Tuesday Shortbread

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  1. Newegg obtains complete defense jury verdict, and rare patent

    invalidation, in infringement lawsuit brought by Alcatel-Lucent

  2. Computerworld reports Intel CEO faults recent evolution of PCs
  3. VR-Zone’s Asus ZenBook UX31 review
  4. VR-Zone: Ivy Bridge to have 77W max TDP, backwards and forwards compatibility explained

    and why the initial desktop Sandy Bridge-E chips have only six (of eight) cores enabled?

  5. The SSD Review: OCZ releases SSD firmware to fix SandForce SF-2281 BSOD and stuttering
  6. Battlefield Blog: Battlefield 3 Open Beta wrapup
  7. DICE: Despite Beta concerns it’s “mission acomplished” – IGN


  1. Reuters reports IBM’s Q3 disappoints, stock drops and

    HTC says confident in suit vs. Apple after early court loss

  2. Computerworld: Sun was close to licensing Java patents to Google for $28M
  3. Ars Technica: Stunning “ISAM” live tour combines 3D sets, CG visuals, and crazy math
  4. TC Magazine reports ViewSonic releases the V3D231 3D monitor
  5. Engadget: Logitech M525 wireless mouse lasts three years on a single pair of batteries
  6. InfoWorld: NEC says new technology doubles lithium battery life
  7. New Microsoft holiday ad campaign: We are family – All About Microsoft
  8. HotHardware’s podcast
  9. Dealzon’s deals: $187 coupon for 17.3” hp dv7t i7-2670QM, $166 coupon for 15.6”

    hp dv6t i7-2670QM / 8GB RAM, $170 coupon for 15.6” Lenovo V570 i7-2630QM /

    6GB RAM, and $213 off 120GB Kingston HyperX 2.5″ SSD


  1. Hardware Heaven’s Asus Slider Android tablet (SL101) review
  2. Droid Life: Droid Razr revealed early from teaser site
  3. Fudzilla reports Motorola Atrix 2 hits AT&T
  4. TechReviews: Apple iPhone 4S Siri demo
  5. All About Microsoft: Windows Phone Mango users reporting disappearing keyboards
  6. Engadget’s HTC Titan review
  7. Tbreak on webOS
  8. Engadget reports Galaxy Player 4.0 and 5.0 land

    on shelves, deliver Gingerbread without the phone


  1. All About Microsoft: MS delivers Windows Intune 2.0 cloud-management service
  2. How-To Geek: How to install or enable Hyper-V virtualization in Windows 8
  3. Tech Drive-in’s Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot review

Systems and storage

  1. Hardware Canucks review Alienware M14x gaming notebook
  2. ocaholic reviews hp Elite Book 8760w
  3. Phoronix on Core i7-2630QM
  4. Legit Reviews on Gigabyte GA-A75-UD4H
  5. Hardare Heaven reviews Gigabyte GA-A55-DSP3
  6. Hi Tech Legion on 8GB Patriot G2 AMD Black Edition DDR3-1600 memory kit
  7. TweakTown reviews 120GB Silicon Power Velox Series V30 SSD

Multimedia, power, case & cooling

  1. OCC and TWL review Sapphire HD 6870 DiRT 3 Special Edition
  2. Madshrimps review MSI R6870 Hawk
  3. X-bit labs on Flight Simulator joystick: Everything you wanted to know
  4. techPowerUp! reviews 1500W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU
  5. PCPer’s Corsair HX1050 Professional Series PSU review
  6. Benchmark Reviews on Raidmax Blade case
  7. Hardware Secrets reviews Xigmatek Loki CPU cooler
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    • FuturePastNow
    • 8 years ago

    I think Intel has been overstating the TDP of its mainstream desktop processors for years now. The first-generation Core 2 Duo chips used well under their stated 65W and it’s been downhill since then. They’re just making it official now.

      • OneArmedScissor
      • 8 years ago

      TDP is always “overstated” compared to power use. That’s the point. If they didn’t do that, OEMs would have customers calling them left and right about their melted computer. Some of them have that problem, anyways.

      It just seems to be more overstated over time because there are more and more parts of the chip, with fewer of them being active concurrently. It’s very difficult to actually push them all 100% at once. For example, even with multiple stress test programs, how do you load down both the 16 lanes in the PCIe controller and integrated GPU at the same time?

      Power use isn’t really improving much. You need to look at laptops for that, as desktops are all over the place.

    • no51
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]Among their defense arguments, Newegg and Overstock asserted that Alcatel's `131 patent, relating to text boxes, drop down menus and similar functionalities, was invalid and should have never been issued by the U.S. Patent Office because it was not original due to prior inventions. The jury found this argument convincing and invalidated Alcatel's `131 patent as anticipated and obvious.[/quote<] Told Hard with a Vengeance.

    • Firestarter
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]OCZ Releases SSD Firmware To Fix SandForce SF-2281 Blue Screen Of Death[/quote<] I wonder how this one will pan out...

      • TravelMug
      • 8 years ago

      Me too. From the OCZ press release:

      ” OCZ has been testing the fix in-house for the past three weeks and now believes it is fit for public release. ”

      The first comment to the Anandtech news article about this firmware update and that quote above summs up nicely what I’m thinking as well:

      “OCZ believes a lot of things are fit for public release that I would never buy.”

    • Arclight
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]Intel CEO Paul Otellini came to the defense of PCs at an industry conference Friday, while outlining his belief that new devices known as ultrabooks will do more to meet consumer and business needs[/quote<] Preach brother, preach! [quote<]....But Otellini also said that "to some extent, the evolution of the PC has been retarded, I think, in the last few years."[/quote<] Oh snap, he confirmed they have been holding back due to lack of competition... And then he goes on talking about laptops....really? I mean is that where the CPU prowess should have manifested itself? What has become of the desktop that none of the big guys ever talk about it? They seem to have aquired an insatiable apetite for anything that is mobile...they think it's "hip" now, as if that's the only thing people want....We need a poll, which version of the PC does the TR community prefer? Desktop, laptop, tablets? LE: [quote<]VR-Zone: Ivy Bridge to have 77W max TDP[/quote<] Wow, top of the line Ivy Bridge will have only 77W? And that will sport a GPU as well? Talk about creaming the competition..... For comparison between SB and BD power consumption read the following article [url<]http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/zardon/power-consumption-fx-8150-v-i5-2500k-v-i7-2600k/[/url<] Now imagine IB with 77W trown in there....i know....

      • Meadows
      • 8 years ago

      Didn’t we have a poll like that once?

      [quote<]Oh snap, he confirmed they have been holding back due to lack of competition...[/quote<] He said no such thing. Like you noted, mobile computers are getting extreme amounts of attention and development, and there's nobody left to *care* about the PC [u<]or[/u<] the "standard" Mac. People like Lucid or Bigfoot Networks are the weak exception to the above statement.

        • Arclight
        • 8 years ago

        Well atleast we still get some love

        [url<]http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/08/geforce-lan-is-back-on-an-aircraft-carrier/[/url<] Take that laptops / tablets!

      • sweatshopking
      • 8 years ago

      Laptops have been outselling desktops now for years, around the world. it’s not news that he’d talk about the bigger market.

        • Arclight
        • 8 years ago

        I don’t have any numbers, i don’t know where you got yours.

        Idk maybe i’m wrong and i’m just not seeing the hand writing on the wall, but i just can’t understand this shift – pay more for less.

          • dpaus
          • 8 years ago

          [quote<]i just can't understand this shift - pay more for less[/quote<] If we lose AMD as a viable x86 competitor, you should get used to paying more for less...

          • Firestarter
          • 8 years ago

          It’s been a fact for several years now. The shift has everything to do with the PC becoming a commodity. Just now I got asked to diagnose someones random PC problem, the conclusion was that she should just bring it back to the B&M store where she got it and get it replaced, like it was a toaster. And it IS like a toaster, only a toaster on which many people depend even when they don’t realize it.

          • sweatshopking
          • 8 years ago

          [url<]http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/04/laptops-outsell-desktops-for-the-first-time-again/[/url<] there's an article from 2005. the writing is one the wall.

      • burntham77
      • 8 years ago

      This screams troll.

        • Arclight
        • 8 years ago


      • flip-mode
      • 8 years ago

      Quit looking at the trees and take a look at the forest. Otellini didn’t say anything about the “evolution of the CPU”. He’s talking about the “evolution of the PC”. Healthy competition between AMD and Intel isn’t necessarily going to translate into anything regarding the evolution of the PC.

      I have a bone to pick with the fact that everyone excludes Apple’s devices from the term “personal computer”. If you account for Apple, there’s been plenty of evolution of the personal computer. The phone is now a personal computer that does pretty well at everything beside composing a document. The tablet is a personal computer too.

      Desktops and laptops haven’t evolved any because there’s no higher point for them to evolve to. No matter what you do a desktop is still a computer that sits on or beside your desk and a laptop is still a computer with an integrated keyboard and monitor and pointing device in a self contained package that has to be somewhere in the realm of 1″ thick, 15″ wide, and 12″ deep – or less. So just what kind of evolution is expected for the desktop or the laptop? None. The tablet and the phone are the evolution of these. Perhaps the television and other appliances are next.

      But I think the ultimate evolution of the personal is a phone that has all the computer capability that you need and if you need more functionality (like a full size display and keyboard) you just plug the phone into a dock. That’s the ultimate evolutionary form of the PC. Then we can all throw away our desktops and laptops.

        • Arclight
        • 8 years ago

        [quote<]Desktops and laptops haven't evolved any because there's no higher point for them to evolve to. No matter what you do a desktop is still a computer that sits on or beside your desk and a laptop is still a computer with an integrated keyboard and monitor and pointing device in a self contained package that has to be somewhere in the realm of 1" thick, 15" wide, and 12" deep - or less. So just what kind of evolution is expected for the desktop or the laptop? None. The tablet and the phone are the evolution of these. Perhaps the television and other appliances are next. [/quote<] I would agree only IF the drive or the unit used to measure PC evolution would be mobility instead of performance. If I don't need mobility but i need performance my view of evolution will never be tied to form factor, rather it can have any form as long as i can afford the price. By your standard, form and function is above performance so you would take the smallest form as long as it is functional and you can afford the price. That being said i can only agree to disagree.

          • OneArmedScissor
          • 8 years ago

          You seem to have this belief that computer “performance” has stagnated because there’s not enough “competition” in CPUs to drive some sort of explosive increase in power.

          Except there has been. You can put 80 CPU cores and several hundred MB of cache into one server motherboard, right now. This is a direct result of AMD and Intel being at each other’s throats for years.

          There is a point of diminishing returns for less demanding things. It was hit years ago for desktops, and has now been exceeded. Look at what happens when you put Bulldozer, a more conservative chip than something like Westmere EX, into a desktop. Just a few more cores and MB of cache slows it down, instead of speeding it up.

          It’s over. Sorry, but that’s reality. See: Ivy Bridge’s TDP just dropping because they are quite literally out of useful ideas for what to do with that extra headroom, Trinity being more appropriate for a desktop than Bulldozer, Bobcat and Haswell moving to a system on a chip, etc.

          Graphics cards still improve considerably, so I don’t understand what the emphasis on CPUs is. But again, eventually, enough is enough, and you’re just overcomplicating and bogging things down. If your monitor is going to stay 1920×1200, then how will you ever need a GTX 880?

            • Arclight
            • 8 years ago

            You’re taking what i said to the extreme and it’s far too early to call quits on CPU, although i agree that GPUs seem to evolve, for the time being, in a more “dramatic” way, for the lack of a better term. But since you took the discussion there, i’ll try to continue it.

            I understand that they will someday reach a wall and by then all improvements from one generation to another will bring only minimal benefits, but we are not there yet.

            @CPUs, even when we reach that “wall” there is the “issue” of cost. They might come up tomorrow with the “ultimate” CPU but if it costs $5000 how many can afford it? I sure can’t.

            On the other side there are the mobile devices which will always be behind in performance since they will always be constrained by maxim power consumption and heat, not being able to dissipate as much heat as a desktop.

            The “ultimate” CPU or GPU for that matter, will be sold at an affordable price on the desktop long before that level of performance will reach mobile devices.

            A third party in this dance is software which always wants more resources…as programs can do more and more i don’t see them reaching a point where they won’t need extra horse power. It only depends if you need that aplication or not. Anyways i feel like i have been chasing my own tail in this discussion, i’ll stop here.

          • flip-mode
          • 8 years ago

          Right, uh, anyway, back to the topic of what Otellini was talking about: the “evolution of the PC” and [i<]not[/i<] the evolution of the CPU.

    • mesyn191
    • 8 years ago

    “NEC says new technology doubles lithium battery life

    The company has no concrete plans on when it will commercialize the technology, a spokesman said.”

    Translation: “works in a lab but we still have to find a way to mass produce it in a vaguely cost effective manner that even commercial big spenders can afford. We have no clue when or how we’ll manage to do this. Buy our stocks. Thx.”

      • JustAnEngineer
      • 8 years ago

      Research time vs. reality:
      “5 years away” = 10 to 20 years later
      “10 years away” = 20 to 40 years later
      “25+ years away” = never

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