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Morning, folks. Good Friday is an official holiday here at TR, so we won’t be publishing on a full schedule today. That’s probably best, since we were working late recording the latest episode of the TR Podcast last night, and we’ve all put in some long hours this week.

We do have a new blog post from David about mobile displays, full of ranty goodness. Also, I have a very brief update on the GeForce GTX 680, which I somehow failed to include in my follow-up article earlier this week.

You may recall that, in our initial review, we encountered some inordinately long frame rendering times in Arkham City of roughly 180 milliseconds on the GTX 680, a problem we didn’t see on any other card. We said in the article that Nvidia had attributed these slowdowns to an issue with the GPU Boost implementation in its early drivers for the GTX 680, a problem it claimed to have fixed in the final release driver. Well, prior to publishing my follow-up, I went back and re-tested with the 301.10 release drivers, with the intention of updating our performance results. Here’s the thing: the long frame times in Arkham City weren’t resolved. In fact, performance was entirely unchanged and consistent with our results from the older drivers. After looking into it a little with EVGA’s Precision monitoring tool, I don’t think the problem we saw was truly related to GPU Boost at all. Must be some other issue. The folks from Nvidia asked us for more info in order to file a bug report. Unless and until there’s a true fix made, our original results remain the best reflection of current performance.

Oh, and one more thing. I’ve been hard at work overhauling the CPU test rigs here in Damage Labs. Have a look:

They’re not quite finished yet, but we’re getting there.

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    • xeridea
    • 8 years ago

    What are those insanely sized CPU coolers?

      • Damage
      • 8 years ago

      Thermaltake Frio OCK

      • crabjokeman
      • 8 years ago

      As someone else commented, it’s probably: [url<]http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1417&ID=2044[/url<] Edit: I got beaten to it by someone on "vacation" πŸ™

    • Bensam123
    • 8 years ago

    What is the cooler on the left?

      • Damage
      • 8 years ago

      Thermaltake Frio OCK

        • Bensam123
        • 8 years ago

        Nice… I’m surprised you guys aren’t rocking something along the lines of a Zalman CNPS9500…

          • derFunkenstein
          • 8 years ago

          Cheaper 120mm coolers – like the Xigmatek 1283s or the CM 212+ – all do better than the Zalman 9500. Heck Zalman has some towers that do better now.

            • Bensam123
            • 8 years ago

            But do they look as awesome?

            When it comes down to it, the Intel stock heatsinks work fine too…

            • Firestarter
            • 8 years ago

            2nd one from the left IS a stock Intel heatsink

            • derFunkenstein
            • 8 years ago

            To me, the CNPS9500 and CNPS9700 just look old. They’ve been around for so long that they just don’t look good to me anymore. Unless they’re on an Athlon 64 or Pentium 4 system, they look out of place to me.

            • Bensam123
            • 8 years ago

            For me it’s the giant block radiators… which are essentially that. :l

    • Walkintarget
    • 8 years ago

    Good Friday hardware p0rn !!! Soooo hot !! Love the pic !

    I’m sure they work you hard, but it still looks like a hardware geeks dream job.

    • tbone8ty
    • 8 years ago

    i see an AM3+ rig on the far left πŸ˜‰ would be interested on how the GTX 680 runs on bulldozer.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 8 years ago

      Slower than it does on Sandy Bridge.

        • cygnus1
        • 8 years ago

        (nelson laugh) HA HA!

        • tbone8ty
        • 8 years ago

        duh thanks for pointing out the obvious…..the point is to test it on am3+/bulldozer and see how it does.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 8 years ago

          Poorly. Seriously, if you have an AMD system and buy one of these cards, you’ve thrown away money. You’ll never ever push it to its fullest.

            • Krogoth
            • 8 years ago

            You realize that 4Megapixel gaming and 2Megapixel gaming with heavy doses of AA/AF is typically GPU-bound?

            • sweatshopking
            • 8 years ago

            sure. typically. but not always. why throw a potential bottleneck in there for no reason? Df is right.

            • pikaporeon
            • 8 years ago

            [citation needed]

    • UberGerbil
    • 8 years ago

    Why is that the 1st and 3rd (from the left) systems seem to be identical except the cooler on one is turned 90ΒΊ vs the other?

      • Damage
      • 8 years ago

      Same cooler, different sockets and mobos with different orientations.

    • Duck
    • 8 years ago

    I’m not sure on having open test benches like that is a good idea.

    Compliance testing would include not emitting EMI and being immune to deliberately harmful EMI directed at them.

    I wonder if there is a possibility, however small, that the results could differ compared to fully cased systems.

      • StuG
      • 8 years ago

      Almost every extreme overclocking competition wants to talk with you ;P

        • Duck
        • 8 years ago

        lol I doubt that but thanks πŸ˜›

      • Theolendras
      • 8 years ago

      I don’t think Scott is having a generator running during the benchmark, just below the table or an extra powerful fluorescent hanging 6 inch over the photo. So why in hell would it matter ? Don’t tell me the other setups nearby there is no way that they emit that much EMF.

        • Duck
        • 8 years ago

        Mobile phones, wireless routers. We are all being bathed in microwave radiation from satellite TV transmissions. There is lots of EMI about and compliance testing isn’t there just to be annoying.

          • Theolendras
          • 8 years ago

          These waves aren’t that significant, you must have a big source on EM near the bench themselves to have any risk of influence on the results. So unless on special motherboard comes with 3g connectivity, or Scott leave it’s phone right on the table during the tests (even then I would be surprise of any significant impact) these are somewhat useless consideration. Maybe a nice precaution, if techreport, was somehow a overclocking oriented benchmark website, pushing system way beyond specs could requires extra precaution.

            • Deanjo
            • 8 years ago

            I wouldn’t be so sure about that. My Asus RT-N66U pumps out enough to cause it to be audible on unenclosed motherboards audio for example.

            • Theolendras
            • 8 years ago

            Is the router itself or on of it’s wi-fi client is quite close, like a few feets away ? With 3g or not ?

      • JohnC
      • 8 years ago

      I’ve just looked at teh box from my GTX680, as well as all of the included materials inside it. Still can’t find any warnings that the card MUST be used in a METAL enclosure (b.t.w, not ALL of PC cases are made out of metal material). Also, no words about potentially dangerous EMI rays from government or illuminati spy satellites.

        • Duck
        • 8 years ago

        The 680 GTX isn’t a ready-to-go consumer electronics device, but a component needing further assembly to be used. So it doesn’t need to pass the same stringent tests and they are not going to print warnings about how it hasn’t had any compliance testing, because why would they?

        Even the cheapest cases are made of metal. Which ones are not? Some devices like the PS3 are cased in plastic, but the electronics inside have a EMI shield on them: [url<]http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/PlayStation-3-Teardown/1260/5[/url<]

          • Deanjo
          • 8 years ago

          [quote<] Even the cheapest cases are made of metal. Which ones are not? [/quote<] [url<]http://www.xoxide.com/acryliccases.html[/url<]

        • Fighterpilot
        • 8 years ago

        Please do NOT mention Illuminati Spy Satellites in a public forum again.
        You do of course have relatives living back in the old country who we may have to detain……..

          • Deanjo
          • 8 years ago

          Of course he can’t see anything, all the warning stickers are in invisible ink.

      • Scrotos
      • 8 years ago

      Make some quickie faraday cages and call it done?

      • willmore
      • 8 years ago

      I don’t like the idea of open MBs like that for the risk of dropping something small and conductive on them by accident. One little staple or paper clip that gets mislaid could ruin your whole day.

      I keep my motherboards in a solid case or at least vertical.

    • codedivine
    • 8 years ago

    Transformers!

    • chuckula
    • 8 years ago

    You’re test benches are very impressive.. but can they fight? (I think the answer is yes)

      • torquer
      • 8 years ago

      Your knowledge of contractions does not impress Krogoth.

        • chuckula
        • 8 years ago

        Contractions Consmackshions. Your just jealous that you’re post isn’t more better then mine. πŸ˜‰

      • mac_h8r1
      • 8 years ago

      The real question is will it blend?

    • indeego
    • 8 years ago

    Man convert all your optical to USB keys… Talk about time savings…

      • ludi
      • 8 years ago

      Why can’t they use both? It’s not like the optical drive precludes all of the USB ports, and sometimes you need the optical drive.

      • Theolendras
      • 8 years ago

      Except for the hours required to do so…

      • cygnus1
      • 8 years ago

      This. I don’t how much software you really end up loading from optical, but loading your OS from USB or PXE is much faster. And all your benchmarking software would probably be much more quickly loaded and better organized from a network share.

      WDS is really simple to setup on a 2008 R2 server and your image can include all your common tools and you could do different images for different benchmark suites (storage, CPU, GPU, etc). And a TechNet membership to get all the software you need for running your ‘lab’ is only $250 a year.

      EDIT: I’d be happy to help set it up when I get back from Afghanistan if you’d want.

    • Farting Bob
    • 8 years ago

    That is a very sexy photo Scott!

    Can you tell us what youve got lined up next week for reviews, anything exciting?

      • Damage
      • 8 years ago

      We’re going to give away one of those MSI open-air cases. Also, one of the mobos pictured there will be reviewed, along with some others.

        • adisor19
        • 8 years ago

        Too bad Quebec won’t be part of that giveaway πŸ™

        Adi

          • Farting Bob
          • 8 years ago

          At least you get some love on US-site giveaways. Try living in Europe! We get nothing!

            • TheBulletMagnet
            • 8 years ago

            Umm, universal healthcare, more social safety nets, better worker’s rights… I can go on.

          • d0g_p00p
          • 8 years ago

          why do you care anyway you are a mac user. it’s not like you can use the test bench or motherboard.

            • adisor19
            • 8 years ago

            That’s some nice stereotyping you got going on.. I should perhaps remind you that my current Macintosh is in fact a hackintosh πŸ™‚

            Adi

            • Fighterpilot
            • 8 years ago

            1.All stereotypes are true.
            2.The RDF is permanently crippled and it’s acolytes are awaiting assimilation by Microborg.

          • Left_SHifted
          • 8 years ago

          Try living in Pakistan πŸ˜›

          I’ve had someone bring me an SSD from the US, they are priced so high here due to the novelty factor πŸ™

            • jpostel
            • 8 years ago

            Just curious… Can you get retailers from Europe to ship to Pakistan? I bet you could get something shipped from Hong Kong or Taiwan.

            I ask because I have ordered stuff from Europe or Hong Kong, when it was not available in the US, but I have never had any issues with shipping.

            • willmore
            • 8 years ago

            “Hey, dude, could you stop by Fry’s and pick me up an SSD and ship it here? I’ll paypal you the money.”

            “Consider it done, want some vodka to go with that?”

            “Funny, man, very funny.”

            • Left_SHifted
            • 8 years ago

            @willmore [url<]http://www.murreebrewery.com/[/url<] we probably have better vodka here, and importing one without a license would get confiscated at customs anyways.

            • Left_SHifted
            • 8 years ago

            South East Asia, yes, haven’t tried Europe, basically pakistan figures in the MEA region, and as most OEMs have some kind of sales and distribution hub in dubai for the rest of MEA, and getting stuff from dubai is almost like free shipping so I can get most stuff in from dubai.

            The deal with SSDs is that they are not widely used or understood by retailers here, and the enthusiasts who use them are plunked into the enterprise users category, hence the novelty prices

    • dpaus
    • 8 years ago

    Are those blue-and-red-and-grey cubes the new model of “Mr Fusion” power supplies?

      • DPete27
      • 8 years ago

      ?…Not sure what you’re seeing, but the only blue/red/greyish cubes I see are Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU coolers.

      Ed. The only PSU I see is down at the far end and looks like some sort of Corsair Builder Series model.

        • superjawes
        • 8 years ago

        Glad I’m not the only one confused by that comment…

          • jensend
          • 8 years ago

          Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical.

          (Saavik, Wrath of Khan)

      • tu2thepoo
      • 8 years ago

      [url<]http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Fusion[/url<]

      • jpostel
      • 8 years ago

      Must be… the old ones looked like blender/juicers.

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