40-nm yields have stabilized, AMD says

Are the dismal shortages afflicting AMD’s Radeon HD 5800-series graphics cards behind us for good? We checked availability last week and found a healthy number of cards in stock, but prices were still inflated, and we weren’t sure if we were looking at a brief rainshower or the end of the drought.

So, we asked AMD. The company now tells us 40-nm yields at TSMC have stabilized, and supply of 5800-series cards should ramp up from here.

TSMC, the Taiwanese foundry that produces GPUs for both AMD and Nvidia, has been the main cause of the shortages. The firm owned up to poor yields—around 40%— in late October, but its CEO promised things would be back in order by the end of the year. Sounds like the company kept that promise.

5800-series graphics cards look downright plentiful at Newegg today: we see seven Radeon HD 5850s and seven Radeon HD 5870s in stock, although prices are still higher than they should be. (The 5850s start at around $310, 50 bucks north of the suggested retail price, while the cheapest 5870s are about $20 above MSRP.) Of course, AMD still lacks any direct competition from Nvidia on the DirectX 11 front.

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    • loc
    • 10 years ago

    Still pretty bad availability in europe. I’ve got my asus 5850 back ordered for over 2 months now. They are saying I should get my card next year.. thats just great 😉

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      I bet you could’ve just as well gone for nVidia in this manner.

    • Farting Bob
    • 10 years ago

    There is certainly more of them about than a month ago. Prices are still high, but if they have got the yeild up and the major OEM parnters have enough to keep them busy for a while, stock levels and prices will both be improving after xmas. Now all we need if nvidia to catch up and let the price war start. By the summer you’ll probably get a 5850 for $200.

    • Karkas
    • 10 years ago

    “we see seven Radeon HD 5850s and seven Radeon HD 5870s in stock”

    How can you tell how many are in stock?

      • ethompson6
      • 10 years ago

      I think they mean seven different models, not seven total.

      • ethompson6
      • 10 years ago

      . double post

    • a_non_moose
    • 10 years ago

    Hopefully cheaper 5800 in the near future

    • Hattig
    • 10 years ago

    “stabilised”

    Maybe AMD would prefer knowing that yields are stable at 50% than varying wildly between 30% and 70%… the term doesn’t suggest “stable and good”!

      • Flying Fox
      • 10 years ago

      Interesting choice of words that is for sure. 40% to 50% is not exactly much of an improvement. We have to see the final numbers to see if they have really addressed their issues.

        • OneArmedScissor
        • 10 years ago

        I don’t think we’re going to be seeing any “final numbers.” They likely only ever mentioned 40% because it sounds so outrageously low, and it could only go up from there.

        They’ve had problems with it for almost a year straight now.

        • UberGerbil
        • 10 years ago

        Maybe they just mean “the news is no longer getting worse.”

          • Flying Fox
          • 10 years ago

          Sounds like the government’s reports on the economy? 😛

    • Kent_dieGo
    • 10 years ago

    40% yield? You have to wonder how long the parts that “passed” will last. They were all made with the same process on the same wafer. Better get the XFX model with lifetime warranty to be safe.

      • OneArmedScissor
      • 10 years ago

      “You have to wonder how long the parts that “passed” will last.”

      I guess you’ve never built a sand castle before? Just don’t submerge it in water or stomp on it, and you’re set.

        • ihira
        • 10 years ago

        I’m more interested in the parts ‘didn’t pass’ and how/when they will be sold.
        5830 anyone?

          • ImSpartacus
          • 10 years ago

          Bingo!

          That’s how the game is played.

    • UberGerbil
    • 10 years ago

    There may have been some large OEM orders affecting availability as well. With 4Q inventories/orders filled, that pressure goes away.

    • SomeOtherGeek
    • 10 years ago

    But where are the 5970s! I need my 5970s now! I need 4 of them! For the nitpicks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Big deal. Not going to buy any video card until Fermi comes out. And I still like to fold and so far the GTX260 blows away the 5xxx folding! I hope it changes tho with the new OpenCL software kits. See, see…

      • Fighterpilot
      • 10 years ago

      “Waiting for Fermi” hasn’t far to go before it joins “waiting for K8L” and DNF
      in the Internet Meme’s Hall of Fame.

      Lets hope it lives up to the hype….uh oh (o-o)
      §[< http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2034862<]§

        • SomeOtherGeek
        • 10 years ago

        Heh heh, that was good. Just about what I expected. I just hope it comes out is all. We just need the competition. I miss the good ol’ 2008 now!

        • Kaleid
        • 10 years ago

        Don’t forget bitboys..

      • pogsnet
      • 10 years ago
        • SomeOtherGeek
        • 10 years ago

        Of what year? 2012.
        Of which month? December
        On which day? 21!

        Oh crap! *running away*

        And no, I don’t believe in that shit.

      • kpo6969
      • 10 years ago

      (#21)SomeOtherGeek,
      You watch too many movies or do you have some special insight?

    • wiak
    • 10 years ago

    looks like amd wants your christmas present cash 😀

      • BooTs
      • 10 years ago

      My xmas present to myself. If I hadn’t already bought myself a couple of gifts from AMD in October.

    • designerfx
    • 10 years ago

    #2, if it weren’t for your joke mode I’d be a little peeved. still, bad form.

      • SomeOtherGeek
      • 10 years ago

      Oh come on… You’re kidding right? What was so bad about it?

    • anotherengineer
    • 10 years ago

    happy happy
    joy joy

    310 in stock is better than 270 not in stock lol and a 5850 at 310 is still a decent price for next gen card, I remember paying 300 for my old x850pro agp.

      • SomeOtherGeek
      • 10 years ago

      That was the whole point, ATI on purposely held everything back so that the prices could climb and all the suckers would still fork out an arm and leg. Great plan, huh?

      /joke mode

      • WaltC
      • 10 years ago

      I remember paying $300 for my Voodoo 1 and then my Voodoo 2…;) And that was in $ worth more than $ are worth today!

      Ain’t technology grand?…;)

        • travbrad
        • 10 years ago

        You don’t even have to go back that far either.

        Just last year Nvidia released the GTX280 at an MSRP of $650.

        Yes $400 is pretty steep for a video card, but there have been much more expensive high-end cards in the past. Overall, I think we are getting a lot more bang for our buck these days than even just a few years ago. In the “good old days” having a less high-end card usually meant games would run very slowly (or not at all!) or with very poor details. Now it just means you can’t run at 2560 with 8xAA.

        My 4830 is working good enough for me, and that was only $90 (a year or so ago)

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