Windows 7 run out of Moorestown, heads down Oak Trail

AnandTech has learned that Intel’s Moorestown platform won’t be capable of running Windows. Moorestown powers the Atom Z600 series that targets smartphones and tablets. MeeGo Linux and Google’s Android OS are already supported by the platform, but Windows won’t work due to Moorestown’s lack of a PCI bus.

The newly announced Oak Trail Atom platform will reportedly add PCI connectivity by combining Moorestown’s Lincroft system-on-chip with a Whitney Point Platform Controller Hub (PCH). AnandTech says this new PCH expands on Moorestown’s existing Langwell PCH, adding Serial ATA connectivity, HDMI output, and an HD audio interface. Oak Trail should arrive in the first quarter of 2011.

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    • ironoutsider
    • 9 years ago

    Wait, this is my chance! “What’s wrong with intel?”
    Brains!!!

      • eitje
      • 9 years ago

      You’ve been working this joke for a while. i think it’s finally hit: LOL!

    • eitje
    • 9 years ago

    q[

      • axeman
      • 9 years ago

      it could even require “isa” for all we know, at least the modern version of it

      §[<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Pin_Count<]§

        • mnecaise
        • 9 years ago

        ISA is a legacy bus that is addressed through a PCI Bridge device.

      • mnecaise
      • 9 years ago

      Look at the Device Manager, selecting <View><Devices by Connection>. Almost everything passes through the PCI bus “device”. Including the interrupt controller and the system timer which are critical to the kernel’s operation. The Windows kernel certainly appears to be tied to the “PCI bus”, by design.

      Question is, how hard would it be to change this? And why would they, since the OS is designed to target x86 PC’s and servers.

        • eitje
        • 9 years ago

        thank you very much! 🙂

      • yuhong
      • 9 years ago

      It is more than just no PCI bus, I’m not sure that the rest of the platform is even IBM PC compatible. There is no way to be sure without a datasheet on the Langwell PCH, but for one thing it uses SFI instead of ACPI required by Windows.

    • wira020
    • 9 years ago

    Microsoft is just being lazy.. instead of pushing Windows 7 into tablets, they could have just make a new OS for tablets.. I know it would be hard for them to be accepted at first, but if they dont start soon, they might be too far behind to compete…

      • Ricardo Dawkins
      • 9 years ago

      or maybe they should made a phose OS and port it to a tablet. 😉

        • mnecaise
        • 9 years ago

        That’s just crazy talk…

    • dpaus
    • 9 years ago

    Curious…. Yet another win for AMD’s Llano/Bobcat?

      • chuckula
      • 9 years ago

      No, since Llano/Bobcat are aimed at completely different markets and could never be shoehorned into the devices in question with a reasonable battery life. This is only a loss for people who wanted to run Windows 7 on a mobile phone…. both of them. (P.S. Windows 7 Mobile is a completely different OS from the regular Windows 7 discussed in this article. I don’t know Win 7 mobile even runs on x86)

        • sweatshopking
        • 9 years ago

        7 mobile is arm as of yet. no word on whether they are porting to x86.

          • Helmore
          • 9 years ago

          The Windows Phone 7 image that comes with the developer tools is a fully working version that natively runs on the x86 architecture. No emulator of some sort, you basically just run the full image in a virtual machine. In other words, there is an x86 version of WP7.

          The reason that this works is because all the applications are written in managed code and as a result are independent of the underlying hardware ISA.

            • sweatshopking
            • 9 years ago

            thanks man, that’s good to know. I had read that it was ARM only, though that was a long time ago. I appreciate the update!

            ssk

        • OneArmedScissor
        • 9 years ago

        “No, since Llano/Bobcat are aimed at completely different markets and could never be shoehorned into the devices in question with a reasonable battery life.”

        Boy, you sure know a lot about things that don’t even exist!

          • Game_boy
          • 9 years ago

          Llano is for desktops and laptops, given its official power envelope.

          Bobcat is a bit of a mystery. Its design and power envelope mean it could target those devices… but would AMD want to get in that market?

          We know the layout of Bobcat’s core and its TDP range from Analyst Days. It looks like Atom’s ideas done properly, as in not just Pentium III++.

      • flip-mode
      • 9 years ago

      No. Win for Linux.

        • Game_boy
        • 9 years ago

        WinCE, lol.

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