Etc.

Have an interesting system on the test bench here in Damage Labs.

Memory count at boot time takes a while, though.

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    • thebeadfairy
    • 9 years ago

    Hello all..I’m building my own system and haven’t done so in many years. Had a problem with my last desktop, and decided to build rather than buy this time around. I decided on the over sized tower case from Corsair 800 D because of the tremendous amount of room inside the case and overall should be useful for upgrading for years to come. Space wasn’t an issue for me but the sheer weight will be eventually (laughs). Anywho.. taking my time with the build but a list of these components to be placed inside, many of which were the direct result of reading these forum reviews ๐Ÿ˜€ for I am so thankful they are here to reference to.

    Asus P6X58D mother board.. the alternative was evga motherboard but..Asus has provided for the “new” 3.0 USB ports so decided to run with it.

    Went with the Intel i7 960 well, mostly because I was going for i7950 wanted the i7 975 (too expensive) but found the 960 packaged with the Asus as a build kit..grabbed it..smiles

    The Ultra 850 boasts power usage for doubling of the video cards (crossfire) but later found out need 1000W but since I decided to go with the high end video card, decided 850W would suffice ; but regrettably over priced ๐Ÿ™

    corsair dominator memory modules 6gb x 2 (12 total) didn’t realize it would be in the form of 3 x 2048 …

    Wanted to see or find more information on the sd hard drive technology and also sit and wait for prices to fall… so basic 500gb western digital hard drive was chosen… two … one energy efficient (green) sata the other 500gb regular sata anyhow.. was also wondering how slow the “green” will be vs the basic…is it worth the trade off?

    os Micosoft professional 64 …couldn’t see the value in the Ultimate version for my needs.

    basic sound card and dvd cd/readwrite asus no particular reason exception of the motherboard same ..

    Will try and keep an update on my progress. So happy I found this “group”. Thank you TR

      • thebeadfairy
      • 9 years ago

      quickly … forgot to mention video card ๐Ÿ˜€ is an EVGA GTX 980 …

    • Aphasia
    • 10 years ago

    Hmm, reminds of me a glimpse in a Technet webcast with Mark Russinovich(Sysinternals) where they had a system with abit too many cores. I think they actually tested with the top limit for the higher versions of windows. 128 or 256 threads and a couple of TB of ram. That said, the task manager looked just about worthless at that point ๐Ÿ˜›

    • shank15217
    • 10 years ago

    Ohh quad socket 8 core opteron? Or maybe dual socket 8 core sandy bridge! Maybe dual socket Interlargos????!!!!?

      • indeego
      • 10 years ago

      .5 of a Cyrix with 64-HT haxg{<.<}g

    • sweatshopking
    • 10 years ago

    I did want to say… what’s with the ugly theme? seriously, that system can probably handle running it with the win 7 theme on… .

      • djgandy
      • 10 years ago

      It’s a server. You don’t run fancy UI’s on servers.

        • anotherengineer
        • 10 years ago

        Why not?

        Don’t get me wrong I own win2kpro and the GUI is perfect ๐Ÿ™‚

          • indeego
          • 10 years ago

          It’s the default, and hopefully Damage has better things to do, like Alt+Prntscreening taskmgr and twittering and podcasting his faceweb2.0 app iphone *head asplodesg{<*<}g

            • Ragnar Dan
            • 10 years ago

            That was good.

        • ganz
        • 10 years ago

        Yeah, because you don’t have enough cores to… oh wait.

          • djgandy
          • 9 years ago

          Nothing to do with power. In fact any good server administrator will just use the Server Core installation which doesn’t even have windows explorer.

          It’s a server, it shouldn’t need a UI.

            • UberGerbil
            • 9 years ago

            Exactly. Most servers will spend the vast majority of their lives with no display attached whatsoever, so any UI is useless; you’re going to be using remote desktop (or some other VNC-style connection) to talk to it anyway, the rare time you actually need to once it is set up.

    • DarkUltra
    • 10 years ago

    Uhm.. with a slow software based UI applications won’t be updating as fast either. With uTorrent you can set the update speed to be for instance 60 or 120 depending on your monitor and when you get a fast download it will look fast too ๐Ÿ™‚

      • djgandy
      • 10 years ago

      Why would he have a software UI?

    • jackbomb
    • 10 years ago

    First thought was: Cool, NT4!

      • indeego
      • 10 years ago

      No services,networking, or users tabs, and it says “Windows NT Task Manager”

      But yeahg{<.<}g

      • Krogoth
      • 10 years ago

      Nah, it is clearly Windows 2008 R2 Enterprise.

    • Krogoth
    • 10 years ago

    Wow, it was only three years when that kind of power as only found in small irons a.k.a high-end server boxes with four sockets tagged with other core-logic chips.

    You can obtain the same power in a run of a mill, dual-socket LGA1366 workstation/server board.

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      You can put 128GiB of RAM in a “run of a mill, dual-socket LGA1366 workstation/server board”?

        • Krogoth
        • 10 years ago

        Depending on the amount of DIMM slots. It can be expensive to bloody expensive. Again, not long ago this option was non-existent for dual-socket boards.

          • yuhong
          • 10 years ago

          Yea, Intel had to extend the physical address width of their LGA771 Xeon processors from 36-bit (64GB) to 38-bit (256GB) in order to support it. FYI, the first processor to have this extension are newer stepping of Xeon 5100/5300 processors. All Xeon 5200/5400 processors have it too. The first chipset that have 38 address lines coming out are I think the Intel 5400 chipset which support up to 128GB of RAM.

    • DarkUltra
    • 10 years ago

    Uhm and a side effect of the UI running slow and using a lot of CPU means applications will have lower update rate. In uTorrent for instance you can increase the update rate to 60 and when you get a fast download, it also looks fast ๐Ÿ™‚

    • TaBoVilla
    • 10 years ago

    I’d still probably use all that just to watch porn.

      • FuturePastNow
      • 10 years ago

      And heat your house.

    • miken
    • 10 years ago

    That’s al/[

      • axeman
      • 10 years ago

      I have over 9000 of everything. </tired meme>

    • Buzzard44
    • 10 years ago

    Wait a second – I’ve seen those specs before…

    You’ve got HAL 9000!

    • cookwithvette
    • 10 years ago

    Oh, MAN I could use something like this at work. I have a couple data files (3D point clouds) that are over 100 GB in size and they are just a misery to work with on a machine with only 16 GB of RAM. I should be getting a workstation with 48 GB of RAM and 2 6-core Xeons soon which will be very nice but dammmnnnnnnnn.

    • Cuhulin
    • 10 years ago

    Is this the new system requirement for Windows 8?

      • ClickClick5
      • 10 years ago

      YES! Best laugh I have had in a while! Spot on!

        • DarkUltra
        • 10 years ago

        From joke to serious, Windows 7 really needs extra CPU speed as most UI operations are no longer hardware accelerated. Yes GDI+ had most of its stuff hardware accelerated on the graphics card. Vista introduced WDC where the windows was rendered to a 3d face and the GPU composed them (comparable to Quartz Compositor). This eliminated tearing when you moved a window around. But they threw out all the GDI+ acceleration and let the CPU do it all. This is a huge step backwards, and there is even more tearing if you i.e resize a IE8 window.

        ยง[<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFgYylqP_U<]ยง WDDM 2.1 introduced many GDI operations back to the GPU, but it still is not very fast. A few years now MacOS and iPhone have had the UI entirely on the GPU, with the CPU only issuing relatively small drawing calls to the CPU. Much like a 3D game. They gradually moved Quartz 2D to the GPU. ยง[<http://media.arstechnica.com/images/tiger/quartz-10.0-4.png<]ยง I wish Microsoft have done the same, but I hope Windows 8 will feature Direct2D and run entirely on the GPU, and we can wave goodbye to tearing, slow full-screen picture and file scrolling, super-fast thumbnail creating, fancy, smooth, quick and tactile UI animations (but they shouldn't slow the user down). Apple actually chose a faster GPU instead of a faster CPU in their recent laptops. This may be a good choice in the future on Windows too.

          • leigh crusio
          • 10 years ago

          I believe the reason they moved this stuff from the GPU to the CPU is the same reason the build the whole sound system in software instead of relying on third party drivers.

          I think the trade off is worth it, just for the increased stability and massive reduction of system crashes from XP to 7×64

          Also i miss my Audigy 2 ZS platinum pro but some plonker paid ยฃ150 for it on ebay ๐Ÿ™‚

          • djgandy
          • 10 years ago

          Vista was software. Win7 is hardware accelerated. See WDDM 1.1. However when Vista gets WDDM 1.1 it will still use software.

    • tejas84
    • 10 years ago

    Blatantly an EVGA SR-2 Motherboard review!!

    • JdL
    • 10 years ago

    The real question is how many of those cores are physical and how many are virtual (i.e. HyperThreaded).

    Looks like a quad i7-based Xeon box (4 x 8 threads).

    Anand’s chart was pretty cool too: ยง[<http://www.anandtech.com/show/3846/quad-xeon-7500-the-best-virtualized-datacenter-building-block-/4<]ยง

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      Read Damage’s twitter feed (which is right here on the front page). It’s a quad socket motherboard, but he only has two sockets filled. That’s two Xeon-EX CPUs, each with 8 cores and 16 threads.

      Now if he filled the other two sockets, we’d have quite the taskman screenshot.

        • ludi
        • 10 years ago

        /[

        • Captain Ned
        • 10 years ago

        But that means I have to go to Twitter. Not happening here.

          • thecoldanddarkone
          • 10 years ago

          A twitter feed is on the front page. It was on it a bit ago.

          • bthylafh
          • 10 years ago

          Come on, old farts are supposed to love Twitter.

          • UberGerbil
          • 10 years ago

          No, it would mean you would have to read my post (or at least already know that the twitter feed is on the front page, where you can read it without having to use twitter. I don’t use it either, and somehow I figured that out)

      • thecoldanddarkone
      • 10 years ago

      That said I don’t use twitter or facebook.

    • Synchromesh
    • 10 years ago

    <Darth Vader voice>Impressive. Most impressive!</Darth Vader voice>

    • StashTheVampede
    • 10 years ago

    You can run a VM inside a VM in another VM (and a few more) with that kind of HP behind the hood.

    That machine should now be labeled InceptionTR

    • bhtooefr
    • 10 years ago

    You know what screwed with me?

    Seeing that number and “MB” instead of something like “KB” above it.

    I was thinking, “why would a 32-way system take forever to count 128 megs of RAM? for that matter, why or how would a 32-way system only have 128 megs of RAM?”

    (Technically, I think it is possible… if it’s a Pentium Pro system…)

      • KeillRandor
      • 10 years ago

      Nice to see I wasn’t the only one who thought that, initially. Didn’t think 128MB of RAM sounded right… (128GB of RAM is a bit more like it though ๐Ÿ˜‰ ).

      • FireGryphon
      • 10 years ago

      nm

      • d0g_p00p
      • 10 years ago

      My FreeBSD server is a dual Pentium Pro with 128MB of RAM. Been in service for over 10 years. Maybe at some point I can upgrade to a 32core 128GB server

    • sweatshopking
    • 10 years ago

    Is this the system for the next contest? if so, i’ll do anything for it. beat my mother to death, star in a zombie pron, you name it, i’m in.

    • Spotpuff
    • 10 years ago

    Would this be an appropriate machine for email and youtube?

    • eitje
    • 10 years ago

    What surprises me is how ANY kernel memory has ended up paged.

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      Some paging is always present even if you have not specified a pagefile.

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      That’s not what that means.

      The entry labelled “paged” kernel memory is the size of kernel paged pool, ie how much kernel memory /[

        • eitje
        • 10 years ago

        That’s a great write-up. Thanks, Uber. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Xylker
    • 10 years ago

    OK, we /[

      • Damage
      • 10 years ago

      Been talking about it on Twitter.

        • Gerbil Jedidiah
        • 10 years ago

        Insert shameless plug… oh wait…

        j/k, but I’m not gonna sign up for tweet tweet just to figure out what kind of rig this is=)

    • paulWTAMU
    • 10 years ago

    My epeen is now vanished ๐Ÿ™
    What the heck sort of monster are you testing? Why not wait until winter when you could use the heat? Can you cook on it when it’s under load?

    • SNM
    • 10 years ago

    My 16-core Opteron dev server is feeling sad right about now.

    • Spyder22446688
    • 10 years ago

    Duplicate post, my bad.

    • drfish
    • 10 years ago

    Should I take this as confirmation you won’t be able to make it to the BBQ? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      What do you think will be /[

        • khands
        • 10 years ago

        Stick a couple of GTX 480’s in there and you’ve got yourself a number crunching food preparing master piece.

          • ClickClick5
          • 10 years ago

          As well, a heater, and a swell grill!

          Just throw together a heatsink that combines the heat of the three 480s and the four CPUs together.

    • A_Pickle
    • 10 years ago

    Oh god.

    …well, now my task manager just looks ridiculous.

      • Trymor
      • 10 years ago

      Turn off hyperthreading in the BIOS ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Try

    • khands
    • 10 years ago

    I like how most of these replies are being internet tough geek. 32 threads is some nice stuff.

      • UberGerbil
      • 10 years ago

      Nothing like a taskman screenshot to get the poseurs to reflexively reach for their e-peen.

        • Trymor
        • 10 years ago

        …and nothing like the obvious e-peen to bring out the uber-intelligent to point it out so mere mortals understand…

        Try

    • Tamale
    • 10 years ago

    who installed *windows* on such a fine piece of hardware? that’s what I want to know. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • bigdubs
    • 10 years ago

    we have production servers with more cores. 128gb of ram isn’t that much. you can dell r910’s with more beefy setups (1tb ram and 4×6 core chips)

    • nookie
    • 10 years ago

    128GB of RAM??

      • ClickClick5
      • 10 years ago

      Indeed so. Windows, programs, all his games…they all load into ram.
      (Only if. Boot up, take out the drive. :p)

    • Game_boy
    • 10 years ago

    Nehalem-EX?

    And did you manage to get a Magny-Cours sample system in the end?

    • Jigar
    • 10 years ago

    But can it run Crysis at Max settings ?

      • [SDG]Mantis
      • 10 years ago

      No. Nothing runs Crysis at max setting.

      • Trymor
      • 10 years ago

      Ok, that one is getting old. Maybe the new questing will start to be: Will it run Crysis 2 (3,4,5…) on Min settings…heh.

      Try

      • Meadows
      • 10 years ago

      That’s so 3-years-ago. Mafia II is the new meme.

      • ShadowTiger
      • 10 years ago

      Does crisis even use more than 2 cores? Certainly not more than 4. That’s a stupid question. (The funniest jokes are intelligent also)

      • blastdoor
      • 10 years ago

      Kill-files are so awesome. I wish we could just revert back to usenet news as the only form of Internet discussion forum.

      • hapyman
      • 10 years ago

      I think you meant… “Can it run Mafia 2 at max settings?”

        • jackbomb
        • 10 years ago

        Can it run the SC2 menu without blowing up?

          • Meadows
          • 10 years ago

          That’s a matter of cooling, not performance.

            • ludi
            • 10 years ago

            Can it run circles around your logic?

      • Shining Arcanine
      • 10 years ago

      It should be able to use software rendering to render Crysis.

    • Cova
    • 10 years ago

    /shrug – I’ve seen bigger…

    How many of those processors are only logical anyways? (Guessing 1/2 from HT – likely a dual-8-core, possibly a quad-quad-core)

    Looks like a good platform for ESX/vSphere to me.

    • radix
    • 10 years ago

    Nice. Looking forward to the review, this is exactly the sort of thing I need at work.

    • Helmore
    • 10 years ago

    Let me guess, your TI-83 just wasn’t good enough for the kinds of calculations you intended to do?

    • 5150
    • 10 years ago

    Yawn. Wake me when SSD’s are $1 per GB.

      • Damage
      • 10 years ago

      Krogoth? Is that you?

        • Spyder22446688
        • 10 years ago

        God, I love it.

        • UberGerbil
        • 10 years ago

        And the meme is complete.

          • Trymor
          • 10 years ago

          Thanks Uber! now I don’t have to hit an uban dictionary or sumpthin.

          Try

        • 5150
        • 10 years ago

        You know it’s a good troll when it brings Damage out of the shadows. LOL

          • UberGerbil
          • 10 years ago

          That’s not a troll, it’s a “setup / punchline” bit that’s older than vaudeville.

            • 5150
            • 10 years ago

            Heh, I just wanted to make sure everyone knew I didn’t mean it.

            • Trymor
            • 10 years ago

            Whatever. I’m with your first post….

            Try

      • Krogoth
      • 10 years ago

      Its official, I have achieved meme status.

      (ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: 1000GP – BECOME A MEME!)

        • bthylafh
        • 10 years ago

        Does that mean you can leave now?

          • Meadows
          • 10 years ago

          You wish.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 10 years ago

            You wish, too. And so do I. :p

            • Krogoth
            • 10 years ago

            U MAD?

        • Fragnificent
        • 10 years ago

        Fucking Krogoths, how do they work?

          • Corrado
          • 9 years ago

          +1 I’m sure not many people with get the reference. Mircales…

    • bthylafh
    • 10 years ago

    Splorf! Where does one find a motherboard that can hold 128GB of RAM?

      • Chrispy_
      • 10 years ago

      Quad socket boards come with 8 slots per socket, giving you 128GB with 4GB modules.

      Not even into risers territory yet!

      • jdaven
      • 10 years ago
        • StashTheVampede
        • 10 years ago

        Owning a Tyan board has always been a goal of mine. Well, them and Supermicro. For my daily use, I just can justify a quad board of that size and price.

        To own a current board? OH MAN!

          • bthylafh
          • 10 years ago

          I used to have one back in the Socket-370 days. Great board. Too bad they abandoned the consumer space.

          • just brew it!
          • 10 years ago

          For several years my primary desktop was a Tyan Tiger MPX (dual Socket A). Very nice system, rock solid stable. I actually thought about resurrecting it a few months back as a server box, but it seems to have lost the ability to boot reliably at full speed. It’s also rather power-hungry.

          I still have one running Tyan-based system (a Socket 939), which is currently acting as my file server. This one actually gave me some grief — it is apparently very picky about RAM. I eventually just downclocked the RAM and called it a day.

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