Apple posts record numbers for the holiday quarter

Apparently, there were lots of iPhones in Christmas stockings. Lots of iPads, too… and lots of Macs. Apple’s results for the fiscal quarter ending December 31 are out, and they’re a sight to behold: record-breaking revenue and profits, over six points of margin growth, and insane device sales numbers.

   Q1FY11 Q4FY11 Q1FY12
Revenue  $26.74 billion $28.27 billion  $46.33 billion
Net profit  $6 billion $6.62 billion  $13.06 billion
Gross margin  38.5% 40.3%  44.7%

There you go. Apple more than doubled its net profit compared to the same quarter a year ago, and its revenue went up a staggering 73%. Looking at the number of devices sold last quarter helps put things in perspective:

   Q1FY11 Q4FY11 Q1FY12
iPhones  16.24 million 17.07 million 37.04 million
iPads  7.33 million 11.12 million  15.43 million
Macs 4.13 million 4.89 million  5.2 million
iPods  19.45 million 6.62 million  15.4 million

Yes, iPhone sales ballooned up from 16 million units to 37 million, while iPad sales more than doubled—and here I was thinking Android was getting all up in Apple’s business. Those numbers can’t be put in context until Android device shipment figures are out, but still, damn. The iPhone 4S’s arrival on October 14 must be at least partly responsible for the explosion in growth. I would guess the iPhone 4’s price drop to $99 also drew in a lot of folks.

In its almost comically terse announcement, Apple says it expects revenue of "about $32.5 billion" for the ongoing quarter. That would represent a substantial leap over the $24.67 million Apple posted for Q2FY11, which would no doubt call for new instances of the word "record" in headlines. And so the cycle continues.

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    • MarioJP
    • 8 years ago

    People that are voting us down don’t speak because it is the truth. I tried the Iphone 4. Nice phone but was not really interested and definitely don’t want to be part of thee garden of eve lol.

    • MarioJP
    • 8 years ago

    What is interesting is people that are voted down does not like that Apple is being dissed. Kind of scary if you look at the big picture.

    I guess Apple fans are very loyal like religion is to church. Funny how well this fits, as Lord Jobs is looking down upon thee, making him grin. Whats next if you don’t own any iproducts you’re outdated?? lmao.

    But in the end of the day, Apple is making ton of money, and is laughing all the way to the bank. Loyal or not Apple does not care bwahahah.

      • Dooby-Doo
      • 8 years ago

      Are people not allowed to disagree with your opinion?

      Seems like all they are doing is disagreeing. Something they are perfectly entitled to do.

      Nothing scary about it at all, the iPhone 4S is the best phone, hardware wise, right now. Combine that with the App Store, Siri, longest battery life etc and you have a compelling proposition which most people will ‘agree’ with – hence the record sales figures.

    • ThorAxe
    • 8 years ago

    Enjoy it while you can Apple…..you are finished.

      • Deanjo
      • 8 years ago

      Putting that under her your Dec 21st “The end is near” sign are you? Because it has the same amount of credibility.

        • ThorAxe
        • 8 years ago

        Tell that to Kodak…they all fall eventually.

          • Deanjo
          • 8 years ago

          Huge difference between Kodak and Apple. Apple adjusts to the market, Kodak didn’t and relied on a product that was obsoleted virtually overnight. Their last big refuge was the the motion picture industry and that went down the tubes with adopting of digital recording media.

            • ThorAxe
            • 8 years ago

            You do realize that Kodak virtually invented the digital camera right?

            • demani
            • 8 years ago

            And did almost nothing with it for years because it was in competition with their bread and butter.

            And it also took Kodak how long to fade? Apple–if they were to follow the exact same curve–still has a long way to go.

            The better comparison would be to IBM, who rose and fell and rose again as they adjusted to the market.

            • Deanjo
            • 8 years ago

            And? Apple didn’t invent the MP3 player either but dominated that market as well with many others.

            • adisor19
            • 8 years ago

            RIM is now Kodak a few years behind. Mark my words.

            Adi

        • demani
        • 8 years ago

        I hadn’t considered the 2012 armageddon angle…so in that regard he would technically be correct, and as we all know that is the best kind of correct.

      • TEAMSWITCHER
      • 8 years ago

      I think this is just the start of Apple’s dominance in consumer electronics.

      You really don’t understand what Apple has done…they have solved the Innovator’s Dilemma – buying up tech commodities in massive purchases leaving your competition is unable to compete on specs and price. Until someone figures out how to create a new Dilemma for Apple, these record quarters will continue.

      A big heads up to the PC industry, Macs are now being produced in the same commodity dominating strategy as iPhones and iPads. Using this, Apple might start creating computers that PC makers will be hard pressed to copy at lower price points. With sales slumping it may already be too late, as PC makers find themselves short on cash to lock in new component contracts.

      This year is critical, Apple could unleash an onslaught of lower priced iMacs, MacBooks, and iPads. If they do, start looking for long time PC makers like HP, Dell, Acer, and Toshiba, to flounder BIG TIME.

        • MarioJP
        • 8 years ago

        Its a good thing the world is going to end this year Apple has ruined it =P

      • MarioJP
      • 8 years ago

      Not sure about that, although can become a Monopoly like MS once did in the 90’s though.

        • Deanjo
        • 8 years ago

        Like MS once did? Did I miss something? MS still is a monopoly.

    • Deanjo
    • 8 years ago

    So glad I bought those stocks back in 2004 when the speculation of Apple starting to use x86 surfaced.

    • Bensam123
    • 8 years ago

    I really hope they stop at ‘monstrously big’ fad and don’t turn into a megaconglomerate. I don’t think anything Apple has built recently is a shining star that deserves such a ribbon. They’re living off of fads, group think, ‘being cool’, and trying to present a lot of fluff without substance. Almost all of their success have been based around hype, it’s their secret sauce. They have the perfect buildup formula to keep people in tow and buying every new model of their phone that comes out. It doesn’t even matter how much the product costs or if they already have the last generation model. Their cult following is growing and it’s cool to just own one of their products, that’s any companies wet dream.

    The sad part is, the entire industry is starting to follow their lead and just produce knock offs of their products. That’s what I really dislike. Apples can keep their shinies, but when the rest of the industry starts taking a dive it makes me sad inside.

    • Silus
    • 8 years ago

    It’s always good to know how much the masses are “distracted” by a brand. Apple sells good quality products, but far from being the best quality yet charges at lot more than everyone else does for their superior devices (hardware wise). Apple had an edge in software for tablet products, which was their foresight and they deserve to be praised for that. Apart from that, they’re only as big as they are because of brand recognition. Ask most Apple fanboys about what their products can do and they have absolutely no idea, except that it’s an Apple product and it’s better than anything else, just because Apple marketing said so (remember the Mac vs PC ads?)

    Still, Apple never had so much competition as right now and despite their campaign to compete by suing everyone else (instead of actually showing up with better products), so I very much doubt that they’ll continue to sell as much as they did until now. Only if the USPO continues to be a bunch of idiots and let Apple patent black rectangles with buttons and Apple continues to sue everyone else until the other party runs out of money, will Apple continue to grow as they did until now.

      • demani
      • 8 years ago

      Wait, your point is that nobody understands what their devices do? Or why they would want them? And yet Apple has redefined three markets in the last few years based on simple marketing? It took no study of the marketplace, knowledge of what customers were actually looking for (hint: it wasn’t Windows CE or Windows Mobile 6 and it appears that RIM was only in it when they were the best option out of a bad lot).

      You are correct that Apple has more competition than ever: and they are doing better than ever. They figured out what people wanted, and Samsung is playing catch up every time. Sure their hardware may be better spec wise, but they have a ton of SKUs and most people don’t even care (almost every Android user I know worries less about whether its Moto or Samsung or HTC, and more about what release it has and the other features-brand doesn’t mean much as long as its running Android).

      If apple was only competing by lawsuit they’d be where Kodak is- they are competing in the marketplace (and doing well there) as much as they are in the courts (and along with Microsoft).

      • Dooby-Doo
      • 8 years ago

      Sorry, which other phones are better ‘hardware wise’?

      The iPhone 4S has the FASTEST CPU/GPU combination in any phone, ever made. Full stop. This means it’s 2x faster than the Samsung Galaxy S2, and 3x faster than the ‘flagship’ Nexus Prime.

      It also has a leading screen DPI, 8 megapixel camera, Siri, iCloud, biggest app store in the world (thousands of things you can do which you can’t on Android), highest customer satisfaction ratings…

      Oh, and it also has the longest battery life.

      So how exactly is it not as good? You’re delusional.

      Do you honestly believe that the 37 million people who bought iPhones last quarter are all Apple fan-boys? All buying for illogical, irrational reasons, despite it being more expensive? Please.

      The end result of everything I posted above is a phone which ALWAYS feels responsive, doesn’t crash and lag like Android phones, takes pictures much faster, allows you thousands of apps such as Sky Sports which aren’t on Android, will definitely be supported software wise more than 2 years in the future, and lets you use it for longer with its much better battery life. As it happens, it’s also arguably the nicest looking – but notice how far down the list that came?

      The best advertising is word of mouth. Apples marketing is so effective because it’s carried out by people who actually enjoy their phone. The same reason no Android handset is seeing anywhere near the success.

        • lilbuddhaman
        • 8 years ago

        -thousands of things you can do which you can’t on Android)
        Such as ?
        -8MP camera
        Many many phones have same, Nokia has a model with 12MP
        -Fastest CPU/GPU combo
        There is no 1:1 test between an android and ios device that proves this, and all benchmarks used to compare the two are exactly that, benchmarks.
        -You mention screen dpi but not size. If I were defending an android phone I’d mention screen size but not dpi. Which is more important comes down to preference.
        -Siri and iCloud are software features (as is the aforementioned app market), surely your informed self knows that.
        -Battery Life
        Depends on which iphone model. 3G has good life. 4GS has terrible battery life.

          • adisor19
          • 8 years ago

          You’re delusional. The A5 GPU, after almost a year of being on the market, is still the fastest GPU of any SoC out there. There are benchmarks everywhere proving it.

          Adi

            • lilbuddhaman
            • 8 years ago

            If you’re going to reply to my comment at least respond to what was typed.

      • Hrunga Zmuda
      • 8 years ago

      Opinions are like navels. Everyone has them. But one interesting thing that’s been said elsewhere is that you have a right to your own opinions, but you do not have a right to your own personal facts. And all the straw men you bring up in your arguments are simply that. Scraping for personal facts regardless of the reality of the situation.

      All I keep wondering when I read such stuff is, “With all those straw men, aren’t you afraid they might gang up on you?”

    • Aveon
    • 8 years ago

    I bet most of this revenue was spent on the lawsuits.

      • Silus
      • 8 years ago

      100 million alone was spent on a lawsuit with HTC or Motorola (can’t remember which exactly)

      Not to mention the delusional Steve Jobs that said we would spend 40 billion to destroy Android if he had to. Apple fans are in the same league and love to live in the RDFs Apple creates for them. The religious comparisons are quite accurate actually. What other bunch of people accepts what a company/church tells them without questioning it, while throwing money at the already extremely wealthy company/church ?

        • demani
        • 8 years ago

        Yeah- its just the Apple fools. It’s not like Bill Gates and Paul Allen aren’t TWO of the richest men-and they certainly didn’t do it by people throwing huge sums of cash at them…

        I’m not saying your point about Jobs being completely obsessed with the Android thing isn’t correct, but at the same time, how would you feel if one of your good friends said he wasn’t dating your girlfriend for a few years and then “Ooops, that’s right-I HAVE been tapping that for a while now! Sorry!” Similar feeling, just bigger stakes.

        And your rant makes you sound just as much of a blowhard and zealot-your just on the other side of the fence screaming right back.

    • NeelyCam
    • 8 years ago

    You heard it from me first, folks! Apple iPhone6 will have Intel SoC inside! Why? Because otherwise Apple will lose the market to Motorola.

    David Kanter had a good article about Medfield:

    [url<]http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT012312135041[/url<] The most interesting tidbit that I haven't seen anywhere before was in the last paragraph: he claims Intel's 22nm cell phone chip coming out in 2013 will have PowerVR Series6 GPU in it. If this is true, it'll be one of the first chips with this superGPU, and it will be on 22nm trigate. I predict utter performance and power efficiency dominance in CPU [b<]and[/b<] GPU. Let's make this a "Was NeelyCam right?" prediction - we can come back next year to see if I was wrong. (And no - that 'Intel inside iPhone6' comment isn't covered by this bet... only the performance+powerefficiency on CPU+GPU. Apple is too unpredictable.)

      • End User
      • 8 years ago

      Motorola?!

        • NeelyCam
        • 8 years ago

        Lol, yeah, that was a tangent, wasn’t it…?

        Not too far fetched, though. Motorola is desperate to get back the cell phone market share they once had. Motorola was a top cell phone maker in the USA when cell phones first became popular (t)here. The original RAZR was innovative and cool. Droid was pretty popular. The new Droid RAZR gets good reviews. And now they are under the Google umbrella – surely getting some extra in-house preferential treatment.

        Meanwhile, Motorola signed a multi-year development deal with Intel, while Intel has separately announced x86/Android OS development deals with Google (so, basically, these are all part of the same grand plan by the three… or is it two(?) parties).

        Comparing Motorola Atrix to Samsung Galaxy, there is little difference between the two. Samsung currently has a much better distribution network around the world – which is why their volumes are much much higher – but the phones themselves have been equal (and don’t forget that Motorola has been in this business a LOT longer than Samsung). At various points, Motorola has been well ahead Samsung in features or performance (like when the original Atrix came out).

        My prediction is that Motorola will be like HTC – a pretty unknown brand in most places, but able to compete with something that sets them apart: screen/camera/UI for HTC, modem/hardware for Motorola. And that hardware comes from Intel.

        Unless, of course, Apple wants it. Because if Apple wants it, Intel will be more than happy to drop practically all other customers.

      • esterhasz
      • 8 years ago

      I think you will be proven wrong. If you look at Apple’s recent acquisitions, everything points into the direction of them expanding their control over the hardware internals rather than reducing it. Also, controlling hardware + software makes raw performance less important for Apple than other companies.

        • NeelyCam
        • 8 years ago

        I see what you’re saying, but there is a paradigm shift coming.

        So far, Apple’s software has been the key reason why they’ve been on top. iOS is smooth even with weaker hardware because the whole operating system is optimized for prioritizing the user input/interaction (seriously – why aren’t ALL operating systems like that?!?!). But Android is catching up on that front,

        I don’t have an iPhone4S, but I have the latest iPod Touch, and although the OS ‘animation’ makes it seem smooth, most operations feel slower overall compared to my Tegra2 Atrix – with the iPod I end up waiting for things to happen (yes- it’s probably measured in milliseconds, but it’s still noticeable).

        Obviously, comparing those two is somewhat unfair because one is a dual-core A9, while the other is a single-core. But that’s the key – if an Android phone with almost the same OS efficiency comes out with slightly better hardware, it can feel faster and better.

        That was a somewhat long intro to my main argument, which is that OS matters, but less so these days, and hardware-wise [b<]Apple can't be on top in the future unless they go with Intel[/b<]. If Apple stays with what they've been doing so far, they'll be on TSMC - roughly 1-1.5 generations behind Intel. Medfield is on par with DC A9 chips, and at 22nm Intel will be well ahead in all performance metrics (including graphics, based on that tidbit on David Kanter's article). So far, Apple has been battling other ARM chips with their own ARM on an equal process node, and they've been winning because of their superior OS. But if Android is improving and Intel offers this very different CPU/GPU option that nobody else can offer, can Apple still compete with their in-house hardware? My guess is no.

          • End User
          • 8 years ago

          If Medfield is on par with A9 then it will be behind when A15 comes out (possible March). By the time Medfield is at 22nm the A15 successor will be on the horizon. Intel is playing catch-up.

          Edit: Medfield looks good [url<]http://goo.gl/lwGuz[/url<] against current CPUs. Has any company announced a Medfield product? PowerVR Series 6 will not be exclusive to Medfield.

            • NeelyCam
            • 8 years ago

            You’re talking about architectural advances. Intel will have those too (22nm: Silvermont, 14/15nm: Airmont). If we only consider those, ARM and Intel x86 might trade punches.

            But the real difference comes from Intel’s process advantage. ARM and Intel x86 will be on equal footing process-wise in 2012.

            In 2013, Intel moves to 22nm trigate – ARM stays with 28nm non-trigate,
            In 2014, Intel moves to 14/15nm (probably trigate) – ARM moves to 20/22nm non-trigate.

            In 2013-2014 Intel will have a significant process advantage (and the architectural improvements will match ARM’s).

            And yes – Series6 is not exclusive to Intel, but with the process advantage, Intel can clock it higher, gaining the upper hand over others.

      • blastdoor
      • 8 years ago

      I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong, but… how many fabs could apple build from quarterly free cash flow alone? How many from the $100 billion stockpile?

      Only point being — Apple is arguably the richest, least constrained company in the world. The notion that any other company, including Intel, could have exclusive early access to anything that Apple can’t have exclusive early access (but would desire such access to) to is a little hard to believe.

      Again, that doesn’t mean that you’re completely wrong… If Intel makes Apple the right offer, Apple would switch to Intel. Apple is pretty agnostic about this stuff. But I think it is wrong to conclude that Apple would be at a disadvantage if they didn’t switch to Intel. If Apple doesn’t switch to Intel, the more likely conclusion is that they also have early access and/or have something better lined up elsewhere.

        • NeelyCam
        • 8 years ago

        Developing a high-yield high-performance semiconductor process is a product of decades of R&D experience and know-how. Apple wouldn’t be able to just “build a fab” and somehow be able to compete with Intel – regardless of how much cash they had. The best they could do is buy a fab company (e.g., GloFo), and they’d still be struggling to compete with Intel. (Note that even Apple doesn’t have enough cash to buy Intel.)

        Intel has a lot of cash too, but it wouldn’t be able to develop an iPhone4 overnight. It would take years, regardless of how much cash they were to put into it (and they are doing that right now).

        Apple [b<]will[/b<] be at a hardware power efficiency disadvantage in 2013 and 2014 (because TSMC/GloFo/others are behind Intel in fab technology) unless: 1) They buy Intel's chips. 2) They are willing to make Intel an offer that's high enough that Intel will let Apple use their fabs for Apple chips. Apple may be the "largest" company in the world if measured by market cap, or maybe even if measured by the cash reserves. But that doesn't mean they can beat Intel in process technology anytime soon. [quote<]If Apple doesn't switch to Intel, the more likely conclusion is that they also have early access and/or have something better lined up elsewhere.[/quote<] There is no "early access" in process technology that is earlier than Intel's. Apple might not switch to Intel because it may hurt their margins (development work porting iOS to x86, messing up the whole app ecosystem etc.). But if they don't, somebody will, slap on Android, and might be able to compete with Apple in pure speed and battery life. Apple still has OS efficiency advantage, but with Google continuously improving Android, how long with that advantage last...?

    • DavidC1
    • 8 years ago

    Who cares if Samsung sold more smartphones? Apple achieves their market share with a SINGLE device, Samsung needs to do that using multiple devices. That’s unprecedented. Every part of the phone can be optimized for high margins because its one device, and volume discount will work its magic. Not only that, iPhones are seen as premium devices.

    It’s probably not even in the same league with revenue share, not to mention gross margins. They do act like an evil empire, but its not like we can rely on the competitors. Hell, they seem to be even GOOD at suing others and succeeding!

      • Ushio01
      • 8 years ago

      3 devices.

        • Dooby-Doo
        • 8 years ago

        1 device.

        The iPhone.

        Samsung releases multiple models, and multiple ITERATIONS of those MULTIPLE models.

        Apple release a single phone, the iPhone – and multiple ITERATIONS of that ONE model.

          • kc77
          • 8 years ago

          err no. The iphone is not the same as iPhone 3, 3GS, 4, 4S etc,. They compete in same price range but they are not the same model and are often times sold in tandem of one another.

      • zzz
      • 8 years ago

      I like how the most recent lawsuit is over ‘slide to unlock’ on Android 4.x devices… it’s a circle. Good thing Apple doesn’t pay dividends, can’t afford to pay investors AND fund bullshit lawsuits.

        • Decelerate
        • 8 years ago

        [quote<]Good thing Apple doesn't pay dividends, can't afford to pay investors AND fund **** lawsuits.[/quote<] There are 98 billion arguments that say otherwise.

      • beck2448
      • 8 years ago

      Apple makes 50% of ALL the smartphone profits. Amazing.

    • Prion
    • 8 years ago

    Substantial leap nothing, going from $24.67 [b<]million[/b<] to ~$32.5 [b<]billion[/b<] is a jump of more than an order of magnitude.

      • khands
      • 8 years ago

      Those pesky illions.

    • Rza79
    • 8 years ago

    I never understood why you even would want to have something that everyone already has.
    It’s not like the iPhone is the best phone out there. Even if it was, I wouldn’t want it because it’s too widespread.
    I never understood my peers (or friends). They all want to join the rage rather than to stand out.
    Apple wants you to believe that owning an iPhone makes you stand out and be different but I don’t see how that’s even remotely possible.

      • Deanjo
      • 8 years ago

      There is a good reason why Apple has done so well with the iPhone. Not only did they create an easy way for purchasing items for their products they also have every Tom, Dick and Harry Inc. creating products for Apple products. The 3rd party support has a lot to do with the success of a technology. There tonnes of Android phones out there but none of them individually enjoy the same success as an Apple product because of this and this is what makes Apple products so appealing to the masses. Even for things like the selection of cases for a phone influence the consumers purchase decision. You buy an android phone 6 months later is obsolete and replaced by a new model. Good luck finding a replacement case another 6 months after that.

      • tay
      • 8 years ago

      Do you know that more Android phones sell than iphones as Google fans are quick to point out? Do you use Windows?

      • derFunkenstein
      • 8 years ago

      Here it is, folks. The hipsters are going to be leaving Apple…not liking what everyone else already has…you’re cute.

        • Rza79
        • 8 years ago

        What do you mean with leave Apple?
        I was an avid Siemens user. Owned three generations of their phones. Each one I used for three years and then passed on to my mom. Then one Sony Ericsson (which my dad still uses making it +4 years of usage). For the last 1.5y I’m using a Nokia N8.
        I need a phone that doesn’t break on impact (or shatter) and lasts me many years.

        What I was pointing out with my previous post isn’t that people should rebel against products but me not understanding why you would want something just because your friends have it.

          • deathBOB
          • 8 years ago

          Now we know: Nokia = the original hipster phone.

            • adisor19
            • 8 years ago

            Your comment was meant to be funny, but it’s actually true ! Back in college, Nokia was THE phone that all the cool kids had or were trying to get their hands on. Then, Ericsson and SonyErricsson became the new cool brand phone to have. Then blackberry followed when they released their BB Pearl and then Apple took over in 2007 and never let go.

            Adi

            • NeelyCam
            • 8 years ago

            I don’t know where you went to college, but Ericsson was [i<]never[/i<] cool. Why would somebody by a swedish phone when they could buy a finnish one..?

      • Bensam123
      • 8 years ago

      The standout has become the range and to the ashes it will return once again once people figure it out…

      • demani
      • 8 years ago

      So in other words you want a TouchPad and Pre?

      Seriously though, are you a Windows guy? Cuz really, THAT’s what everyone has. And Android too.

      Apple OSes are still not the majority in their categories.

      But also basing decisions not based on the quality of the product but based on the emotional reaction to the ubiquity, and then complaining about it in public, seems to be the height of hipster hypocrisy.

      • MarioJP
      • 8 years ago

      Its not so much of that its cuz Apple knows what the people want A super simplicity phone that helps you navigate your life since this world is full of evil things thus Apple will protect them hello siri?? lol.

      • Dooby-Doo
      • 8 years ago

      The iPhone 4S IS actually the best phone out there, by a lot of metrics.

      Fastest (CPU/GPU is faster than any other phone)
      Best screen DPI (apart from 1 rubbish Android)
      Longest Battery life (look on Anandtech)
      Best Camera
      Biggest App Store (thousands of things you can do on iPhone that you can’t on others)
      Siri..

      The point you make that iPhone is the ‘mainstream’ – I actually agree with. But ironically, that proves your first point wrong. Nobody buys a phone to be ‘mainstream’ – so they must be buying it for more practical, logical reasons, like the best customer satisfaction ratings of any phone, or the fact that it gets software support for well over 2 years unlike poor Android users.

      🙂

      • Hrunga Zmuda
      • 8 years ago

      I don’t let other people determine what I buy. Whether they buy something or not is irrelevant. The iPhone is the best phone out there for many reasons. Hardware, software, integration, lack of malware…

    • sschaem
    • 8 years ago

    Apple could make even more money if they use California business model.
    California made 680 billion for services rendered in 2011, vs ~150 billion in revenue for Apple.
    (But Apple win on margin 46% Vs -10% )

    In short: apple offer services that you must pay for, that you use them or not.

    Citizen – “But I dont want to pay 10% of my income for this cloud service, it doesn’t even work right!”

    Apple – “If you refuse, we will dissolve you business and fire all your employees, we will auction your home and belonging for pennies, and send you to do manual labor while incarcerated for a decade, while your wife re-marry and you see your kids grow on facebook.. do you still think 10% is allot for this cloud service?”

    Citizen – “oh… you said 10% ? well, that sound fair… plus I might need this cloud service. I’m sold! Who do I make the check out to?”

    Apple ‘ “BTW, we spent more last year then we anticipated .. you, your daughter, your two sons and your wife own us $9,500, each… But dont worry, we made a loan with the bank of china in your kids name at 5%. The accrued interest in your joined account will rise to $2375 a year… also that 10% is just not enough, so we will cut the cloud service hours of operation from 3 days a week. 9am to 3pm and raise it to 11%, this will reduce the amount we will need to borrow next year.”

      • NeelyCam
      • 8 years ago

      Another one of these anti-tax idiots.

        • cygnus1
        • 8 years ago

        sounds more anti-government spending than anti-tax. toward the end it sounded like he’d rather have higher taxes than loans from china

      • Hrunga Zmuda
      • 8 years ago

      What ARE you ranting on about? I live in California, and I don’t see what you’re talking about. In fact, they’re giving me $2,500 in the next few weeks because I bought a home last year. And they’re giving me another $2,500 next year, just like they did last year!

      You must have done something illegal and now are mad that they caught you? At least that’s what your rambling description of a fictitious California sounds like to me.

        • lilbuddhaman
        • 8 years ago

        Your statements do nothing to debunk his, and neither of your statements have anything to do with the story….

    • lilbuddhaman
    • 8 years ago

    This is part of the reason why Americans (and most Europeans?) are broke. Spending money on stuff you really don’t need.

    edit: I’m amazed that this got -5. Do you guys really not believe that many consumers out there are spending more than they should on thing they really don’t need? I suppose everyone here has their car and mortgage paid off, $60k in the bank for their [future] child’s college tuition, and 6+ months salary worth of “emergency” funds in the bank in case of some kind of personal disaster? Or I suppose that someone living in the lower middle class does better for themselves / the economy by spending money they don’t have (credit card) on an iPad or the newest generation iPhone (or even Android) instead of putting it away to better their situation ?

    Yeah…thought so.

      • tfp
      • 8 years ago

      yep, and spending time they don’t have on facebook/pintrest/forums/internet/ect…

        • Grigory
        • 8 years ago

        Very fine point, sir!

        • lilbuddhaman
        • 8 years ago

        true story: buddy of mine had to fire his first employee a few weeks ago for surfing the net, facebook, etc etc. All with logs from IT showing without a doubt it was her. She’s now suing the company claiming she was fired due to racism.

        God forbid people do their jobs at their jobs.

      • Corrado
      • 8 years ago

      And Asians too. Don’t forget how big Apple products are in China now. What with people selling kindeys to get them. So its basically the whole world.

        • lilbuddhaman
        • 8 years ago

        China is a whole other beast, I will make no attempt at claiming I know their situation, but from what it looks, China is America circa 1900 (except with modern tech in the cities).

          • khands
          • 8 years ago

          More like post WWII, when the world was rebuilding and America had the manufacturing capacity to meet their needs.

      • Dooby-Doo
      • 8 years ago

      Yeah, people are broke every time a company posts record phone sales.

      So, last time Apple posted record sales, everyone was broke, and thus couldn’t afford to buy the iPhone 4S when it came out a year later – so it didn’t sell at all….. oh hang on?

      /sigh

      How people manage their money is their business, not yours, as are their priorities. And you don’t get to decide what people ‘really need’ since that is entirely subjective at every level.

      You bang on about children’s tuition, how about wanting to send your children pictures, or emails, on your phone? Or how about talking to them face to face when they are in another country?

      Or perhaps they are happy when playing games on an iPhone you bought FOR THEM. But who cares about how happy your children are, right? Wrong.

      Silly post, that’s why it got down-voted.

    • Decelerate
    • 8 years ago

    … and HP exited the tablet market. I guess 15Mil+ products per quarter wasn’t a market worth fighting for. *sigh*

    Congrats Apple! I hope that it can crush all the competition racing to the bottom, and then become an evil empire (Late 90’s Microsoft? Early 00’s RIM?) so that another company out-innovates it and continues the cycle.

    Disruptive innovation is the way.

      • NeelyCam
      • 8 years ago

      Apple is an evil empire already.

        • Chrispy_
        • 8 years ago

        not only is this worth a +1, but a bump to the top too!

        • Decelerate
        • 8 years ago

        They’re not perceived as such (to the masses).

          • Grigory
          • 8 years ago

          Only by the Apple fanboys.

          • Geistbar
          • 8 years ago

          They might not be perceived as such, but that doesn’t change that they are one.

          • NeelyCam
          • 8 years ago

          [url<]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-ceo-faces-first-test-000903265.html[/url<] [quote<]"With Apple stating that it is 'actively' pursuing its options with regards to its cash balance, we believe the commentary may be setting itself up for a cash dividend in FY12," Ticonderoga Securities analyst Brian White said, raising his target on the stock to [b<][u<]$666[/u<][/b<]."[/quote<] I think that's proof enough. Tim Cook is the antichrist, and was just waiting for 2012. Things will get interesting this year.

      • indeego
      • 8 years ago

      RIM was never significant.

      • esterhasz
      • 8 years ago

      It is true that overwhelming dominance and what people perceive as “evil” practices (such as the walled gardens around apps and content) has traditionally created opposition. But in a global market, very different cultural sensibilities come into play and Apple is doing really well in the Chinese market and its lust for status symbols. Even if popularity in Western countries wanes, I guess Apple has a lot of room for growth.

      • zzz
      • 8 years ago

      Did you actually put forth even the concept that HP is anything but pure crap in everything?

      Asus, Motorola and Samsung are releasing better tablets than Apple and are their competitors, not HP.

      EDIT: I’m not saying those with better hardware and OS are better at marketting their product, they obviously aren’t, just saying their products ARE better and they suck at selling it compared to Apple.

        • Decelerate
        • 8 years ago

        Motorola I can see performing, and that’s only because they are part of Google now.

        Asus and Samsung are only “me too” corporations (even if Samsung adds its flavor to the Android OS).

        HP actually had a differentiating product, which they let go, thanks to MBA managers (ironic, since I’m an MBA too). I have read that Apple now sells more ipads than HP sells computers, dunno if it’s true but if it is then they’re really screwed. Even though it’s bad for HP, it would’ve been better in the long term for the user to have HP follow Apotheker’s idea to let go of the PC.

        Unfortunately thriving-by-inertia is good for the quarter-minded manager’s golden parachutes.

    • Ushio01
    • 8 years ago

    Samsung sold 35 million smartphones in the same quarter so android overall will be much higher.

    Apple desktop sales 1.48 million, notebook sales 3.72 million

    Apple TV 1.4 million in the December quarter, 2.8 million the previous financial year.

    Cash $97.6 billion INSANE.

      • ltcommander.data
      • 8 years ago

      With Samsung shipping 35 million smartphones and Apple selling 37 million iPhones, Apple appears to have regained it’s position as the top smartphone manufacturer.

      For interest, Apple reported 62 million total iOS device sales in the quarter. With ~37 million iPhones and ~15.5 million iPads, that means ~9.5 million iPod Touches were sold last quarter. So 61% of iPod sales are iPod Touch. iOS breakdown is 60% iPhones, 25% iPads, and 15% iPod Touch in terms of sales last quarter.

        • cygnus1
        • 8 years ago

        don’t apple tv’s get counted as iOS devices too?

          • ltcommander.data
          • 8 years ago

          That’s a good point. I suppose so even though Apple doesn’t actually mention the OS on the Apple TV’s product pages. Things would then come to, 37 million iPhones (60%), 15.4 million iPads (25%), 8.2 million iPod Touches (13%), and 1.4 million Apple TVs (2%) totaling 62 million iOS device sales last quarter.

      • Dooby-Doo
      • 8 years ago

      35 million is an unproven estimate. Samsung hasn’t released its figures yet

    • sweatshopking
    • 8 years ago

    This is what happens when you create 3 new markets. Smartphones, tablets, and “airs”, which everyone else wants to copy. You get to a well deserved position as number 1. well done boys, well done.
    also, first post, morons!

      • TurtlePerson2
      • 8 years ago

      I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Macbook Air and I go to a University with 40,000 people. Macs are everywhere, but not Airs.

        • Kollaps
        • 8 years ago

        I find that curious. While the 13″ MBP is still the most common Mac I see, I do see a number of Airs around campus. Apple, then HP, then Dell and then randomness is what I most commonly see around campus. This is at an overwhelmingly engineering and computer science focused school.

      • adisor19
      • 8 years ago

      Crap ! I gave a +1 before reading the last sentence.. i feel shame yet again.

      Adi

        • derFunkenstein
        • 8 years ago

        as you should.

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