Product page teases mobile Fermi derivative

Well, well, what have we here? In spite of Nvidia’s silence on the topic of mobile Fermi derivatives, Eurocom has started listing a GeForce GTX 480M mobile GPU as an option for one of its laptops. The GPU shows up alongside existing AMD and Nvidia products in a configuration drop-down menu for Eurocom’s W870CU Cheetah—a 17.3" jumbo laptop with a mobile Core i7 processor and two hard-drive bays.

The folks at Engadget wrote about this discovery this morning, but so far, Eurocom has left the listing intact. We’ve grabbed a screenshot for posterity, though:

Eurocom talks of a 2GB GDDR5 frame buffer, a 100W power envelope, and a June 2010 launch time frame. If we were the betting kind, we’d put our money on this product being a mobile variant of that GF104 we’ve been hearing about recently. The rumor mill has described the GF104 as a mid-range part with 256 stream processors and a 256-bit GDDR5 memory interface. Assuming the GF104’s silicon isn’t as massive as the GF100’s, it might just be flexible enough to squeeze into mobile power envelopes.

Nvidia’s mobile lineup currently lacks any DirectX 11 products. AMD, by contrast, announced a whole lineup of notebook-bound Mobility Radeon HD 5000-series GPUs back in early January.

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    • mczak
    • 9 years ago

    I think some other notebooks just never switch to max gpu clocks on battery. So it’ll run probably 40 min when gaming but quite slow instead of 20 min and fast :-).
    Seriously though afaik 100W is a new record for a “mobile” chip. I think all previous (single-chip) mobile gpu solutions have stuck to the 75W limit so far. It’s hard to tell though if this power draw would be justified compared to the competition without any performance data but if that’s a GF104 which isn’t too much castrated it probably should outperform any other (single-chip) solution.

    • tocatl
    • 9 years ago

    i guess its a new birth control

      • Jigar
      • 9 years ago

      Nvidia trying to kill their future prospects ? Shame on them.

        • Left_SHifted
        • 9 years ago

        More painless than a vasectomy, and rather more permanent, i should think.

    • FuturePastNow
    • 9 years ago

    June? GF104 based, then, 256 stream processors.

    • ClickClick5
    • 9 years ago

    I smell suing over red hot legs!
    “Who is grilling? Oh, that is my legs cooking!”

      • wira020
      • 9 years ago

      The sperm, the sperm!!!

    • Sargent Duck
    • 9 years ago

    Sweet! Now I can have a BBQ where ever I take this laptop! Mmmm….BBQ

      • 5150
      • 9 years ago

      Can I get this with a Prescott for grilling?

        • grantmeaname
        • 9 years ago

        you could make a panini press!

    • tygrus
    • 9 years ago

    The mega-notebooks will either have a massive brick of a battery (still last ~1hr at max for 120WHr) or only runs the 480M when connected to mains power adapter.

    Brings new meaining to a hot lap when playing a car sim 🙂

      • grantmeaname
      • 9 years ago

      nope, it’s got a 48WHr 6-cell (which is rather pedestrian even for a six cell… And there’s no indication optimus is that intelligent.

    • slaimus
    • 9 years ago

    It is probably a mistake, as it lists the GTS 360M as DX11, which it is not.

    • Prototyped
    • 9 years ago

    q[

      • codedivine
      • 9 years ago

      Well maybe its teasing the 480M that it has a big fat TDP.

        • LaChupacabra
        • 9 years ago

        MMM MMM! That laptop has some junk in the trunk

    • pedro
    • 9 years ago

    this is insanity!

      • MadManOriginal
      • 9 years ago

      No, this is NVIDIAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!11111

    • grantmeaname
    • 9 years ago

    I don’t know how accurate the term “mobile” is for it…

      • OneArmedScissor
      • 9 years ago

      It’ll go anywhere you can go while wearing a hazmat suit.

    • ew
    • 9 years ago

    It costs $380 more then the Mobility 5870! Yikes.

      • khands
      • 9 years ago

      Pretty sure that’s a much higher TDP too.

      • Farting Bob
      • 9 years ago

      Yea the scariest part of the screenshot is not the 100w TDP that most people have been going nuts about but the fact they are charging $380 MORE than the mobility 5870 which is the current king of the mobile world. Sure most of that $380 will be prerelease / early adopter tax and im sure it wont be anywhere near as disasterous when its officially out and about. But i would expect some of that extra cost will have to go towards a different cooling system and power delivery.

        • Duck
        • 9 years ago

        Don’t forget that a mobile 5870 is based on Juniper. So it is basically a downclocked 5770.

        By my calculations, the 480M will be 60% more GPU than a mobile 5870. (thats 800/5 = 160 cores for mobile 5870, 256 for the 480M which is 60% more).

          • Waco
          • 9 years ago

          You can’t compare them like that…

            • Duck
            • 9 years ago

            Just trying to explain the cost and power consumption. How it can be so much higher than 5870.

            • Game_boy
            • 9 years ago

            Their ‘cores’ are so different that the comparison is still unproductive. Comparing die sizes is more useful, because they’re both made on the same TSMC 40nm process, but looking at GF100 v. Cypress, AMD achieved a lower power consumption per transistor, per mm^2 and per unit performance anyway. It’s all tradeoffs though, maybe Nvidia chose wrong on those design decisions.

          • grantmeaname
          • 9 years ago

          why don’t you just use the published die sizes for the two?

            • Game_boy
            • 9 years ago

            Juniper: 166mm^2
            GF104: 330mm^2, according to SemiAccurate.

            • grantmeaname
            • 9 years ago

            right. That’s like 100% bigger, not 60%.

            • Duck
            • 9 years ago

            In that case, a 100w TDP would be impressive.

            • grantmeaname
            • 9 years ago

            double the size being double the power consumption is impressive?

            • Spotpuff
            • 9 years ago

            Some people like big numbers.

            • Duck
            • 9 years ago

            no, double the size while power consumption being no where near double

            • grantmeaname
            • 9 years ago

            The TDP of the 480M is 100W. The TDP of the Mobilty 5870 is 50W. 100W/50W=2.

            • Duck
            • 9 years ago

            the number I had for the 5870 was 86w…. nvm…

            • OneArmedScissor
            • 9 years ago

            A decent chunk of the power use is the RAM and other parts of the cards themselves, though, so comparing like that doesn’t really work.

            A larger chip really should use less power in a laptop, since it could run at a lower speed and be just as powerful, if not more. That’s the big goof here, as laptops aren’t too likely to go higher than 1920×1200. If the 100w TDP is accurate, this is just downright wasteful, whatever it is.

            • OneArmedScissor
            • 9 years ago

            Eh, isn’t it four times bigger? Those are square area measurements. Same deal as 32nm giving you a chip half the size of what it is at 45nm. :p

            • grantmeaname
            • 9 years ago

            no, 330/166 is about two. It’s only radical(2) times bigger on each side, though. If it was twice as big on each side it would be four times the area, which I think is where you’re getting it, but the area measurement already takes that into account.

        • Voldenuit
        • 9 years ago

        l[

        • fantastic
        • 9 years ago

        100 Watts is too much for a DESKTOP graphics card in my opinion. When we started plugging graphics cards into the power supply directly, things went downhill rapido. In a laptop, anything more than about 25 Watts isn’t right.

          • Voldenuit
          • 9 years ago

          Well, with GPUs doing more heavy lifting than CPUs in many situations these days (and looking to be even moreso in the future), perhaps the whole ATX/motherboard spec needs to be revised to take into account that the CPU is no longer the biggest heat producer in the computer?

          • mesyn191
          • 9 years ago

          That gaming laptop is a DTR that you’ll probably be plugging in everywhere rather than something that you could really use on batteries anyways.

          Pretty much all the good gaming laptops are like that really. You can usually only get like 2 hours max gaming usage out of them on batteries and that is it.

          Its definitely not a laptop for everyone, but if you’ve got the money and you want the fastest portable period that’ll probably be the thing to get.

            • BlackStar
            • 9 years ago

            Calling a 17.3”, 100+W monster portable is something of an oxymoron.

            It’s portable in the sense that my 120W desktop is portable: you could probably lift it and move it to some other place. The UPS would even last for 45′. See? Portable!

            • mesyn191
            • 9 years ago

            Oh come on, its obviously going to be smaller and lighter than a comparable desktop + monitor + keyboard/mouse.

            As far as laptops go it’ll certainly be huge and heavy though.

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