Bulldozer-based Opterons rumored for September 26

Bulldozer-based Opterons will emerge on September 26 according to this report by PC Magazine. Citing a source familiar with AMD’s roadmap, PC Mag says both Valencia and Interlagos versions of the new architecture will make their debut next month. Valencia is an eight-core design that will likely be very similar to desktop versions of Bulldozer, code-named Zambezi. Interlagos is more of a beast, packing dual eight-core dies on a single package.

Valencia and Interlagos will reportedly be known as the Opteron 4200 and 6200 series, respectively. PC Mag reckons we’ll see six- and eight-core 4200-series processors and 12- and 16-core flavors of the 6200 series. The 6200-series chips should work in systems with up to four sockets, while the 4200 series will be limited to single- and dual-socket mobos.

AMD has yet to confirm when the first Bulldozer-based processors will be available, but their release is surely drawing near. It’ll be interesting to see which market gets its first taste of AMD’s new hotness. The K8 architecture that has powered the last few generations of AMD CPUs first arrived in Opterons before migrating to the desktop in Athlon garb.

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    • thefumigator
    • 8 years ago

    Socket C32 and G34… maybe G34 would be more powerful but C32 is so damn cheap, I’m thinking on dual socket with a pair of these new chips. Damn, still attractive to me using 6 core opteron deneb based.

    • ronch
    • 8 years ago

    Given all the rumors floating around Bulldozer, I’ll believe it when I see it.

    • smilingcrow
    • 8 years ago

    Breaking ‘News’.
    AMD has failed to confirm or deny speculation (I mean ‘reports’) that its next generation CPU has had its codename changed from Bulldozer to Groundhog Day.
    An AMD spokesperson ‘spoke’ off the record about this issue in a sign language last used by the Mayans circa 900 AD.
    Below is a best attempt transcript of the unofficial communication:

    Q. In what capacity do you work for AMD?
    A. I do not recognise the existence of such an organisation.

    Q. OK! Can you say something about the Bulldozer release date?
    A. From our perspective time is an artificial construct that most people cling to as a way to help fix their identity within a very limited 4 dimensional ‘reality’.

    Q. So will there be 4 core versions available at launch?
    A. In a multi dimensional universe or universes all things are possible.

    Q. Can you say a bit more about the multi level cache hierarchy?
    A. Cache is the source of all evil.

    Q. Is this a reference to Intel?
    A. We demand an offering to the Gods for such blasphemous words.

    Q. (Trying to play along). What is the significance of 2012 in your culture?
    A. If Bulldozer, I mean Groundhog Day, is delayed until 2012 it means the end of the world as we know it.

    At this point the Ayahuasca that the interpreter had imbibed in the hope of helping him to translate the sign language kicked in a few extra gears and things went steadily downhill from there. As he was forcibly removed from the room he kept repeating a mantra about the coming of the holy Trinity.

    Further news when we have it. Here’s Tom with the weather.

      • chuckula
      • 8 years ago

      That was hilarious! Whoever thumbed this down is an idiot who feels some sort of obligation to be a schill for a multibillion dollar company instead of having any sense of humor.

        • smilingcrow
        • 8 years ago

        What amuses me is that I’m not even trying to disparage AMD in particular but merely laughing at the whole Applesque nature of corporate secrecy and mainly the culture of speculation and reporting of said speculation that goes on within the IT online ‘press’.
        Am I surprised that fanboys don’t get it? No. 🙂
        Maybe if THEY imbibed Ayahuasca they might start to free their minds and actually get it.

        I might start a campaign along the lines of Free Nelson Mandela.
        Free the AMD 64 Thousand
        Free the Intel 64 Million
        Free the nVidia 64. Ha ha.

          • mutarasector
          • 8 years ago

          This Fanboy gets it. 🙂

      • mutarasector
      • 8 years ago

      Hilarious! And sooo true..

      • Zoomer
      • 8 years ago

      [quote<] Q. Can you say a bit more about the multi level cache hierarchy? A. Cache is the source of all evil. [/quote<] This is so true in the sense that it adds so much complexity.

    • NeelyCam
    • 8 years ago

    Can we please stop calling them “cores”?

      • derFunkenstein
      • 8 years ago

      no.

      • Krogoth
      • 8 years ago

      Blame the marketing people.

      Intel and other CPU guys are going to pull their own spin on what defines a “core”. It is the new MEGAHURTZ/PR system. I have seen this coming from mile, once the new tread was simply adding more and more CPU resources.

      Get used to it.

      • BobbinThreadbare
      • 8 years ago

      Why?

        • NeelyCam
        • 8 years ago

        Because they aren’t real cores.

          • MadManOriginal
          • 8 years ago

          If Intel marketted their 4c/8t CPUs as ‘8 core’ everyone would go simian feces. And yet AMD gets a pass…

          • BobbinThreadbare
          • 8 years ago

          It runs 2 threads simultaneously in hardware. Why isn’t that a real core?

          • Kef
          • 8 years ago

          Yes they are. Stop being an ass, if you don’t like the architecture, don’t buy it. But no matter how much you troll, they are have always been real cores and they will always be real cores.

            • NeelyCam
            • 8 years ago

            No. This is not trolling. They aren’t full cores in the sense the cores of the past have been full cores. There is no way around it.

            Calling them “cores” is marketing in a similarly dishonest fashion as calling Intel’s 22nm transistors “3D”

          • sweatshopking
          • 8 years ago

          they pretty much are real cores. you’ve read the breakdown on the architecture, you know as well as i do.

            • NeelyCam
            • 8 years ago

            “pretty much” is the key.

      • xeridea
      • 8 years ago

      Technically they are cores…. so why call them otherwise?

      • smilingcrow
      • 8 years ago

      Core blimey guvnor, what’s bugging you?

      Take 2.

      Core blimey guvnor, what’s TLBing you? Think about it. 🙂

      • Game_boy
      • 8 years ago

      They are still cores because when AMD copypasted the Stars core to make this they had to press Ctrl+V eight times.

      Logic.

      • raddude9
      • 8 years ago

      Is each core capable of running integer and floating point instructions at the same time as other cores? YES.
      Therefore they are real cores. Get over it intel fanboy.

      With intels “hyperthreading” you cannot run an instruction on the core and on the hyperthreaded core at the same time. Therefore it is not a real core.

    • chuckula
    • 8 years ago

    I’m still confused. When the original “delay” to the Bulldozer release occurred, AMD said that it wasn’t really a delay at all. Instead they said that they had just shifted the server shipments of Interlagos ahead of the desktop shipments of Zambezi.

    So, if AMD was being truthful, then the September 19 date for desktop Bulldozer that’s been floating around can’t be right. I have a feeling that if anything does happen on September 19, it’ll be a paper launch and you won’t be getting a CPU from Newegg until October.

      • Vulk
      • 8 years ago

      Yes the rumored release date is almost certainly not correct. Since they’ve never officially given a release date, the product can’t be DELAYED, because well it’s still H2 of 2011, which as far as I know is all they’ve commited to. It’s the press that are trying to find firm dates, floating those as actual dates, and then making people say that one product is late, or the other is early…

      I wish AMD would change that and actually give something more concrete… But that will happen when the winged poo flinging simians emerge from my butt, or they have already shipped products and feel that the consumer launch is about to happen, much like with Llano.

        • Game_boy
        • 8 years ago

        No, they did say Q2 2011 for desktops, Q3 2011 for servers. It’s in the Analyst Day presentations and John Fruehe’s posts.

        • sschaem
        • 8 years ago

        When AMD claim to release something in H2.. they mean
        “We are going to start initial production december 31st, maybe… with mass availability in march of the following year.. maybe”

        AMD could give more concrete dates if they knew themselves, but at this time they have no clue when the chip will be ready.

        In a recent (this week) demo of Opteron , the system was a ‘hands off’ with no benchmark allowed or showed.
        From all that we know AMD is still trying to debug the new architecture (mainly thermal) and is having massive problems and needs to hide this fact at all cost.

        AMD interim CEO even reduced the new opteron performance to 35% from an earlier claim of 50%.. ouch!

        And 35% might even be optimistic, since they might have to throttle the chip from thermal issues.
        From what we know, things are not looking good for AMD. Dirk knew this and took his 12 million $ golden parachute and bailed.

        My guess is that AMD is having big internal problem, possibly lost a big chunk of their CPU architects and cant fix the chip any faster.

      • maxxcool
      • 8 years ago

      I suspect Yield issues are forcing them to cannibalize the consumer wafers so they can get the *LONG* awaited drop in upgrades to contract holders of the g34 and c32 socket based servers. once the yield issue and 1st revision hits *then* we will see real production volume.

      status quot for a new architecture …

      • Vasilyfav
      • 8 years ago

      And then they’ll have some sort of defect like a TLB bug and we won’t actually get full performance Bulldozers until 2012.

      AMD needs to get their shit together and either give realistic release dates or stop hyping their shit up like it’s going to beat sandy bridge by 100%.

    • willmore
    • 8 years ago

    We need a tag for articles that actually have real benchmark results for real released products.

      • grantmeaname
      • 8 years ago

      It says “rumored” in the title. Don’t like it? Don’t read it.

        • willmore
        • 8 years ago

        It also says “Report” in the name of the web site, not “Rumor”. What’s your point?

          • Joe Miller
          • 8 years ago

          The site reports a rumor.

          • Meadows
          • 8 years ago

          Do you never read past the site’s name?

            • willmore
            • 8 years ago

            When it’s a meaningful report, I read the whole thing. When it’s a relayed and unconfirmed rumor, why should I?

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