Whoa… new look

Yep, we’ve updated the layout of the front page of the site. Although our old layout did a good job of presenting a lot of information in a small space, we’ve long had some reservations about it that we just couldn’t shake. As I said in my earlier post, we think restoring the rolling news to the site’s main page will help to open up our design a little bit, give it some room to breathe, and simplify navigation for most readers. Yes, there’s more scrolling but fewer clicks, a trade-off we believe most folks will appreciate in the long run. We also think this layout is a little less intimidating and just plain friendlier than our incredibly information-dense prior front page.

Thanks to your feedback, we made a couple of tweaks to this layout before taking it live. The "Hot forum threads" box is now prominently placed near the top of the screen, and the Breadbox is linked just above the first news story. Also, to help those who wish to track a range of ongoing comments discussions, the "Top discussion topics" has moved up the page a bit and has been modified—across the site—to show the most active discussion topics posted in the past 36 hours, which should make it more immediate and relevant.

We’ve also realized from your feedback that we simply won’t be able to satisfy everyone with any single design. To ease the pain for those who preferred the old layout, we’ve moved it to a new location and renamed it to TR at a glance. You can bookmark that page if you like, or it’s available from the "More…" menu at the top of each page.

In a similar vein, we didn’t want to have a third such page to maintain indefinitely, so we’ve redirected the old "News page" to point to the new front page. The two pages are very similar, but we think the new layout is an improvement in a lot of ways.

My ultimate hope is that once the new front page layout settles in, folks will begin to find it comfortable—that includes me and our other editors. There’s a certain ease of throwing up a quick post on the front page that I think we kind of lost with the prior look. Perhaps we can regain a little of that informality and sense of fun with the return to scrolly news. If so, I think the change will have been worth it.

That’s not to say what we have now is entirely where we want to be. We have a ton of ideas for improving the site with broader changes and nifty new features that will let us present all of the information you want in a clean, compact format with a contemporary look. All we’ve done here is a minor tweak to one page. Those larger changes will come later, when the time is right. We’ll be sure to get your feedback on those, too, when we’re ready.

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    • south side sammy
    • 10 years ago

    TR at a glance…… Thank You.

    • nanoflower
    • 10 years ago

    I have to come up against the new look. It seems to be hiding some of the articles. I’m sure it’s not intentional but I was looking for the latest TR podcast and I couldn’t find it on the new home page. I had to go the old format in order to see that a new podcast had been released and it should have been visible on the new format since it came in between some of the articles listed on the new web page.

      • indeego
      • 10 years ago

      Good point. In fact they put TR’s bread and butter, /[

    • PhilipMcc
    • 10 years ago

    It there a way to see more than 5 “Hot Forum Threads”? That’s what I miss the most.

    • dustyjamessutton
    • 10 years ago

    The new format is so confusing and unusable to me that I’m going to stop using this site. This is so messed up, I cant find anything quickly.

    • Sanctusx2
    • 10 years ago

    Not a fan of the new layout. It’s sort of teasing me with the layout before the last one, which I really liked. I come mainly to read the latest news postings, whether they be full articles or not. As it is now, the much less frequent “features” are occupying very nearly the entire page. The features don’t change very often, and I don’t need to constantly see them. The news on the other hand is now shoved down to the bottom, as if it’s the least important item.

    Arstechnica has a decent compromise with a feature box relegated to the side, though on their page I dislike their butchered “read more” snippets that usually tell you nothing. I actually “read less” because I don’t want to have to click through every single link to read the content. I miss their one flat page.

    • indeego
    • 10 years ago

    Looks “acceptable.” From a page design perspective it’s pretty bad, wish you used more whitespace, utilized full wide-screen in the wide-screen mode. Everything looks kinda mashed/shoved together. Were I a first-time reader I suspect my eyes wouldn’t know exactly where they should be drawn to. Then again you are dealing with a lot of geeks and we work more on data than looks.

    I parrot the sentiment to get your site mobile optimized. I would visit more from the droid if it were like a-[

    • Bensam123
    • 10 years ago

    You know you could’ve junked the ataglance web page. I’ve had the ‘old’ news page as my homepage for years, even after you changed to the new layout.

    I vote get rid of the now ‘old’ news page and replace it with the classic one. I don’t really think anyone liked the now old layout. I’m still using the blue theme for instance as I’m sure a lot of people are who found the little hidden button for that.

    The newer look is definitely better then the ataglance look, but still is full of garbage and is cluttered. The old news page is one of the things I appreciated about techreport compared to other websites. It was down to the nitty gritty and easy to navigate. Maybe I’m just old school and don’t like fluff?

      • aatu
      • 10 years ago

      … Wait, what?

      Either
      1) that was sarcasm, in which case I have to work on my sarcasm-radar
      2) you didn’t really read any one of the comments before you (or simply ignored them), and based the “general” opinion solely on your own opinion
      3) I’m grossly misunderstanding you (I thought you implied nobody liked the previous (now ataglance.x) layout)

      I’m grateful they’re keeping the ataglance.x alive, most sites probably wouldn’t bother with this. But simply scrapping it could lead to an uprising…

    • BooTs
    • 10 years ago

    The absolute worst thing about the new layout is the GIGANTIC PICTURES for the articles. They are more obtrusive than your advertisements.

    Aside from that I am more than willing to give the new front page format a try. It doesn’t seem that bad other than scrolling past pictures so I can try to read the news.

    Infuriating.

    • ronch
    • 10 years ago

    I don’t like it.

    • aatu
    • 10 years ago

    Could have seen this coming…

    For the more curious, check the amount of comments before and after the layout change. I’m seeing a HUGE drop. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon?

    Which is kind of sad, because at least for me the discussion is big part of the whole picture. Let’s hope it’s because the recent news are boring, and that the next week will be different.

    PS. To get a better view of the amount of comments, it’s better to use §[<https://techreport.com/ataglance.x<]§ (The "Whoa... new look"-post is about half way through, btw.)

      • VILLAIN_xx
      • 10 years ago

      Yep, i’ve noticed the big comment drop. I mainly come here to see topics to my interest and see the gerbils contribute their input. Its a damn shame the input levels appear to be cut in half.

      The site kind of just lost its appeal with the new format. Now, it’s ugly to muck through the 2-8 paragraphs per topic. The short breads are just as annoying to be forced to scroll through, if not worse.

      I think the new format should be replaced at the “at a glance” link with “Here’s an eye poke.”

      Nope, I’m not book marking “old” layout either. The moderators seemed to to just be ramming it down a lot of people’s throats. Not like i’m anyone special here, but i’m just surprised how its practically unanimous this new lay out isn’t doing the site any justice.

      • Firestarter
      • 10 years ago

      I think this is mainly because with the old layout, you automatically view the comments on any single page article when you read it. Now you can read the article but you’ll have to actually click on the little comments link to see any comments.

        • aatu
        • 10 years ago

        Yup, sounds about right.

      • designerfx
      • 10 years ago

      it’s because they made it harder to find the actual current articles.

      this is honestly a really poor design.

    • Ragnar Dan
    • 10 years ago

    Didn’t read much of others’ comments, but, I don’t like the fewer Hot Forum Threads, and I don’t like the lack of a link to the forums underneath that. Yes, I know I can go look for the Forums mess at the top of the page, but I’ve avoided that More item for quite some time because on one of my machines with a small display, it blocks what I was actually aiming for when it drops down. Which means it’s a hazard I’ll have to avoid on one machine (which has a crappy mouse pointer too), but use on others.

      • Damage
      • 10 years ago

      Just click on “Hot forum threads,” which is itself a link.

        • Ragnar Dan
        • 10 years ago

        That helps, thanks. But I’d like the longer list on the front page, too, so I’ll probably use the /ataglance.x thing.

    • [+Duracell-]
    • 10 years ago

    Am I the only one that doesn’t mind scrolling down until I’ve read something I’ve seen already? For reference, I used to use the old news.x.

    I do like how the most recent articles are now prominently displayed instead of having the one most recent with a list on the right of the next.

      • Firestarter
      • 10 years ago

      I don’t really mind, but I do mind the 4 gargantuan shortbreads that I have to scroll by.

    • provoko
    • 10 years ago

    LOOKS GREAT! =)

    • south side sammy
    • 10 years ago

    So how’s about it TR ?…. You gonna listen to the people or are you going to pull an Obama and do what the people DON”T want. Several days in and I truly can’t stand this shit any more.

    • alex666
    • 10 years ago

    Okay, I went to TR for the first time since you changed the format, and I’ll be honest, it looks chaotic to me. Stuff all over. Unless I have the windows all the way open, I have to scroll down to see the news. It just all looks terribly thrown together, no intuitive arrangement.

    Don’t worry, I’ll still be coming here to TR as I always do. This format will change eventually.

      • Cyco-Dude
      • 10 years ago

      a lot of people said that exact same thing when it changed to the last (now at a glance) layout!

    • johnrreagan
    • 10 years ago

    So how long will the “.x” old style be around? I like the easier-to-read News Section. The new one is too dense (and shorter).

    • MJZ82
    • 10 years ago

    Dude this site sucks now… *un-bookmarked*.

    • AMDguy
    • 10 years ago

    I like it. All I ever do on the site is cruise the news section anyway, so it saves me a click.

    However, if there’s a decision to change it again it won’t ruffle my feathers. I’m adaptable. 🙂

    • darksynth
    • 10 years ago

    Just wanted to say that i have already started getting my news elsewhere. While having ataglance bookmarked at home is all fine and dandy, im not going to have that when i have time to use a computer at work…

    Sorry TR, I use to come here several times a day to look up snippets of news i had time to read but now that whole process takes too long. Scrolling through stuff i have already seen or dont care about is a real time consuming hassle that i dont have or want to deal with. TR use to be my all in one stop, now ill just keep you guys around for the nice reviews, I just don’t have the extra time this awful layout requires.

    BTW having a picture and 2 sentences with a whole lot of blank space under “read more” is a really boneheaded design choice. This is the most prime real estate on your site. There is no way to navigate said space Even if it did present something i was interested in seeing but didnt click on it right away. This is web design 101! Does not compute.

    • DrCR
    • 10 years ago

    l[<"so we've redirected the old "News page" to point to the new front page"<]l Bummer. It was the closest thing I knew of to the old site layout. 🙁

    • yogibbear
    • 10 years ago

    I smell evil sarcasm. Let’s rephrase the question…

    Did Stevie ask you kindly (while shoving some cash into your pockets) to change it to this for his iSuck?

    • Willard
    • 10 years ago

    Thumbs down. I can’t find anything, and it really plays up the annoying “World XX Day” ‘bread titles. They are now even more intrusive.

    • dpaus
    • 10 years ago

    OK, look, I’m really trying with the new layout, but…

    Damnit, it’s so hard to /[

    • clone
    • 10 years ago

    dislike the change, don’t know why it was done / why you had to mess with success.

    I don’t know if I’ll switch my homepage to another website yet but likely will… will give it some time but really don’t think much of the change for the sake of change offering no improvement.

    F’ing hate when websites do this, it’s why I stopped going to Tom’s Hardware back in the day and came to TechReport… now Hardware Canucks is looking better than ever.

      • Inkling
      • 10 years ago
      • Cyco-Dude
      • 10 years ago

      lol, how is that layout any better than this one? the article part is the same except theirs is vertical, and you still have to scroll to see everything else. i’m not sure i prefer the “read more” style either…it’s somewhere in between a link and a post, doesn’t seem to have any benefits besides less scrolling than tr’s current style, but more than tr’s link-only style.

      • Chrispy_
      • 10 years ago

      People who hate change don’t deserve technology.

      For things to get better you have to experiment, feedback, improve. Luddites can stick with the old version at their inconvenience.

      Your dislike of this change will probably be taken into consideration for future improvements. Your ‘throwing the toys out of the pram’ will probably be taken into consideration by others wishing to mock you in the present 😉

        • clone
        • 10 years ago

        lol, you are talking to someone who doesn’t care even a little.

        I’ll come back to TechReport on occasion to see if it changes and to take what I’m interested in, the difference is I’ll be using TechReport instead of being a part of it until they come up with something better.

        as mentioned Hardware Canucks will be the new for me mainpage, nothing lost a little gained….. how moving to something better makes me a luddite seems like a flawed comparison but whatever.

    • gerryg
    • 10 years ago

    My favorite TR homepage is still §[<http://tech-report.com/<]§

    • Fragnificent
    • 10 years ago

    Ehh, this is awful, like I said before. Those of us with uhhh HD monitors which are now the norm, have to scroll half a page or more to see anything important. Fail. Also, it seems like there are a ton more ads. Old format please? I hated the change to fixed width that was made before, this just makes that worse….boo.

    • eitje
    • 10 years ago

    Yo, 2010 new look thread, I’m really happy for you and I’mma let you finish, but the 2007 new look thread is the best bitching about something on the internet of all time. OF ALL TIME.

    §[<https://techreport.com/discussions.x/13087<]§

      • Skrying
      • 10 years ago

      I’m all for change but change must have a benefit. Honestly I think this is a set back and I’ll probably end up using a RSS feed for TR now instead of visiting the front page. That’s less views for TR. I wish it wasn’t the way but frankly the new page is a hassle to view. I don’t think the idea for the design is bad exactly. Just that certain design decisions like a Read more… instead of full article listings (see Engadget) and a top rotatory that takes up less vertical space.

      In a computer age that is vertical resolution challenged TR just went to a less vertical space efficient layout.

        • bthylafh
        • 10 years ago

        I would prefer that the top rotary was smaller, at least vertically.

      • Convert
      • 10 years ago

      Lol, well done.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 10 years ago

      Very nicely done.

      And what’s amusing is that SOME people want to go back to what they were complaining about in twenty aught seven.

    • Fighterpilot
    • 10 years ago

    The front page as it is right now looks bloody awful.
    It’s almost as tho the server isn’t working right and has left half the page unrendered.
    The shortbread layout doesn’t match the setup of the rest of the page and looks like it was just jammed in there.
    I’m all for a new look and design for TR….this however isn’t it.

    • SHOES
    • 10 years ago

    I find this new layout confusing maybe I’m the only one… It seems so cluttered to me. Maybe ill get used to it.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 10 years ago

    All you’re missing is a TR iPhone app and the transition will be complete. :p

    Also, I’m digging that pic on the front page. Is that David Caruso in the Matrix?

    • SnowboardingTobi
    • 10 years ago

    Since you’re already remembering who we are when we make these comments… can you make it remember which front page view we like as well? Helpful when I click on the TechReport logo wanting to go back to the home screen. Would rather it took me back to the old look than the new.

      • Stargazer
      • 10 years ago

      q[

    • henfactor
    • 10 years ago

    The pic for this article is epic.

    • flip-mode
    • 10 years ago

    This was probably all or partly done for the iPad / iPhone crowd. Damage, did that play a role in designing this new look?

      • Damage
      • 10 years ago

      Nope!

        • designerfx
        • 10 years ago

        so what did influence such a poor design decision, exactly? alcohol? The new layout is horrible.

        The issue is not the layout itself, but how TR works. Articles are good, but long. Therefore, now these enormous previews list the articles. The bar at the top with equivalent of “Featured articles” takes up the entire screen on 1440×900, meaning I can’t even see the day’s articles listed. You also keep the articles listed in a tiny tiny tab. Just a FYI, but that’s actually the only thing I want to see.

        Not hot topics, not hot threads, not blog posts.

        Why not, I don’t know, allow people to reconfigure this stuff themselves via ajax or php or .net or something?

    • Obsidian
    • 10 years ago

    So uhhh… can we get the old one back now?

    • Damage
    • 10 years ago

    A list of news items has been added, and the boxes above have been compressed to make it all fit. Perhaps that will help some of you unwilling to bookmark ataglance.x?

      • flip-mode
      • 10 years ago

      Even though I had bookmarked it, I think that’s a good move. It is now worth considering if I need to bookmark the alternate.

      • Convert
      • 10 years ago

      Thank you very much!

      • Cyco-Dude
      • 10 years ago

      *shrugs* some kind of hybrid between the two previous designs? boxes and links and scrolling oh my! less cluttered look than the old homepage / ataglance page in my opinion, but seems more cluttered than the old news.x page? lots of boxes now! oh well, pick your poison i guess…

      poor damage can’t win; good job responding to input though.

      *edit 1* something i noticed though about the article boxes: if you compare the homepage to the at a glace page, the glace page’s article boxes all seem to have the entire leading paragraph whereas the homepage’s box (the smaller ones under the main box) does not, even though the two appear to be the same size. it’s like the contents are formatted differently. the at a glance’s smaller box formatting is better too in my opinion, with the picture on the left instead of the right. it catches the eye and leads you into the intro paragraph. something to look into?

      *edit* maybe move the “more featured articles” link up just below the main article boxes instead of below the top discussion / system build boxes?

    • Convert
    • 10 years ago

    I really liked the new layout but I am finding that no “latest news stories” box is a deal breaker. “Top Discussions” is interesting and all but I find the latest news more useful to me.

    Ah well, I really do dig the new look but without a condensed latest news box so I can see if new comments have been added means I can’t use the new layout.

    Also I don’t like that the hot forum threads count was reduced from eight to five. Should be more like ten anyways 🙂

    • aatu
    • 10 years ago

    First thing that comes to mind is WHY? The previous layout was perfect for opening all the interesting articles in new tabs (middle click with mouse). This new layout basically tries to eliminate this (except for comments).

    And at the moment I can only see one definite beneficiary: user of a mobile devices (no mice). Well, as long as you keep the ataglance.x alive, it’s fine by me.

    • Skrying
    • 10 years ago

    Too much scrolling. TR really needs to embrace the “Read more…” concept.

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      They did just that with the previous design.

        • Skrying
        • 10 years ago

        Sure but they can keep this new format but use article previews instead of the full things. Look at Engadget for a clue at what I mean.

        • derFunkenstein
        • 10 years ago

        are we reading the same site? Everything that was on the previous front page, which requried scrolling to see all the most recent articles, is on this front page all at the top with no scrolling at all. It don’t get much more info-packed.

          • MadManOriginal
          • 10 years ago

          You must have one crazyass display because when comparing current regular TR to ataglance.x by opening both in new windows, current regular TR clearly has less information and some things are obviously not immmediately visible. It’s almost like you just said that without actually comparing them side by side.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 10 years ago

            §[<http://www.flickr.com/photos/derfunkenstein/4615390930/<]§ §[<http://www.flickr.com/photos/derfunkenstein/4614771455<]§ These two pages are not in the same league. I scrolled a tiny bit down on both pages - actually scrolled a tiny bit more on the ataglance page - and the information density on the current page is much higher than the information density on the ataglance page. And to top it off, the information available on the current page is of higher quality - give up the week-old news headlines and give me the hot discussion topics and most recent forum threads instead, and remove some ads. You have to just be stupid or something.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 10 years ago

            Your at a glance is missing an entire column which contains Hot Forum Threads, Poll, Tech Jobs, shacknews and Beyond3D. I figured out why…you don’t use the ‘wide format’ by clicking the little double arrow on the right hand side of the categories menu. Who’s stupid now? There’s no reason to figure that non-wide apect ratio should not be the major focus of page design in this day of wide (16:10) and wider (16:9) aspect ratios. Sorry if you’re stuck on an old 4:3 monitor or something with 1990s era resolution like a netbook.

            • khands
            • 10 years ago

            It’s really an inconvenience until the rest of the internet gets on board, which is the reason I keep my browser in my 4×3 screen instead of my 16×10. While I’m glad they’re doing it, it’s frustrating in the short term.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 10 years ago

            I suppose it’s more about resolution than aspect ratio. The former really determines how much can be displayed, the latter just affects how it’s displayed.

            What are the resolutions of your two monitors?

            • khands
            • 10 years ago

            1680×1050 and 1280×1024

            • Meadows
            • 10 years ago

            I use a 4:3 screen, and still found the “wide” mode.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 10 years ago

            Nobody’s stupid when you’re stuck with a 1024-wide monitor at work.

      • odizzido
      • 10 years ago

      No, they really need to keep the scrolling.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 10 years ago
      • PerfectCr
      • 10 years ago

      DerFunk, I think your links are messed up I keep getting redirected to a Yahoo login.

        • derFunkenstein
        • 10 years ago

        Well, crap. I’m new to flickr, i’ll see what i can do.

        edit: Should be fixed. I edited permissions to be public.

    • wira020
    • 10 years ago

    Doesnt look so good… maybe you guys can shorten each displayed post to 10 lines or something.. that way i wont have to scroll down so much.. and like some guy pointed out, each post need to be differentiated like background colour or bigger tittle and space between them… kinda confusing…

    • jstern
    • 10 years ago

    I’ll stick to the old style, since sometimes I follow the comment on multiple stories, and having to scroll up and down and then clicking is not as easy as just glancing and clicking. No I won’t have multiple tabs open all day. I rather just go to techreport when it crosses my mind, rather than having the tabs staring at me all day, causing me to refresh.

    • DrDillyBar
    • 10 years ago

    Very nice.
    I always used the news.x link to start after the last redesign.
    I also do like the fact that you supplied ataglance.x this time around.

    • Rakhmaninov3
    • 10 years ago

    Also, the new look loads faster for me.

    • Faceless Clock
    • 10 years ago

    TR: Hey guys, check out the new layout!!!

    Fans: Eh…I don’t know about this…

    (One day later) TR: Hey thanks for the feedback, we didn’t change anything about the new layout and it is live now!

    Fans: :facepalm:

    • Rakhmaninov3
    • 10 years ago

    I like this new layout, and not having to reload pages constantly to read different news articles.

      • willyolio
      • 10 years ago

      that’s what tabs are for…

      the old design was more convenient for me. no need to scroll through articles i’m not interested in to read the ones that do interest me.

    • LaChupacabra
    • 10 years ago

    This completely changes the way I use TR to get my news. With the old layout I would open any link I was interested in in a new tab. Everything was presented without any need to scroll down and all the tabs kept everything organized. Opening pages in a new tab also put any forum comments at the bottom of every article. I thought the old layout was a brilliant design, intended to keep everything organized. This “new” one seems like a giant step back, whose main function is to make us look at more adds.

      • grantmeaname
      • 10 years ago

      except there aren’t more ads, as has been amply demonstrated. In related news, “Addvertisement” is not a word, and “Advertisement” is.

        • LaChupacabra
        • 10 years ago

        I said look at more ads. I’m pretty sure TR charges more for ads at the top of the page than ads that people have to scroll to see. Also, capitalization is your friend.

      • ew
      • 10 years ago

      Agreed!

      • Skrying
      • 10 years ago

      Except you’re not looking at more ads. You’re looking at less. The ads stop right after the “fold” (the banner on the right goes past it slightly). Also, because you’re not loading new pages that each have pages on it you’re only getting ads on first load.

        • LaChupacabra
        • 10 years ago

        Good point. Makes it more of a shame that the design was changed. Instead of having windows summarizing everything I cared about (the news and TR originals) it’s spread out. Like instead of having a book with an index page, all the pages were ripped out, the index removed, and put onto one really long wall.

    • bthylafh
    • 10 years ago

    I’m dismayed by all the nerd-raging retards complaining.

    The previous look is still available, as has been pointed out several times. You just need to update your bookmark.

      • Rakhmaninov3
      • 10 years ago

      Bingo! I like the new layout better anyway, it’s more like the original TR.

    • Hance
    • 10 years ago

    I hate change give me the old tr back.

    • nerdrage
    • 10 years ago

    Looks good, though I’d like to see more threads listed under the “Hot Forum Threads” heading. Ten or so would be great. Five is just not enough.

    • yogibbear
    • 10 years ago

    Probably going to stop visiting this site on a daily basis now… might remove it from my auto start firefox thingy… just not good on the eyes anymore or carpal tunnel.

      • outcast
      • 10 years ago

      The old Format is still available … just book mark this link
      §[<https://techreport.com/ataglance.x<]§

      • grantmeaname
      • 10 years ago

      “PgDn” is very effective at moving the viewing window of the page down. You may also want to consider the TR at a glance link; as far as you were concerned it would be like nothing ever happened.

        • yogibbear
        • 10 years ago

        Thanks. PgDn is in a weird place on my keyboard… bit retarded taking my right hand off my mouse to use the RHS of my keyboard that isn’t the numpad… being left handed and all. Might tough it out /wrists.

          • Usacomp2k3
          • 10 years ago

          You can use the spacebar as a pagedown most of the time in webpages. That’s what I do as it’s much larger and easier to hit.

    • TechNut
    • 10 years ago

    It’s not so bad. The look is similar to other sites, but, that’s not always a bad thing.

    My only comment is I wish that you guys would use “teaser” paragraphs, and not full “etc.” or “Dual-GF104 graphics card could be in the works” article. For these quick ones, if you could go to a smaller teaser paragraph, with a “Read More” button, that would be much better.

    As it stands, it’s a pain to scroll on handheld devices such as the iPhone, etc. It’s scrollable, but it’s a fair amount of work to get down to the bottom. Engaget, Boy Genius Report, Gizmodo, news.com, etc. i.e. almost every news type site on the internet, use the teasers to keep the scrolling length to a minimum.

    About the only thing I would not put in “teaser” format, would be the short-bread.

    Otherwise, not bad.

    • IWantMy_
    • 10 years ago

    Change is Bad.

    Initial opinion, and I visit techreport 3 or 4 times a day, is that it now follows the trend as assuming we all have infinite bandwidth connections.

    Now when I scroll down, click on a link from the short bread, read a story, and return, I have to see the front page rendered, wait for the flash and adds on the right, then wait for it to autoscroll back down to the previous position. Very disconcerting after a few articles.

    • yfital
    • 10 years ago

    Its impossible to see anything.

    Too much data and text on the front page, have to scroll infinitely to see stuff…

    I don’t mind the new design, just revert the the full text for each post to read more links

    • Blain
    • 10 years ago
      • PerfectCr
      • 10 years ago

      That’s what I’m talking about!

      • jss21382
      • 10 years ago

      God I miss that layout.

      • Jigar
      • 10 years ago

      Perfect layout… Bring it back…

      • PerfectCr
      • 10 years ago

      This was THE BEST layout ever. I am still longing for the old TR back. I know we will never see it again, but I can always hope. :'(

      Also, whatever happened to the shortbread being SHORTbread. The SB posts now take up half the page. If you are not going to cut it off with a READ MORE link, then at least shorten it significantly.

        • bthylafh
        • 10 years ago

        I have to agree with this.

        edit: I mean about the Shortbread being so big.

      • flip-mode
      • 10 years ago

      It was, and still remains, the best.

      • LaChupacabra
      • 10 years ago

      That’s really interesting. The dark background with white text is much less eye-splittingly annoying than the current default homepage.

        • PerfectCr
        • 10 years ago

        You can make it blue like the old TR. hit the little A/A icon near the top right corner of the page. 😉

      • A_Pickle
      • 10 years ago

      Haha… WOW.

      NO.

      • Sanctusx2
      • 10 years ago

      <3 This was the best layout!

    • Pasdepardon
    • 10 years ago

    My impression is that “preview” text for articles is a waste of space. Keywords describing the content of news stories (or other daily/weekly reports) would IMHO be better.

    I still don’t get why when you click on a shortbread news link, it doesn’t open the link in a new tab (my firefox is setup correctly).

    TR posts a “major story” every 4-5 days. I check this website everyday, 2-3 times a day… now seeing the front page with articles changing at weekly drip speed, doesn’t give me the “report” feel that I had with the news list.

    I fear for the first time, I’ll use RSS feeds to get TR daily updates, instead of going to the site.

    However, change is a good and welcome idea.

    • timbits
    • 10 years ago

    going back to original TR scrolly news is much better than the last layout

      • nstuff
      • 10 years ago

      Funny, personally, i agree. I had all my techreport bookmark/favorites pointed to the “old old”‘ style where it is more of a blog style… you just scroll through all the stories. So, when they just made this update and re-directed my bookmark to the main page, I hardly noticed.

      When they made the original change, everyone was complaining, funny to see people complaining again.

    • can-a-tuna
    • 10 years ago

    Don’t fix it if it isn’t broken.

    • internetsandman
    • 10 years ago

    I much prefer the old layout. It was much easier for me just to read through the headlines in the news and forums and open interesting stories in new tabs, which I would read from there. Here, we have to scroll through all the latest news, skipping over a lot of stuff we may not find interesting, in order to look for stuff that does interest us. This is something that we didn’t have to do with the previous layout.

    Also, I just find this layout generally unattractive. The massive block of “what’s hot” just seems obtrusive and unnecessarily bulky. In my mind, this new layout sacrifices efficiency AND attractiveness for what is claimed to be ease-of-use for new readers.

    One more thing that I’m sure a lot of readers may not approve of: the time span between releasing the preview, and releasing this as the main page. One day surely wasn’t enough to gain enough data on responses, not to mention enough to make your decision.

    Overall, dislike entirely.

    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 10 years ago

    Genuinely dislike.

      • entropy13
      • 10 years ago

      Agreed. Now Tech Report looks like EACH AND EVERY OTHER TECH SITE I VISIT, barring a few details. Now I need to scroll and scroll, and scroll…So much for Tech Report being “different from the rest”.

        • pullmyfoot
        • 10 years ago

        +1 I liked the old layout much better

        • NeXus 6
        • 10 years ago

        Yeah, it appears someone looked at Anandtech and decided to use a similar layout as if that’s in style these days. Granted, TR’s new layout isn’t as bad as Anandtech’s, but the scrolling for news stories makes it less user friendly.

        If this new layout helps their ad revenue increase then more power to them.

          • Stargazer
          • 10 years ago

          q[

            • NeXus 6
            • 10 years ago

            Maybe the new strategy is get more eyeballs looking at the ads in the right column to help increase the CTR. They’ve positioned some popular site areas there like the system guide and hot forum threads, maybe hoping of getting more ad clicks.

            I think Damage mentioned in another article that CPM was more important at TR, but maybe there was a drop in payout, so they’re looking for a way to increase revenue.

            It could be that Damage just wanted a less cluttered look, so he decided to go old school blog style. I guess we’ll find out in the next TR Podcast.

        • grantmeaname
        • 10 years ago

        because they ‘all’ involve scrolling they must therefore be identical in every other metric? I don’t think that logically follows.

      • davisbd23
      • 10 years ago

      +1 old layout was better. Trying to view the new site on my phone, where scrolling really is an issue is no good. Glad there’s still the “at a glance”.

      • flip-mode
      • 10 years ago

      +1. Infinite scrolling fail FTMFL. Thank goodness they are keeping the old layout available. I’ll be changing my bookmarks to point to that.

      • twizttid13
      • 10 years ago

      I too will be using the old layout. This new one is just not as efficient.

    • green
    • 10 years ago

    overall i can adjust to this pretty quick*
    only thing is “what’s hot” is a little too large
    i’m using [that which cannot be named] to hide the box
    it only seemed to rotate through a blog post and news article
    if something else of interest goes in i might unhide it
    only side effect is the ‘min-height’ on the container is creating a gap
    may need to use [unsure if can be named] to get around that

    otherwise i don’t mind the change
    top ad still looks out of place floating in the middle of ‘nowhere’ like that
    but not something i’ve seen any other site deal with any better

    *this is having come from using /news.x over the old homepage

    • yogibbear
    • 10 years ago

    Getting RSI from scrolling…

    • Damage
    • 10 years ago

    Guys, I keep having to delete posts due to profanity. Express your opinions civilly, please, and that won’t happen.

      • glacius555
      • 10 years ago

      Well, looks like my post got deleted. I guess I will have to re-formulate it: Among other things, I believe that one of the reasons to do this was an immense potential of placing as many ads as possible. This is just a guess of mine, a mere observation.

      As for my personal opinion, I liked previous compact looks more.

        • Damage
        • 10 years ago

        Nah, your post just got pushed to page two. And you’re wrong. We have no more ads on the page and no plans to increase that number.

        We are giving folks *more* info per page load here, not less.

          • glacius555
          • 10 years ago

          I see:) I can see that you’ve implemented some minor changes, it is much better now!

      • grantmeaname
      • 10 years ago

      but I’m so f***ing p****d off that you dared to change my techreport! Nerdrage!!!!

    • PinkCow
    • 10 years ago

    Honest opinion? Total crap. Can’t find anything. Unusable. Cut this “1337” shit & KISS, TYVM.

    • Hurst
    • 10 years ago

    Not hating,.. just not feeling it.

    I didnt like it when the original design was changed but I finally got used to it. Now I have to re-learn where everything is all over again. Baah,.. but I’ll still rummage through and read as usual.

    Wouldnt it have been better to hold a poll to see how the majority of the readers felt before making a final decision? Just an idea.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 10 years ago

    If the “top discussion topics” box could be to the left of whatever shows first in the XLWide view, I’d say it’s darn near perfect. Right now the XLWide view has the first article’s box just being XLWide too.

    It’s probably be alot of extra effort for not alot of gain (I’m probably the only one that thinks that’s a good idea). I like this layout, but then again I like the new anandtech layout too.

      • Damage
      • 10 years ago

      Yeah, top discussion topics needed to be moved up, and so it has been.

    • Jon
    • 10 years ago

    I don’t understand what scrolly news is. I don’t see anything scrolling around on screen.

      • grantmeaname
      • 10 years ago

      all the news posts appear in their entirety on the main page and you have to scroll down to see those that don’t fit on the monitor.

    • Prototyped
    • 10 years ago

    Sweet!

    I’ve been using the News page ever since the previous design launched, because news.x presented what /[

    • holophrastic
    • 10 years ago

    This is just so much way better again. I was one who lambasted the previous design (when it was new) because I lost the ability to scan the home page, read three articles, and leave. Now, I can again, and it’s great!

      • Cyco-Dude
      • 10 years ago

      did you not try the news page instead? it’s just like this layout, only with a more compact article section.

    • herothezero
    • 10 years ago

    I like it. Perhaps not as much as the page design from ten years ago, but I like it. Then again, I really like the last design as well.

    • OneArmedScissor
    • 10 years ago

    I don’t understand why the news links column was totally removed. There is room for it. This does not save clicks if you want to see the comments, which move a heck of a lot faster than the news itself does.

    You’re making people decide between two layouts based on functionality that isn’t layout dependent. That’s just silly.

    • lethal
    • 10 years ago

    At first I thought “somebody messed up my news.x!”. The What’s Hot takes a bit too much space for my taste, but I guess this is as close as the old news.x as we’re ever gonna get.

    • outcast
    • 10 years ago

    g{

      • MadManOriginal
      • 10 years ago

      Sense – your post makes none. How can you have this q[

        • outcast
        • 10 years ago

        Trolling … OK

        Don’t be silly … the entire thing was about the full page not what you see depending on your browser height/width…

    • sschaem
    • 10 years ago

    Liked the old format better.. allot less scrolling around.
    The new format seem ‘retro’ just one big long list.

    The front page should be short and ‘sweet’ , with everything a click away.

      • Irascible
      • 10 years ago

      Ditto. I’ve got the at a glance page bookmarked.

      • twizttid13
      • 10 years ago

      Agreed. Was very organized before now. Now I have to scroll through a ton of shit…

    • End User
    • 10 years ago

    The narrow view looks very good, especially on mobile devices (iPhone/iPad).

    The wide view, which I had been using prior today on my desktops/laptops, is awful – far too much wasted in the top section and the “Latest News Stories” section is far too wide. Is the wide view necessary with the new look?

    • NeXus 6
    • 10 years ago

    Looks very blogish now and there’s a lot of dead space in the top featured articles. I’d make the excerpt longer or would increase the font size for the title and text. Right now it doesn’t stand out enough.

    Overall it’s a cleaner design for the news articles, but scrolling way down to find other stuff in the right column is taking a step backwards and sort of me-tooish.

    • Madman
    • 10 years ago

    Well, the first impression is not very good for me. Maybe it’s because I use tiny 1024×768 screen. But vertical space on all monitors is pretty tiny.

    Maybe I just have to get used to the layout.

    I like the 99 layout as well. Very dense and easy to scan over.

    • PopcornMachine
    • 10 years ago

    I like it! Definite improvement, not overdone. Thanks.

    Pro: Shortbread is right on the front page.

    Con: NO SHORTBREAD FOR TODAY!!!! I GOTTA HAVE ME MY DAILY SHORTBREAD!

    j/k

    • SomeOtherGeek
    • 10 years ago

    Ok, I spent a couple hours here.

    I like it. Takes a little getting used to, but that is ok. Change is always good for anyone. I like the “hot topics” box. Have always wanted a easy way to get to the forums as I know it gets really interested in there at times.

    The way I see it, is that it is your site to do as you please. People will always moan and groan about change. They will calm down and move on.

    So, all in all, keep up the good work as your site rivals with the best!

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      “Hot topics” was there before, too.

        • titan
        • 10 years ago

        Yes, but not so conveniently located.

          • Meadows
          • 10 years ago

          It was already at the top of the page, how much more convenient would you like it to be?

        • SomeOtherGeek
        • 10 years ago

        Looked and DAMN! Didn’t even notice it. I guess I should have looked harder. Too late now.

          • flip-mode
          • 10 years ago

          May spend a few hours instead of a couple next time?

      • south side sammy
      • 10 years ago

      Dude, who in the hell spends 2 hours on ANY web site ? There porn here somewhere ?

        • SomeOtherGeek
        • 10 years ago

        Shh! Don’t tell everyone.

        I’m a slow reader and like to absorb everything. I’m the weird one.

          • south side sammy
          • 10 years ago

          LOL……………..

      • flip-mode
      • 10 years ago

      q[

    • themattman
    • 10 years ago

    I like it.

    • Geatian
    • 10 years ago

    I like it! 😀

    • TaBoVilla
    • 10 years ago

    a little too long 🙁

    • south side sammy
    • 10 years ago

    This is already nightmarish. You need to at least put the “shortbread” right up front because I don’t know where the hell it is now. And I gotta comment that EVERY site that “updated” the look of their sites this year totally Fricked it up. Yours is no exception…. sorry…

      • Asbestos
      • 10 years ago

      Shortbread is in the Breadbox! I love that. Just wish there was a news box.

    • glacius555
    • 10 years ago

    Whoa! Look at all that indefinite space that can be used for flash ads!

    • l33t-g4m3r
    • 10 years ago

    Does anyone remember how the old page was?
    All the news and threads were at the top of the page. No clutter.
    Very Google-esque, and informative.

    We should go back to that layout, and not lol-random, screen space wasting layout and pictures.

    Well, pictures can stay, but there is still a lot of screen space wasting.
    For example, there is almost an entire inch of wasted screen space on the main article darwinia, from read more to comments.
    That level of waste is unnecessary, and the pic could have been made smaller.

    Look at the original design, and tell me how this new one is an improvement.
    §[<http://web.archive.org/web/20070615204556/techreport.com/<]§ Pictures can just be added to the news article as you scroll. We don't need pictures wasting all the space at the top.

      • travbrad
      • 10 years ago

      I agree completely. That old page has an ideal layout. Like you said everything you are looking for is right there at the top of the page with more detail below. The color scheme could be improved a bit (not animated gifs :p just a bit more variety), but the layout itself is pretty much perfect IMO.

      As for the new layout, I wish we could still have the news column on the right (that would jump to the story) in addition to the scrolling news. With so much widescreen horizontal real estate on most people’s monitors, it just makes sense to use it.

      • End User
      • 10 years ago

      That layout had its day. Lets not go back there.

    • jjj
    • 10 years ago

    “Yes, there’s more scrolling but fewer clicks, a trade-off we believe most folks will appreciate in the long run”

    How is it better to scroll through a lot of things that might not interest you instead of clicking on only what seems interesting?
    How is fewer clicks better for you (your revenue).?
    Have you considered the extra bandwidth and load time for this new very long front page? I saved both versions just to see the size: old version 424 KB.new version 878 KB.

    • Krogoth
    • 10 years ago

    Here comes the wambulance.

    • Duck
    • 10 years ago

    I want the old one back… the blue one…

    • PerfectCr
    • 10 years ago

    Nothing beats the original TR layout from 99!!!!

    • StuG
    • 10 years ago

    I finally figured out what I dislike about it the most, with the at a glance I see far more information and navigational paths than I do on this new page.

    We went back a step.

    • Stargazer
    • 10 years ago

    I much prefer the old version.

    Fortunately, I’ll still be able to use that thanks to ataglance.x.

    • Peffse
    • 10 years ago

    Heh, I like the new layout. Of course, at 1024×768 I need to scroll a bit to get to the articles, but that was true for the news exclusive section too. Suppose it’s just time to get a larger monitor.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 10 years ago

    Goddammit you went and changed it less than a day after announcing it even given the mixed reviews. I guess I should have figured it was more of a ‘this is done so suck it’ rather than ‘what do people think’ type of thing. Now I can’t take a screenshot of the old version to show how much less information is presented in the new ‘old’ format. *Nevermind, I see how I can get the previous view. What sucks is when I click the TR icon at the to it brings me to the noobified front page.

    I think the two could be melded to get the best of both worlds but tbh it seems kind of silly to swap ‘news.x’ for ‘ataglance.x’ I’ll be using the latter for sure, the new ‘old’ format just presents so little information and I’m afraid it will cause news post discussions to die out much more quickly than they have in the past and that was one of the best partts of TR. Since when is i[

      • NeelyCam
      • 10 years ago

      +5. The new format sucks.
      Anandtech made the same mistake; why does everyone have to follow?

      Switch it back NOW. F*ck noobs.

        • Cyco-Dude
        • 10 years ago

        not sure why people complain so much, the old news page is still there, and the new front page looks almost exactly like the old news page. you can still get what you want. still prefer the old news page to this one though…there’s a lot of empty space in that first big article box at the top. wonder what the larger changes will be now…

          • NeelyCam
          • 10 years ago

          How long do you think the old page is going to be there? My guess is that it’ll be gone in less than a week.

            • odizzido
            • 10 years ago

            the old old page(news.x) was there until today so I imagine until the next redesign.

      • wibeasley
      • 10 years ago

      l[

        • MadManOriginal
        • 10 years ago

        My post was originally written before I saw there an ‘at a glance’ option that replicates the previous version which quells most of my vitriol, I just didn’t edit out the strong nerdrage.

        As for ‘noobs’ what I mean is not new users but rather less technically inclined ones or those who just want news aggregator or less indepth technical information. I haven’t got a problem with those types of people I just don’t think that’s who TR has typically catered to, any of the articles that talk about new architectures for example go way indepth beyond what those types of people probably care to read about. For them there are already simplifed sites like engadget or gizmodo.

    • Sargent Duck
    • 10 years ago

    Scott (and team). It’s become painfully obvious that there is not enough reviews on your plate to keep you busy, thus you’re doing “make work projects” and changing the home page yet again.

    Just kidding. Going from the old old page to “old” page (last week) was a big change for me, but I was too lazy to go to /news.x and thus quickly adapted. Likewise, in similar fashion, I’m rather indifferent to this new one and am too lazy to go to /ataglance.x. I predict it’ll take me 6 days to forget the old one and be comfortable with this new one.

    That being said, it’s good to see TR continuing to adapt and trying to improve itself. Of course, I’d still be coming here even if you never changed from the old old site, but you have to attract more people to continue to grow. And attracting new people means change.

    All in all, good job.

    • henfactor
    • 10 years ago

    I like it. A lot.

    Keep up the good work guys!

    • StuG
    • 10 years ago

    Poll for which one is best?

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      There’s an idea.

      • cynan
      • 10 years ago

      Sounds like a reasonable idea. Damage?

      I remember when the last format change debuted to much balking and complaining (yours truly not excluded). But I got used to it in no time and perahps even prefered the previous layout to the one before.

      Bottom line, it is not the end of the world either way, and if this format is truly easier for TR to manage, then so be it.

      However, if it makes no difference, how about leaving it for a week or so to let people get used to it and then have a vote?

        • Cyril
        • 10 years ago

        If we’d put it to a vote last time, TR would have probably stuck with the old, pre-2007 scrolly layout.

        §[<https://techreport.com/discussions.x/13087#jazz<]§

          • TaBoVilla
          • 10 years ago

          ouh! that layout was sweet!

          • VILLAIN_xx
          • 10 years ago

          YES, a vote please. 🙁

          Too much scrolling. Clicking seemed easier. This new format reminds me of TGdaily but with out the images next to the topics.

          Ps. My bad. i meant to reply to #4

          • MadManOriginal
          • 10 years ago

          The old pre-2007 layout had more in common with the 2007-2010 layout than it does with the current layout. See post #26 for proof…’Featured Articles,’ ‘Top topics’ etc all presented immediately upon viewing the homepage and one click away. Those ‘hot stuff’ lists are now scattered about even more than the 2007-2010 layout making ‘customer friendly go to what you want immediately’ navigation worse.

          A melding of all three could work really well and suit everyone. Put the various ‘hot topics’ listb[

    • Vasilyfav
    • 10 years ago

    I like it. I don’t have to click every shortbread anymore.

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      Yeah, now you have to scroll for 49 seconds.

        • Vasilyfav
        • 10 years ago

        No, I only have to do that when 50% of the 100 comments are your trolling.

        • Damage
        • 10 years ago

        Meadows, your objections are noted, but I’m not going to allow you to troll and spam this thread with sour grapes. You do that too much all over the site as it is, but you won’t be doing it here. Consider this notice.

          • bthylafh
          • 10 years ago

          Finally. Thank you.

    • nookie
    • 10 years ago

    Haters gonna hate.

    • Meadows
    • 10 years ago

    Change it back change it back change it BAAACK

      • Sargent Duck
      • 10 years ago
        • Meadows
        • 10 years ago

        I know, thank goodness for that.

        “We think this layout is less intimidating” my ass, it’s a forsaken /[

          • StuG
          • 10 years ago

          I have to admit that I am not too fond of it. Too much information and whats with the weird 4 huge column thing that isn’t consistent? The other one was pleasant to look at, easy to read, and what I loved the most…straight forward. Too many tech-sites have weird front-pages like what TR’s has turned into…I always valued that TR was cut and simple.

          I guess that’s probably not the majority. Please god never remove that at a glance page though, as I am using that for my homepage from now on 😛

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