AMD intros new mobile platform with HP on cue

Finally, AMD is countering Intel with a new mobile platform aimed at slim, low-cost notebooks. Previously code-named Yukon, the platform has now made its official debut: it includes a new Athlon Neo processor, an AMD M690 chipset with Radeon X1250 integrated graphics, and optional Mobility Radeon HD 3410 discrete graphics.

According to the official spec sheet, the Athlon Neo MV-40 processor runs at 1.6GHz with 512KB of cache and a 15W power envelope. AMD manufactures it using its current 65nm process, although it mounts it in a compact 27 x 27-mm package. The company doesn’t explicitly mention the number of cores, but slides from its November Financial Analyst Day said the Yukon platform would only have one CPU core.

Unlike with Via’s Nano, we apparently won’t have to wait ages for the processor to show up in actual laptops. HP has simultaneously announced the dv2, a slim 12.1″ notebook that’s “just under 1-inch thick and starting at 3.8 pounds.” Best of all, the dv2 will cost only $699 when it becomes available in April.

The dv2 will have a 12.1″ 1280×800 LED-backlit display, an Athlon Neo MV-40, Mobility Radeon HD 3410 discrete graphics, 160GB to 500GB of 5,400-RPM mechanical storage, either Windows Vista Home Basic or Windows Vista Home Premium x64, and a 92%-of-full-size keyboard. Users will be able to choose between four- and six-cell batteries, and HP will offer optional extras like a Blu-ray drive and integrated wireless WAN connectivity. Not bad considering the price and form factor. Check out the image gallery below for pictures of the system.

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    • jensend
    • 11 years ago

    Isn’t the X1250 based on R420 and PS 2.0b- 2004 technology- and doesn’t it lack a vertex shader? Won’t look too hot next to nV 9300/9400 integrated offerings…

      • OneArmedScissor
      • 11 years ago

      So, uh, I don’t know, get the one with something better?

      • Azmount
      • 11 years ago

      /[<"Isn't the X1250 based on R420 and PS 2.0b- 2004 technology- and doesn't it lack a vertex shader? Won't look too hot next to nV 9300/9400 integrated offerings..."<]/ IntEl didn't yet allowed nVIDIA to use 9300/9400 together with Atom. As a result Atom Netbooks paired with current IntEl chipset offering will be 20-100% slower than Atlon Neo solution when running CPU depended workload and 5x-10x slower when running GPU depended workload. Is it really that hard to understand?

    • matnath1
    • 11 years ago

    The 13.3″ version has an optical drive….This one therefore does not? No mention of an optical drive on the 12″ so that sort of does relegate it to netbook land and so it’s definately not cheap. For this price they should have included at slot loading dvd burner and dropped some other less vital drives ex. the media card reader and two usb ports… Bad move.

    • ludi
    • 11 years ago

    Looks like AMD may have finally figured out how to split the difference between the T&L notebook models that perform at a price, and the upmarket netbooks that add more features and price than what the underlying platform can support.

    Of course, if this strategy works, Intel can flip a switch at any time and open up a flood of dual-core Atoms paired with Nvidia chipsets, so success, if any, may have a short life.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 11 years ago

    What, not one Matrix joke?

    whoa. /Neo

      • ssidbroadcast
      • 11 years ago

      What are you trying to say, that I can charge batteries?

        • shiznit
        • 11 years ago

        when you’re ready, you won’t have to.

        well done sir.

    • eitje
    • 11 years ago

    q[

      • fpsduck
      • 11 years ago

      I feel like VIa’s Nano is kinda vapourhardware.
      I’ve never seen it on the market yet.

    • Chillectric
    • 11 years ago

    I don’t get it, is this supposed to be less powerful than a turion X2? What is the order of performance of amd processors in the mobile platform?

    • wingless
    • 11 years ago

    AMD’s new slogan: “A netbook with balls”

    Seriously though, I’m glad to see AMD get into this market. Remake Athlons with their new process and crush the Nano and Atom!

      • phileasfogg
      • 11 years ago

      “crush the Nano and Atom”??
      what parallel universe are you living in?
      At 15W, the Neo is > 2X the power consumption of the Nano and about 3X the power of the Atom.
      The Neo is not designed for $350 6-hour-life netbooks.

        • jdaven
        • 11 years ago

        Its not the power usage of a single component but the entire platform. If a 5W Atom uses a 22W chipset and a 15W Neo uses a 8 W chipset then everything is the same. Don’t look at the single component but the entire system. Also you have to look at the workload. If an Atom with intel graphics takes 3 hours to encode a movie and the Neo platform with discrete graphics takes 30 mins to encode a movie, the Neo platform wins.

        Again, don’t look at the mindboggling 5Ws of the Atoms but the entire platform power and performance for a given task. Otherwise you will be sorely disappointed in your purchase.

          • cygnus1
          • 11 years ago

          exactly, the ATI chipset uses way less power than the craptastic old intel chipset that the Atom’s are choked with

          • accord1999
          • 11 years ago

          The 22W is for the desktop chipset, not the mobile chipset. Atom netbooks idle at around 8-9W total for the entire system and use around 12-15w at full CPU load.

            • designerfx
            • 11 years ago

            Umm no, 8-9w is for the atom processor and the entire system is way above 15. This is what Jdaven was talking about.

            • accord1999
            • 11 years ago

            22W is the desktop version of the 945 chipset, the mobile version is far lower.

            For example, the EEE PC 901 gets 5.25 hours on CNET’s video playback drain test. It also has a 6600 mah,7.4v battery giving it a capacity of 48.8Whr, therefore the EEE PC 901 uses around 9.3W while playing back video.

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            • jdaven
            • 11 years ago

            You still are not understanding. Playing back a DVD movie does not take full CPU/GPU/HD load. Just because the Neo runs at 15W max doesn’t mean it will use that much to play a movie. It might also only use around 10W when playing a movie due to CPU throttling and other power saving features.

            The real comparison is running an Atom and Neo system at 100% GPU/CPU and measure two things 1) how long it takes to complete the task 2) how much total power it took. Then you simply divide and get the performance/watt which is the most meaningful measurement.

            So like I posted before, if the Neo system performs a task in 30 min and used oh let’s say 20W and the Atom system performs the same task in 2 hr and used around 10W…well you do the math, you seem so good at it.

            • accord1999
            • 11 years ago

            Yet you don’t understand the purpose of Atom, which is a dirt-cheap to produce CPU that has low power consumption and can be easily put together into an inexpensive but small package and strong enough to run typical tasks like email, word processing, etc.

            Neo may beat the Atom in performance/watt but so what? It’s higher TDP means you need a bigger, heavier cooling system. And at $699 and 3.8lbs, it’s already treading into the real notebook range where you can get dual-core C2Ds or even Celerons which will have even better performance/watt.

            • clone
            • 11 years ago

            your splitting hairs….. the “tougher cooling system” will be a cppl of extra fins of aluminum.

            the mentioned $699 price will be introductory not street….. and Atom is garbage……. yes it’s a power frugal cpu but it’s frugal on both power and performance.

            AMD’s new cpu could very well be 500% quicker in most applications and if it only consumes an extra 10 watts who cares……. seriously who cares whether the battery last 5 /12 hours vs 6 hours?

            buying an energy efficient laptop shouldn’t demand it be glacially slow as well when the potential to build something faster is available and with the AMD cpu their is that potential while Atom unless changed drastically will remain energy efficient garbage.

            • accord1999
            • 11 years ago

            /[<#24, your splitting hairs..... the "tougher cooling system" will be a cppl of extra fins of aluminum.<]/ So where are the netbooks then? /[

            • MadManOriginal
            • 11 years ago

            I think you’re both just cherrypicking stats and metrics that you deem the most important and concluding from that metric that the chosen platform is better for all people and uses. There’s no reason a medicore-performing but great battery life platform and a better-performing but shorter battery life one can’t both exist and fill different people’s needs.

            Now when there’s a platform that is at least equal in all metrics and better in some then there will be One Netbook to Rule Them All, if or when that happens though I feel the flames may be stronger due to fanboyism :p

            • clone
            • 11 years ago

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            • accord1999
            • 11 years ago

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    • ssidbroadcast
    • 11 years ago

    In other news, AMD’s Puma platform is still at large.

    Also: Why does that screen look like 4:3 aspect ratio?

      • dragmor
      • 11 years ago

      The PUMA platform is all over the place. I just bought 2 HP Puma laptops at the boxing day sales, as 14″ with discrete graphics and a 12″ tablet.

        • ssidbroadcast
        • 11 years ago

        God damn TR, why haven’t we seen any news items (or reviews) on the Puma? AMD reps need to cough it up!!

          • ludi
          • 11 years ago

          That’s the power of AMD marketing for you. If they actually wanted to spend effort promoting the platform to reviewers, or at least working with one of their partners to do so, I’m fairly certain TR wouldn’t turn down the goods.

        • Space Bags
        • 11 years ago

        Did you get the HP tablet with multitouch? How is it? I was looking into it? How’s the battery life, gaming, etc.?

          • Space Bags
          • 11 years ago

          yes, I was looking into it.

          • dragmor
          • 11 years ago

          I got the TX2522AU, which is the multi touch puma model. $1300 Oz down from $2300.

          I’m still waiting for delivery from HP (2 week delivery time). I’ll put something in the forums or otherwise when I get it. I’m kind of itching to see how low I can undervolt it. This laptop is going to more than double my current PC’s processing power.

    • slaimus
    • 11 years ago

    Why use a radeon 3410 when there is a already a IGP chipset there? That seems like a big waste. It might as well use the 780G instead of 690G+HD3410.

      • kitsunegari
      • 11 years ago

      I certainly agree that such a pairing would be a preferable configuration; not only with respect to performance but especially thermal design.

      The answer as to why they don’t is simply a function of market economics. It isn’t in AMD’s -or iNTEL for that matter- interest to offer you the best possible product for the lowest possible cost because:

      A.( it would cannibalize sales, inventory, and higher margins of the “notebook” class PUMA chipsets.

      and

      B.( I imagine that AMD still has a significant percentage of the production line at their fabs still on the older process node(690 never got smaller than 90nm if I recall): ergo they manage their 45nm transition better by keeping these lines productive: manufacturing these low margin “in-between net and note” chipsets for profit.

      Regardless I’m stoked and hope to see more OEM partners for the NEO platform- if only because I don’t care for the dv2’s aesthetics- ๐Ÿ˜‰ .

      I’m hoping for maybe something w/out the 3410 discrete card, as even the 690’s IGP should still outperform 945gs by a healthy margin and hopefully yield efficiency in the same ballpark.

      But then of course we’ve got Sammy coming out with the first NANO vx800 combo next month w/the NC20 so we’ll have to see how that stacks up too (I’m hopeful but wary of VIA’s notorious rep for iffy driver support)

      Variety is vital to the health of any ecosystem and the ATOM monoculture looks to be coming to an end in ’09!

      well that was more than i thought i had to say =b
      happy new year everyone!

    • juampa_valve_rde
    • 11 years ago

    i don’t get it… what is the big deal of releasing a low speed athlon made on 65nm (lima) with an outdated chipset and a slow gpu? i believe it would be damn simpler, power friendly and cheap to pair that processor with a 780v and done… also what is the big deal with a 1,6 ghz @15 w athlon made on 65 nm… i have a 2,6 ghz x2 with 45 w tdp brisbane, and i remember the x2 3800 2 ghz manchester core, 90 nm, 35 w…

      • octop
      • 11 years ago

      The different is low power consumption & sell cheap … that’s the 2 points. Same goes to ATOM.

    • acejj26
    • 11 years ago

    How is this different than the 2650e? Just different packaging? I think I’d rather have a 1.0 GHz dual-core Athlon than a 1.6 GHz single-core.

      • tocatl
      • 11 years ago

      Yea, i rather wait until someone make a small laptop with a Athlon X2 3250e…

    • derFunkenstein
    • 11 years ago

    “only” $700? For a netbook?

      • MadManOriginal
      • 11 years ago

      This is more like a compact notebook with (possibly) good battery life. Why they call these 12″ ones netbooks idk…to be cool maybe?

      • Hattig
      • 11 years ago

      It’s clearly an ultra-portable, not a netbook. Bigger screen. Discrete graphics. Larger storage. Slightly higher price. The “Neo” processor (clearly a 65nm single-core Athlon 64) might consume a bit more power than the Atom (although is more powerful), but the chipset hopefully is more frugal than Intels, and far more featured.

    • jdaven
    • 11 years ago

    I wonder what the total power usage of this plaform will be. This is what matters most when it comes to battery life of course, not just the power of a single component (e.g. >5W Atom CPU only). Also, discrete graphics are always welcome.

      • poulpy
      • 11 years ago

      Yes what’s relevant is the power usage of the whole platform while performing specific tasks like playing videos/songs, browsing the web, creating a spreadsheet or a text document, etc..

      • phileasfogg
      • 11 years ago

      The MV40 processor power consumption is 15W (as shown on the AMD webpage). The 690G is also built on a 65nm process- it’s power consumption will be directly proportional to a) core voltage and b) graphics (core) clock/shader-clock frequency. I would be very surprised if the 690G “typical graphics workload” power is less than 8W.

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