it in the ’50s, nudity was taboo, so the magazine was clearly serving a niche. But that niche was ready to grow. After his daughter took control, she moved Playboy into TV and tapes, which soon outgrew the magazine. Last year, entertainment (TV and online) revenue was $203 million, with publishing at $94 million. But the magazine lost $7.6 million, and entertainment made $21.3 million.

          Now everyone knows that magazine publishing is dying. But Playboy showed how to move the business into areas created by new technology. Note that Time Warner failed to do the same with one of the largest magazine empires of all time, and the AOL merger was a disaster.

          Microsoft started as a niche player. So did Apple. Both have grown by observing successful niche markets, and taking over and refining those markets. That’s how mass markets are created.

          If niches didn’t matter, you’d be reading PC World, not The Tech Report.

            • Jigar
            • 12 years ago

            Agreed….

      • Usacomp2k3
      • 12 years ago

      I hate to be the one that says this, but the poll never says anything about getting the legally…

    • Nitrodist
    • 12 years ago

    I was hoping for a “Yes, eventually” option ๐Ÿ™

    • lex-ington
    • 12 years ago

    I said yes cause I am counting the PS3 I plan on getting as a blu-ray player.

    • pwdrhnd23
    • 12 years ago

    I will have one eventually, however I just ordered up an HD-A3 from Tigerdirect. I will compile a library of the titles I want and use it for an upconvert player while I wait for cheaper Blu-ray.

    • adisor19
    • 12 years ago

    Screw that. HD-DVD was the pro consumer format and sadly enough, it lost the war. There is no way in hell i’m getting a BluRay player. I’ll get my movies online. TS movies at 1080p and around 16GB are quite nice.

    Adi

      • Vrock
      • 12 years ago

      Not that I’m disagreeing with you….but if HD-DVD was the consumer friendly format, why did consumers invariably buy more Blu discs than HD discs (even for studios like Warner, which supported both?).

      Eh, doesn’t matter. It’s over now, thank Dog, and the market can grow now.

        • Krogoth
        • 12 years ago

        Blue-Ray didn’t really defeat HD-DVD because of customer influence.

        The *[

          • Vrock
          • 12 years ago

          If you’re saying the PS3 spurred Blu-ray adoption, I agree. But nobody would have purchased the PS3 if it hadn’t been a consumer friendly option.

            • Jigar
            • 12 years ago

            Sony left no option for it’s customer in selecting games in HD-DVD disc.

            PS-2 was a hit product, millions of people have it (big awareness of product in public).
            So when they upgrade they don’t care about the format of the disc. They just want the disc to run on their new PS-3, but indirectly they are adding up in the numbers of Blue ray disc sold per day.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            What are you even talking about? People who only want to play PS2 games buy PS2s. Stop this whole “Sony forced Blu-ray on the customer, ZOMG!” crap. Sony didn’t force a damn thing on anyone. They built a next gen machine that utilized a next gen format for games and movies. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to buy it.

            • Jigar
            • 12 years ago

            I never said, Sony forced anyone, i just said Sony left no option. Vrock lot of the people don’t even understand the difference between VCD and DVD, let alone be Blue ray… I don’t think most of the people who bought PS-3 just because PS-2 was a lot of fun to play, understand the difference of new disc format but yes they do add to the number of Blue ray sold. They just want the game to run, they don’t care about the format. It’s us who understand the advantages of the storage capacity that blue-ray has over HD-DVD.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            What does that have to do with anything?

            • Jigar
            • 12 years ago

            l[

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            How did they indirectly add to sales of Blu-ray discs? People make conscious decisions to purchase things like Blu-ray discs, you know.

            PS3 didn’t play any “tricks”. It sold itself as a next-gen game console and media player. People bought it as such. Where’s the “trick”?

            • Jigar
            • 12 years ago

            Before i answer your question i am address the 60%-70% of the non-techy people here.

            l[

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            q[<(To play games they purchase Blu-ray disc indirectly adding to the sales.) . Mind you they are usually not aware when they are purchasing a Blu-ray disc.. it's just a CD for them, that will work on PS 3.<]q Er, no. Blu-ray game disc sales had *[

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            I don’t care a bit who’s names are listed in the BDA. I’m looking at the man behind the curtain and that would be Sony. They developed and pushed this format when the HD-DVD group wouldn’t play nice with them, or at least do what Sony said.

            Sony has a long standing history of wanting its own format in a number of different markets. While I am glad this format war is over I am not happy Sony won.

            I will not, now or ever own a Sony product. I’ll have to live with blu-ray, but it won’t be played in a PS3 or a Sony blu-ray player.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            I see, so it’s cool for other people to develop formats, but not Sony? Blu-ray was developed independently before the DVD Forum decided to do anything with HD-DVD. Just like Betamax, Blu-ray was first. What’s the problem? Oh that’s right, Sony’s *evil*. Pfft.

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            Did I say they were evil? No. I just have long question their business practices for say the last 20 years. Along with a very monopolistic view point on what a consumer should be doing. Thus I refuse to buy their products.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            Was Toshiba’s viewpoint was any less “monopolistic” than Sony’s?

            Newsflash: corporations want you to buy their products, and will design and market their products to achieve this goal.

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            I’ve have already stated my view points on Sony and media formats in these very comments, if you can’t understand the fact that Sony has long sought control of the format that you listen/watch your media on then there is no explaining it to you.

            As for the newflash, that you Captain Obvious. And just because a company makes something for whatever reason. Doesn’t mean I have to like the product or even buy it. Oh I believe that is called freedom of choice.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            q[

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            Betamax, Memory sticks, Mini disc. I think that is credible enough.

            All companies do it, and I never said that when they do it is cool. But none have tried as long and has hard as Sony.

            Seriously stop putting words into my mouth and stop belittling my opinion. Your entitled to disagree but stop thinking you are right. It is a matter of opinion. End of story.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            What specifically was wrong with Sony introducing Betamax, Memory Sticks, or Minidisc? All were decent enough products in their own right. I don’t understand the dislike for Sony just because they introduce new formats.

            I’m not belittling your opinion, I’m trying to understand your reasons for having it. They seem, at best, inconsistent.

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            Then don’t even bother anymore. If I have to explain it to you there is no point. All three of those are obvious reason.

            But since you asked. 2 of the 3 are dead formats. One only working in Sony products. The only live product only works in Sony products. How many memory sticks do you have? And how many do you use in non-Sony products.

            And I am not going to explain why, again, since I already have.

            • Krogoth
            • 12 years ago

            This is one hell of a train wreck.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            Your posts usually are.

            • Krogoth
            • 12 years ago

            Pot calling the kettle black

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            Did your parents have any children that lived?

            • Krogoth
            • 12 years ago

            Heh, pulling the ad hominem card.

            The real question is why are you getting so worked on somebody else’s opinion and value on a media format?

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            So…you hate Sony and Blu-ray (which won) because previous Sony products have been beaten by other technologies?

            What planet do you live on where this makes sense?

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            Seriously you are an idiot.

            Did I say I hated blu-ray? Please point out where I did. No I am not happy Sony is the major player behind blu-ray. But, I’ll live with blu-ray. I happy either format won since a format war should have never happened in first place.

            If you are going to continue to put words into my mouth you also need to take your head our of your ass.

            You are not right. You only have a differing opinion. Stop acting otherwise.

            • Vrock
            • 12 years ago

            I’m the idiot? Let’s recap: You’re the one who has been unable to intelligently convey your reason(s) for being unhappy that Sony is the primary backer behind Blu-ray. Perhaps if you could clearly articulate your position, I wouldn’t have to try to extrapolate it from a bunch of nonsense?

            All you have done is complain about how Sony has released other media formats (just like other companies) some of which have failed (just like other companies)…as if that somehow logically connects to your distaste for them releasing a successful format. Your ego won’t let you accept the stupidity of your position, so you get pissed off at me for pointing it out to you. That’s fine. We’ve obviously reached the limit of what can be accomplished with this discussion, so I’m moving on.

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            Yes you are, since all you do is ignore what I have said previously and extract out of context just what you want from my last post.

            Yet I have the ego. *roll*

            Let’s review. I don’t like Sony’s business practices. How many electronics companies do you know have a music company, movie company. Nevermind they have introduced a media format to compete against every format. Even when there is an accepted and universal standard already in place. Not to mention DRM control they want to introduce. Along with fiasco’s like rootkit.

            You don’t have to like the reasons I don’t like Sony. But you are not right nor am I wrong. Similar arguments can be had regarding Ford/Chevy. People disagree all the time regarding products and companies.

            Yet your ego will not allow to see it is a differing of opinion. No, typical Vrock egotistical response of I am right, you are wrong. Act like a dick win by attrition.

            I’d have better luck explaining to a blind man why he smells like urine on a windy day.

            This discussion is over.

            • indeego
            • 12 years ago

            Hey guys/[

            • green
            • 12 years ago

            wow….. just wow…..

            you realize not all of sony’s formats come out as a competitor to an “accepted and universal standard already in place”
            sometimes it just comes out because the “standard” in place is becoming stagnant (otherwise we’d be back on vhs & cassette tapes)

            betamax was on market before vhs (and is apparently still in use in non-consumer areas)
            compact disc was co-developed with philips in 1983 to replace existing cassette tapes (spun off of laserdisc, and gave way to the discman)
            3.5″ floppy disc was generally the successor of the 5.25″ floppy disc (last of the floppies that actually were floppy rather than rigid)
            toshiba came up with Super Density disc. sony/philips were coming up with their own but joined toshiba and the format became DVD in 1997.
            minidisc came out as a competitor to philips digital compact cassette (was like CD but smaller, more lossy, could record)
            sony came out with memory stick after CF/SD, so yes they were (and still are) trying to push their own standard on the solid state memory market
            SACD came out before DVD-Audio (different to DVD-video, both being audio only formats)
            sony introduced UMD. overall there is still no standard for plugin media on portable devices (see cf, sd, micro-sd, memory stick, etc) but UMD so far on lives in the PSP
            hd-dvd came to market before blu-ray (however the hd-dvd format itself only came up because toshiba et al didn’t like blu-ray and went for their own)
            the whole reason for blu-ray/hd-dvd being of course because of the introduction of hd-displays as well and hd-content not fitting onto dvd

            as for betamax/mini-disc/memory stick being dead only living in sony products, i can’t really say much about betamax, but i’ve still got my panasonic mini-disc player/recorder and NEC phone with memory stick expansion slot
            sony updated MD with Hi-MD which apparently stores 1gb of “data” (not just atrac) which overall was too little too late given the rise of the ipod
            and memory stick is now up to 8/16gb storage which ain’t too bad, except that’s it’s still expensive compared to the alternatives

            as for the drm/rootkit fiasco, in all seriousness if sony hadn’t done it then someone else would have
            it was more a question of who was going to bite the bullet first

            • zgirl
            • 12 years ago

            Thank you Captain Obvious. There is nothing there I didn’t already know. I haven’t always disliked them. But the more they do the more I got irritated until I can’t stand them anymore.

    • Vrock
    • 12 years ago

    20gb PS3 here with over 50 Blu-rays. I found out a couple weeks ago that the thing plays games too (and some of them are hella fun). Who knew? lol

      • JustAnEngineer
      • 12 years ago

      Who knew?

      /[

    • BiffStroganoffsky
    • 12 years ago

    You’ll have to pry my p0rn collection…er, fine Hollywood movies on DVD out of my cold, dead…sticky hands!

      • Dashak
      • 12 years ago

      Was that really necessary?

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