AMD updates Phenom II price list

Sandy Bridge chipset snafu or not, AMD has quietly updated its price list for Phenom II processors. The new list includes a fair number of cuts as well as a handful of new chips, some of which we included in our Sandy Bridge review earlier this month.

Now, these cuts and additions apply only to the Phenom II X4 and Phenom II X6 lines. Dual-core Phenom II X2s are still listed at the same prices as before, but if they could speak, they’d probably be huddled in a corner sobbing and questioning their purpose. Next to a 3.2GHz Phenom II X4 priced at $105, the 3.3GHz, $102 dual-core part looks awfully unappealing, even when you take its unlocked upper multiplier into account.

But I digress. Here’s are the affected processors with their current and former bulk pricing:

Processor Old price New price
Phenom II X4 840 $105
Phenom II X4 955 BE $145 $135
Phenom II X4 965 BE $165 $155
Phenom II X4 970 BE $185 $175
Phenom II X4 975 BE $195
Phenom II X6 1055T $199 $175
Phenom II X6 1065T $185
Phenom II X6 1075T $199 $195
Phenom II X6 1090T BE $235 $205
Phenom II X6 1100T BE $265 $239

As you can see, the quad-core Phenom IIs are all $10 cheaper than before, and AMD has chucked in two new models—one at the low end and one at the very top of the line. In the Phenom II X6 family, prices have dipped as low as $175, although AMD’s fastest desktop offering remains not far from the $250 mark. That’d be a tough sell next to Intel’s blisteringly fast Sandy Bridge CPUs… if those Sandy Bridge CPUs had shipping chipsets to go with them. (Thanks to TR reader Mister Burke for the tip.)

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    • kamikaziechameleon
    • 9 years ago

    The X6 processors are still competative in certain applications.

    • just brew it!
    • 9 years ago

    It is getting difficult to resist the urge to bump a couple of my existing AM2+ systems up to X6s…

      • no51
      • 9 years ago

      Just do it. We won’t tell your wife. She won’t notice. Just scavenge the office fridge for your lunches.

    • sschaem
    • 9 years ago

    Newegg carry the 1090T BE for $200.
    The one I tested undervolted to 1.125v (running prime endlessly at 3.2ghz)

    • Mattman
    • 9 years ago

    Where do you see those prices? I can’t seem to find a retailer with a Phenom II X4 840.

      • demani
      • 9 years ago

      Actually, what is the 840? What’s the difference compared to the 955? Because that might be worthwhile from a 4550e (or whatever I actually have)…

        • ET3D
        • 9 years ago

        The 840 is a renamed Athlon II. It doesn’t have the L3 cache of the Phenom family. Why AMD chose to call it a Phenom is beyond me, I can only guess they hired some ex-NVIDIA marketing people, which is why the Radeon 6xx0 family had its numbers bumped up and this CPU got such a misleading name and number.

    • OneArmedScissor
    • 9 years ago

    Too bad the 1065T didn’t show up in retail earlier. Those only come as 95w and they’d have been a nice option. That will work in some mini-ITX boards with integrated graphics, which doesn’t appear to be something Bulldozer will cover.

    • mxjcmxjc
    • 9 years ago

    I was actually going to go SB [Been an AMD guy all my life since the K5 :0)] however due to the latest Intel news. I now have 3 choices.

    1. Wait for Sandy Bridge fix. April\May
    2. Get an AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE etc…. [Offers the same Gaming Performance at Higher Resolutions to Sandy Bridge | Lower Price Point than Option 3]
    3. Get an 1366 Mobo and Processor etc…. [Great Performance and I can get it now and ditch it in 2 years. For whatever is out then.]

    What do you think I should do?

    EDITED*
    Current System for those asking. Budget for my build is 1,300.00 USD
    AMD 939 3500+
    2 GB DDR RAM
    8800 GT

      • tejas84
      • 9 years ago

      2. Get an AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE etc…. [Offers the same Gaming Performance at Higher Resolutions to Sandy Bridge | Lower Price Point than Option 3]

      Umm I’m sorry but since when did Phenom II EVER offer the same game performance at higher resolutions than Sandy Bridge or even Nehalem?

      Your rationale on point 2 is flawed. The AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE( God what a mouthful) is adequate but really a poor mans Core 2 at best.

      Go for Point 3. X58 and Nehalem are still plenty fast for todays GPU’s and for other heavily threaded apps. LGA 2011 (X58 Successor) isn’t due till the last quarter of the year. X58 platform can be had quite cheap today due to platform maturity.

        • mxjcmxjc
        • 9 years ago

        After taking an objective look at all the reviews anything over 1680×1050 and up the difference is less than 5 FPS in most cases. The SB benchmarks alone made me want to switch. Plus the fact that I could run either an ATI or NVidia Graphics also sweetened the deal more. This whole SB SATA debacle couldn’t have come at a worser time. :sigh:

      • dpaus
      • 9 years ago

      Isn’t Bulldozer supposed to be a drop-in upgrade for AM3+ motherboards? If so, I’d say your path forward is pretty clear…

        • jalex3
        • 9 years ago

        am3 will work in am3+ not the other way around.

        • shank15217
        • 9 years ago

        Where do you see AM3+ motherboards?

          • A_Pickle
          • 9 years ago

          They don’t exist yet, as Bulldozer has yet to ship… :/

      • jalex3
      • 9 years ago

      Phenom II X6 1090T BE ….1100 is was waste of extra money.
      or perhaps stay with what you have and wait for the 1366 replacement and/or bulldozer

        • tejas84
        • 9 years ago

        Correct. AM3 chips can drop into an AM3+ Bulldozer board but not the other way around.

        Will probably drop my backup rig AMD Phenom II X6 1090T into a Bulldozer 990FX mobo when it comes out.

        AMD do have an upgrade path although it is not all that different from Intel’s this time around.

      • Arclight
      • 9 years ago

      If your in a dire need for an upgrade and you can afford it go for the 3rd option. If you can wait then go for option 1.

        • sweatshopking
        • 9 years ago

        or wait for bulldozer/sb fix/release, and decide then.

          • NeelyCam
          • 9 years ago

          EDIT: Recalled and fixed.

          Yes. Depending on what you have [i<]now[/i<], stay put, and wait until you have more options. Lots of stuff coming out soon: SBFixLlanoBulldozer2011SB25nmSSD... I know you're itching to buy cool new fast stuff, and year after year even better stuff will come out "next year", but BD is promised to be a major leap forward - I'd say it's always worth waiting a bit for those major leaps (remember Nehalem?)

            • sweatshopking
            • 9 years ago

            “what you have now” * fixed if for you 😛 Take that Tiff!

            • NeelyCam
            • 9 years ago

            G*ddammit!!

            That slipped past validation and burn-in..

            • dpaus
            • 9 years ago

            At least it’s not going to cost you $1,000,000,000, as in “One beeeel-ion dollars!”

      • flip-mode
      • 9 years ago

      If you’ve been AMD that long then you should try to wait for Bulldozer!

      • NeelyCam
      • 9 years ago

      I think the key question is: what do you have now?

        • mxjcmxjc
        • 9 years ago

        My current system is OLD!!! It’s an AMD 939 3500+ [Single Core] with 2 GB’s of Ram and a 8800GT. So I really need to upgrade and somewhat soon. I’ve got a ton of games that I purchased during the Steam sale that I’m dying to play :0)/

          • anotherengineer
          • 9 years ago

          880G mobo and 955BE and 4 gigs of ram prob about $270 and your gold, upgrade the vid card later, I mean if cash is tight.

      • Welch
      • 9 years ago

      Im currently running on a TL-64 (Laptop). Im still gaming on it and getting by. So unless your still on a P4 or something, just wait it out for Bulldozer. By the time Bulldozer is released, Sandy Bridge chipset issues will be hammered out and you can choose between the two. My guess is that Bulldozer is going to mop the floor on practicality as far as bang-buck goes. If for some reason the two of them come at too premium of a price for you during that time, then pickup on the older technology like a Phenom II X6 and call it a day. By then the Phenom II’s will be even cheaper, as well as the motherboards/ect.

      Ive come up with my own rule over the years with computers…. Use the damn thing until its getting to the point of unbearable. Right now i’m able to still pull 40+ FPS in games, why buy something new if im content with the performance i’m getting?

        • sweatshopking
        • 9 years ago

        what games are you playing?

        • A_Pickle
        • 9 years ago

        [quote<]So unless your still on a P4 or something...[/quote<] My P4 gaming desktop is scornful of this comment.

      • rom0n
      • 9 years ago

      If you really are in a hurry for SB performance, I’m sure you can still find stores that sell the motherboard still (but better hurry). Then when fix comes, you can trade the motherboard in for fixed one or upgrade to a Q67.

      • mikato
      • 9 years ago

      Since you are gaming I’d recommend you go AMD to save some cash and get a great video card, 68xx or 69xx Radeon. Gaming has been generally GPU limited for a while now and will be moreso in the future. Saving some money, you can buy a new system sooner next time and perhaps keep your video card or get another for crossfire. This is the route that made sense for me.

    • sweatshopking
    • 9 years ago

    even though sandy bridge is kinda MIA, getting a chip for teh same price, that’s 50% slower, seems like a bad deal at this point.

    oh ya… first.

      • TheEmrys
      • 9 years ago

      Unless its a drop in upgrade. Particularly if you are on an AM2+ board.

      • Arclight
      • 9 years ago

      I would agree with you 100% if the Core i5 2300 and 2400 could be overclocked. But as it is right now, if your budget doesn’t allow for a 2500K then you can consider AMD as well.
      For the top tier CPUs i agree, Intel is the only option, but from Phenom II 955 down, AMD seems just better….

        • maroon1
        • 9 years ago

        Non-k models like i5 2300 & i5 2400 can be overclocked (because they have 4 processor bins above and beyond the highest turbo frequency)

        Here is quote from anandtech

        “If you have a part that does support turbo (e.g. Core i5-2400), then you have what’s called a “limited unlocked” core—in other words you can overclock a little bit. These parts are limited to an overclock of 4 processor bins above and beyond the highest turbo frequency. Confused yet? This chart may help:

        In this case we’re looking at a Core i5-2500, which runs at 3.3GHz by default. When a single core is active, the chip can turbo up to 3.7GHz. If you want, you can change that turbo state to go as high as 4.1GHz (if your CPU and cooling can keep up).

        Overclocking these limited unlocked chips relies entirely on turbo however. In the case above, the fastest your chip will run is 4.1GHz but with only one core active. If you have four cores active the fastest your chip can run is 3.8GHz. While Intel didn’t sample any limited unlocked parts, from what I’ve heard you shouldn’t have any problems hitting these multiplier limits.”

        [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/3[/url<] In other words, non-k i5 2500 can overclocked to 3.8GHz when all 4 cores are active, and up to 4.1GHz when one core is active. You can even get higher than these clock speeds if you raise the BCLK clock speed (which is very limited) And don't forget that clock for clock there is huge difference between PII and SB. You must overclock your PII to a much higher clock speed to match SB performance. And I'm pretty sure that at least 95% of consumers worldwide don't even overclock their processors.

          • Arclight
          • 9 years ago

          That’s not overclock, it’s turbo and raising the Turbo speed for only 1 core is unsatisfactory.

          Plus i don’t think a Core i5 2300 costs 135$ as the Ph II x4 955 nor does the H67 ATX mobo(do even H67 mobos support BCLK speed bumps?)cost as low as a AM3 mobo. Bottom line not everybody can afford it and although it’s faster it’s also alot more expensive when you factor in the price of the motherbord.

          I could also argue that if you intend to use 1 discrete graphics card and play games at 1080p res. then the CPU won’t be the limiter factor, the GPU being more important. Sure at lower resolutions the Core i5 2XXX are even 2 times faster but at 1080p it’s only a few frames ahead, hardly a justifiable purchase if you are on a tight budget, the extra money saved could be better spent on a faster GPU, instead of buying let’s say a GTS 450 you could afford a GTX 460 1 GB HAWK….

            • maroon1
            • 9 years ago

            “That’s not overclock, it’s turbo and raising the Turbo speed for only 1 core is unsatisfactory”

            Did you read read the anandtech link I provided in my previous post ? It says that non-k i5 and i7 have 4 processor bins above highest Turbo freq.
            i5 2500 has turbo clock of 3.4GHz (when all cores are active), but you can overclock it to 3.8GHz by raising the multiplier (thats if ALL cores are active). If one core is active, it can go to 4.1GHz (because highest turbo freq when one core is used is 3.7GHz, and you have 4 processor bins above highest Turbo freq). In other words, you are incorrect. You can overclock these non-k CPUs above the turbo freq

            • Arclight
            • 9 years ago

            “but you can overclock it to 3.8GHz by raising the multiplier (thats if ALL cores are active). If one core is active, it can go to 4.1GHz”
            [url<]http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52209&processor=i5-2500&spec-codes=SR00T[/url<] Turbo for 2500 non K is 3,7 Ghz and your saying i can OC all cores when active (which means Turbo right?) to 3,8 and 1 core to 4,1 Ghz when there is thermal headroom. Well big whoopty doo 100 Mhz OC. You really impressed me there chief. So i got to buy Core i5 2500 for that privileage or it works with cheaper models? Does it work on H67 or P67 only? All i see is a f***ing mess done by Intel.... What we all wanted was a Core i5 2200 (quad core with same spex as i5 2500 besides the clock speed) clocked at 2,6 Ghz which could be overclocked like the old i5s on affordable H67 mobos being able at the same time to use the integrated IGP. Now that's what we were looking for.Hell they could have just made a version of the CPU without the IGP, i won't use that crap anyway. PS: if i could purchase electronics at the same price they are sold in US we wouldn't be having this conversation, but things like this are just overpriced in Europe.

      • tejas84
      • 9 years ago

      I would agree. Why anyone would buy Phenom II when Bulldozer/Fixed Sandy Bridge is around the corner is beyond me.

        • dpaus
        • 9 years ago

        Because you have an order for 500 systems for a customer to be delivered next week?

          • tejas84
          • 9 years ago

          Your customers deserve better!

            • dpaus
            • 9 years ago

            Um, like what? SB-based systems are obviously out of the question, and those X6 CPUs are the best bang-for-the-buck out there – even before these price cuts.

            • tejas84
            • 9 years ago

            I’m just kidding with you buddy. I totally understand using Phenom II for the reasons you stated. Sorry for going Ricky Gervais on you!

            • dpaus
            • 9 years ago

            Don’t you have some snow to shovel??

            • tejas84
            • 9 years ago

            Lol I wish I did but I don’t live in the beautiful United States of America! (yet)

            My cousins in Philly, PA are suffering big time with disruption though. My cousins in Austin,TX are even complaining about the weather!

            How’s the snow where you are?

            • dpaus
            • 9 years ago

            Not that much here (Toronto, Canada), although the idiots on the roads make driving treacherous.

        • Hattig
        • 9 years ago

        Both are looking like April or May timeframes.

        If you need systems *now* then Phenom II X6 looks like a viable alternative given the cost.

        • Corrado
        • 9 years ago

        Because I built a complete Phenom II x2 3.3ghz unlocked to x4 @ 3.8ghz, 8gb ram, 1tb samsung drive, coolermaster case and power supply on an MSI board with a gigabyte GTX460 768mb for a grand total of….. $417 at microcenter 2 weeks ago. If I could build a COMPLETE sandy bridge system with similar specs for $417. The CPU was $89 and the motherboard was free + a $20 rebate. So for $69 I got a CPU and motherboard. And guess what? It plays all my games @ 1920×1080 with zero hiccups.

          • grantmeaname
          • 9 years ago

          That’s amazing!

          • NeelyCam
          • 9 years ago

          That’s [i<]value[/i<]. Beautiful.

          • demani
          • 9 years ago

          I really need to start keeping an eye out for Microcenter specials again…

            • zektor
            • 9 years ago

            Indeed. I purchased a Phenom II X6 1090T for $199 and a MSI 890FX (highest end chipset) for $155. Funny thing is that if you add just the board to your cart, it is $200, but add a 1090T to the cart as well and the board drops to $155 😉

            MSI also has a promo to get a $20 rebate on this very board when purchased at Microcenter at the moment, essentially dropping this high end boards price to $135.

            So, for $335 plus tax (after mail-in $20 rebate) you can have one of AMD’s best processors and one hell of a nice board.

            For those saying “wait for Bulldozer”, for what? It’ll be expensive initially anyway. Better wait for it to be tried and tested…and the price to go down 😉

            • mikato
            • 9 years ago

            I agree! Sweet deal. I just built an AMD system a couple weeks ago as well and I got the Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz for $130 on ebay and I also got the awesome ASUS 890FX mobo with 2 PCIe x16 slots for $130 on ebay! (Both came from newegg lol.) I needed value for the money I wanted to spend and AMD was superior in that regard. I may be becoming a fanboy now after being all Intel before. I saved money to get that expensive Radeon 6950. Let’s go Bulldozer!

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