Etc.

So, Battlefield 3 is pretty amazing, no? I’d say it pretty much ends any shot Rage had at holding the title of "best-looking PC game," although Rage has its own issues with texture detail that sully its excellent artwork and bursting-with-detail environments.

I’ll admit to enjoying the single-player campaigns in games like BF3, and this one so far seems to be pretty engaging. My attempt to take a quick look at the game’s graphics melted into several hours of intense gameplay last night. Of course, the single-player graphics are jaw-dropping and look like a true next-generation PC game—at last. The multiplayer beta just didn’t show us everything that was possible with this game engine, we can now say for sure. At least, that’s my take.

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    • focusedthirdeye
    • 8 years ago

    6970 x2 (crossfire), 3.5 i7, 1600 MHz 12 gb

    I am not getting 60 FPS on High default on 1920…..so i dont want to play it on high

    I am talking about multiplayer here so i have preferred medium default. My internet connection sucks and i’m using wireless….it seems to be okay though and i dont think it has to do with the F.P.S. (frames per second)

    I know it would look really really good on ultra….at 60 frames per second. but i do not want to play anything unless it is at 60 FPS. It may look better than bad company 2 on medium, but i am not sure. I am however sure that i love bad company 2. (hardcore mode only!)

    -Doug Rochford

    • dashbarron
    • 8 years ago

    The game has amazing graphics, yes! The gameplay is fun and its brings back good memories of 1942. I’m not a FPS fan but this has brought me back into the franchise.

    I haven’t even touched multiplayer yet (besides the beta). Just campaign/co-op campaigns.

    • SomeOtherGeek
    • 8 years ago

    Forget BF3, what about LOTR: War in the North?

    • Suspenders
    • 8 years ago

    Pfft….”next-generation” PC game, now on xbox!

      • torquer
      • 8 years ago

      The console versions are dumbed down versions of the PC game, unlike the reverse which is true of the vast majority of new titles. Devs have said that the Xbox and PS3 versions are graphically equivalent to the PC version on “low” graphics settings. It also limits the number of players on multiplayer maps as well.

      So, I think the point you were trying to make is likely very true of MW3 or other “start with console, end with PC” titles, but in this case they were very specific that this title was designed for the PC first.

        • Bensam123
        • 8 years ago

        They said it was, that doesn’t mean it is. Consolization is more then just graphics.

        Would you say BF3 is more like CoD then BF2 or even BC2?

          • sydbot
          • 8 years ago

          I can’t wait til the next gen consoles come out so developers can get out of the low memory mode. 4+ GB for all!

            • Bensam123
            • 8 years ago

            When computers are going on 32GB upper memory limits… I somehow think it’ll be the same crap in a different color.

          • torquer
          • 8 years ago

          Honestly haven’t played BF3 enough yet to say, but the graphics are superior by far, at least in my view

            • Bensam123
            • 8 years ago

            Aye… I was talking about more then just graphics.

            • torquer
            • 8 years ago

            I loved all of the Call of Duty titles, especially Modern Warfare 1 and 2 single player campaigns. I wasn’t such a fan of the multiplayer though – to me it seemed rather 1 dimensional. MW2 had the best single player campaign I’ve played in a long time, even compared to BC2. I haven’t played BF3 single player but the multiplayer is an absolute blast. I’ll be picking up MW3 as well but I doubt I’ll do much multiplayer on it.

            • Bensam123
            • 8 years ago

            Yup…

          • Suspenders
          • 8 years ago

          Yeah, I just don’t believe them (DICE) all that much. Even if what they’re saying is true, it would still probably be a better game if they were making the game for next gen consoles instead of current gen ones.

      • theonespork
      • 8 years ago

      I can only assume you are trolling?

        • Suspenders
        • 8 years ago

        Not at all. I was making (in an admidtedly obnoxious way) the point that I don’t believe we’re actually going to get true “next gen” pc games until the next round of updated consoles are released. The games need to be made with the consoles in mind, and that’s always going to be a limiting factor one way or another, even if studios do make a point of utilizing the PC better.

    • torquer
    • 8 years ago

    I agree with Scott. I’ve been an avid gamer since back in the wolf3d.exe days, and I pay particular attention to graphic detail. YES that means I attribute graphical quality to my overall enjoyment of the game. NO I am not trying to convince you to think the same way.

    But I have to say the game looks gorgeous, and thats per my own personal and very subjective opinion. Very realistic, runs pretty well on my hardware which is high-midrange, and is a blast to play despite some minor issues.

    For those who are a fan of the series I think you’ll like it, but I’m not sure I’d enjoy it quite as much if I couldn’t run it fluidly on Ultra, but thats my personal preference.

      • turkeysam
      • 8 years ago

      I’ve been gaming since 1982! The best contemprary release is still Starcraft 2 imo, but Q4 2011 has been a good period for the PC.

      Despite the poor reviews and graphical issues on the PC platform, I’m really enjoying RAGE . Nice mix of traditional fps shooter with some light rpg grinding. I had great fun with the BF3 beta; retail copy ordered. Still playing Deus Ex HR; wonderful to see a neglected genre competently resurected (would also love to see a System Shock reboot!). Delighted with the favourable reaction to Batman AC, looking forward to that 🙂 Will wait to see reactions on Skyrim.

      One thing I’ve noticed lately is that the quality of game reviewing is lacking balance atm. Too many mediocre titles are getting golden recommendations (especially on the consoles). On the flipside, some reviewers are absolutely stoning titles without any measured justification. Ars technica’s latest game reviews read like a serious case of teenage internet-rage.

    • Bensam123
    • 8 years ago

    Cyril made a ‘news release’ of something similar.

    Apparently BF3 uses almost no tesselation, if any. It states in some places that it uses some on the characters and in others that it doesn’t use any at all.

    That aside, I’m really telling you guys, go try out Living Legends for Crysis (which is a mod) and/or Hard Reset. BF3 honestly doesn’t look that amazing.

    • kamikaziechameleon
    • 8 years ago

    I did find the SP to be the best one that dice has made but the story itself is kinda an amalgamation of goofy narrative cliche’s that had already been explored first in the COD series. The principle story telling short fall of BF3 was the lack of interesting characters. There is never any decent dialogue to capture personality and no visual cues to appearance or composure that make anyone stand out from the character next to them. The lack of character kind robs the story of any punch regardless of how clever or good it is. Games like arkham asylum showed how good narrative can bolster a boring story to make it feel like there is so much more happening than is actually transpiring.

    As for the MP, I do have many apparent gripes with squad functionality and matchmaking with friends and parties. Those issues aside its rock solid.

      • JohnC
      • 8 years ago

      Eh, they could’ve done a better-written characters and the overall story but I highly doubt it would have had a significant impact on the overall sales, considering it’s a heavily MP-oriented game… Personally, while I would certainly enjoy playing an improved SP experience, I am not currently disappointed in any way by what they have already shipped.

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 8 years ago

        The story typically helps in promoting sales down the road. Look at titles like half life and even modern 1. Those games enjoyed prolonged sales due to the popularity of the SP element even though they both had very popular MP.

          • JohnC
          • 8 years ago

          Half-Life was primarily a single-player game, so of course it mostly sold due to the very well-written SP part. I remember it had some kind of MP mode (DM?), but I don’t really remember what its MP was like (perhaps I was too occupied with “proper” MP games at that time, like first UT). As for MW1 (if that is what you’re talking about) – I’ve played it, both SP and MP, but honestly can’t really remember it having any kind of “special” or memorable SP experience, I can’t even name any of the character’s names from the SP part of the game without using Wikipedia for it…

    • JohnC
    • 8 years ago

    Well, I wouldn’t say that BF3 is “pretty amazing”, but it’s a fun and visually pleasing game from what I’ve seen so far.

      • lycium
      • 8 years ago

      I’d expect a little bias towards Rage, being JohnC 😉

    • yogibbear
    • 8 years ago

    Thanks for beta testing it. I’ll pick it up for < $30 when there’s no Origin and they’ve added in VOIP.

      • Dashak
      • 8 years ago

      +1 for microphone support. It still doesn’t work in BFBC2… what is it, 19 months after launch?

    • gorillagarrett
    • 8 years ago

    The texture quality doesn’t change when going from low to Ultra.Check this video out:

    [url<]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoRyz6nh_w[/url<]

      • yogibbear
      • 8 years ago

      EDIT: Are you sure it doesn’t auto detect your VRAM and set the textures that way?

    • Walkintarget
    • 8 years ago

    As a semi-retired gamer dating back to the ‘Doom’ days, I am finding my time for what I considered an essential part of every evening is dwindling fast. No more 2+ hours each evening spent playing TF2, Company of Heroes, Fallout, Borderland, etc.

    I was never a fan of the BF series, but being a member of an active gaming community, I watched as the younger guys geared up for this game. I even blew $1400 on a new build to play the hell out of whatever game was on the horizon and gave the BF3 beta a try … but, oh, it was wasted effort.

    First I was met with this requirement for Origin, yet another frontend like GfWL which I found to be a waste. OK, whatever … I installed Origin. I then ran into a password issue, as when I tried to log in it informed me that I had used a non-standard character in my password (oh, the horrors !!) But .. it left me use that password to set up Origin ?!!???

    I eventually got past that issue, but then was unable to join ANY server for 2 nights in a row. Yet another beta bug that was hanging up joining a server. I do not have the time nor the patience to put any more effort into the game, so I gladly uninstalled Origin and the BF3 beta and went back to my old games that just work.

    If you young’ens can get it to work (yes, the retail game is MUCH improved over the beta) and enjoy it, more power to you. I just don’t have it in me to suffer through the frontends, workarounds and general mess that today’s game can bring upon me. Ohh, and I see the SP game REQUIRES an internet connection as well, so enjoy it for what it is, but I’m sitting this one out.

      • homerdog
      • 8 years ago

      You claim to be a long time PC gamer, yet don’t seem to understand the concept of a beta. There’s a reason they didn’t call it a demo.

      Trust me the final game is much improved over the beta in just about every way.

        • Walkintarget
        • 8 years ago

        Ohh, I understand what beta means, but that doesn’t make me want to play BF3 regardless of whether it was a demo, beta or retail product. I just hate using WASD controls, and BF2, and I assume BF3 do not allow you to change the movement keys to support both keyboard and mouse movement. It is a personal preference thing, but I just can’t use WASD without it completely ruining my gameplay.

          • Noigel
          • 8 years ago

          I agree that BF3 did half-cocked controls… they won’t recognize my (Razer) mouse’s middle wheel click or the two side buttons.

          The side buttons are non-standard but BF3 is the first game I’ve seen in the long time that doesn’t recognize them.

          The mouse wheel click not being recognized is a slap to all mouse-wielding gamers… and an afront to my sensitive nature… who the heck doesn’t know about the mouse wheel click? I mean, c’mon man!

            • volnaiskra
            • 8 years ago

            Google a program called “xmouse”. BF3 might not register those 3 buttons, but xmouse will, and you can use it to remap them to whatever key you like while you’re playing BF3. Problem solved.

      • JohnC
      • 8 years ago

      You have some kind of a problem with an internet access at home or something? If not – why mention the internet connection requirements of this game at all? As far as for Origin – everybody nowadays are trying to use their own content distribution service, and theoretically there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it is done right, and from what I’ve experienced the Origin works (and feels) much, MUCH better than Microsoft’s own abomination. Sure it is slightly annoying to have it using extra HDD space and memory when it’s running, but such minor annoyances are greatly outweighed by the amount of fun I am currently having in BF3, and I shut the Origin down anyway when I’m done playing the game (just like I do with Steam or anything similar).

      • NarwhaleAu
      • 8 years ago

      If that’s the worst you can come up with, the game sounds awesome. I’m a bit of a retired gamer myself, which is why I’m surprised at how whiney you are. Once you get to my age, you tend to take these things in stride and little things like emailed password resets don’t bother me. Origin was about as painless as it comes. Maybe you just had a bad day at work.

    • Arclight
    • 8 years ago

    Rage was meant for the single player experience with multi-player, imo, more as a bonus but not as a main focus. The opposite is valid for BF3 with multi-player being at it’s core and having a single-player just as a bonus. Hope id gets their next installment glitch-free from the start.

      • Chrispy_
      • 8 years ago

      It’ll be a while. Each new engine takes longer to make than the last one. I suspect idTech5 will be around for several years yet.

        • Arclight
        • 8 years ago

        I was actually referring to id s next game which is rumoured to be Doom. I m sure it will be a long time till we see idTech6.

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