Sunday Shortbread

Eight is Enough

  1. AllThingsD: Apple’s “Samsung Didn’t Copy Us” ad campaign postponed
  2. ZDNet: Is Valve’s Linux gamble over Windows 8 a shot in the dark?
  3. LinuxBSDos.com: $49 Android PC’s ROM, kernel, and bootloader released
  4. CBR: Intel, Google revamping Android 4.1 for Atom-powered devices
  5. C|Net: Is Google headed toward an Android Nexus PC?
  6. TechCrunch: Let’s not get too excited about Google Fiber… yet
  7. Engadget: Is hp showing the Slate 8 in its latest commercial?
  8. Zuckerberg: Facebook phone ‘wouldn’t make much sense‘ – LA Times


Sunday

  1. Leaked RIAA report: SOPA / PIPA “ineffective

    tool” against music piracy – TorrentFreak

  2. Skype’s Big Blog: What does Skype’s architecture do?
  3. The Raw Story: NSA director shows up at hacker conference to recruit talent
  4. WSJ: Apple, Google line up to bid for Kodak’s patents
  5. InfoWorld: Can open source save hp?
  6. TechCrunch on a unique view inside an hp laptop assembly line
  7. Engadget: MSI outs new CR41 notebook
  8. Apple’s Labor Day TV ad
  9. NCIX and Newegg have weekend deals

Mobile

  1. Engadget: Google posts Android 4.1 Jelly Bean images for Nexus devices
  2. The Huffington Post: iPhone prototypes that never left Apple’s lab
  3. Engadget’s AT&T Garnet Red Galaxy S III hands-on

Software and gaming

  1. Microsoft: Windows 8 team makes new builds every day – Neowin
  2. MCV: Retail wants 249.99 Wii U… but lower price could surprise trade
  3. PSX Extreme: Work on GT6 began “immediately after” GT5 was complete
  4. KitGuru’s The Amazing Spider-Man review (PS3)
  5. Techreaction’s End of Nations beta key giveaway

Hardware

  1. Tech ARP’s BIOS option of the week – display card priority
  2. X-bit labs post Kingston SSDs roundup
  3. PCPer’s HTPC perspective: Get excited about CableCARDs and tuners
  4. TestFreaks review Diablotek Abyss white case
  5. NikKTech’s Cadence Josh Chadwick watch review
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    • Welch
    • 7 years ago

    Leaked RIAA report: SOPA / PIPA “ineffective
    tool” against music piracy – TorrentFreak

    “These illicit sites are among the culprits behind the music industry’s more than 50 percent decline in revenues during the last decade, resulting in 15,000 layoffs and fewer resources to invest in new bands,” wrote RIAA CEO Cary Sherman in a New York Times piece last year.”

    That’s the opening line for the article. Now does anyone else see the issue with this comment? The last decade when regarding music has spawned alternatives to pirating music. AOL radio and others like it, Pandora, more recently I<3Radio (ya i know, its not how you type it). So the 50% decline can’t begin to ONLY be blamed on torrents or other music piracy (or piracy at all). Then you have the overwhelming success of small start up groups and their ability to record music at home with near professional quality for DIRT cheap. They have a venue to find fans (Social Networking and Youtube), web space and other things that previously cost 1000’s for a start up can be done virtually free. Hell bands today can do things like Kick Starter in order to raise funds, a lot of them find their way like this. There is also the fact that “reality” shows focusing on music have spawned all over different networks, causing new artists to be added to the pool of existing musical super stars.

    So when you look at it…. The content is offered legitimately for free and readily available, there is more competition in the music industry now, there are so many more people on this planet than there were 20+ years ago and of course that means more musicians and bands, and going it alone is a realistic option without a major label at first… being found is so much easier than it ever way, just watch youtube videos :P.

    I’m sick and tired of these organizations spitting out useless numbers that don’t correlate to anything, and attempting to validate their existence. Sounds like a good reason to start a website that picks apart fool groups like these and their uneducated comments. Just stating a drop in 1 number does not automatically associated it with any cause.

      • dpaus
      • 7 years ago

      [quote<]Sounds like a good reason to start a website that picks apart fool groups like these and their uneducated comments[/quote<] [url=http://www.techdirt.com<]Already done[/url<]. Enjoy, I do.

        • BobbinThreadbare
        • 7 years ago

        Thanks for the new bookmark.

        They have an internal study showing that [url=http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120726/20131119853/riaa-knows-tried-to-hide-that-most-unpaid-music-acquisition-comes-offline-swapping.shtml<]p2p sharing[/url<] is only a small part of music sharing.

    • Deanjo
    • 7 years ago

    Not a new story but I thought I would share. Yesterday the local linux group setup an expo of sorts at a bus stop at the university. In there we had just random people come by and check out the latest in in operating systems. We had OS X, linux gnome, linux kde, linux unity, and windows 8 on display. We misbranded the linux installations to say they were windows. A whopping 85% gravitated to linux kde, next in line was OS X @ 7% with Win 8 placing dead last with .8% saying that would be their desktop of choice.

    Edited for punctuation

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      Thumbed down for providing real life figures FTW!

        • derFunkenstein
        • 7 years ago

        It’s a pretty useless story about intentionally misleading people

          • Deanjo
          • 7 years ago

          Renaming the linux options was to minimize the “OMG it’z windoz so it’s the bestez” factor and have them focus on the desktops merits instead of brand.

        • cegras
        • 7 years ago

        And why didn’t you include Windows 7 again?

          • NeelyCam
          • 7 years ago

          ^ This. Although the answer is clear; they wanted Linux to win.

        • chuckula
        • 7 years ago

        How dare you use facts to intrude on our fanboi opinions!

        More seriously though, I think your study does show the power of marketing on Joe Schmoe consumer (even a college educated Joe Schmoe). The Windows brand has a large subconscious pull and if you label something as “Windows” even though it’s not, I wouldn’t be surprised to see people react as if it is “better” even though they would react less positively to the exact same setup minus the “Windows” label. Of course, OS X has its own marketing clout as well.

        P.S. –> Did anybody at the bus stop see through the ruse and call you out? How did those people react to the different setups?

          • Deanjo
          • 7 years ago

          Ya the linux faithful knew exactly what was what.

      • albundy
      • 7 years ago

      thumbs up for osx suckage and cus others were giving thumbs down. just like the pepsi challenge!

      • yogibbear
      • 7 years ago

      To make it fair, you should have labelled them Windows Beta – A, B, C, etc.

      Then you would’ve gotten the Mac using complaining that OSX was crap and that his Mac at home had a better OS…. 😀

      • BobbinThreadbare
      • 7 years ago

      Interesting. KDE is the prettiest desktop out there, but it can be kind of quirky.

    • blastdoor
    • 7 years ago

    “Zuckerberg: Facebook phone ‘wouldn’t make much sense’ – LA Times”

    Smart guy. Knowing what NOT to do is huge.

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      Like offering an IPO?

        • BobbinThreadbare
        • 7 years ago

        That made perfect sense from Zuckerberg’s pov.

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      hooray! Zuckerberg just got promoted to Captain Obvious.

      That guy is money smart, and he might be the face of facebook, but he surely is not the brain.

    • Arag0n
    • 7 years ago

    Valve for Linux is such a stupid move… Windows8 in desktop will be just as free to use as Windows7… they are just worried about the lose of revenue they can experience by users buying some of those games, specially the ones that do not benefit from Steam services from the Windows Store. I believe most of games won´t be a “metro app”, so most of games will keep being able to be installed by Steam as they always have been. Metro games, that´s what worries steam. What if some developers start to develop games as plants vs zombies for Metro instead of desktop to get x86/ARM compatibility? What can valve do if XBOX Live becomes an easy to use social network and cloud service for games?

    Same could be said for blizzard. They don´t want users unplugged from Battle.net…. if users expect their “Windows8” user to be their default XBOX Live account as it´s the fact for most apple iOS players with “game center”, people won´t want SC2 or any blizzard game to request battle.net accounts.

    I believe we are hearing 2 dinosaurs from a time that Windows used to have nothing to help users to get approved and safe apps and games that don´t really know how to evolve and take a chance from the opportunities that windows 8 arise. I don´t remember valve complaining about OSX getting the Mac Store and seeing games as Civilization V or others start to be available through the Mac Store and integrate Game Center.

    Now, Windows 8 will make easy for game developers to use skydrive to save games, games are local so no need to “download/upload” waiting times but at the same time, the OS takes care to upload/download the files in the background while you don´t play, and use XBOX Live to handle friends-list and scoreboards. As gamer, I can´t see that as a bad thing for customers.

      • heinsj24
      • 7 years ago

      I disagree.

      How many of us maintain a Windows machine or partition for the sole reason of playing games? I’m sure the number is more than 1.

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        Come on, don´t expect that just because Valve develops some games for linux every single company in the world will do the same. Just as every game is not for OSX no matter how long valve does support mac osx with steam.

          • heinsj24
          • 7 years ago

          Of course not.

          But I hope with Valve becoming interested in Linux – it gets easier to run Steam version of games under WINE. This would be a boon not just to Linux users, but OSX user as well. For example, stand-alone Skyrim support is rated Gold under WINE while Steam’s version of Skyrim is Bronze; Borderlands (DVD) is Platinum, Borderlands (Steam) is Silver. The games should be identical, but when wrapped by Steam things break.

        • Lans
        • 7 years ago

        You can make that 2 then but is more than 1 same as “enough to be worth the effort/time”? That is the real question… From market share data, I must say not many? So probably not. And how many Linux users actually play games? Would play Valve games? The pie just gets smaller and smaller!

        So I think Valve needs Windows only people to dual boot or switch over to Linux (much more far fetched). Dual boot doesn’t seem that troublesome to me so one could hope that if there were compelling games for Linux only then more people will go that route.

      • Shouefref
      • 7 years ago

      I remember the days when you could buy a Windows licence and put it on all of your computers, which was very handy after a hd crash.
      Then came activation code.
      Don’t tell me that was better.

      I also remember the day when ou could buy an Office and put it on all of your computers, which was very handy after a hd crash.
      Then came activation code.
      Don’t tell me that was better.

      MS has gradually been restricting the users more and more.

      And you know what?
      It are not the software pirates who are the victims, but the regular buyers.

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        You have to agree that at that time, it was impossible to require users to activate their windows system. Given the chance for activation since the beginning, windows would have required it from the start.

        I agree windows may be becoming more restricted anyways, but isn´t the same with OSX? Linux may be the only one is not, but I don´t see how it helped linux gain anyshare since 1990…

          • blastdoor
          • 7 years ago

          I haven’t used windows for my main machine since 2006, but if things are the same now as they were then in terms of activation etc, then I would say that OSX is way, way better.

          My recent experience upgrading to mountain lion is pretty representative of how things are on OSX these days, especially for Mac app store apps. I went to the app store, paid my $20 for ML, downloaded, installed. Then I went to the other Mac I own, opened the app store app, saw that it already knew I own ML, so I downloaded and installed.

          I think that with iTunes and again with their app store, apple has threaded the needle better than anyone else in terms of discouraging casual piracy with minimum inconvenience for users.

          • Deanjo
          • 7 years ago

          [quote<]I agree windows may be becoming more restricted anyways, but isn´t the same with OSX? [/quote<] Nope. No cd or license check. OS X goes on a honor system. Even if you did the "honorable" thing and bought a family pack it is still cheaper then the typical windows upgrade,

        • sweatshopking
        • 7 years ago

        what? because they have activation codes, suddenly they’re “restricting the users”? EVERYONE has activation codes, except apple (doesn’t need them, as it’s locked to the apple machine) and linux (obvious).

        singling out MS is just silly.

        • Lans
        • 7 years ago

        Well, you were able to install Windows on as many machines as you wanted before activation code was introduced but… If you had a single license then you were supposed to using one machine at a time. You were never legally able to use multiple copies of Windows without the corresponding number of licenses.

        What annoys me with activation code is it forces me to go through Microsoft if I wanted to upgrade or replace my computer entirely but without buying a new copy of Windows. But still, it only enforces what many seem to have ignored.

        EDIT: Typo

          • Deanjo
          • 7 years ago

          What annoys the f*** out of me is that I have had way too many times where Windows has told me “this is not a legitimate” installation of Windows despite having legally bought the OS. I can pretty much set the clock with every 3 months windows telling me to re-authorize my in place upgrades to 7 pro.

      • ET3D
      • 7 years ago

      I agree with a lot of what you say, and the logical conclusion is that going the Linux way is the smart thing for Valve to do. What would you want Valve to do, accept the losses and do nothing about them? Linux offers an untapped market with gamers which proved they’re willing to pay quite a bit of money for games (see the Humble Bundles and Kickstarter project for examples). Steam and Valve games for Linux will also make Linux itself more attractive. Everyone (Valve and Linux users) wins.

        • HisDivineOrder
        • 7 years ago

        Especially when there are no other major gaming platforms available on Linux. Steam is the leader on the other fronts, but with Linux they’ll be the only game in town.

          • deathBOB
          • 7 years ago

          Is worth it to be the only game in a small town?

            • Arag0n
            • 7 years ago

            Sometimes it’s… it depends your popularity. If you are a minor developer trying to sell some app or game, you may find more success in a small town than trying to compete in a big city where a major player already gets all the attention. But in this case, Steam is the major player in the big city, so they need a major shift to Linux if they expect to benefit from that move.

        • Deanjo
        • 7 years ago

        Don’t use humble bundles as a benchmark. Pay what you want and pay what we ask are two entirely different things.

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        Yeah, we may agree that valve’s move to Linux is the correct one. They see a thread from Windows Store to their revenue so they want to push a platform were they may become the ruler as they are now on Windows.

        I’m just saying that it’s blind to think that they have a point about their complains. Windows 8 is not a catastrophe, actually, it makes Windows more game friendly since it makes “casual games” much more accessible for most of people.

        I don’t think hardcore gamers will drop the desktop neither the desktop version of steam. I’m a user of steam myself! I have bought several games from Steam and I don’t plan to stop using their services. I’m writing this from a Windows 8 machine with Steam setup and Steam games working nice with no issues!

        But they are playing stupid with their affirmations. It’s similar to when Adobe tried to say that the iPhone was going to fail because Safari for iPhone didn’t support Flash. The point was, Adobe was threatened by the success of the iPhone and the web potentially moving to HTML5 and pluging-free.

      • willmore
      • 7 years ago

      My main machine as well as all of my infrastructure has been Linux for at least a decade. My wife’s laptop is windows and I have a windows desktop that I only use for gaming. So, +1 to you.

      I could haved said that my main machine was linux going back to ’94, but I had a brief spell with WinNT in the late 90’s.

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      I’m shocked, I never would have figured you for the troll.

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        I’m not trolling, I’m just pointing what people seems to not want to see. Valve and Blizzard are worried about their revenue so they are bashing Windows 8… it has nothing to do with Windows 8 itself, and everything to do with the fact they see Windows 8 as a threat. Steam for desktop works pretty good on Windows 8. I could say better than on Windows 7 given that Steam relies a lot in IE rendering engine and Windows 8 uses IE10.

        So I can tell you, Steam works as great on Windows 8 as it does in Windows 7. Their main reason to talk bad about Windows 8 is because they worry about losing revenue. Steam is much better game service right now than Windows Store, but still, people may start to use Windows Store just because they already have an account and steam may lose some revenue specially from “casual gamers”. I don’t know the proportion between casual and hardcore gamers in steam, I think we may be able to do an estimation from how many players use Intel graphics (~11% now), and that’s what Valve is worried to lose.

        It has nothing to do with the capabilities of Windows 8 as gaming system, it has nothing to do with Windows 8 not allowing desktop apps as Steam to work. It has nothing to do with Windows 8 making Steam games broken, it has nothing to do with any technical thing.

        They are just worried about losing some users once Windows 8 starts selling, especially if plenty windows users move from the traditional x86/desktop to Windows RT/Tablet. But I don’t see how it would be different for steam if those users decided to get an iPad or an Android tablet….

          • destroy.all.monsters
          • 7 years ago

          Do you know how consumers “win”? By dividing and conquering. We allow MS and Google to dominate their prospective fields for our own reasons. We allow Apple to have a market because some people prefer to have a technological version of a snuggie surrounding them rather than learn even a bare minimum of technical knowledge.

          What we don’t want is a single monolithic entity owning everything (unless you’re an Apple acolyte). Nor is there room for another company to emulate Apple.

          I’m going to guess that english isn’t your first language but regardless your concerns and points are entirely surface level and don’t seem to grasp what many of us find obvious.

            • Arag0n
            • 7 years ago

            I don’t know most, but in your case what you see its a conspiracy theory from Microsoft to cross the ecosystem and get more benefits from Windows. Microsoft will close as much as he knows he can close. Apple is closer to fully close OSX since some API’s are starting to be “Mac Store Only”, that means that in the future once some vital API’s for game developer become “Mac Store Only” games won’t be distributable from Steam.

            Steam knows that, and that’s why they want to move to Linux as prime ecosystem and not OSX, despite Linux having almost no share comparing to OSX.

            Microsoft knows the problems Apple is facing because trying to close the ecosystem too much, and that’s why you can see the Windows Phone moved from a platform more closed than the iPhone in WP7.5 to a platform somehow between Apple and Android with WP8.

            That’s what we can expect from Microsoft, but still, it will mean that steam will lose some revenue and ultimately, a threat to Steam business model.

            Steam has right and it’s understandable that they want to avoid becoming meaningless just as some companies did in the past. One example might be antivirus companies use to be a good business, and then Microsoft Live Essentials for free made their business harder.

            Some antivirus like 360 are mostly malware, they protect you from other peoples malware and virus, but 360 itself collects stats from your computer usage to sell to third party customers. Why should a user get that antivirus if he has a better option for free also?

            Really, I see you points, I see the system getting more closed but I don’t expect Microsoft to fully close it. That’s were I don’t agree with you. Steam needs to change their business model a bit to be able to adapt to Windows 8. They need to deliver some SDK for “metro games” so games developed with steam in mind can keep using steam even if they are sold via Windows store. Steam might need to develop some metro apps also.

            Actually, steam has the chance to improve service using a metro app for chat that can be 1/4 bar in my screen so I can keep the chat open without leaving the game neither covering the game screen as steam does now.

            Steam has more to improve using Windows8 good points than to lose, but still, I can see why they see Windows 8 as a threat. However, I can’t see how it can be a threat to you, normal user. Even if steam disappears as standalone app, some other people will carry over as a multiplatform cloud service for games and hardcore games could be sold via the Windows Store. An example of that is the iOS store, tell me what iOS users miss from Steam. Games are installed with just a single action, updates are painless and iOS games are free to use any cloud gaming platform they want to.

            That’s what you should see, steam is afraid of losing revenue and is trying to use you, as a user, to push Microsoft from doing what they dislike. They want to make you believe you will lose something that actually you won’t.

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            Because it is not a world that I want to live in. It is far better that these companies force along an improved Win 9 or move to Linux than to play ball with MS on this.

            A windows store – and copying the user experience from a mobile device to a desktop is prima facie unacceptable.

            If you can show me how I can play Half Life 2 in an enjoyable way on a tablet I’ll still want to see what’s inside your medicine cabinet but I’ll listen to what you have to say. Until that time any fundamental change that does not directly enhance my experience is a negative.

            The desktop and mobile devices user experience should not be the same.

            I am happy to be used by Valve in the way you mention because I am using them to push back against MS – as I stated in my other post.

            On a final note – and I’m repeating myself here – the things you mention as positives would only affect casual gamers and no one else. A demographic I am not a part of and couldn’t care less about.

            • Arag0n
            • 7 years ago

            I’m sure most of benefits are for casual gamers, but as I told you right now, there is nothing in windows 8 stopping you to use steam as you ever had. So I can’t see what’s the drawback for you.

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            You can’t see it because you’re deliberately being obtuse.

            You take a very small issue “nothing is keeping you from using Steam in Win 8 *right now* ” – and trying to claim it’s a larger issue than the much more meta issues brought forward in this thread.

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      “As gamer, I can´t see that as a bad thing for customers.” then you are blind.

      The issue:

      You can buy civilization on steam, and other stores.
      Apple didn’t force the sale of OSX app to only be sold via their store (yet) ,
      Apple just **added** an option for users to choose from.

      So Vavle didn’t cry because they cant take on competition, they will invest in making Steam the preferred choice for gaming on OSX.

      But with Metro you can only buy a Metro game via the MS app store, thats it.
      Microsoft just killed all the competing online distribution.
      Do you grasp the difference ?

      Do you graps what happen when all those method are gone as a gamer?
      Did you buy any game on steam during a sale event? took advantage of some Amazon deals?
      And their is a few other place where people like to buy their games.. all that is gone under windows8 metro. (What ms is pushing down our throat by forcing all desktop user to use this fastfood ordering station replacement)

      So what do we want more off? specially when, so far, the steam store experience for games DESTROYS, the metro app store.

      And if you think the metro + its app store + xbox live account is better than Steam, then sir, you are not a PC gamer. Dont speak for us.

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        Apple started to add API’s that won’t let game developers use iCloud for games if the game is not sold via the Mac Store. That might be a minus, since Steam still has their own cloud service, but what happens when you can’t have Notifications neither? I believe some games may benefit a lot from notifications.

        I agree Steam has somehow a superior game store right now, but as I said, I don’t think games will be “metro apps”, so no, games won’t be pushed to be “windows store only” distribution. Games can live as desktop apps at Windows Store and still be available for Steam.

        I’m serious, I don’t see any scenario were a game is pushed to use XBLive or SkyDrive for cloud services but I do see many game developers that right now do not develop for PC because costs are higher than for iOS coming to the Windows Store, and those games may benefit from an integrated cloud service as XBL just as iOS devices do from Game Center.

        You may tell me that Game Center is inferior to OpenFeint or any other cloud service, but remember, games are still free to use 3rd party online services. I believe that Windows Store will be the same. Given a steam library for metro games, game developers may be able to use steam as cloud service. This may help to popularize steam worldwide and get new users to the desktop version of steam and at the same time, give more users and sales to steam.

        Really, I do see what all you see, but the thing everyone seems to want to ignore is,

        NO ONE IS AVOIDING YOU TO KEEP DOING WHAT YOU WERE DOING TILL NOW.

        No matter if you choose to stay on Windows 7, or you move to Windows 8 and you use the metro as a glorified start menu, you will be able to keep having the same Windows experience you ever had. That’s why I can’t accept Valve or Blizzard complaining about Windows 8. Users will be the ones that choose if they want to start buying games from Windows Store or they just keep buying from Steam… and developers will be the ones that choose if they want their games to be developed as normal desktop games to be available on Steam, develop two versions one normal desktop for Steam and a Metro for Windows Store or just one version for Windows Store.

        The Windows Store increases the choices and doesn’t limit any.

        If Windows 8 made impossible for Steam games to be setup and played, I would say different. But that’s not the case. Everything that Windows8 provides is optional for developers and gamers. The only non-optional thing is to use metro as a glorified start screen.

          • destroy.all.monsters
          • 7 years ago

          Can’t tell if you’re being deliberately dense or what. MS is making moves to close their eco-system. They’re doing a combination of forcing Metro upon us – and testing the waters to see if they can close it the way Apple has.

          None of these so-called benefits help anyone that isn’t merely a casual gamer (which isn’t someone I’d consider a gamer at all. Most people play casual games).

          Your arguments are superficial and poorly thought out.

      • JohnC
      • 7 years ago

      In other words, “choice is always bad, Microsoft trying to force eveyone to use their own inferior (they could never get their “GFWL” service to function in a proper way) service so they (and only they) can always dictate the prices of every Metro-enabled game is unquestionably good”? Got it, thanks! Just funny how many words you had to waste to say such simple thing…

      • designerfx
      • 7 years ago

      official steam support on linux is the only thing stopping me from dropping windows altogether. So I look forward to this with enthusiasm.

      • Krogoth
      • 7 years ago

      Exactly.

      As I have reiterated many times before.

      Windows 8 is not meant for the traditional desktop market. It is meant for the growing portable and desktop market of tomorrow. Apple has going the same direction as well. They aren’t as forceful though. Google is trying to emerge itself as major player in the “brave new world”.

      Windows Store is just a fancy app-store front-end. The incumbents see it as a serious contender.

    • Srsly_Bro
    • 7 years ago

    VIII. Zuckerberg: Facebook phone ‘wouldn’t make much sense’ – LA Times

    Is LA Times going to publish an article with Zuckerberg saying the same about the Facebook IPO prior to going public?

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      Well… didn’t he personally got close to 2 billion in cash from doing this?
      The IPO totaly made sense for the bankers and the big share holder, how could they dump billions worth of shares otherwise. (the secondary market was there but nothing like the bankers and Zucker got the day of the IPO)

      The IPO was a great move for *HIM* , I’m sure he would do it over and over again if he could..

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