12-core Opteron processors hit e-tail listings

Unreleased AMD processors are all rushing to online store listings, it seems. After Phenom II X6 processors in Norway, we now see an online retailer in the U.S. has put up listings for a whole series of 8- and 12-core Opterons based on the Magny-Cours design.

Searching for “Opteron X12” on the Provantage website yields no fewer than 16 matches, with prices ranging from $290 for an Opteron 6124 HE to $1,485 for an Opteron 6176 SE. All 16 products are either back-ordered or on special order.

The specifications listed contain some gaps, so we can’t put together a complete picture of the lineup. We can, however, make a few assumptions. The 6124 HE, 6128, 6134, and 6136 models all have 16MB of total cache (4MB of L2 and 12MB of L3), for instance, while the 6164 HE, 6168, 6172, 6174, and 6176 have 18MB (that is, 6MB of L2 and 12MB of L3). Since AMD typically straps 512KB of L2 cache to each core, we’d wager the first group is made up of eight-core offerings, while the second batch is all 12-core.

Listed clock speeds, thermal envelopes, and prices support that assumption. The Opteron 6124 HE through 6136 offerings apparently run at 1.8 to 2.4GHz with thermal envelopes of either 65W or 80W and prices of up to $809. Meanwhile, the presumed 12-core models run at 1.7 to 2.3GHz with 65, 80, and 105W thermal envelopes and prices as high as $1,485. (By the way, those power envelopes are likely ACP ratings, not straight TDP numbers.)

Otherwise, Provantage says all 16 new Opterons are Socket G34 products. If you followed our coverage of AMD’s official roadmap, you’ll know AMD will partition its server and workstation product family into two platforms: G34 at the high end, reaching up into four-socket servers, and C32 at the low end. The G34 platform will support quad-channel DDR3 memory with up to 12 modules per socket; that should make for a potent combination with four 12-core CPUs. (Thanks to Fudzilla for the tip.)

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    • jinjuku
    • 13 years ago

    Lol :-). Don’t forget about the 4 replacements for the replacements, and then THEIR replacements.

    Can never be sure and you should never buy enterprise class equipment and actually depend on it. I mean who at MS/Google/IBM/Apple etc… Does something crazy like that!

    • jinjuku
    • 13 years ago

    Been doing this for 20 years now. You? The containers can simply be moved to another box if needed.

    The box I build will have RAID5 (Hotswap), redundant PSU, beefy battery backup etc. We keep a spare by the way :rolleyes:

    My only point was to all you idiots that couldn’t understand why there is a desire for a 12 core box with a ~120 Watt TDP.

    • Shining Arcanine
    • 13 years ago

    You probably should do emerge –jobs -e world. That will build multiple packages in parallel, which should guarentee that every core is busy until the very tail end of compilation. The other way would have it only build one package at a time, so a large amount of CPU time will be wasted as the other cores wait for the ./configure scripts to run.

    • Anonymous Coward
    • 13 years ago

    Wow.

    • xzelence
    • 13 years ago

    Epic comeback(s)

    • poulpy
    • 13 years ago

    At the same time he never stated he cares about a good setup otherwise he’d have not 1 but _[<4<]_ servers sitting idle waiting for a fail-over for the past 5 years and already a NAS storage to avoid crying when losing data.

    • September
    • 13 years ago

    Once we find some unobtanium to use in the flying cars it will all be easy.

    • Scrotos
    • 13 years ago

    The ideal secretary? 😀

    • September
    • 13 years ago

    I keep my desktop under my desk. So what do I call that?

    • Scrotos
    • 13 years ago

    I thought she was DD?

    • Scrotos
    • 13 years ago

    So when that one box goes down it takes out 4 virtual servers! Sweet!

    Or are you going to have a redundant box as a hot spare or running simultaneously? Then those two working in concert would be a virtual virtualized set of servers able to instantly take over when one fails!

    Oh but hey, if you go that route you’ll also probably want to have the virtual server images and storage on a NAS or SAN or something so if one machine dies everything is still accessible, too.

    …yeah, do to virtualization “right” can get expensive.

    • Veerappan
    • 13 years ago

    Thanks for that. It’s been a while since I checked up on the status of Moller.

    • BeowulfSchaeffer
    • 13 years ago
    • AMDisDEAD
    • 13 years ago

    AMD began with Opteron by attempting to segment chips intended for Servers from those for workstations. For workstations they designed Opteron 100 series with 200 & 800 for servers. What they found was workstation manufacturers did not want the 100 series but preferred SMP here also.
    I can’t count the number of 800 series workstation/desktops I’ve sold to 3D graphics artists, programmers, and engineers. They all wanted multicore and the reliability of server class devices.

    • bwcbiz
    • 13 years ago

    Yeah, a data center with a 384 kbps ADSL uplink…

    • jinjuku
    • 13 years ago

    You will have to forgive the stupid, unwashed masses. The know not what they talk about.

    • jinjuku
    • 13 years ago

    I have four servers that at ~5 years old. I will replace them with ONE box with an eight core processor, RAID array, and 24GB of RAM. Everything virtualized.

    • nonegatives
    • 13 years ago

    I didn’t know TR was owned by the government. Given our current Congress, it will be pwned by the gov’ment before too long.

    • pullmyfoot
    • 13 years ago

    so anyone actually understand that this is for SERVERS where more cores actually COMES IN HANDY and not desktop computers?

    • hermanshermit
    • 13 years ago

    Since forever if you happen to run an enterprise server.

    • Meadows
    • 13 years ago

    That invalidates nothing of what *he* has said.

    • Mystic-G
    • 13 years ago

    What year will this come in handy?

    • blubje
    • 13 years ago

    the quality of games didn’t really catch up with the hardware.

    • brucect
    • 13 years ago

    I will keep my money for thuban cheap models like around $250

    • d0g_p00p
    • 13 years ago

    I hope it does since a 2 year old computer can run it just fine. 2 years later and people are still using that lame joke. I guess you can use that tired joke again when Crysis 2 comes out.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 13 years ago

    But what if your workstation is located on top of a desk?!?! OMG head assplodes.

    • AMDisDEAD
    • 13 years ago

    Well, my NEW workstation/Desktop is either be a 12 core AMD, OR a dual 6 core Xeon. At this point, the dual socket Intel is in the leading position, but could change once AMD’s performance/cost is known.

    • My Johnson
    • 13 years ago

    Only if you don’t have a flash heavy webpage running in the background.

    • OneArmedScissor
    • 13 years ago

    Personally, I wouldn’t call a workstation a desktop. That’s why I call it a workstation.

    • CheetoPet
    • 13 years ago

    MAKEOPTS=”-j12″ emerge -e @world

    hell yes.

    • AMDisDEAD
    • 13 years ago

    They are desktop chips if you can afford to use them as such. I can, and do. I actually like having features like ECC and scrubbing on my workstation.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 13 years ago

    ok, now I know you’re lying, I’m adopted and I kept my first family’s name.

    • HurgyMcGurgyGurg
    • 13 years ago

    Support for Radeon’s has been depreciated. We won’t have a performance update until they can get out an OpenCL client; eta on that looks to be about 6 months at this point. Nvidia will have a new CUDA client in about a month or two and this sucker should be getting something like 20k points on a Fermi.

    If performance scaled correctly on a 5970 it should be doing 20k points as well, it’s stuck at 10k right now because the client can’t use a decent amount of its GPU cores.

    But that’s life I guess…

    • NeelyCam
    • 13 years ago

    Lara Bee Croft

    • dpaus
    • 13 years ago

    Actually, Anne Coulter has an interesting story to tell about that today…

    §[<http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100323/canada/canada_us_politics_people<]§

    • NeelyCam
    • 13 years ago

    What happened to freedom of speech?

    • bdwilcox
    • 13 years ago

    No, it was definitely your mom. Her name was Mrs. derFunkenstein and she claimed to have an a-hole for a son.

    • flip-mode
    • 13 years ago

    made me laugh

    • Krogoth
    • 13 years ago

    Hopefully, Jupiter doesn’t get a growing black spot……

    • Krogoth
    • 13 years ago

    These aren’t desktop chips. They are server-grade stuff and make sense for companies that already have existing LGA1207+ infrastructure.

    SMP is still superior to SMT in some applications. This is where these 12-cores Opteron will thrive against Intel’s offerings.

    • Dually
    • 13 years ago

    48 Cores? It’s LARABEEEEEE!!!!!

    • CasbahBoy
    • 13 years ago

    Everyone knows that’s a direct result of our graphics cards, not CPUs.

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 13 years ago

    That front image is a thing of beauty.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 13 years ago
    • dpaus
    • 13 years ago

    Most well-written Java apps can automatically use as many cores/threads as are available.

    • ish718
    • 13 years ago

    Crysis 2 maybe, since Cryengine 3 is optimized to take advantage of more than 2 cores unlike its predecessor.

    • dpaus
    • 13 years ago

    Cue SysAdmin’s MCOD in 3…. 2…… 1……

    • derFunkenstein
    • 13 years ago

    I think you’re getting my mom confused with someone else.

    • porov
    • 13 years ago

    hahaahahahhaah airplane.

    • porov
    • 13 years ago

    i think in several years we will have 1000+ core cpus

    • bdwilcox
    • 13 years ago

    Your mom never complained. Then again, she’s too polite to talk with her mouth full.

    • Meadows
    • 13 years ago

    The target audience, i.e. _[

    • dpaus
    • 13 years ago

    Yes, but don’t call me Shirley

    • neon
    • 13 years ago

    man, I really need to get cracking on my design for traffic signals for 3D traffic flow patterns.

    • AMDisDEAD
    • 13 years ago

    Opterons aren’t just for servers. They target the Workstation market also. I run Pro-E and Orcad on mine. Will run games well also.
    Software is even lagging in the server area. Windows Server is crap, and still fails to match capabilities of old OS like VMS, RTE/S, and even RT-11.

    • CheetoPet
    • 13 years ago

    Its 2010, we all officially live in the future now. Still waiting on the flying cars tho.

    • basket687
    • 13 years ago

    But will it run crysis? 🙂

    • SomeOtherGeek
    • 13 years ago

    Oh yes! Finally, now I can play Crysis, whew…

    • JoHowdy123
    • 13 years ago

    Do you mean a 2x 5970 rig? I really want 4 5970’s in my computer… 🙂

    • Shining Arcanine
    • 13 years ago

    Not on Gentoo Linux. Software installations on Gentoo Linux can take advantage of arbitrary numbers of cores. A typical Gentoo installation could probably take advantage of tens of thousands of cores before things are not parallel enough.

    Gentoo Linux also has multithreaded programs available for things that tend to be bottlenecks, such as video encoding/playback.

    By the way, that is not to say that these processors will fair better than Intel’s. Intel’s will probably run circles around them, because they are avoiding improving their instruction-level parallelism.

    • 5150
    • 13 years ago

    Opterons are for servers!? I thought they were for playing HD video on YouTube!

    • potatochobit
    • 13 years ago

    i need to buy one of these miniservers now but I dont want to pay for the bandwidth of having to rent somewhere

    • Game_boy
    • 13 years ago

    Not on servers.

    • Game_boy
    • 13 years ago

    I knew 36 cores was a joke, but I thought the point was ‘why do we need all these cores when two will do’.

    • SubSeven
    • 13 years ago

    Haha, small chance it wasn’t? I think scissor is right, your sarcasm detector is way borked. He was saying that a 36 core chip will ensure regularity… how could this possibly be anything but 100% sarcastic?

    • AMDisDEAD
    • 13 years ago

    Glad to see these multi-cores show up. Too bad software is 10years behind actually utilizing them.

    • Game_boy
    • 13 years ago

    “I hardly use two cores” meant there was a small chance it wasn’t, so I responded.

    • OneArmedScissor
    • 13 years ago

    YOU need to see a doctorologist about your borked sarcasm detector.

    • OneArmedScissor
    • 13 years ago

    Man alive! $1,200 for 32 cores…stupid fast $300 SSDs…welcome to the new world of DIY computers. Instead of desktops, we’ll build our own consolidated Facebook data centers.

    • Shinare
    • 13 years ago

    Surely we will start seeing results from [email protected] with 4 socket x 12 core systems out there folding away. Or will a 4x 5970 still out PPD it for much much cheaper?

    • Game_boy
    • 13 years ago

    The 8 core Xeon, and the accompanying motherboard will be priced significantly higher than the 12 core Opteron according to AMD. Its price competition is the 6 core Xeons.

    Intel is clearly targeting it at RISC replacement (Itanium/Power) and the top end of current servers (8P) whereas Magny-Cours will sell where Istanbul is right now.

    • Game_boy
    • 13 years ago

    YOU are not the target market. Server applications scale extremely well with more cores, and are more power-sensitive. This is why server procs tend to have lower clockspeeds, few top-TDP offerings, and many low-TDP offerings.

    The real question is whether, /[

    • Game_boy
    • 13 years ago

    The list price of an Opteron 6172 is $989 officially according to an Analyst Day presentation. This has it at $1084. So these prices are pretty accurate.

    • jdaven
    • 13 years ago

    It will be interesting to see how the 2.3 GHz 12 core Opteron will compare to the 8 core 2.267 GHz 8 core Xeon.

    • khands
    • 13 years ago

    That would explain why he didn’t mention it as a perk.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 13 years ago

    Pfft. He already gets that. 18×0=0, right?

    • khands
    • 13 years ago

    It will also make your penis 18 times longer.

    • bdwilcox
    • 13 years ago

    I’m not buying until I can have 36 core CPUs. In fact. I’m shocked and offended that they would try to sell me anything less. Right now, I hardly use two cores, but 36 cores will magically make everything run faster, make all my food taste better, make candy sweeter, and ensure regularity.

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