AMD’s Barts Pro, XT may replace the Radeon HD 5800 series

When detailed specifications for AMD’s upcoming Barts Pro and XT graphics cards (a.k.a. the Radeon HD 6750 and 6770) leaked out earlier this week, I said all we needed now was some pricing information. The folks at Fudzilla aren’t quoting any figures, but their latest Barts-related story provides some pretty strong hints. Reportedly, AMD’s two 6700-series cards will replace existing Radeon HD 5800-series offerings.

Fudzilla also says the launch is still on for October 18, contradicting a recent DigiTimes article that said AMD had postponed the two newcomers until November. AMD does have new cards primed for November, though: Cayman Pro and XT, which should be positioned above the Barts series. A dual-GPU "Radeon HD 6970" should follow later this year, Fudzilla adds.

If the 6700-series Radeons replace today’s 5800 series, they could start at the same $180 as the Radeon HD 5830 and go up from there. Considering there are three 5800-series Radeons on the market right now, though, I doubt AMD would supplant that whole lineup with just two new cards. The specs posted earlier this week hint that even the Radeon HD 6770 is no match for the existing 5870, too.

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    • ultima_trev
    • 9 years ago

    I’m speculating:

    + HD6750 will be a bit slower than either iteration of GTX 460 and priced a little lower than GTX460 768MB.

    + HD6770 will be a bit faster than HD5850 and supplant it at its price point, while HD5850 will move down to meet GTX460 1GB.

    + Because it will be early to mid 2011 before Cayman or the 512SP GF100 become mass produced, as both players rely on TSMC’s 28nm fab rolling full throttle, nVidia will probably in the meantime counter HD5970 with a dual GTX460 1GB part, which should win in most benchmarks since SLI scales more efficiently and also should be priced lower.

      • TaBoVilla
      • 9 years ago

      don’t smoke it all at once, save some for later =)

        • ultima_trev
        • 9 years ago

        Huh? What exactly do you find far fetched? I’m sensing the nVidia fanboyism runs strong in you…

        Back on topic: There’s rumors that Cayman is 1.5x everything that Barts is (shaders, TMUs, ROPs, memory controllers), so assuming this is true and the broken tessellation method from Cypress is fixed, Cayman XT will probably perform about 20% better than GTX 480, while Cayman Pro will probably perform similarly, albeit at a much lower price. Sucks to be nVidia right now, since they probably won’t have a competing product for another year…

    • Chrispy_
    • 9 years ago

    I had to buy a 460 today because my 8800 assploded ahead of schedule.

    Pricing on 5850 is still silly compared to 460’s in the UK. For that matter, the pricing on 460 1GB’s is silly in the UK:

    460 768MB =

    • OneArmedScissor
    • 9 years ago

    Romg the 7870 may be even moar fastar!!1!1!!!

    • mcforce0208
    • 9 years ago

    I have a pretty good feeling though that the 6870 will not come near to the gtx480 in performance. Its a beast that will easily dominate anything that AMD can “throw” at it…..Trust me

      • BoBzeBuilder
      • 9 years ago

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

      • can-a-tuna
      • 9 years ago

      Can I quote you after two months?

      • RtFusion
      • 9 years ago

      Successful troll is successful.

      • TaBoVilla
      • 9 years ago

      this’ll be my week’s submission at funnyjunk

    • spigzone
    • 9 years ago

    Since they are on the same 40nm node, logically they will fill in existing performance/pricing gaps facilitated by the architectural/design improvements since the 5800 series.

    6750 – between the 5770 and 5850 (assuming 5830 is EOLed)
    6770 – between the 5850 and 5870
    6850 – between the 5870 and 5970
    6870 supplants the 5970
    6950/70 new kings of the performance/pricing hill.

    Pricing is going to be the interesting part with Nvidia forced into VERY aggressive 450/460 pricing to bulwark their crumbling market/mind share … and forcing AMD to follow suit in those segments. A guesstimate:

    5750 ~ $100
    5770 ~ 130
    6750 ~ 170
    5850 ~ 200
    6770 ~ 250
    5870 ~ 300
    6850 ~ 380
    6870 ~ 450
    6950 ~ 550
    6970 ~ 700

    That would continue the lead piping of Nvidia and still provide nice to very nice profit margins.

      • BoBzeBuilder
      • 9 years ago

      Cool imagination bro!

        • spigzone
        • 9 years ago

        Thank you for much.

      • douglar
      • 9 years ago

      Third time I’ve read this text today. How many places on the internet are you planning on posting that?

        • spigzone
        • 9 years ago

        Two places. Here and Semi-Accurate. Been considering putting it on Anand … what ya think, good huh?

    • Sargent Duck
    • 9 years ago

    All this hippity-hoo-hah about the 67×0, how about some 6850 rumor love? That will be my next card.

    • Kurotetsu
    • 9 years ago

    WAAAY too much bullshit being thrown around about these cards. At this point I’m not believing anything anyone says until the actual cards appear.

      • flip-mode
      • 9 years ago

      Gotta agree with that.

      • khands
      • 9 years ago

      Agreed, need a real review by TR before I’ll believe just about anything concerning these cards.

      • can-a-tuna
      • 9 years ago

      “Fudzilla says…” that pretty much sums it up.

      • FuturePastNow
      • 9 years ago

      Good job to AMD for orchestrating this rumor overload. We have no idea what is actually coming.

      • ModernPrimitive
      • 9 years ago

      My sentiments exactly.

      • TaBoVilla
      • 9 years ago

      same

    • Voldenuit
    • 9 years ago

    AMD to release a card that is slower and more expensive than the card it replaces? I wouldn’t put it past them. -_-

      • bittermann
      • 9 years ago

      Yeah, Nvidia is usually the one to do those sorts of things…the 2XX GT/S series is the king of that category.

      • can-a-tuna
      • 9 years ago

      This whole model B is replacing model A talk is in very abstract level. Of course 6000 series is going to replace 5000 series. 6700 can be a totally new category for AMD to fight GTX460. It doesn’t need to “replace” any previous moder.

    • wira020
    • 9 years ago

    If the leaked slides are real… the 6770 would replace 5850 and considering past releases, it could be priced a little higher than than the card it replaces… Considering that some leaked photos shows it having connector for 4 display, this would negate the effect of reduced sps and justify the higher price because of added features.. I’m hoping that AMD’s feeling generous and release it cheaper..

      • khands
      • 9 years ago

      The 5850 is still priced to high, I think the 6770 could replace it at its current price.

      • sschaem
      • 9 years ago

      The 6770 seem to fit in between the 5850 and 5870.
      AMD might take (5850 price + 5870 price) / 2 = $315

      The 6750 would be around $210

      6750($210), 5850($240), 6770($315), 5870($370)

      Does that make sense for their 256bits lineup?

      • MadManOriginal
      • 9 years ago

      Didn’t you know? Companies no longer use advances to make something as good as the previous one only cheaper but rather make a replacement with added features which may be superfluous for many users at the same price points. Otherwise revenue would fall and lord knows we cant’ have that!

    • flip-mode
    • 9 years ago

    In before the fanboys!

      • Jigar
      • 9 years ago

      Ridicules comment you have ever posted.

      BTW, this card’s price should fall below the replacement card or else everything is in vain.

      • sweatshopking
      • 9 years ago

      that’s what she said

      • khands
      • 9 years ago

      This stuff needs to start getting nuked, I’m tired of seeing it on every single article about AMD or Intel or whatever.

      • Chrispy_
      • 9 years ago

      First!!1

      Actually, flip-mode does appear to be on point today:
      There be fanboys ahoy!

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