Apple confirms September 12 date for iPhone 5 event

After months of relentless speculation and countless leaks, the iPhone 5’s release date is finally official. As The Verge reports, Apple has been sending folks invites to an event scheduled for September 12 at 10 AM PDT. The venue for that event is none other than San Francisco’s Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, where Apple has unveiled a number of its past products—including the original iPad.

Anyone could guess we’re going to see the iPhone 5 debut there, but Apple’s invites make it all too obvious. They feature the text "it’s almost here" above a giant "12" with a shadow stretching out toward the viewer. The shadow of the "12" is actually a giant "5." Subtle, but hardly ambiguous.

Assuming all the leaks haven’t been clever subterfuge, the iPhone 5 is going to be taller but no wider than the existing models, with a larger screen and an aluminum back. Leaked photos suggest the device will also feature a redesigned (but still proprietary) dock connector.

According to The Verge, Apple will hold off on showing its hotly anticipated iPad Mini at the event. Instead, that device is expected to premiere at a separate event in October. We saw Bloomberg News lend weight to that particular prediction last month, and we’ve seen enough leaked images and mockups to believe the smaller iPad is indeed on the way.

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    • corwin155
    • 7 years ago

    Snooze

    • trackerben
    • 7 years ago

    Nokia needs to put out news on lower-end Lumias. The kind which could serve and are priced to be a second phone for those who carry multiple devices.

    • Beelzebubba9
    • 7 years ago

    Y’all realize that this phone will likely make more money than Microsoft will over the next year?

    Regardless whether or not you love, hate, or feel apathetic about Apple or the iPhone, this is the biggest production launch of the year by a wide margin.

    • albundy
    • 7 years ago

    iHopeSomeoneBlocksThisPhoneFromSellingLikeCrappleDidWithSamsung

    • solo_clipper
    • 7 years ago

    Nokia launched 2 new Windows Phone 8 devices today, is that not more interesting than the announcement that rumors to the announcement of the announcement are true?

      • pedro
      • 7 years ago

      No.

      /sarcasm

      • Voldenuit
      • 7 years ago

      Here is theverge’s coverage of the 820 and 920 launch:

      [url<]http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3293728/nokia-lumia-920-lumia-820-windows-phone-8-announcements[/url<] [url<]http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3293041/nokia-lumia-920-pureview-camera[/url<] [url<]http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3293146/nokia-lumia-920-hands-on-photos-video[/url<] [url<]http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3293133/nokia-lumia-820-hands-on-photos-video[/url<] Pros: Nice hardware, 720p display, NFC, wireless charging, 2000 mAH battery, OIS on 920 Cons: [url=http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/<]No microSD[/url<]* (unlike samsung and htc's WP8 phones), "only" 8 MP, LED flash, no oversize sensor Overall, they look like very solid products, but the 920 is not the cameraphone I (and many other camera enthusiasts) was waiting for. I might end up picking up an unlocked 808 sometime down the road. I do think that the 920 is a better product for the mass market - blurry indoor shots are a bigger problem for the general populace than being able to pixel bin images. Just not what I was hoping for (and yes, the 808 is very much a niche product, so I fully understand why nokia isn't trying to cater to the photographer niche with the 920. Maybe down the road, but for now, the smart play is to concentrate on growing WP8 adoption, and that means selling it to the typical user). * EDIT: Turns out the [url=http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_820_announced_too_packs_43inch_amoled-news-4761.php<]820 has MicroSD support[/url<], but not the 920. Obviously Nokia is competing in the World Trampoline Federation.

        • NeelyCam
        • 7 years ago

        Didn’t Mr. Elop himself say that dual-cores are stupid and just suck the battery dry…? What changed?

        Gosh, these people say anything to get (re-)elected

          • Voldenuit
          • 7 years ago

          I stopped listening to Elop since, well, forever.

          Then again, WP7/8 hardware choices are not fully in the hands of the handset manufacturers, since MS has strict hardware requirements (for better or for worse).

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            Here’s another one:

            Elop: “We’ll announce Lumia 920 pricing and availability in Q4”
            Stock: *CRASH*

            I guess TSMC is screwing everyone left and right

          • BobbinThreadbare
          • 7 years ago

          I personally know at least 5 people who didn’t even consider the Lumina because it didn’t have a dual core CPU.

          With every step forward, MS shoots itself in each foot.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 7 years ago

            Cool that you know 5 people who are smart enough to be aware of hardware but dumb enough to not realize there is more to a combination of hardware+software than one hardware spec.

            • BobbinThreadbare
            • 7 years ago

            Go to a phone store, they plaster the hardware specs all over the place. Anyone knows that dual > single. Had MS just let Nokia et all put dual core CPUs in their phones, I think they would have done much better even if they ran at exactly the same speed.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            I like it how you call the Lumia “Lumina” to insult 😛

          • moog
          • 7 years ago

          It’s easy to be stupid with multi cores.

          Where it makes sense it’s better if an app uses 1 core and save battery. Lumia was a good example of how good it can be with a single core.

        • Voldenuit
        • 7 years ago

        Too early to write off 920 camera? Anand did some [url=http://www.anandtech.com/show/6236/hands-on-with-the-nokia-lumia-920-lumia-820<]low light comparisons[/url<] with an iPhone 4(S?). Granted, reviewing pictures on a smartphone screen is not the best way to compare the output from two different units, but I am looking forward to more testing on the 920. It's worth pointing out that the 920's f/2.0 lens is 0.53 stops faster than the f/2.4 lens in the 808 or iPhone 4S (although it is still the equivalent of 2.5 stops smaller than the 808 in terms of sensor size). I'm still expecting an 808 to blow away the 920, although the 808's pixel pitch is smaller (1.4um) than the iPhone 4S (1.75um) and, presumably, the 920. EDIT: More 920 Pureview low light awesomeness [url<]http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/pureview-insights/[/url<]

        • trackerben
        • 7 years ago

        Nokia 920 is tempting even as a secondary purpose-fit device. Beyond its uses as a cellphone it would make for a great travel device with Nokia Drive map and satnav apps. It should be easier to mount on a rental than a tablet, where it can also act as auto media center and wireless hotspot. Out of the car it can replace a dedicated pocket camera and a 3G/4G mifi. At night in the hotel it could free a laptop from media player duties if a wireless display were made available. Once connected to an in-room LCD TV, it could even replace that laptop for light Office tasks with the use of a bluetooth keyboard. If nothing else, there are all those books and games and apps and browsing. Even does calls and messaging and contacts backup – too bad it uses only microSIMs.

        And finally, standardized wireless changing. Yes, YES.

      • chµck
      • 7 years ago

      I love nokia but their product launches just blow ass. The 920 is an exceptional piece of technology. New features (NFC/wireless charging built in), fantastic camera (i think gizmodo said nokia rocked side by side shots with the sgsIII, mind-blowing image stabilization), fantastic screen (brighter, faster), a touchscreen you can use with gloves.
      They really need a sexier person to show it off.

      • moog
      • 7 years ago

      Here is PC World’s take: [url<]http://tinyurl/934[/url<]

      • Decelerate
      • 7 years ago

      This is the problem with Nokia/Microsoft. They [i<]announced[/i<] products. They did [b<]not[/b<] launch them. Let's see which new product family will reach the consumer's hands first. When the competition has time to announce the announcement, make the announcement, and then release the product before Nokiasoft has its products in stores, there's a [b<]seriously serious[/b<] execution problem... I may be jumping the gun with this post, but I am willing to take the bet.

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      and their shares dived afterwards,

      [url<]http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nokia-attempts-clawback-smartphone-war-083507195--finance.html[/url<]

    • Deanjo
    • 7 years ago

    I’m more interested if the announcement will be accompanied with news of an AppleTV SDK with iOS 6.

    • BoBzeBuilder
    • 7 years ago

    Apple fanboys shaking in excitement.

    • Chrispy_
    • 7 years ago

    Putting the Apple/Android/W8 debate to one side for a minute, it’s hard to get excited about a new smartphone these days.

    With the exception of the OS, they’re all just
    [list<][*<]rectangular slabs[/*<][*<]touchscreens taking up the majority of one side[/*<][*<]volume rocker and a power button on the edges[/*<][*<]a camera on the back[/*<][/list<] What makes a phone interesting is the flavour of software - iOS, stock Android, Touchwiz, Blur, Sense, Windows etc. The hardware is dull, dull, dull, unless it's something that differs from this formula. A hardware keyboard or unusual OEM accessories or anything other than a traditional touchscreen slabphone. ....

      • A_Pickle
      • 7 years ago

      The things I’m getting excited about in phones are screen resolution, battery life, and sensors. The Galaxy S III has a barometric pressure sensor. 😀

        • Chrispy_
        • 7 years ago

        Yeah, sensors can be fun but they’re rarely high quality within the tight constraints of a smartphone. I went through three Galaxy SII’s before I had one where the calibrated compass and the GPS ever agreed on which way north was. I settled for one that thinks I permanently drift my bike around London with the tail out at 15 degrees or so.

        Additionally, the ambient brightness sensor on my Moto Defy+ was schizophrenic in the most extreme sense of the word; Pshychadellically schizophrenic with added epilepsy for good measure :\

        Anyway, where’s my phone that has a stock market crash sensor? I’ll take two.

    • Anonymous Coward
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]the iPhone 5 is going to be taller but no wider than the existing models[/quote<] Awesome, I just patented that!

    • yogibbear
    • 7 years ago

    Can we get this over with already? We all know it’s going to be a big flop, sell a bazillion copies, and basically be a copy of the galaxy III…. minus customisation, any sense of ownership and the right to use one while wearing a wifebeater.

    • tviceman
    • 7 years ago

    It is nice to be not caught up and emotionally dependent upon any company’s PR fluff, let alone Apple.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 7 years ago

    Ah, the announcement of the announcement. There had been rumors to the announcement of the announcement, and what ramifications that could have, but now it’s good to see the rumors are true.

      • alphacheez
      • 7 years ago

      It’s a bit crazy for the tech journalists who want to be there; most had already bought tickets to be in SF next week just based on the rumors. It’d be a lot nicer if Apple would just actually let people know at least a month in advance when they’ll be holding the event.

        • indeego
        • 7 years ago

        [quote<]It'd be a lot nicer if Apple [/quote<] You can stop right there. Anything you say after that phrase is irrelevant.

      • willmore
      • 7 years ago

      What ramifications the announcement might have? Or the announcement of the announcement?

        • pedro
        • 7 years ago

        The ramifications of the rumours of the announcement of the announcement.

        • derFunkenstein
        • 7 years ago

        Yes!

          • willmore
          • 7 years ago

          Damn Vorlons.

    • Kurlon
    • 7 years ago

    How does Apple get away with continuing to ignore the EU mandate that all cell phones use a standard microusb port for charging?

      • pedro
      • 7 years ago

      Good question. I’ve wondered about this myself.

      • jss21382
      • 7 years ago

      I’m guessing because it’s a docking port that allows other features usb doesn’t provide for, only thing I can think of that makes any sense.

      • JrdBeau
      • 7 years ago

      [url<]http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/10/apples-iphone-micro-usb-adapter-complies-with-eu-charger-standards/[/url<]

        • pedro
        • 7 years ago

        Cheers dude!

        • alphacheez
        • 7 years ago

        It is seriously annoying that Apple does this, my wife has an iPhone 4s and iPad 3, so the dock connector chargers are great for those, but she also has a mifi and Kindle which are micro USB. It would be considerably easier to only need one cable type even if multiple chargers are still needed.

      • Silus
      • 7 years ago

      They don’t ignore just that…they also ignore that BY LAW in the EU, product warranty is two years and not just one that Apple “offers” and then tries to force customers to adhere to their AppleCare…

      • derFunkenstein
      • 7 years ago

      Do they include an adapter in the box? Not saying that would be the right way to go about it (really, a micro USB port is the right way to do it), but that might help them thumb their noses at the EU.

        • kyboshed
        • 7 years ago

        Yes, [url=http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MD099ZM/A/apple-iphone-micro-usb-adapter<]one of these[/url<] is included with the iPhone 4S

          • derFunkenstein
          • 7 years ago

          That at least explains it. I feel like they’re thumbing their nose at the EU, but it probably explains it.

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      The EU standard does NOT mandate that the cell phones have a microusb port on them for charging. It mandates that [b<]chargers[/b<] must have a microUSB connection available with it either built in or by adapter. Phones can still have a propriatary connector.

    • blastdoor
    • 7 years ago

    I am very curious to see if they include a new quad core A6, or if they stick with a die shrunk A5.

    Unless iOS 6 includes features that really take advantage of two extra cores, I think it would make more sense to stick with a die-shrunk A5. The A5 would clearly be better for battery life and cost.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 7 years ago

      New CPUs have been part of the iPad launches so far. That’s where dual-core first showed up, so that’s where I expect quad-core CPUs or Cortex A15 designs to pop up first.

      • alphacheez
      • 7 years ago

      My guess would be it will be some variation on the A5x, shrunk down on Samsung’s 32 nm LP process. They already use that process for the more recent iPad2 SoC. Anandtech did some investigating and found that it offers very good power savings over Samsung previous 45 nm process which is currently used for the A5x in the iPad 3.

        • tay
        • 7 years ago

        No. An A5x is not suitable for a phone since too much die area is dedicated to doubling the GPU throughput. An iphone has less than half the pixels of the ipad.

        A higher frequency A5 with a slightly faster GPU is what I’m expecting. I doubt it’ll be a Cortex A15, as others have mentioned above, that will likely show up with the iPad in 2013 first. No one else has an A15 based part yet either.

          • Kurlon
          • 7 years ago

          Ti is shipping A15s already IIRC.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 7 years ago

          The A5x may be necessary if they want to keep a 300+ DPI display and make it bigger at the same time.

            • blastdoor
            • 7 years ago

            it’s not *that* much bigger (horizontal is the same, slight increase in vertical to reach a 16:9 aspect ratio, at least that’s the rumor), and the original A5 was already a bit overkill for the iPhone with respect to GPU. A5X would be ridonculous.

            Going forward, I wonder if the naming convention on Apple SOCs will be AnX for the iPad and An for the iPhone, since the iPad will always need a much beefier GPU than the iPhone.

            I wonder if we’ll see the following:

            iPhone 5 — die-shrunk A5, maybe higher clock speed (Fall 2012)
            iPad 4 — die-shrunk A5X, maybe higher clock speed (Spring 2013)
            iPhone 6 — A6, dual core A15 (or similar) (Fall 2013)
            iPad 5 — A6X, an A6 with bigger GPU (Spring 2014)

            • derFunkenstein
            • 7 years ago

            Yeah, I guess that’s probably true. We’re probably looking at nothing bigger than 1280×768, and if the new one is no wider and only taller, then probably more like 1024×640 or [does the math] 1133×640 for 16:9. Or 1280×720.

          • brucethemoose
          • 7 years ago

          Qualcomm’s S4 is basically an A15, and it’s been on shelves for awhile.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            You mean it’s been running out of stock for a while..?

            • brucethemoose
            • 7 years ago

            Everything on 28nm has been (though I’m surprised I see so many Galaxy S3s everywhere).

            32nm is just fine though.

        • Beelzebubba9
        • 7 years ago

        I think the A5X would be a bit of a waste – even at 32nm it’d be a pretty massive chip with way more GPU resources than the iPhone 5’s relatively low res screen would have use for.

        My money is on a 32nm, up clocked, A5 variant.

      • NeelyCam
      • 7 years ago

      I vote for A5 shrink (the one in the “new” iPad2)

    • Jigar
    • 7 years ago

    So, 11th September night is camping night for Apple fanboys out side Apple shops

      • jss21382
      • 7 years ago

      nah….the 12th is just the announcement, sale date is probably give or take a week later.

        • Jigar
        • 7 years ago

        Dam! I thought it would be available on 12th September, my bad.

          • superjawes
          • 7 years ago

          Yeah, they probably don’t NEED the hype to get lines outside of stores, but you know that they are going to. It’s part of the business model.

        • Skullzer
        • 7 years ago

        A friend of mine that works at a retail AT&T wireless says they have a block on vacation requests for weekend of sept 21st..

    • Decelerate
    • 7 years ago

    The pressure is on them to deliver something the tech world hasn’t yet seen, considering the amount of leaks evolving around the product, and deliver something more memorable than just [i<]the new iPhone[/i<] in the ocean of this September's announcement events. Or else they'll just be the mammoth in the room, and we all know what happened to mammoths... Also, the invitation was explicit, which is kinda sad, as subtle and ambiguous was Apple's trademark for invitations

    • pedro
    • 7 years ago

    Oh wow! I’d heard some rumours they were releasing this thing.

      • NeelyCam
      • 7 years ago

      You mean releasing this announcement?

    • ronch
    • 7 years ago

    Apple fanbois… line up!

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