Thursday Shortbread

Eight is Enough

  1. The Raw Story: Hackers allegedly holding Romney tax returns for ransom
  2. DigiTimes: Intel to promote Haswell platform at IDF San Francisco
  3. Reuters: Oracle to continue Itanium server support for hp
  4. X-bit labs: TSMC to start 450mm production in 2018 – company and

    Intel Xeon Phi to power new petascale supercomputer at National

    Renewable Energy Laboratory

  5. VR-Zone: World’s fastest phone from LG hosts Qualcomm’s next-gen quad-core chip
  6. NPD: Total number of U.S. video game players drops
  7. Doom III BFG Edition FAQ
  8. RisingStorm gameplay reveal (Red Orchestra 2 expansion)


Thursday

  1. Apple: We didn’t give FBI any device IDs – AllThingsD
  2. BBC News: Bitcoin theft causes Bitfloor exchange to go offline
  3. WD ships new slim and sleek family of portable hard drives
  4. HotHardware and PC Perspective‘s podcasts
  5. Biostar joint contest @ NikKTech

Mobile

  1. Forbes: Google’s Motorola division launches

    phones with Qualcomm. What about Intel?

  2. The Verge’s exclusive: Nokia planning Zune-like 4.3″

    ‘Zeal’ Windows Phone 8 device, due early 2013

  3. CowcotLand reviews Acer Iconia A510 (in French)

Software and gaming

  1. How to shut down Windows 8
  2. VR-Zone: Wii U may launch on November 11 with 3 SKUs
  3. Diablo III developer journal: Crowd control changes
  4. VG24/7 on Call of Juarez: Teaser images points to new game reveal
  5. VR-Zone: Angry Birds developer to release Bad Piggies game this month
  6. TechSpot interviews 2Dawn Games on its upcoming

    shooter ‘Ravaged’ and life as an indie studio

  7. Games On Net’s Guild Wars 2 WvW guide

Systems and storage

  1. ProClockers review ASRock Z77 OC Formula
  2. HardwareOC reviews Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe (in German)
  3. ocaholic reviews 8GB Kingston HyperX

    DDR3-1600MHz CL9 1.35v memory kit

  4. X-bit labs’ Buffalo MiniStation Thunderbolt HD-PATU3 review
  5. Hardware Canucks review 256GB Crucial V4 SSD
  6. The SSD Review on 240GB Silicon Power Velox V70 SSD
  7. OCC’s Kingston DataTraveler Locker+ G2 USB drive review
  8. APH Networks on QNAP TS-419P II NAS

Multimedia

  1. Guru3D’s HIS HD 7970 X Turbo edition review
  2. Hardware Canucks review MSI GTX 670 Power Edition OC
  3. Tbreak reviews Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC
  4. Hardware Heaven reviews Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz FleX
  5. ProClockers review Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 low profile
  6. Hardware.Info’s Matrox DualHead2Go Digital ME

    and Matrox DualHead2Go Digital SE review

  7. KitGuru’s 24″ Philips Blade 2 HD AMVA LED monitor review
  8. Hardware.Info reviews BenQ GW2250HM,

    GW2450HM, and GW2750HM monitors

  9. TechReviewSource on 50″ Panasonic TC-P50U50 plasma TV
  10. XSReviews on Tt eSports Chao Dracco headset
  11. Neoseeker reviews Cooler Master Storm Sonuz headset
  12. Legit Reviews on Razer Naga 2012 MMO gaming mouse

Power, cases, and cooling

  1. techPowerUp! reviews FSP Aurum 92+ PSU
  2. TweakTown reviews GameTiger Xniper PR-3 case
  3. HTL reviews Rosewill R5 case
  4. circuitRemix reviews Raidmax Raptor case
  5. XtremeComputing reviews Fractal Design Define R4 case
  6. Hardware.Info reviews BitFenix Prodigy mini-ITX case
  7. ocaholic’s be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 2 review
  8. Techreaction reviews Cooler Master TPC-812
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    • HisDivineOrder
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]How to shut down Windows 8[/quote<] Just sit and ruminate on that title. Think on it. Someone had to make an article titled that. Not only is it ironic (ie., "How to shut down Windows 8 (from winning the market)."), but it's also truly pathetic that it isn't blatantly obvious how to turn the damn computer off. I always got a kick of having to "Start" to shut down, but now they've gone and just HIDDEN the damn shut down under layers and layers of obfuscation. It's like they don't actually use the OS they're trying to sell. I wonder, do they all use OS X now at MS?

    • anotherengineer
    • 7 years ago

    I wonder if HDD prices will go up again??

    [url<]http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/storm_watch_stories3&stormfile=Flood_situation_worsens_in_Thailand_06_09_2012?ref=ccbox_weather_topstories[/url<]

    • Arclight
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]I.Apple: We didn't give FBI any device IDs - AllThingsD[/quote<] Hard to believe them nowadays........

    • south side sammy
    • 7 years ago

    putting politics aside………. I’d like to know how much Romney made between 2000- and 2008. It was his job to put Americans out of work to bolster corporate income. Nice to know how much he made putting our mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles and our friends and neighbors out of work. The timeline mentioned happens to be the worst in “recent” American history followed by the 80’s. How do you like him now ? or is it too easy to forget that because you don’t want to see it ?

      • xeridea
      • 7 years ago

      How is Romney investing in companies, and bringing many to profitability putting Americans out of work? He made a boatload of money, and saved/created a boatload of jobs, what is wrong with this? Someone who knows economics run the country rather than a complete idiot? OH NOES!!!!

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        The problem is, Obama has better values than Rommey. If Rommey had values the choice is easy but is not. What is more important for you? The public image of the government or the knowledge? I will remember you that public image of a government helps it to apply measures, find allies for wars, negotiate with other countries, make people believe in your economy, etc. So it´s not just that the government is more friendly, it actually makes it work better.

        Do not simplify the choices, because to make a proper political choice is no way easy. At least that you just vote the party you like by default.

          • xeridea
          • 7 years ago

          Obama’s values are crap. He only wants to be president to spread the wealth and make us look like fools. His foreign policy is crap. I would much rather have someone with a brain, that respects the constitution and doesn’t try to change it every day to suit their needs, is from this country, actually cares about the country rather than brainwashing, making empty promises, blaming everyone else for his own problems, and trying to enforce asinine ideas he cooked up. Check Obama’s track record, or anyone with a brain, he has the worst record of any president in history. He has failed in every way, succeeded in none, and has not done an ounce of good.

          This isn’t a beauty pageant, we need someone with a brain, and image comes naturally.

            • south side sammy
            • 7 years ago

            yep, brains, something you should invest in.

            • Arag0n
            • 7 years ago

            Lol, I couldn´t say it better. Seems he thinks that Obama has no brain and got into his position just by chance…. he didn´t have to deal with his party, design a political campaign and idea that makes people join him or anything… he just well, you know? He was walking by the street and someone said to him that he was going to be the president.

            Shit, so much stupidity on that comment.

            • deathBOB
            • 7 years ago

            Remember, there is a second, invisible Obama that only conservatives can [url=http://youtu.be/933hKyKNPFQ<]see[/url<]. That may be who he is talking about.

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 7 years ago

            That bit was arguably the best comment Jon Stewart ever said. I finally understood why I couldn’t find any connection with the President I saw on the news and what I was hearing out of the mouths of conservative pundits.

            Now I get it!

        • BoBzeBuilder
        • 7 years ago

        I don’t like Obama either but your arguments are moronic and laughable.

      • lilbuddhaman
      • 7 years ago

      I’d just like to say it’s completely idiotic to say “putting politics aside” and then go directly into a political rant.

        • south side sammy
        • 7 years ago

        that’s not a political rant. just the truth.

          • willmore
          • 7 years ago

          If politics now means ‘things which are readily contradicted by reality’, then yes, that is politics. Didn’t we used to use ‘religion’ to describe that? Ahh, yes, we jumped that shark in 1980 with Reagan. Politics *is* now religion.

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 7 years ago

            A+ post, thumbs up, rated 5, would read again.

            The forceful ignorance displayed by the majority of political discussions on the internet is bad enough to drive anyone both educated and concerned either to alcoholism or apathy (or both). I feel like this is the thought process of far too many people:

            [I am certain that the world should work in the way I envision it] ->
            [Yet I’ve notice the world does not work they way I am certain it should] ->
            [could it be that maybe I have a poor understanding of very complex systems that even people who devote their lives to studying cannot grasp with certaintly?] ->
            [No, it must be a [b<]CONSPIRACY!![/b<] ] What the Christ people.

    • oldog
    • 7 years ago

    Re. “How to shut down Win 8”.

    Does anyone shut down their computer anymore?

      • xeridea
      • 7 years ago

      I occasionally restart for updates (like every month or 2), but normally leave it on 24/7 (it crunches also).

      • JohnC
      • 7 years ago

      I do it when I need to perform updates, so it’s kind of rare, but I still consider the pointless relocation of “shut down” function somewhat annoying (especially since I don’t like to use keyboard shortcuts and prefer to use mouse).

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        Last time I checked you didn´t need keyboard to shut down Win8…

      • TravelMug
      • 7 years ago

      Every day.

      • Antimatter
      • 7 years ago

      You should to save energy.

      • Meadows
      • 7 years ago

      I do once or twice a year, when managing/upgrading hardware.

      • Arclight
      • 7 years ago

      YES. Every single day when i finish using it.

      • haugland
      • 7 years ago

      Yes, and everyone should.

      • Shouefref
      • 7 years ago

      Sure. Eg to disconnect the internet connection. Furthermore to empty the memory completely. To keep down the energy bill. There is no use in having the bloody thing(s) on all night long. Also to avoid unexpected fires when I’m not at home (it can happen).

        • Deanjo
        • 7 years ago

        [quote<] Furthermore to empty the memory completely.[/quote<] That should never be needed unless one of your apps are leaking memory. [quote<] Also to avoid unexpected fires when I'm not at home (it can happen). [/quote<] Not going to happen unless there is a dead short. If there is then turning the computer off is going to have no effect and can start on fire powered off. So unless you unplug it from the wall that risk is still there (and in the case of a portable, removing the battery as well).

          • willmore
          • 7 years ago

          This is windows, Deanjo, they don’t do memory leaks in user space, they do it in the kernel.

          Also, yes, there is a clear difference in the risk of fire from a PC that is on and one that is off. For one, everything from the motherboard on down is no longer a risk. Also, most of the PSU will be shut down. The only part still on should be the small standby power circuit.

          Plus, power supplies have lifetimes based on how long they run and at what temperature they run. It’s hard to argue that a warmer power supply that is running will last longer than one that it turned off.

            • Deanjo
            • 7 years ago

            [quote<]Also, yes, there is a clear difference in the risk of fire from a PC that is on and one that is off. For one, everything from the motherboard on down is no longer a risk. Also, most of the PSU will be shut down. The only part still on should be the small standby power circuit.[/quote<] The motherboard down is the least likely item to start a fire. IF a motherboard is defective it can be just as dangerous of as it is on. There is nothing stopping it from giving a bad power good signal to the power supply. [quote<]This is windows, Deanjo, they don't do memory leaks in user space, they do it in the kernel.[/quote<] There are several windows servers out there with years of uptime that beg to differ. Where you get the idea that memory leaks do not happen in userspace I have no idea but that is completely false. [quote<]Plus, power supplies have lifetimes based on how long they run and at what temperature they run. It's hard to argue that a warmer power supply that is running will last longer than one that it turned off.[/quote<] Electronic components (especially when mixed with mechanical components) also have a limited amount of power cycle life.

            • willmore
            • 7 years ago

            [quote<]The motherboard down is the least likely item to start a fire. IF a motherboard is defective it can be just as dangerous of as it is on. There is nothing stopping it from giving a bad power good signal to the power supply.[/quote<] No. I flatly state that a faulty MB when not powered up has less risk of fire than one that is powered on. I can not see any logic you could use to assert that an unpowered MB is as much of a fire risk as a powered one. Either support your arguement or clarify what you're saying. [quote<]There are several windows servers out there with years of uptime that beg to differ. Where you get the idea that memory leaks do not happen in userspace I have no idea but that is completely false.[/quote<] Perhaps the sarcasm tags fell off somewhere in the 'tubes. What I'm saying is that bad code exists everywhere--user space and in the kernel. Yes, there may be some servers that have been running for years, but they've likely been doing one little function that whole time. Yay, you found a code path with no memory leaks. Good for you. That does nothing to speak to the rest of the kernel code. [quote<]Electronic components (especially when mixed with mechanical components) also have a limited amount of power cycle life.[/quote<] Yes, that is true, but for the things we're worried about--Hard drives and various fans--their on-time life is a signifigant consideration as well. HDs fail when just spinning and doing nothing else. Yes, they do fail due to power/spin(up/down) cycles, but they may be doing that when the OS tells them to idle. So, in that case, there may be little difference in their startup/down lifetime due to powering off your PC at night. The differiental will be that their electronics are off as well in the shutdown-the-PC case. That will have a small, but measurable effect on drive lifetime. Fans are almost entirely runtime limited. So, that's a clear win in the shutdown-the-PC case. For capacitors--the most likely part to fail in a PSU--their lifetime is determined by two things: temperature and ripple current. Two things that are completely stopped by powering off the PC. Yes, as an aside, most PSUs that present with failures have a bad semiconductor in them, but, if you trace the root cause, it is going to be a capacitor that aged out of spec and failed to regulate voltage well enough and put the semiconductor outside of its specs causing it to die.

      • Ifalna
      • 7 years ago

      Of course oO ~400Wx8h = 3,2KWh ~ 60ct
      Thats 219 Euros per Year.

      Hell yeah I shut that thing down when I go to sleep.

        • NeelyCam
        • 7 years ago

        You’ve disabled all idle power saving features..?

        Both of my desktops idle around 20-30W, and I never shut them off

      • Kurotetsu
      • 7 years ago

      I used to, but now I’ve been consistently putting it to sleep instead since I installed Windows 7. I’ve found that shutting down vs sleeping doesn’t save me anything on my electric bill and I lose the benefit of a faster start up and picking up exactly where I left off. So why not?

    • blastdoor
    • 7 years ago

    “The Raw Story: Hackers allegedly holding Romney tax returns for ransom”

    It would be so cool if this were true.

      • MadManOriginal
      • 7 years ago

      It would be kind of cool. The part about mailing the info to Republicans and Democrats on USB drives is a nice touch. I wouldn’t trust those USB drives to be clean though, and it hurts their blackmail case just a little bit. (This should properly be called blackmail, not ransom.)

      • l33t-g4m3r
      • 7 years ago

      This fiction about Romney’s “secret” tax returns holds less truth than Obama’s Birth Certificate. I dub thee [i<]Taxers[/i<]. If there was anything illegal, it certainly wouldn't be on a tax return, because the IRS would be all over that.

        • dpaus
        • 7 years ago

        ‘illegal’ – ‘immoral’ – ‘unethical’

        All ‘just’ words, right?

          • oldog
          • 7 years ago

          My next door neighbor thinks it’s unethical and immoral to eat meat. I happen not to agree.

          She also happens to believe it should be illegal.

        • superjawes
        • 7 years ago

        Of course everything on his returns are legal…that doesn’t mean the average population would be happy with them and think that what he paid was fair. That, I think, is the point of pushing the narrative.

        And there is a key difference between Obama’s birth certificate and Romney’s tax returns: one has been made public.

          • xeridea
          • 7 years ago

          Yeah, typical Obama and his loonies, trying to distract the masses from all his crap, and brainwash them by prefacing everything with “the American people”, a subtle tactic to make stuff sound better. Romney’s lower tax rate is on capital gains, not income tax, there is a big difference. Capital gains tax is lower because if were high, no one would ever invest, it would not be worth the risk for little gain. Obama just doesn’t tell you that.

          Obama must seal his fake documents so no one can see he is non-eligible, and blame all the problems on everyone else, because he can’t solve them, and has failed in every aspect. I would rather hire a plumber than Obama, at least they might have common sense.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 7 years ago

            Interesting, so there was no investment before 2003 when the current capital gains rates went into effect?

            Thanks, I [s<]got brainwashed[/s<] learned something new today!

            • xeridea
            • 7 years ago

            It was made a lot more promising for investors. What is wrong with someone paying the legal taxes just like everyone else? Should investors just voluntarily pay extra so it can get mishandled and wasted by the government? If they want, they may as well donate to a good cause.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 7 years ago

            The flip side to being ‘more promising’ is ‘less risky’…the latter means that more risk can be taken on for a given gain. That doesn’t help create a smooth-running less bubble-prone economy.

        • mutarasector
        • 7 years ago

        Agreed. Also, Harry Reid’s nonsense about Romneys Cayman accounts denoting something sinister is especially silly since he knows damn well there is a legitimate reason for employing these – it’s called ‘asset management/protection’ that most wealthy folks employ as a defense against the class envious targeting wealthy folks with frivolous suits, and an army of ambulance chasing lawyers all too will to take them on contingency basis, and liberal courts willing to help them strongarm/pry wealthy folks wealth from them.

        A common tactic is to employ LLCs whose assets are held in offshore trusts just to keep one’s assets from the prying eyes of U.S. courts and trial lawyers grubby mitts. Romney undoubtedly employs a similar strategy, and his tax returns would only serve as a marker beacon for some trying to search out what assets he actually has, but legally, is no one’s business except his and the IRS. Not the American public’s, Obamas, or any wealth redistributionist types.

          • NeelyCam
          • 7 years ago

          Nonsense. It’s time for a full wealth redistribution, Zeitgeist style

            • BIF
            • 7 years ago

            Nonsense, that’s already been implemented.

        • Beelzebubba9
        • 7 years ago

        Your inability to grasp any semblance if what’s actually happening before devolving into a morass of conspiracy theories and grossly indefensible statements continues to amuse and amaze.

        Shine on you crazy diamond!

      • xeridea
      • 7 years ago

      It would be cooler if they held Obama’s birth certificate ransom, they could get millions from blackmail.

        • l33t-g4m3r
        • 7 years ago

        I’m sure Soros/Clinton’s already doing that. That’s why Obama’s a teleprompter reading puppet, while off prompter his true colors show. Doesn’t matter if he’s really a hard core communist when he’s blackmailed. The released certificate is an obvious Photoshop, but the media isn’t going to report that. Corporate News is not independent media. Hell, everyone’s being blackmailed, even Rupert Murdoch. He’s had fox tone down the rhetoric since the phone hacking scandal, which is being used against him. Can’t trust anyone anymore, so listen to both sides and read between the lines.

        Lemme put things into perspective with the taxes though. If you think Romney needs to pay more, you’re a communist. That’s all there is to it. This country has become overrun with communists who want to spread the wealth around, instead of creating wealth. That’s the problem, and the solution is to get rid of it, not increasing welfarism and socialism. Socialism, central banking, and a controlled economy is exactly what’s caused the problem in the first place. There’s no such thing as too big to fail in a free market.

          • willmore
          • 7 years ago

          Not sure if nutjob or troll.

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 7 years ago

            His post history hints pretty hard at the former.

            • willmore
            • 7 years ago

            Ahh, thank you. Is there a quick way to say ‘show comments by this person’?

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 7 years ago

            You can look up his profile on the forums and get his post history that way.

            • willmore
            • 7 years ago

            Hmm, I thought I tried that and it only showed forum posts, not comment posts. I should try again. Thanks for the slap to the head.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            he’s certifiable. birther, antitax, everyone is a communist kinda guy.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            I read that as “anthrax”… mybad

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            I don’t think he’s Joey Belladonna. Scott Ian maybe.

            • willmore
            • 7 years ago

            And he is definately not “the man”.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            Or just an excellent troll

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            is he your alt account?

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 7 years ago

            Of course, I’m sure you think that applies to all conservatives.
            [url<]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/even-jon-stewart-finds-tolerance-at-the-dnc-doesnt-extend-to-conservatives-nazis-and-evil/[/url<] [url<]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/radio-host-pranks-dnc-delegates-with-question-about-banning-corporate-profits-and-many-agree-with-him/[/url<] [url<]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dem-delegates-supporters-on-video-were-really-pro-choice-unless-it-involves-food-school-or-union-choice/[/url<] [url<]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/real-news-se-cupp-looks-at-new-democrats/[/url<]

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DID YOU ACTUALLY POST LINKS FROM GLENN BECKS “NEWS” ORGANIZATION???? i MEAN, I KNEW YOU WERE CRAZY, BUT DIDN’T KNOW YOU WERE [i<] GLENN BECK [/i<] CRAZY!!! well now, that explains everything.

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 7 years ago

            The blaze is a conservative news [i<]aggregator[/i<], the articles are 99.9% not from Beck himself. Of course, since you don't consider conservatism a valid viewpoint, your opinion of beck's site is VOID. [url<]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-5-2012/hope-and-change-2---the-party-of-inclusion[/url<] [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xwejQBIyjow[/url<] The point is how hypocritical "liberals" [s<]communists[/s<] are.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            HAHAHHAAHAHA you said communists again seriously. AHAHHAHAHAHAH.

            i do think conservativism has a lot of valid viewpoints. it’s too bad that it also has so many crazy people that follow it. I thought after the last trouncing you were going to stop posting this stuff, since you’re unable to defend your insane ramblings? i’m sure scott would love it. dailytech is available for insane political discussions at [url<]http://www.dailytech.com[/url<]

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 7 years ago

            Look, you’re all godless communists. There’s no denying it. The people at the DNC wanted to take God out of the platform, and I wouldn’t expect otherwise from godless communists who are the cancer destroying the country.
            [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t8BwqzzqcDs[/url<] That's also why they don't respect the flag, referencing the flag left on the ground. Defend? What's there to defend when you can see it right in front of your face. You're the one on defense. Of course, you've obviously never defended any of your points because that would be admitting you're a communist, and name calling is easier.

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 7 years ago

            [quote=”l33t-g4m3r”<] Look, you're [i<]all godless communists. There's no denying it.[/i<] …you've obviously never defended any of your points because that would be admitting you're a communist, and [i<]name calling is easier.[/i<] [/quote<] Irony…. too crushing and obvious… can't resist…. argh!

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 7 years ago

            I posted a link to the DNC voting God out of their platform. There’s no irony here.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            actually, you’ve lost every discussion we’ve had. you always end with “i’m not going to bother anymore, cause you’re a crazy commie”. you’ve been totally unable to actually present any realistic anything.

            and God has nothing to do with politics. I’m not Christian, but I’m pretty sure Jesus said render unto Caeser… I’m pretty sure God doesn’t want anything to do with the Dems Vs Rep. God knows nobody else does…

            serious question: would you rather snuggle with hannity or rush limbaugh? I DON’T KNOW IF I COULD CHOOSE!!!! BOTH ARE SO ENTICING!!

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 7 years ago

            Incorrect. I said I’m going to fight fire with fire. You don’t ever address my points, and always insult, so an eye for an eye is what you get. Stop being a troll, and maybe I’ll be more respectful, because you certainly aren’t getting it now.

            [quote<]I'm pretty sure Jesus said render unto Caeser[/quote<] He was talking about spirituality versus worldliness, which I'm sure you know nothing about spirituality and are all about the world. Compliance with corrupt government is not part of our scripture, only tolerance. Christians tolerate government up until the point the government wants them to do something that violates their faith. Daniel did not worship Nebuchadnezzar's statue. Nor does the scripture say to comply with common corruption, such as Jesus overturning the money changer's tables. Anybody who's read the bible knows this, so if you've read it, this is nothing more than more fallacy trolling on your part. SSK, you are either a giant troll, or have the most convoluted thought process in the entire world, because almost everything you post is a fallacy.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            Address your points? What points are you making?

            Nobody is advocating for corruption. I said that government and God are not the same thing. That doesn’t mean people in government should have no values , but I’m not interested in your version of sharia law.
            They can happily coexist.
            Christ ended an eye for an eye. Its time for you to turn the other cheek. And Christ never talked about “tolerating” government. He obeyed, and wished well of all people. You seem to do none of that.
            Seriously though: [url<]http://www.dailytech.com[/url<]

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            ahhh i see. this another example of you winning? failing to respond? i thought so. well done sir, i guess it’s your victory again. call me a commie, fail to rebut reality, and then post another bizarre post next time that you’ll fail to back it up.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 7 years ago

            The answer is: both!

          • NeelyCam
          • 7 years ago

          Actually, what we need to do is cancel all this fake ‘money’ and return the land to the people.

          ‘Ownership’ is BS when there is plenty of resources to go around. Why do you get to eat when millions of people in Africa don’t?

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            don’t ask reasonable questions of people who feel some right to something that they have no right to. when you believe that a country is the greatest because you were born there, you have some nihilism going on. When you think you deserve something because you were born into a society that gives it to you, you have some nihilism going on. he deserves his standard of living because he’s AMERICAN DAMNIT. it’s a lottery, and he won, so he = better.

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 7 years ago

            Your statements contradict your political views. Fiat money is a central plank of communism, and so is government controlled property. There are plenty of resources to go around, but we’ll never see any of it as long as the government regulates everything into oblivion. Why are Africans starving? Eugenics, and it’s deliberate because they believe the world is overpopulated. It’s quite likely we’ll be seeing WW3 pretty soon, so you won’t really be worrying about any of this then.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            is it the lizard people doing it? those aliens? I’VE SEEN THE VIDEOS. I’VE SEEN THE PROOF, I KNOW THEY’RE REAL.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            I’m *sad* that they cancelled the new V

    • Aquilino
    • 7 years ago

    “How to shut down Windows 8”

    I LOLed.

    Windows XP: CTRL+SHIFT+ESC > ALT+R > R (on the spanish edition, that is; should be something similar on the others)

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      I cried…

      Windows8 is just so lame its unbelievable 🙁

      But if your 3lit3 press alt-f4 on the desktop…

      • forumics
      • 7 years ago

      [b<]Windows XP[/b<]: CTRL+SHIFT+ESC I LOLed. your next upgrade should be windows 98!

      • Arclight
      • 7 years ago

      Fastest way to close Windows XP, that i remember, was using the keyboard and pressing: Windows Key then double tap the “U’ key. For Windows 7 it’s: Windows key, double tap the TAB key the press enter (note: the Start menu>power button action, must be set to “Shut down” ofc). It’s longer than xp and that urks me a bit.

      Edit,
      [quote<]I.How to shut down Windows 8 [/quote<] "First you have to open the Charms bar (Press Window Key + C). Click on “Settings”. Then click on “Power”. Click “Shut Down”." Oh WTF Microsoft? I am dissapoint. Also "Charms bar"? That sounds so false and homosexual.

        • Meadows
        • 7 years ago

        Want to come to the Charms Bar tonight? I’ll get you a drink.

          • Arclight
          • 7 years ago

          EWWWW
          No.

        • Shouefref
        • 7 years ago

        [quote<]Also "Charms bar"? That sounds so false and homosexual.[/quote<] Ballmer's hidden preferences? Probably just another attempt by MS to be popular like Apple.

          • willmore
          • 7 years ago

          What, calling it ‘metro’ all that time wasn’t a hint?

        • indeego
        • 7 years ago

        Win Key
        Right Arrow
        Enter
        works for me under 7.

        You can also of course program keyboard shortcuts/macros that do the same thing, or program a computer media key on a keyboard to do the same thing.

          • Arclight
          • 7 years ago

          [quote<]Win Key Right Arrow Enter works for me under 7.[/quote<] Yup, that works too. Thanks. I guess i used TAB since i can find it easier without looking. That's because i use tab in all my fav online video games plus it's closer to the windows key. The down side ofc is that i have to press it twice compared to 1 key stroke for the arrow key.

    • indeego
    • 7 years ago

    [i<]The shutdown procedure is a little more complicated now. First you have to open the Charms bar (Press Window Key + C). Click on “Settings”. Then click on “Power”. Finally, click on “Shut Down”. Wasn’t that easy? Enjoy your new Windows 8 experience![/i<] I shall!

      • burntham77
      • 7 years ago

      CTRL+ALT+DEL, then Power, then Shut Down.

      A little odd, but it works.

      • WillBach
      • 7 years ago

      I learned a new way today watching over my coworker’s shoulder:
      [list<] [*<]Press "Delete" (maybe "Control" + "ALT" + "Delete"?) [/*<][*<]Click "Power" [/*<][*<]Click "Shutdown"[/*<] [/list<] I almost punched him in the face. Metro is so unintuitive that finding new shortcuts just makes you feel humiliated and stupid. Microsoft has been trying to beat open source for decades and they finally made something more annoying than the Pico editor (I use "vi"). Well done, Microsoft. Golf clap for you.

      • Madman
      • 7 years ago

      Alt+F4 on desktop…

      Not that it matters, Win 8 is already replaced with Linux Mint on my PC.

        • MadManOriginal
        • 7 years ago

        Good thing you replaced an OS which isn’t even released yet…that was a close one!

          • sweatshopking
          • 7 years ago

          lol i do love you.

          • destroy.all.monsters
          • 7 years ago

          That’s funny, you *can* download it just about anywhere.

          Nice trolling though.

      • huge
      • 7 years ago

      *pats win7 box* You’re not going anywhere!

      • chuckula
      • 7 years ago

      You forgot the goat sacrifice!
      Not much good without a goat sacrifice!

      • sweatshopking
      • 7 years ago

      or move mouse to right hand side of screen, click settings, and shutdown (actually says power).

        • sschaem
        • 7 years ago

        You are missing a few steps. Its not as streamline as you make it sound.

          • sweatshopking
          • 7 years ago

          which steps? i just did it.

        • indeego
        • 7 years ago

        How intuitive for average Joe!

          • sweatshopking
          • 7 years ago

          yeah, took my wife about 2 seconds to figure it out.

            • indeego
            • 7 years ago

            Wait so your wife knew to move the mouse to the right hand side of a new operating system to shut it down? How is this innate behavior? Why would you click “settings” for anything related to powering off a device? No other mobile device has something like that, nor OS that I know of.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            that’s true, but it’s not complicated. it wasn’t a huge deal breaker. it took like 2 seconds.

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      But thats cheating ! thats using the keyboard.
      With the mouse its a 7 step procedure, often placing the mouse in hidden hot spot. waiting for popup slide menu to animate, etc.. etc…

      If your going to use the keyboard, might as well alt-f4.
      [url<]http://imageshack.us/f/839/shutdownn.jpg/[/url<] Win8 is an ABOMINATION.

      • yuriylsh
      • 7 years ago

      Ctrl+Alt+Del -> Power -> Shut down
      Ctrl+I -> Power -> Shut down
      Alt+F4 on desktop+Enter

      For those who think it’s still all that hard and shutting down is the major use case with their computers (like, I don’t know, every 1 minute…):
      1) Right-click on desktop -> New -> Shortcut. Set target to be “C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 0” without quotes. Name it “Shutdown”. If you want, right click on the shortcut, Properties, change the icon to the red shutdown icon.
      2) Right-click on the shortcut and choose “Pin to Start” and “Pin to taskbar”. Now you can shutdown with one mouse click from either desktop or metro UI.

        • xeridea
        • 7 years ago

        Yeah, kuz thats easier than start->shutdown. What about sleep, hibernate, restart, lock, logoff, switch user? Make 7 shortcuts to clutter the taskbar?

          • yuriylsh
          • 7 years ago

          What about other 3 options that I listed? Picking the only option out of four that would require customization for each of the actions was done unintentionally, of course… 🙂

          And if you ask me all the ways of doing it (including start->shutdown in Win7) are easy for me, I genuinely don’t understand why people make such a big deal out of it.

            • Voldenuit
            • 7 years ago

            What about all those Surface/Win8 tablets? It’s not like you can fall back on convoluted keyboard shortcuts when you don’t always have a keyboard docked to your tablet.

            • yuriylsh
            • 7 years ago

            It’s much easier on tablets with Windows 8 (at least to me, I’ve been using tablet with Win7/Win8 for a year now). One swipe and and several “clicks” on UI elements that are optimized (size-wise) for touch.

            • Voldenuit
            • 7 years ago

            Thanks for the info, I’m not sure why anyone would give you a -1 for providing useful information.

            +1 from me.

            • xeridea
            • 7 years ago

            Its because they took away a simple method of doing this, and many other things, that have been easy for years and made them painful and unintuitive in pursuit of their garbage UI that most people hate.

            • yuriylsh
            • 7 years ago

            What you described is not my experience. Even people at work who were prejudiced to windows 8 because of negative buzz adjusted to Win8 in a day or two and doing just fine now. I wondering where the “most people” statistic comes from (interestingly TR seems to be the site where I see the most negativity towards Windows 8) .

      • Arag0n
      • 7 years ago

      The easiest of all methods… press the power button of your computer/laptop and it will automatically shutdown….

        • xeridea
        • 7 years ago

        What about restart, standby, hibernate, log off, lock, switch user?

          • Arag0n
          • 7 years ago

          Let´s see, actual process:

          -Go bottom left corner and press start button.
          -Move your cursor to the tiny arrow at the right side of shut-down.
          -Wait for the menu to open.
          -Press the option you want.

          vs

          -Go to the top-right corner.
          -Press settings.
          -Press press power.
          -Choose the option you want.

          Clearly, now it´s much harder….

            • xeridea
            • 7 years ago

            Lets have invisible hotspots everywhere to randomly interrupt your workflow.

            The arrow isn’t that small, I never have issue finding it, I can do do anything in 2-3 seconds, and shut down is about 1.

            Win8 involves moving your mouse allover, choosing multiple options, and being distracted by a full screen of garbage.

            • Arag0n
            • 7 years ago

            2-3 seconds to find the arrow? I just wanted to mean by “tiny” that it´s something that some people may miss if they don´t look careful not that it takes long to do it. Anyways, you are over-complaining. Once you know what those things are you stop having issues with those things showing off. But I guess you would prefer the old Win98 start menu with thousands of menus and submenus…. you just had to remember where everything was because it was pretty time-consuming to explore one by one. Win Vista improved dramatically with the system-wide search bar and Win8 still has that just made better. I can´t understand how many people claims to be power users and actually they do not use the system-wide searching .

        • Ifalna
        • 7 years ago

        Or ALT+F4 on your desktop and select the method you want. (If your comp is under the table or something.

      • shaurz
      • 7 years ago

      Shutting down isn’t a “setting”, what a ridiculous place to hide it.

        • willmore
        • 7 years ago

        “Set computer to the powered off state.” Completely logical if you squint your eyes and turn your head to the side. (Sorry for the Young Ones reference)

        • yuriylsh
        • 7 years ago

        Absolutely, whereas putting an option to END your computer session into the START menu is so much more logical 😀

      • Beelzebubba9
      • 7 years ago

      Anyone else just hit the power button on their case?

      Bueller?

        • indeego
        • 7 years ago

        No because there is zero repeatability for what it does across different systems.

          • Beelzebubba9
          • 7 years ago

          I was just talking about my home PC. Not that it was any defense for obfuscating a core UI function, I was just curious as to why it’s an uncommon solution.

        • heinsj24
        • 7 years ago

        Um, he’s sick. My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.

        But yes, I set my power button to shutdown my computer.

      • Krogoth
      • 7 years ago

      [url<]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WHptG35EWU[/url<] /thread

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