TDK tech could bring 10TB hard drives in 2014

A little more than six months after Seagate demoed a hard drive platter with an areal density of one terabit per square inch, TDK has raised the bar. The firm has achieved an areal density of 1.5Tbit/inΒ², a new record according to TechOn. This areal density should allow for 2.5″ hard drive platters that pack an even terabyte and 3.5″ media with double that capacity.

Like Seagate, TDK uses heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR) technology to flip bits on its ultra-dense platters. The firm hasn’t integrated its latest media into a hard drive, though. The areal density was verified on a “spin plate” rather than a working drive. However, TDK does plan on demoing a HAMR-equipped hard drive at the CEATEC show in Japan this week.

TDK doesn’t expect to be mass-producing 1.5Tb/inΒ² platters until 2014, so it’ll be some time before we can get our hands on the tech. If drive makers stick to their current platter counts, we could see 3.5″ models with capacities up to 8-10TB. Notebook drives, which are typically limited to two platters, could reach 2TB. Right now, the biggest 3.5″ desktop drives top out at 4TB, while notebook models are stuck around the terabyte mark.

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    • ezrasam
    • 7 years ago

    It will be wonderful to have one more manufacturer other than SG & WD.

    That might bring the prices down….
    [url<]https://techreport.com/news/23668/hdd-shipments-rebound-exceed-pre-flood-levels[/url<]

    • Krogoth
    • 7 years ago

    10TB is not enough for my massive collection of “disappointment” pr0n.

      • Mourmain
      • 7 years ago

      Oh baby, you call that a product announcement? Mmmh. Wake me up when it’s at least double that size.

      • albundy
      • 7 years ago

      yeah, you say that NOW, but in 2014 you will say otherwise.

    • Wirko
    • 7 years ago

    So, HDD platters are developed and made by TDK and Showa Denko, motors by Nidec, heads by TDK’s SAE, and so on. Are there any crucial parts made by Seagate and WD themselves any more, besides the firmware?

    • Bensam123
    • 7 years ago

    About fucking time. I can only imagine the boost to sequential read/writes with something like this… Mechanicals will probably even surpass older generation SSDs… Given the time to market from now, I imagine Seagate will have their tech ready by then as well.

    PS 3.5″ SSDs wanted…

      • Arclight
      • 7 years ago

      Actually by the time these things come out, older SSDs might be faster than 2014 release SSDs.
      Read this:
      [url<]http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/users/swanson/papers/FAST2012BleakFlash.pdf[/url<]

        • Bensam123
        • 7 years ago

        Fair enough, I didn’t consider the current advancement of SSDs, only the current state. It’s pretty impressive either way as a lot of people consider current SSDs ‘good enough’… I don’t personally, but subjective you know.

    • Kaleid
    • 7 years ago

    Bring it!

    • tootercomputer
    • 7 years ago

    Even though it’s “old fashioned” magnetic media, still, the idea of getting 10 TBs in one 3.5″ drive still leaves me in awe. Hats off to these folks. Imagine having a desktop with two hdds that total 20TBs. Geez.

      • DarkUltra
      • 7 years ago

      It’s all about perspective, and that is lost all too soon. Imagine AGP and Pentium 266 in the 99’s.

    • CaptTomato
    • 7 years ago

    Can W7 properly handle 2x 4tbyte ext’s…?

      • Forge
      • 7 years ago

      If you’re booting via BIOS, no. BIOS has a rather ugly limit of around 2.2 TB for a bootable disk.

      If you’re booting via UEFI, 10TB+ is no big thing.

        • Arclight
        • 7 years ago

        I wonder though, if UEFI is the next big thing and knowing how much BIOS lasted, shouldn’t they have made a higher limit for UEFI? Thinking 10 petabytes or something……

        Edit:
        Nevermind
        [quote<]UEFI supports the GUID Partition Table (GPT), a more flexible partitioning scheme. GPT disks use 64-bit values to describe partitions, allowing larger partitions. GPT also fixes other issues related to MBR (data integrity, backup tables, maximum number of partitions, …). Using 64-bit values, GPT can handle disks of up to 9.4 x 1021 bytes or 9.4 zettabytes (ZB).[/quote<] 1 zettabyte, iirc, equals to 1 000 000 TB. Dang

        • Krogoth
        • 7 years ago

        You can get around the BIOS limitation by using a third-party boot loader that has GPT support.

        • CaptTomato
        • 7 years ago

        I currently have about 3.4t of goodies on 2 externals{2x2t original, and 2x2t back up}, but I’d like to eventually just have 2x4t, so they’d always be external HDD’s, so can W7 64bit control both at the same time?

      • Krogoth
      • 7 years ago

      Yes, but you will have to format the partition into GPT format and only x64 versions of 7/vista have GPT support. The only stipulation is that you need to have some kind of third-party boot loader or naive GPT support in order to boot from any partition larger than 2TiB. Fortunately, UEFI has native GPT support.

        • CaptTomato
        • 7 years ago

        I know there’s some limitation with these large HDD’s, but I only want them as externals, they never have to be connected to the PC during a reboot.
        I want one 4t of original content, and another for back up, but the back up drive will be disconnected, and if the 1st ext fails, I buy another 4t and copy the entire drive and all my content is safe.

          • Krogoth
          • 7 years ago

          The partition on the HDD still needs to be format in GPT in order to be larger than 2TB.

          Like I said, Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8 (x64) have full GPT support. They should be able to create and read off the GPT partition.

    • Arclight
    • 7 years ago

    Any chance of reviewing [url=http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive-octal/<]this[/url<] till 2014?

    • bjm
    • 7 years ago

    The headline should read: “TDK tech could bring 10TB hard drives in 2014, but will instead release a 4.5TB drive and slowly increase the capacity to financially milk the technology.”

      • Helmore
      • 7 years ago

      TDK does not release harddrives, TDK is in the business of providing materials, components and technology to the likes of Seagate and WD.

        • bjm
        • 7 years ago

        Bleh, semantics, schemantics… bottom line is we won’t be seeing any 10TB drive in 2014.

    • sschaem
    • 7 years ago

    My bet is on nand stacking. 4TB driver are going to be the last bastion of the mechanical drive industry.

      • Anomymous Gerbil
      • 7 years ago

      Tell that to YouTube and similar sites.

        • Airmantharp
        • 7 years ago

        He probably meant ‘in the consumer space’.

      • Bensam123
      • 7 years ago

      Wah? Sarcasm? You just read more then the headline?

    • jstern
    • 7 years ago

    It won’t happen. Obama is going to make an announcement. πŸ™

      • Grigory
      • 7 years ago

      Even if America should fall under Obama it is only one market less for TDK. Don’t worry.

      • Kaleid
      • 7 years ago

      What will he announce? That global investors prefer him over Rmoney?

        • jstern
        • 7 years ago

        Actually I was thinking more like a new planet announcement, like Lavos from Chrono Trigger.

    • Chrispy_
    • 7 years ago

    So, as the sectors on a disk get smaller and smaller, IOPS falls because it’s harder and harder to align the head with the right track.

    My guess is that these things are going to be usless for everything except sequential data storage. I’m going to guess 20ms average seeks and reduced spindle speeds, as well as IOPS in the low double figures.

    Hooray for progress!

    • Dposcorp
    • 7 years ago

    “TDK tech could bring 10TB hard drives in 2014”

    (fine print: After formatting, drive will still only be 2tb) πŸ™‚

      • Arclight
      • 7 years ago

      You can have the 10TB SSD “Experience” right now, if you’re wealthy enough
      [url<]http://www.storagereview.com/10tb_fusionio_iodrive_octal_announced_supercomputing_2011[/url<]

        • Grigory
        • 7 years ago

        *nerdgasm*

        • vargis14
        • 7 years ago

        Double! *nerdgasm*

          • Arclight
          • 7 years ago

          Think about having 4 of the those on EATX motherboard…….

    • brucethemoose
    • 7 years ago

    Since reliability seems to decrease with increased density, the failure rate for these drives will be astronomical.

      • bcronce
      • 7 years ago

      I think you mean error rate. Modern HDs have lower failure rates.

    • indeego
    • 7 years ago

    So a few days to fully format/verify a mechanical drive. This is the 2014 future we have been waiting for.

      • BobbinThreadbare
      • 7 years ago

      #firstworldproblems

      • Airmantharp
      • 7 years ago

      Why would it take that long? With density increases come data rate increases…

        • Helmore
        • 7 years ago

        AFAIK the data rate doesn’t increase at exactly the same rate as the data increase. In other words, a 4 TB drive won’t be twice as fast as a 2TB drive if they’re both spinning at the same 7200 RPM speed. indeego may be exaggerating a little, but he is right in saying that bigger drives will take longer to format or to verify.

    • Xenolith
    • 7 years ago

    BRING BACK THE 5 1/4 DRIVE!!! I miss my Bigfoot.

      • colinstu12
      • 7 years ago

      I agree. Just imagine the insane amount of platters and physical size of them you could have with that.

      • ClickClick5
      • 7 years ago

      Ladies and gents…..the 8in is back!

      1PB external drive!

      • swaaye
      • 7 years ago

      I barely use optical drives anymore so those 5.25″ bays do need a new use indeed.

        • Ushio01
        • 7 years ago

        [url<]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994095[/url<]

          • mnecaise
          • 7 years ago

          Ok, that’s just cool. Had not seen that one yet — I like it.

          • Airmantharp
          • 7 years ago

          Picked up one of those internal docks, but it fits 3.5″ drives too. Still, that Icydock ‘dock’ looks quite awesome indeed.

      • ludi
      • 7 years ago

      Given the amount of platter the R/W head would have to span, that couldn’t do anything good for seek latencies.

        • willmore
        • 7 years ago

        Cache with SSD. Seek time isn’t always important.

        • Alexko
        • 7 years ago

        That’s not necessarily a problem for mass storage.

          • ludi
          • 7 years ago

          Actually, it is. The market for these devices would be fairly small and the manufacturing costs for the customized parts would be correspondingly high. The device would have to offer some compelling feature other than “more storage” because the physical space occupied by a theoretical 5.25″ hard drive can be better-allocated to multiple 3.5″ disks, which are already in mass production at commodity prices.

        • Bensam123
        • 7 years ago

        Pfff, who says it has to be a primary source of storage. Just think of it as a tape drive. πŸ˜€

      • Grigory
      • 7 years ago

      Full height, too! πŸ˜€

      • Bensam123
      • 7 years ago

      Silly big, but I still have plenty of unused 5 1/4 bays. If I remember right I could stack two in there too… πŸ˜€

    • anotherengineer
    • 7 years ago

    I wonder how much data that would be if it were on something the size of a laser disc?

    [url<]http://ariadne-media.ukoln.info/grfx/img/issue36-tna/grossman.gif[/url<]

    • Arclight
    • 7 years ago

    Well it was about time we heard some good news regarding increased capacity. Dat porn has to go somewhere.

      • 5150
      • 7 years ago

      Shhhhh! You can’t talk about pr0n on this site!

        • nanoflower
        • 7 years ago

        Sure you can. Haven’t you seen the gun pr0n thread?

    • BobbinThreadbare
    • 7 years ago

    I know Batman has some cool tech, but I thought the Dark Knight was pure scifi.

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