Thursday Shortbread

Eight is Enough

  1. X-bit labs: AMD aims to improve Bulldozer performance-per-Watt by up to 50% by 2014
  2. SLI multi-GPU technology on AMD platforms – Hi

    Tech Legion’s interview with Nvidia’s Tom Petersen

  3. Ars Technica: Sony suffers another attack on PSN, 93,000 accounts temporarily compromised
  4. First Asus ultrabook to market: Meet the Zenbook at Ars Technica
  5. AnandTech has AMD FX-8150 tested
  6. Fudzilla reports X79 chipset ships in November
  7. TC Magazine: Asus Eee Pad Transformer 2 tablet listed, coming on November 7th?
  8. BioWare unveils Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system featuring series debut of multiplayer


  1. Bloomberg: hp gains PC market share after considering spinoff

    and Google said not to plan acquisition of Akamai

  2. Ars Technica: RSA details March cyberattack, blames “nation state” for SecurID breach
  3. X-bit labs: Memory module and chip prices flatten in October – observers
  4. t-break’s Seagate interview
  5. TC Magazine: Asus ROG CG8565 gaming desktop closes in, gets listed

    and Seagate debuts the GoFlex Cinema multimedia hard drive and

    Palit unveils the GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Light Turbo custom graphics card

    and Acer officially intros its S0 Slim LED series monitors

  6. Reuters: Sony TV unit suffers fresh blow with faulty sets
  7. Win an AMD FX-8150 and more from
  8. Dealzon’s deals: $187 coupon for 17.3” hp dv7t i7-2630QM, $173 coupon for 15.6”

    hp dv6t i7-2630QM, $102 coupon for 15.6” hp G6s i3-2330M, $250 coupon for

    14.5″ hp Envy 14 i5-2410M, $112 coupon for 14” hp dm4t Core i3-2330M, and

    $90 coupon for 14” hp dv4t Pentium B950


  1. Bloomberg reports Apple wins ban on Samsung tablet in Australia
  2. ocaholic reviews Asus Eee Pad Transformer TF 101
  3. InfoWorld: Google and Samsung may have delayed new Nexus release over patent fears
  4. Bloomberg: Sprint to reveal iPhone cost to fix ‘mistake,’ chairman says
  5. Ars Technica: Sprint won’t sell iPhone 4S with unlocked micro-SIM card slot
  6. WPCentral: 30% of Windows Phones now on Mango
  7. PCWorld: Microsoft and Nokia push Windows Phone porting tool
  8. AnandTech reports AirPort Utility for iOS launches
  9. Ars Technica reviews Apple iOS 5
  10. TechReviewSource on Amazon Kindle (2011)

Software and gaming

  1. Wired: Microsoft embraces elephant of open source
  2. Ars Technica: Skype’s future under Microsoft: integration everywhere?
  3. Ars Technica: JavaScript has problems. Do we need Dart to solve them?
  4. Phoronix on Intel AES-NI for full disk encryption
  5. VR-Zone’s Parallels Desktop 7 for Mac review
  6. MacRumors: Apple releases iPhoto 9.2
  7. Fudzilla reports 320GB drive (for Xbox 360) coming this month
  8. Massively: Warhammer 40K Dark Millenium Online launch date revealed
  9. Ars Technica: MDK2 gets $15 HD re-release on PC, looks and plays great and

    Aliens: Infestation is the Metroid-style, 2D Aliens game we’ve always wanted

  10. IncGamers: 2000 Diablo III beta keys sweepstakes

Systems and storage

  1. Björn3D, HT4U, Legion Hardware, Madshrimps, OC3D,

    Vortez, and X-bit labs review AMD FX-8150 CPU

  2. Hardware Secrets pits AMD FX-8150 vs. Core i5-2500K & Core i7-2600K
  3. TweakTown’s AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer gaming performance analysis
  4. hardCOREware reviews 120GB AData S511 SSD
  5. Big Bruin reviews Synology DiskStation DS411 4-bay NAS server

Multimedia, cases, and cooling

  1. HardwareLook’s Hauppauge HD PVR gaming editing review
  2. reviews Mad Catz Cyborg Glide 7 gaming surface
  3. VR-Zone’s Antec Solo II case review
  4. techPowerUp! reviews Lian Li PC-V600F case
  5. TechReaction reviews Gelid Icy Vision rev. 2 GPU cooler
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    • sschaem
    • 8 years ago

    I wish TR would do some ‘undervolting’ test like this.

    [url<][/url<] "Here is the interesting comparison of Phenom II 1100T and FX-8150, when we consider the highest P-State (hereinafter referred to as Pmax). Here, the clock 800 MHz for the Phenom II X6 1100T is at 1.225 volts. The FX-8150, however, it brings to 1400 MHz - but only 0.875 volts." In short: Bulldozer fall of the curve because of the high voltage required by GF 32nm at high clock rates. right now at stock, the 1100T and FX-8150 have pretty much the same cinebench score, but the 1100T is more power efficient. But at lower voltage bulldozer absolutely steamroll the 1100T. 13% lower peak watt consumption, yet is 61% faster . The fact that the architecture can clock to 8ghz, and is very energy inefficient at low voltage hint that AMD does have a window of opportunity...

      • sschaem
      • 8 years ago

      I dont have a chip… but from this undervolting experiment.

      30 watt consumption for peak operation at 1.4ghz
      133 watt consumption for peak operation at 3.6ghz

      The efficiency fall off a cliff all directly related to the 1.36V used at 3.6ghz

    • dpaus
    • 8 years ago

    Knew this already, I did:


    • PeterD
    • 8 years ago

    Another one of the big ones is gone:

    Unix creator Dennis Ritchie dies aged 70

    [url<][/url<] Paying tribute on his blog, Google programmer Tim Bray said it was impossible to overstate the debt his profession owed to Dennis Ritchie. "I've been living in a world he helped invent for over thirty years," he wrote. On Twitter, developer James Grimmelman said: "Ritchie's influence rivals Jobs's; it's just less visible."

      • Flatland_Spider
      • 8 years ago

      That was the first thing I saw this morning. It’s really sad. I would power down my Linux boxes, but I need them running.

      • UberGerbil
      • 8 years ago

      [quote<]"Ritchie's influence rivals Jobs's; it's just less visible."[/quote<] QFT

    • BiffStroganoffsky
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]Reuters: Sony TV unit suffers fresh blow with faulty sets[/quote<] I guess they weren't satisfied with just their laptops smoking and flaming. It would have been nice to know what models were 'smoking' or could it be the entire Bravia line?!?

    • Arclight
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]X-bit labs: AMD aims to improve Bulldozer performance-per-Watt by up to 50% by 2014[/quote<] I also have dreams of becoming a billionaire by 2014. [spoiler<]sorry i had to vent[/spoiler<]

      • OneArmedScissor
      • 8 years ago

      That sounds unbelievably low, not high. Intel will see two shrinks and an entirely new architecture in that time. Even AMD ought to be using something like FinFETs by then. Hopefully they’re just trying to be more realistic and not set people up for disappointment…

      • khands
      • 8 years ago

      Shouldn’t they be at 20nm by that point, if not smaller? I should hope ppw would increase massively by then, like, at least 150%.

        • sschaem
        • 8 years ago

        I think its miss communication. what I hope they wanted to say is, they have a 10-15% goal at the architecture level to improve efficiency for a given manufacturing process.
        Bulldozer right now could have zero changes made to its architecture but get a 30% increase in performance per what from reducing the voltage during non idle time. AMD is overvolting their CPU because the 32nm process is not following their expectation.

    • xiaomimm
    • 8 years ago
    • JLW777
    • 8 years ago

    Ars Technica: Sony suffers another attack on PSN, 93,000 accounts temporarily compromised

    If my email gets hacked and credit card compromised AGAIN. I’m going cancel my psn account and never endose ANY Sony products in this life time… Now y did I register for PSN in the first place? I fail

      • Jigar
      • 8 years ago

      They were attacked 14 times previously, you people are way more forgiving.

      EDIT: BTW Look at this [url<][/url<]

      • provoko
      • 8 years ago

      Do it now. If the RIAA, Sony dispatching police taskforce to arrest modder, audio cd rootkits, and all the other PSN hacks weren’t enough to get you to leave Sony… I doubt this one will. But I’ll encourage you anyways, DO IT NOW. =)

        • OneArmedScissor
        • 8 years ago

        Don’t forget the exploding battery trick, and now, a new comer – the astounding melting Bravia!


          • Palek
          • 8 years ago

          While I’m no fan of Sony I must say that at least they’re handling this problem better than Samsung did the [url=<]bulging capacitor fiasco with their TVs[/url<]. Quote from Engadget: [quote<]Sony's service representative will promptly visit and evaluate the television, and repair it at no charge if an affected component is found.[/quote<] As far as I know Sammy owners were not treated anywhere near as well.

    • NeelyCam
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]X-bit labs: AMD aims to improve Bulldozer performance-per-Watt by up to 50% by 2014[/quote<] "by [b<]up to[/b<] 50%"? Um.... they kinda have to increase it by 100% [i<]right now[/i<] to be where Sandy Bridge is.. and I sorta think that there is a chance Intel might have some new-and-improved stuff out in the next three years.. My god, seriously, did I just fall down the rabbit hole?

      • Geistbar
      • 8 years ago

      “Up to” values are nearly always worthless anyway; a handful of specific situations will get n% better, everything else will be n/5% or n/10% better.

      I didn’t bother to determine a rough idea of Bulldozer’s performance / Watt, but I think an outright 50% performance increase in 3 years might be enough to save it. Though that would also need a fairly decent power consumption reduction, so it’d need far more than a 50% performance / watt increase.

      The real issue for AMD is that Intel should already be on Haswell by that time. If it is even half the improvement over Ivy Bridge that Sandy Bridge was over Nehalem…

        • indeego
        • 8 years ago

        [quote<]but I think an outright 50% performance increase in 3 years might be enough to save it.[/quote<] Intel will have already moved on. Nobody will care about Bulldozer performance improvements. The general consensus in most techs' mind is it's a "meh" processor and +1 to a "meh" is "meh+1" Hate to say it but people won't jump ship to this processor in any significant way, in any significant market.

          • OneArmedScissor
          • 8 years ago

          Trinity doesn’t have to suck so hard. If the yields really are better for it than Llano, all they really needed to do in its case is fix the ridiculous prioritization of the GPU, and it will stomp Llano and put up a fair fight against Intel, at least for a little bit.

          There’s no reason to judge what the core is capable of in every other context by its misuse in just one.

      • sweatshopking
      • 8 years ago

      BY 2014?????????????????????????????

      • ModernPrimitive
      • 8 years ago

      As I was wandering around the forums last night I noticed even some hardcore AMD fans were very let down and seemed to have lost their denial cloak. It is sad. I was hoping the BD was the new Athlon FX to the P4

      • Metonymy
      • 8 years ago

      You folks all focused on the “up to 50%” part.. i like the “aims” aspect.

        • NeelyCam
        • 8 years ago

        Yeah… this is really bad. Worse than I thought when I saw BD results.

        [i<]Aiming[/i<] for +50% in three years is woefully inadequate. This implies that BD problems are not first-time bugs that can be quickly fixed in subsequent versions... it implies that the whole architecture is unable to compete, period. It's Netburst all over again... AMD needs some serious course correction, just like Intel did.

      • Ringofett
      • 8 years ago

      You didn’t fall down a rabbit hole, someone, or some people, at AMD seems to have. I read that and thought, wait, isn’t that THREE years? Doesn’t Intel run on a tick-tock cadence?

      Once I double checked myself to make sure I hadn’t lost my mind, one unescapable conclusion was left: AMD in its current form is finished. It’s a matter of time, but the writing is on the wall.

      That said, I dont know why people fear AMD bankruptcy so much. It’ll be a great thing; someone with deep pockets will come along, pick it up for pennies on the dollar, and bankroll it for a while on the idea that they can manage it effectively enough to compete with Intel. The ineffective management, lazy shareholders and other slackers will be eradicated. Fresh start. Bankruptcy gets a bad rap, but its an essential part of capitalism.

        • UberGerbil
        • 8 years ago

        Yes, contrary to what’s often supposed, bankruptcy for company can mean new life, not death.

        But here’s the problem with that idea: what we know about the patent licensing agreements between Intel and AMD includes the fact that they may be terminated by either party upon a “material breach” by the other — and material breach [i<]numero uno[/i<] is a petition or adjudication of bankruptcy or insolvency. (Another material breach is being acquired.) So yeah, AMD could do that, get out from under some of its debt (though that's much less onerous now that they've spun off GloFlo) and shake up its management. And then it would have to renegotiate from scratch with Intel for what's commonly called the "x86" license. That's probably possible -- AMD still has its own portfolio, including patents associated with x64 -- but who knows how long it would take, how much it would cost, or what terms they'd have to agree to?

          • Ushio01
          • 8 years ago

          (Another material breach is being acquired.)

          I thought this was no longer an issue after AMD agreed to drop the antitrust lawsuit against Intel?

            • UberGerbil
            • 8 years ago

            Actually, if you read the [url=<]settlement[/url<], they just agreed to drop existing disputes and to enter what's called the New Patent Cross License -- which AFAIK is not public ([url=<]beyond[/url<] it being for 5 years and royalty-free for both sides) and may contain similar provisions. Moreover, that settlement [i<]itself[/i<] is subject to restrictions regarding changes in ownership and other such material changes, so a renegotiation might be necessary should AMD go through Chapter 13 (or be taken private, or bought out, or whatever).

      • sschaem
      • 8 years ago

      fx-8150 task energy is 14.3 for Cinebench VS 8.5 for the i7-2600k, from TR review.

      A 50% increase in performance-per-Watt would make the 2014 AMd cpu deliver a 9.5 task energy rating. 15% lower then the i7-2600k

      So in 4 years AMD processor will just start to come close to Intel 32nm SandyBridge processors in performance per what.

      Yes… this sound totally nuts. What is AMD thinking when they disclose info that spell out their bankruptcy ?!

      “we remain optimistic that by 2014 will be start to approach, but not reach, the efficiency of Intel SandyBridge architecture”

      Stating a 10-15% increase every 12 month, according to AMD, we wont start to see CPU that match SandyBridge 32nm efficiency until 2015 !

      Yes, we are deep into the rabbit hole… One day AMD leaks slides showing bulldozer being 50% faster then SandyBridge, next you hear them say that bulldozer wont compete with SandyBridge untill 2015. u.n.b.e.l.i.e.v.a.b.l.e

    • CuttinHobo
    • 8 years ago

    MDK 2 re-release? Nice. But no MDK 1?

    I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for those classic Shiny games. Sacrifice is definitely one of my all-time favorites. (And is a well-spent $6 at 😀 )

    • canmnanone
    • 8 years ago


    • canmnanone
    • 8 years ago

    hehehehe im drunk with double post…

      • NeelyCam
      • 8 years ago

      Good job with the midweek debauchery.

      (… do you/did you work for AMD, by any chance..?)

        • dashbarron
        • 8 years ago

        I like this NeelyCam.

        • Voldenuit
        • 8 years ago

        It’s not a double post, it’s a dual-core, single-module post!

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