Six-core Core i7 processor listed in Europe

The latest leaked specifications for Intel’s first Gulftown processor shot a little too low, it seems. An online retailer in Austria has quietly put up a listing for a six-core Core i7-980 Extreme Edition processor, detailing pricing and full specs that look better than what the rumor mill hinted.

According to the e-tailer, this upcoming CPU features six 32-nm cores clocked at 3.33GHz, 12 threads, 12MB of L3 cache, and a maximum Turbo Boost clock speed of 3.6GHz (presumably attainable only by a single core when the others aren’t loaded). The processor’s built-in triple-channel memory controller also supports DDR3 speeds of up to 1066MHz, which ought to enable top theoretical bandwidth of around 25.6GB/s.

How much does this puppy cost? Alternate.at quotes a price tag of €1,099 including taxes. For reference, the same e-tailer charges €1,049 for the quad-core Core i7-975 Extreme Edition, Intel’s current fastest desktop CPU. Since the i7-975 sells for a little under $1,000 in the U.S., we can probably expect similar pricing for the upcoming six-core behemoth.

Finally, Alternate.at quotes an "announced delivery date" of March 14 for the Core i7-980 Extreme Edition. (Thanks to TR reader Marian for the tip.)

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    • poulpy
    • 10 years ago

    I don’t know what happened but we seem to have had a severe increase of trolls/flamewars/random crap going around here lately..
    I know it’s been discussed before but, given the pain to navigate through and find decent posts these days, couldn’t we have a way to score posts and/or hide posters that are just here to stir it up?

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      Slashdot did it. It must be the reason.

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      I agree; but what I tend to do is when I see a certain giveaway username — AMDisDEC (or his new version), or Snakeoil (or one of his many variations) I just click that little “-” icon over on the right. Thereafter you have to resist the urge to press “+” to roll over the rock and see what slime is writhing underneath, but otherwise it works fairly well. Until a new troll appears (or an old troll under a new name) and you have to add his username to your mental list.

      I’ve given a thought from time to time about writing a greasemonkey script to do that automatically, and if this keeps up I may have to.

      I’d prefer to vote on users, rather than on posts, and have users’ posting intervals reflect their votes (so the down-voted folks could only post every couple of days….) But TR doesn’t have the manpower to do a lot of tinkering with the frontpage mechanics, I fear.

        • dpaus
        • 10 years ago

        Can you elaborate on that? The little “+-” doesn’t seem to appear on every top-level post. And if you use it, does that suppress that specific thread or the user that started the thread?

    • albundy
    • 10 years ago

    it is what it is. i wouldnt expect anything less from intel, especially for a $1500-$2000 cpu. i just cant fathom paying 20 times more for horsepower that i would never use, and TRs current cpu lineup review proves it. i’m more than a happy camper with my phenom2 955be as long as my games and apps open instantaneously.

    • Rasterian
    • 10 years ago

    “€1,099 including taxes”

    Kudos to TechReport for reporting the tax factor in European prices, getting the cross-Atlantic pricing picture in better focus.

    • jokinin
    • 10 years ago

    1099€ for a cpu? You can build a very nice complete computer for that price, this is just insane.
    When i can buy a 3.33 GHz base speed intel quad core with HT for less than 300€ maybe i’ll replace my core 2 duo e8400, meanwhile just sit and wait.

      • Kurotetsu
      • 10 years ago

      Good luck with that, you’ll be waiting a while. Not even the last gen Q9650 is that cheap. You might have better luck moving to AMD.

        • jokinin
        • 10 years ago

        I chose the Core 2 Duo E8400 to build my current computer, because by the time i bought it (july 2008), i found it more competitive.
        But don’t get me wrong, I have no special loyalty to Intel, and actually i’ve owned some AMD cpu’s in the past, being an Athlon64 3400+ the last one, which served me well for 3 years.
        And if in one year or so, AMD is more competitive within the sub 300€ price, i might build a full new AMD based computer and I wouldn’t be ashamed becuse of that.

      • wira020
      • 10 years ago

      Since you mentioned “Intel”.. you probably have to wait a longggg time… meanwhile, it’s already possible with amd’s cpu…

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      It’s not insane for the people who actually need and can use six cores and twelve threads. That’s not “enthusiasts”; it’s people doing commercial workstation tasks, and if spending a thousand dollars on a CPU makes, or saves, a few million dollars over its lifetime it’s not just sane it’s sensible (particularly since it is depreciated/tax-expensed business purchase).

      Of course, those sorts of tasks are increasingly run on servers, not on workstations, and the implosion of the finance quants (at least for now) means there’s less of them altogether. Intel probably wouldn’t have bothered with this (or the 1366 Nehalem line in general) if those chips didn’t serve as essentially customer-financed field tests for the equivalent Xeon EP silicon.

        • CasbahBoy
        • 10 years ago

        It is also not insane for people who have a lot of disposable income. It is all a matter of perspective and prerogative.

        • blastdoor
        • 10 years ago

        Indeed. The cost of human time, particularly the time of highly skilled humans, is far higher than the cost of a CPU. All that CPU has to do is save maybe 10 hours of human time over the course of its productive lifespan and it will have been worth it.

    • maxxcool
    • 10 years ago

    In other news, intel also noted that they will release a special cooler for the 12-thread monstrosity running at 3.33ghz that will also allow you to cook burritos during high cpu load situations.

    I love the I7 series… but at 3.33ghz per core… thats gotta be one hot s.o.b.

      • LaChupacabra
      • 10 years ago

      the i7 8 and 9 series were on the 45nm node, this new 6 core is on the 32nm. The thermals will probably be comparable to an i7 975.

        • wira020
        • 10 years ago

        Cooler, but not by much i guess…
        Look at current 32nm offering… i3/i5 with only 2 physical core isn’t that low on tdp… but it could also be the graphic core messing up the tdp…

          • LaChupacabra
          • 10 years ago

          The GPU for those is fabbed at 45nm. Think it’s about double the size of the traditional CPU, too.

          • NeelyCam
          • 10 years ago

          Look at the “full load” power of those Clarkdales, and compare it to other CPUs. Then, look at the performance and compare it to others.

          You’ll see that the Intel’s 32nm CPUs are much more power efficient than the 45nm variants.

    • Voo
    • 10 years ago

    Alternate is usually one of the more expensive vendors (and that’s put nice), so if these prices are for real, that would be more of an upper limit..

      • sigher
      • 9 years ago

      That’s not my experience, alternate is often quite competitive in its pricing, I find myself using them as retailer because they a) stock what I seek and b) do so for a price that is equal or lower than others.

      Of course they do have outlets in several countries and curiously even in euro-coinage zones their prices differ per country, sometimes by a rather large margin.

    • Prion
    • 10 years ago

    I’ve owned 3 PCs with less RAM than that monster has on-board cache.

    • FuturePastNow
    • 10 years ago

    There will, presumably, be non-EXTREME edition Gulftowns with lower clocks and prices. Those are the chips to get excited about; the high end is never the best value.

      • OneArmedScissor
      • 10 years ago

      Lol I love how this post just sunk to the bottom.

      And that’s exactly why Intel not only bothers with, but emphasizes, $1,000 CPUs. It somehow gets them quite a bit of attention from all those people who will never, ever buy one. You want what you can’t have, even if you can have it with a different label, I guess…

        • UberGerbil
        • 10 years ago

        It’s also why they introduce product lines from the top down, to try to tempt customers to buy one tier higher than they otherwise would if everything was available all at once. Impatience can be a fine ally to the crafty marketer.

          • FuturePastNow
          • 10 years ago

          Got to squeeze the early adopters as much as possible.

    • NeelyCam
    • 10 years ago

    3.33GHz @12threads, and only about 1000EUR?!?

    Dude, this thing just killed Magny-Cours. I really expected higher pricing and more equal performance.

    With Gulftown selling at the same price as M-C and having better performance, the AMD “performance/price” ratio thingy broke pretty badly.

    I don’t even have to mention the performance/cost thingy… But I will: AMD spends 3x the Gulftown silicon area to make one Magny-Cours.

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      Don’t underestimate the power of an actual core.

        • khands
        • 10 years ago

        Yeah, I have a feeling the benefit of physical cores vs. virtual cores will be exaggerated as we get higher and higher core counts.

        • accord1999
        • 10 years ago

        Don’t underestimate the multi-processing throughput of a Nehalem core.

          • MadManOriginal
          • 10 years ago

          Don’t underestimate the power of the dar….oh never mind.

      • Game_boy
      • 10 years ago

      You have neither piece of silicon. How do you know the performance matchup? You also don’t have exact retail pricing/clocks for MC, or profit margins on their silicon for either company.

      Also, MC has improved per-clock performance over Istanbul, confirmed. We don’t know how much by, but it could change the performance matchup.

      It’s a server matchup, and on the server it will be lower-clocked Gulftowns vs. lower clocked MCs for the volume segment of the market (that matters the most) and no one knows the relative positioning there.

      Power consumption as important than price or peak performance on servers, and you don’t have power numbers for MC. Thermals should be in the same range as Istanbul is all we know.

      Finally, the CPU is only one part of the server platform. Have you considered the cost and merits of Intel vs. AMD server platforms and motherboards? What about server-specific features – MC still has some unannounced features.

      So you can’t make that judgement at all. Not yet.

      • AMDisDEAD
      • 10 years ago

      Did you actually believe Magny-core really had a chance outside of Deep Discount Diggers like Dell, HP, and Rack mount vendors.
      I wonder who it will be that purchases the carcass of AMD before years end?

        • jdaven
        • 10 years ago

        Okay now this sucks. Where did AMDisDEAD come from? We have 2 Nvidia Zealots (PRIME1, Hightech4US) and two Intel zealots (Neelycam, AMDisDEAD) now.

        AMD will not be gone anytime soon. Neither will Intel and Nvidia. Why would anyone want a company to go under? They employ thousands of people. Do you want the unemployment rate to go up? These companies are all doing fine. Some win at times over others and some lose when it comes to the best product. Argue the merits of the technology and stop predicting the fall of a company that is doing just fine.

          • VILLAIN_xx
          • 10 years ago

          It’s probably same the ppl.. or same person? I’ve noticed the Charlie article really shed some new weird creatures. Prime1 is kind of humorous, but these other ones are just lame.

            • pogsnet
            • 10 years ago
            • MadManOriginal
            • 10 years ago

            The market won’t take $1000 CPUs as the norm, that ship has sailed. The days of $2000+ PCs being the norm is gone and won’t be back so don’t worry your pretty little head.

          • thecoldanddarkone
          • 10 years ago

          Uhh, AMDisDec has been around for awhile, he just goes through stages.

          edit
          My memory is a tad faulty, this guy joined
          0 Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:27 pm

            • Meadows
            • 10 years ago

            Soon he’ll turn into a butterfly.

            • Palek
            • 10 years ago

            You probably confused him with AMDisDEC, just like I did. AMDisDEC harboured similarly irrational hatred towards AMD.

            Interestingly enough, AMDisDEC last logged in in March 2009. AMDiSDEAD signed up in February 2009. Coincidence?

          • NeelyCam
          • 10 years ago

          And we have some 100 AMD zealots (OneArmedScissor, jdaven…)

          This is an unbalanced situation – we need more pro-Intel/pro-Nvidia folks to keep the discussion fair and reasonable.

            • jdaven
            • 10 years ago

            You see that’s the problem. Intel and Nvidia are fine companies. Most of the negative discussion around here is towards Intel monopoly abuses and Nvidia’s problems with Fermi. I know for one that you, Neelycam, deny that Intel has done anything wrong with regards to anti-trust and this is why some of us have a problem with you. That and you keep calling people who buy AMD names and insult their products. Most don’t take kindly to that. With regards to PRIME1, Nvidia has had countless problems lately but he denies all of it and yells that AMD is going out of business from the roof tops as does AMDisDEAD.

            Don’t say someone is stupid for choosing AMD over Intel. Don’t call any bodies products inferior just because another company can make something faster in different applications and at different price points. In a world full of products in so many categories, there is good and bad in all of them. Just look at the TR processor comparison article. AMD products don’t fall all at the bottom in all metrics. Some things they are good in some categories. If you want to be respected, say something nice about AMD every now and then and I’ll do the same. Here I’ll start:

            Intel has some pretty wicked fab facilities and they have processors that are very fast. Now your turn to complement AMD.

            • NeelyCam
            • 10 years ago

            AMD makes excellent discrete graphics cards.

            • jdaven
            • 10 years ago

            Lol! Awesome. They do make really nice graphics cards. That being said, Intel makes great mobile processors. The best chips for laptops I’ve ever seen.

            • NeelyCam
            • 10 years ago

            My turn…? Crap – I’m out. 🙁

            …AMD has nice office buildings..?

            • MadManOriginal
            • 10 years ago

            Two unreasonables make a reasonable??

            • NeelyCam
            • 10 years ago

            More so than one unreasonable.

          • AMDisDEAD
          • 10 years ago

          LOL, perhaps you don’t recall, I was AMD’s biggest fan.
          In fact, I had a great block of their stock, and fortunately when I saw the absolute stupid decisions their management team made over and over again, I quickly unloaded all their stock when it was valued at $40/share. I was lucky to get out at it’s peak. Many suckers were not so lucky. Now poor Ruiz is a part of an inside trading trial and UAE owns all their fabs.

          LMAO, I attended a shareholders meeting and told them NOT to buy ATI. The poorly trained MBAs (Harvard, Yale) didn’t listen, proceeded in ignorance and over paid by over a billion bucks.
          Today, AMD it’s more a GPU than CPU company and there is NO WAY their current sales revenue can sustain them much longer.
          Like Sun, they will be either stripped completely, or outright purchased by some non-differentiated company like Dell.

            • Meadows
            • 10 years ago

            For a guy who attends shareholders’ meetings, you do talk like a prepubescent idiot.

            Also, AMD has been “dying” for at least as long as PC gaming has. I don’t expect either to go under.

            • AMDisDEAD
            • 10 years ago

            LOL, what da matta? You hold your AMD stock and now its worth $4/share. LMAO!!

            • Meadows
            • 10 years ago

            I’m not a shareholder.

            • jdaven
            • 10 years ago

            Actually, the only company I have ever predicted to go under in the comment sections at TR is Dell which is why I don’t give any of your perspective much credence in predicting anything financial. AMD has struggled for years and has remained afloat. They are competing against a monster (good and bad) of a company. I’m talking full-throated no holds bar, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, monopoly fighting. That ain’t easy. Mistakes will be made.

            Sometimes companies stamp out other companies for sure. AMD has struggled along and still released some impressive stuff. Your rants about Ruiz and shareholders meetings can be countered with allegations of threats of violence by Craig Barret not to mention that Intel has been sued by every major government in the world. Both companies have skeletons in their proverbial closets. This is the price of participating in billion dollar markets. Grow up and get over it.

            • AMDisDEAD
            • 10 years ago

            Wrong. AMD has always done poorly financially. The difference is, this time they are doing far worst. having to sell off vital company assets and lay off thousands of employees.
            This is the price of stupidity, and very bad judgement. Not to mention, a tea party-like mentality. Long like the new Arab Processor company.

            • PenGun
            • 10 years ago

            I’m not sure they don’t realize that what you say is true. The problem is that it appears to be also true for western economy in general.

            I’m not sure AMD will die before everything else goes south.

            All countries and most commercial organizations are completely bankrupt and with the defaults of Greece then California the damn will break pretty soon.

          • AMDisDEAD
          • 10 years ago

          HAHAHAHA!!!
          AMD is doing fine? LOL, don’t read many SEC reports do you.

            • jdaven
            • 10 years ago

            Yeah and Coke almost killed Pepsi, Microsoft almost killed Apple, etc, blah, etc. blah. If it happens, it happens. Some companies fall, some companies rise up. Seems like a familiar situation, aww, yes that’s right it called capitalism (not to be confused with religion).

            If AMD falls, then Nvidia might make an x86 chip. Apple might start making all their own chips. ARM might take over the netbook market or get pushed out. All supercomputers and servers might start using GPGPUs. The CPU and GPU might fully integrate and all AMD needs is ATI. So on and so on and so on. Countless possibilities, countless scenarios.

            I’ll conclude in the immortal words of Michael Dell with regards to Apple in 1997 (my favorite quote in the universe):

            “What would I do? I’d shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders,” Michael Dell said before a crowd of several thousand IT executives.

            Hilarious. Save your prognostications for your weak minded acquaintances.

            • AMDisDEAD
            • 10 years ago

            Simple guy. AMD’s problems are much closer to the failure of the Georgia Peanut Factory. Very Poor management.

      • flip-mode
      • 10 years ago

      Without a doubt, Intel has the CPU advantage in the majority of scenarios, but Magny-Cours will be a better bet in some scenarios still.

        • JumpingJack
        • 10 years ago

        The other problem here is that this is not the server part, but the deskstop part, we have no idea what a 3+ GHz 6C server variant will go for, so magny cours comparisons on this is irrelevant.

      • Shining Arcanine
      • 10 years ago

      I am not convinced that will be the case. I know that it is the case that 4 core Xeons with hyperthreading beat 6 core Opterons, but in this case, Intel is increasing their core count by 50% while AMD is doubling it. Magny-Cours should in theory be able to outperform Gulftown, because AMD has a physical core where Intel has a virtual core.

      To put it another way, Intel has the advantage of a wider pipeline in that it is 4-issue versus AMD’s 3-issue pipeline, but unless AMD’s pipeline has become horribly inefficient (think Pentium 4 inefficient), I think AMD will have an an advantage simply because for every two virtual cores that can process in total 4 instructions per second, AMD will have two physical cores that can process in total 6 instructions per second. To overcome this with virtual cores, Intel’s architecture would have to be the epitome of efficiency while AMD’s architecture would have to be a complete piece of junk (like the P4).

        • AMDisDEAD
        • 10 years ago

        You are deluded.
        AMD has absolutely NO advantage. Intel has fabs, their own fabs. Their yields will be probably a magnitude above AMDs. Also, while TechReport is focused on small overclocking and gaming market, it is insignificant in making AMD a profit.
        Intel is designed into everything. Over 50% of Intel CPUs are sold into markets which AMD can’t even compete and have no presence or credibility.

        Take my word for it. AMD is going the way of DEC having it’s parts stripped away until nothing is left but IP. They are very close to this point today. All they need now is to name a new CEO like Carla Fiorna. LOL!!

        As Jerry Sanders correctly stated; If you can’t out spend your competitor, then you had better out innovate them. AMD’s day of innovation are over., and they haven’t shown a REAL profit from sales since they first released Opteron.

          • Shining Arcanine
          • 10 years ago

          DEC was the most technologically advanced company in the world in its time and it died because of poor business decisions. AMD has traditionally made poor-performing energy-guzzling Intel clones with few exceptions, this probably being one of them. AMD cannot go the way of DEC because it never was in DEC’s position from the beginning.

        • MadManOriginal
        • 10 years ago

        Clock speeds bro.

          • JumpingJack
          • 10 years ago

          Clock — and issue width and IPC… it will likely be close though.

          • AMDisDEAD
          • 10 years ago

          Clock speed value is non-relevant except in the very small number of enthusiasm market, which has as little influence on Intel/AMD sales as a republican at a charity event. With even server sales becoming commodity, and AMD having absolutely no presence or credibility in the embedded markets, their loooong string of unprofitable quarters are destined to continue until the very end.
          With nothing much left to sell off, and no bank funding where will AMDs R&D funding come from?

            • MadManOriginal
            • 10 years ago

            Um, clock speed still plays a role how much actual work can be done in a given amount of real time, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a server running a bunch of VMs or a desktop encoding video. If Magny-Cours is sub-2GHz it would end up slower than Nehalem-EX even if they were similar performance/clock which they aren’t.

            • AMDisDEAD
            • 10 years ago

            Clock speed is relevant in IPC, but deterimental to AMD in their foolish strategy to compete with Superior Tech Intel, head on. Actually like George Bush (AMD) jumping into a boxing ring with Mike Tyson (Intel). We all know what the outcome will be. However, things being as they are in America, many suckers will place their bets on Bush.

            • Shining Arcanine
            • 10 years ago

            You are nonsensical at this point. :/

            • AMDisDEAD
            • 10 years ago

            That’s the same thing Ken Olsen at D.E.C. said just before the floor fell out from under his feet. Intel killed them too. You’ve been miseducated.

            • Shining Arcanine
            • 10 years ago

            The irony here is that I have a preference for Intel processors. :/

            • AMDisDEAD
            • 10 years ago

            Personally, I don’t care if it’s Intel or AMD.
            Processors are now commodity items, which simply means, there is very little to no REAL differentiation. When you run Word or Quake on either platform, there is no significant difference.

    • conlusio
    • 10 years ago

    Things I wish I had the money to buy. That’s going to make one hell of a render box. Hopefully that crawls down the ladder to 1156 in some form or another.

      • Helmore
      • 10 years ago

      Then I hope you have the patience to wait at least a year, probably more…..

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      Not unless Intel has changed the roadmaps they’ve been sticking to for over a year now. No 32nm quads until Sandy Bridge; nothing more than quads for 1156. (It’s also unclear if any Sandy Bridge CPUs will work in 1156 at all, or if there will instead be a new mid-range socket).

        • MadManOriginal
        • 10 years ago

        Sandy Bridge is going to rock our socks. It’s the next *real new* architectural update since Core 2. 4c/8t Sandy Bridge will be faster than 6c/12t Gulftown. I look forward to seeing what comes out in the lower midrange for Sandy Bridge, I’m thinking a 2c/4t variant will be very nice itself.

          • UberGerbil
          • 10 years ago

          But the really interesting improvements — baring some architectural breakthrough Intel might have up its sleeve — lie with AVX, and that will wait on software.

            • Shining Arcanine
            • 9 years ago

            Gentoo Linux can take advantage of AVX right now. The only issue is that there is no hardware. :/

      • Vasilyfav
      • 10 years ago

      You can build 2 render boxes with OCed Core i5 750’s for this money right now.

        • sigher
        • 9 years ago

        You can also buy a dual socket mobo and use xenons.

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