Wednesday Shortbread

Eight is Enough

  1. CPU World: AMD to cut prices of A4-series APUs
  2. X-bit labs: Intel to start production of Haswell chips in Q4, despite slow demand

    and Intel’s next-gen Atom “Avoton” chip to feature 8-cores, new memory controller

    and Seagate refreshes lineup of HDDs for enterprises and Micron 20nm NAND

    flash powers 44TB solid-state storage system for big data

  3. Fudzilla: All-in-ones for Q1 13 get Ivy Bridge for $399 and up
  4. Bloomberg: Best Buy to introduce tablet to compete with Amazon, Apple
  5. DigiTimes: Google to debut $99 Nexus tablet in 4Q12, say Taiwan makers
  6. WSJ has Hon Hai’s explanation for iPhone 5 shortage
  7. MCV: Skyrim Dragonborn DLC unearthed
  8. Diablo III patch 1.0.5 now available


Wednesday

  1. Ars Technica: Nvidia’s VGX cards bring big graphics performance to virtual machines
  2. Dealzon’s deals: $50 coupon for 17.3″ Toshiba L875D AMD A8-4500M,

    $50 coupon for 24″ Acer 120Hz 2ms 3D LCD monitor, $125 off Memorex

    USB external Blu-ray drive, and $15 coupon for Dell KM713 wireless

    keyboard and mouse

Mobile

  1. VR-Zone: HTC unveils One S Special Edition
  2. HotHardware’s hands-on first look: Motorola RAZR HD
  3. AnandTech’s Apple iPhone 5 review (thanks jdaven)

Software and gaming

  1. Fudzilla: Microsoft rolls out new 360 Dashboard
  2. VR-Zone: Mobile gamepad the size of a keychain
  3. Doom 3 BFG Edition—launch trailer
  4. BioWare: Groundside Resistance weapon pack for Mass Effect 3
  5. Mojang: New Minecraft Xbox 360 edition update is out
  6. Coming soon to Guild Wars 2: Halloween 2012

Systems and storage

  1. Phoronix on Calxeda EnergyCore ECX-1000 ARM server
  2. PCPer’s AVADirect mini gaming PC review
  3. X-bit labs review Asus Maximus V Formula
  4. Techreaction reviews EVGA Z77 FTW
  5. TweakTown on Kingston’s 8GB HyperX Predator PC3-19200 dual-channel kit
  6. VR-Zone’s 240GB Corsair Neutron SSD review
  7. [H]ard|OCP reviews 32GB SanDisk ReadyCache SSD
  8. PCPer reviews Patriot Gauntlet 320 external wireless hard drive

Multimedia

  1. Ocaholic reviews Asus HD 7970 Matrix Platinum
  2. HTL reviews MSI GeForce GTX 650 Power Edition OC
  3. TestFreaks review 23″ LG IPS236V IPS LED LCD monitor
  4. Techgage reviews Logitech G710+ keyboard
  5. Benchmark Reviews on Mad Catz S.T.R.I.K.E. 7 keyboard
  6. KitGuru reviews Tt eSports Level 10 M mouse

Power, case, and cooling

  1. SPCR reviews 550W be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 PSU
  2. OCmodshop reviews NZXT Phantom 820 case
  3. Hardware Canucks review BitFenix Hydra Pro & Recon fan controllers
  4. Hardware Heaven reviews SilverStone Heligon series HE01 CPU cooler
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    • aim18
    • 7 years ago
    • sweatshopking
    • 7 years ago

    you guys see this? [url<]http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57533001-38/verizon-draws-fire-for-monitoring-app-usage-browsing-habits/[/url<]

      • destroy.all.monsters
      • 7 years ago

      Yep, I did (yesterday way before Neely’s copypaste in his never ending quest to serve as ATT’s white knight). Not exactly surprising after the whole Carrier IQ thing.

      Privacy as a concept is largely dead. Scott McNealy’s famous quote has largely been taken to heart by companies like Google and Facebook anyway.

      [url<]http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/01/17538[/url<]

    • ET3D
    • 7 years ago

    It’s nice to see a few details of the $99 Nexus. Single core 800MHz A9 + TN panel mean it’s definitely not an enthusiast’s tablet. I’ll wait for some more details and reviews to make up my mind if it’s really useful for the non-demanding audience. It could end up a nice media device and book reader / web device which will be a Kindle killer.

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      With a TN’s limited viewing angle, it isn’t going to be a great e-book reader.

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      Cant wait to get a tablet in my next box of Cereal…

        • willmore
        • 7 years ago

        That 10 euro German eBook reader might show up in one.

    • destroy.all.monsters
    • 7 years ago

    Not in the shortbread but the coolest thing I’ve read all day: [url<]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-09-night-and-the-city[/url<] About a man and his father revisiting old Los Angeles as the Pop knew it though L.A. Noire.

      • ET3D
      • 7 years ago

      Thanks. That’s a great article. (Well, a little long, but I enjoyed a lot the parts I didn’t skip. 🙂

      • oldog
      • 7 years ago

      When I played LA Noire I had my mom over at the house and we “drove” downtown to the place where she used to take the bus from Boyle Heights to shop as a child. Now mom’s a bit forgetful but she did seem to remember the shops.

      Funny thing, she didn’t seem especially impressed with the technology or the game. Go figure.

    • mutarasector
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]Intel's next-gen Atom "Avoton" chip to feature 8-cores, new memory controller[/quote<] Can anyone say 'Buh bye AMD'?

      • Grigory
      • 7 years ago

      Eff yeah! Half a grand or more for an entry level CPU here we come!

        • chuckula
        • 7 years ago

        Considering that Avaton is aimed squarely at preventing ARM from getting a decent foothold in the server market, I’m pretty sure that AMD staying in business or going out of business would have nothing to do with how it is priced.

          • Grigory
          • 7 years ago

          I am not talking about Avaton. Imagine the price of Intel CPUs without any competition from AMD should AMD go tits up.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            AMD might as well be tits up. it’s sales are quickly approaching 0, it has almost no impact on cpu pricing. I can’t imagine intel cares at all what they’re doing.

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            intel’s neither that stupid nor that arrogant.

            We’d never have seen on-die gpus from intel (outside of chips designed for handsets) without AMD heading that direction first.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            i don’t think intel gives a rats ass about regulation. what are they worried about? the government forcing them to share a fab? not going to happen. they can point to samsung, TSMC, etc. another billion dollar fine, while they grow from 5 billion in revenue to 10 billion in profit? they’re not scared. Intel is firing on all cylinders, and i don’t think they worry about regulation.

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            I never brought up regulation. Are you answering another post?

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            I assumed with your “stupid nor that arrogant” you were referring to antitrust. I don’t know what else would be stupid about letting AMD die.

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            “… it has almost no impact on cpu pricing. I can’t imagine intel cares at all what they’re doing.”

            If anything intel is hyper aware of what AMD is doing. Their engineers in particular hold AMD in high esteem despite being competitors (and have made comments as such many times in places such as Ars). I’d argue that they are keeping prices low (particularly on the low to mid end) particularly because AMD is.

            What I was referencing was that you don’t ignore your competition no matter how on the ropes they may appear to be because you do so at your peril – and intel knows that (K7 era for example). To ignore what AMD is doing would be both stupid and arrogant – and I don’t think intel has any intention of being caught with its pants down again.

            tl;dr intel too smart to ignore its competitors.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            I think the difference is that I don’t really consider AMD much of a competitor in the x86 market. As for the k7 days, great example: AMD trounced the netburst stuff, and what good did it do? Intel’s margins went from 50 to almost 70. I understand the importance of the advancements AMD makes, but i think there is no way, besides YEARS of Intel screwups and AMD executing full bore for it to make one bit of difference. Basically, I don’t really consider AMD a competitor anymore.

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            Which is something a lot of people mistakenly do. AMD != VIA (which is not to say VIA is entirely irrelevant either – just that their market here is fairly minimal outside the embedded market). The fact that there’s a pricing pressure at all is due to intel’s having a credible competitor in the market.

            I’m not sure what kind of difference you’re looking for – the fact that intel has on-die graphics was due to AMD’s competition. Opteron has put a lot of pressure on them on the server side (though less so with the current generation) and as a result intel upped their game.

            I’m just not really sure why you think they’re not a competitor anymore. It’s been incredibly rare that they’ve competed with intel across the board and that’s an extremely high bar if that’s the bar you’ve set.

            Keep in mind that a lot of the things that have become hallmarks of intel processors were as a result of competition – low power was a hallmark of VIA and Transmeta before it became something intel paid much attention to. ARM was kicking its butt in the mobile space for years before it started putting out Atom and drawing out the long line to Medfield. intel thrives off of competition in a way that no other company I can think of does.

            So you might not consider AMD competition but as long as they’re still extant intel will be watching them.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            Why do you say intel wouldn’t have put the gpu on die without amd? intel was the first to do it. amd claimed the first true quad core, too bad intel trounced them in performance with their implementation that came out first. the thing amd beat them at was x64.
            i’m not looking for any difference. I don’t believe intel’s price is set by amd. Like neely, i think intel charges what they want, and amd tried to beat them. Intel is merely trying to maximize profit through the magic of margins and volume.
            Saying opteron is a competitor is fair. they peaked at like 25% of the market, and that’s reasonable. that is competition. on the consumer front, i don’t think anyone cares what amd does. consumers don’t seem to, as they’re not buying amd. I [i<] like [/i<] amd. i'm an underdog kinda guy. this isn't an underdog situation anymore. it's an undermouse. Intel goes where the market is heading, competition or otherwise. atom is a response to fabbing tech getting to a point where intel can make powerful, small chips. I agree that intel is watching them, but i don't think they worry about them.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            [quote<]I'd argue that they are keeping prices low (particularly on the low to mid end) particularly because AMD is. [/quote<] I think it goes the other way around. As Intel has a vast majority of the market share, they end up deciding the price, and AMD adjusts theirs to slightly beat Intel's performance/$... if they can (they still have to make money..). The bottom line is, AMD needs higher profits to keep the ship floating, and they'll push the CPU prices as high as possible, with the limit being Intel's price. As a result, Intel controls the pricing - not AMD.

            • destroy.all.monsters
            • 7 years ago

            If you mean that they’re both putting pricing pressure on each other I’d agree with you. I’m not saying that AMD sets the tone per se – however without a competitor intel will have no reason to keep prices low.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            [quote<]I'm not saying that AMD sets the tone per se - however without a competitor intel will have no reason to keep prices low.[/quote<] Agreed

        • ET3D
        • 7 years ago

        I don’t see a reason why that’d happen. Intel’s business is to sell CPU’s to people who already own Intel CPU’s. It would be suicide to stop improving its chips or raising prices significantly. It’s possible that things will slow down a little or prices go up a little, but I don’t think it will be anything significant. And of course there’s ARM at Intel’s back.

        By the way, AMD was the company that upped the CPU prices in the first place. Intel never thought of pricing a consumer CPU above the $300 range until AMD came out with the Athlon FX and doubled high end CPU price overnight.

          • destroy.all.monsters
          • 7 years ago

          Perhaps you don’t remember how expensive intel’s chips were when they were married to Rambus RAM.

          I’m unaware of a monopoly that didn’t end up abusing its pricing structure and power as a result of being a monopoly.

      • Ringofett
      • 7 years ago

      Quad core for consumer level, but also incorporating Ivy Bridge’s HD3000…

      I used to have a suspicion that Intel pulled its punches a bit, so as to not *totally* crush AMD on every single level, thereby avoiding anti-trust issues.. but with that and Haswell both dropping next year, I think I was being naive..

      TDP seems a little interesting, though. At up to 20W, it steps on the lowest range of Haswell, no?

      Edit: Double checked, and Haswell targets 10 to 20W. The 8-core, 20W Avotron must purely be to head off ARM?

        • dpaus
        • 7 years ago

        I don’t think 20W is going to scare – or interest – the ARM world.

          • chuckula
          • 7 years ago

          You’d be surprised. If ARM wants to scale up then it’s going to have to have solutions in that power range. Plus, if a 20 Watt TDP chip (that idles at the same level as ARM chips) can do the work of two or three of those ARM “microservers” then all of the sudden a 20 Watt TDP is nowhere near as big as it sounds.

          Remember that each & every microserver has a fixed-cost for power consumption, which is in the uncore (memory, PCIe, disks, interconnect, etc.) The uncore on an 8-core Avaton will only be slightly larger than the corresponding uncore on a 4-core Atom/ARM/whatever chip (much much less than 2x the size)….

        • willmore
        • 7 years ago

        SB’s HD 3000, not IVB. IVB is 2500 and 4000, SB was 2000 and 3000. Minor nit.

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      AMD is already out of that race.

      This news is more of a wake-up call for ARM.

      If you think AMD lost the battle… wait until ARM get obliterated by Intel in the next 24 month.

        • NeelyCam
        • 7 years ago

        [quote<]If you think AMD lost the battle... wait until ARM get obliterated by Intel in the next 24 month.[/quote<] If you talk about performance/watt, I agree with you. If you talk about performance/$, ARM chips will still be competitive simply because Intel likes money.. This might eventually end up much like the 80/20 split Intel/AMD has now - I think it'll take more than two years before we're there, though.

    • Arclight
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]Micron 20nm NAND flash powers 44TB solid-state storage system for big data [/quote<] Damn it, why did Timmy wake up while i was reading the article?

    • Jigar
    • 7 years ago

    Thanks Ronald, i had an amazing breakfast.

    • NeelyCam
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]CPU World: AMD to cut prices of A4-series APUs [/quote<] A4-5300 for $30..!!??!! Budget HTPC, anyone?

      • MadManOriginal
      • 7 years ago

      Yeah, seriously…that would make it the cheapest component in just about any worthwhile build I can imagine. Crazy!

      *It is pretty darn weak though. 2 ‘cores’ and only 128 shaders. Makes me wonder how capable it is for HD video playback and post-processing etc.

        • Goty
        • 7 years ago

        HD playback: OK
        Post-processing: Barely adequate if you’re the sort of person who sits down and tweaks all of the settings to get the best image, OK for anyone else.

        • willmore
        • 7 years ago

        I thought all the dual core APUs were in the E2 family? Did anything ever come of the E2 family?

      • shaurz
      • 7 years ago

      Budget HTPCs will be obsoleted by cheap Android STBs / HDMI sticks.

        • sschaem
        • 7 years ago

        Nice statement.. how about some facts?
        How much storage on the HDMI stick ? many hours of HD recording?
        Does is hook up to your receiver and deliver native DTS?
        How many channel of DVR on the stick ?
        How many album/CD,etc.. can I store on it?
        Does it support megapixel raw images? how many can I store on it?
        How is the quality of the de-interlacer (is it vector adaptive? or else?)
        What game can you play on it ?
        Decent web browsing experience? good wireless control ? what keyboard does it support ?
        Can you install torrents, install streaming software for special events, etc.. etc…

        A budget HTPC can do all this and more. (And its upgradable)

        edit: if you are talking about hulu, amazon prime, netflix… any HTPC can do that, even a console in the case its not built in your TV or BD player.

          • Deanjo
          • 7 years ago

          [quote<]How much storage on the HDMI stick ? many hours of HD recording? [/quote<] HDMI sticks usually would use a network source for content. Recording really wouldn't be possible unless you used a USB device like a Hauppauge HD-PVR. The amount of recordings that it could hold would all depend on your storage media and the bitrates of the recordings. [quote<]Does is hook up to your receiver and deliver native DTS?[/quote<] No problem there at all even with DTS-HD MA and DD TrueHD via the latest versions of XBMC. [quote<]How many album/CD,etc.. can I store on it? Does it support megapixel raw images? how many can I store on it?[/quote<] See above comment on storage. [quote<]How is the quality of the de-interlacer (is it vector adaptive? or else?)[/quote<] That's dependent on the software used. [quote<]What game can you play on it ?[/quote<] Depends what games are ported the the platform. [quote<]Decent web browsing experience?[/quote<] They seem to have. [quote<] good wireless control ?[/quote<] As good as the wireless card used, same as a pc. [quote<] what keyboard does it support ?[/quote<] Pretty much any keyboard [quote<]A budget HTPC can do all this and more. (And its upgradable)[/quote<] For $35? Almost every concern you list applies to both solutions and have the same pitfalls and gotchas.

      • ET3D
      • 7 years ago

      I read somewhere that AMD denied these rumours.

    • NeelyCam
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]MCV: Skyrim Dragonborn DLC unearthed [/quote<] I know it's a stupid question to which we all know the answer, but "PS3..?"

      • James296
      • 7 years ago

      there seems to be some files in the PS3 for it but I’d still take that with a grain of salt

    • NeelyCam
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]X-bit labs: Intel to start production of Haswell chips in Q4, despite slow demand[/quote<] Slow demand? Maybe for Ivy Bridge, but I for one can't wait for Haswell..

      • xii
      • 7 years ago

      That settles it then, the economists must be wrong…

      • HisDivineOrder
      • 7 years ago

      No, this makes sense. Haswell is built for tablets and ultrathins that absolutely are thin and need the lowest power they can get. These are the most expensive devices with the longest battery life.

      Everything else (and especially desktops) gets IB for a long time to come. They don’t need anything more. But for those ultra portable devices (and espcially expensive Windows 8 x64 tablets), Haswell is very much needed.

      Then, over time, as IB-E rolls out and then IB overall begins to reduce in numbers… Haswell comes in waves to notebooks, then to desktops. This is the way the desktop enthusiast market dies. Not with a loud bang (“No more!”), but a whimper (“It’ll come… eventually.”).

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      I dont think haswell will change any demand beside mobile.

      You might see one rush of upgrades following the upcoming console refresh,
      but I dont have much hope for the gamer PC market to expand like it did 10 years ago.

      The evolution will now happen at the low end.
      And expect to pay top $$$$ for your number crunching CPU…

        • NeelyCam
        • 7 years ago

        If by “mobile” you mean laptops/ultrabooks, then yes – I think Haswell will boost demand significantly. That’s most of the PC market now, anyway

    • Metonymy
    • 7 years ago

    Best Buy is going to introduce a tablet. Oh yeah.

      • chuckula
      • 7 years ago

      [url<]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1ZcKc4Pc8[/url<]

      • Meadows
      • 7 years ago

      Isn’t that the company that’s slowly going out of business?

        • CuttinHobo
        • 7 years ago

        Too slowly. =/

          • sweatshopking
          • 7 years ago

          yeah, less choice all around would be better! i want to be unable to actually purchase something in a store if i want!

            • Deanjo
            • 7 years ago

            Well wadda you know, I agree SSK. Since most of the time I can find product I want locally around the same price or cheaper the only time I order online is when I can’t find a local supplier.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            awwwww… that’s great! it means you’re not TOTALLY insane! ♥ 😉

            • Deanjo
            • 7 years ago

            Besides, as long as the local retailer isn’t completely out to lunch on the price, I would rather support the local business as it brings employment to the local community.

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            Wow, I can’t believe [i<]I[/i<] agree with Deanjo.. I feel exactly the same way. If the price is in the ballpark, I rather by locally. But it's just that buying from Amazon/Newegg/etc. is just so convenient, and they have [i<]everything[/i<]. Also, I really like the item reviews in webstores. If B&M Best Buy offered almost everything, had reviews on items (don't know how they'd implement that), and [b<]stopped the annoying high-pressure sales tactics[/b<], I'd go there much more often.

            • Deanjo
            • 7 years ago

            Well BB here doesn’t really use any sales tactics. They are just your typical minimum wage employee that approaches you and ask “Can I help you?” because they are required to do so. They could care less if you bought it or not because it makes no difference in wage for them.

            • CuttinHobo
            • 7 years ago

            Fewer bad choices, you mean! BestBuy doesn’t seem to do anything better than its rivals. They’re more expensive and – at least the store here – have a lackluster selection of products. The only reason they’re still around today is because it takes a while for such a large critter to starve to death.

            The one thing I’ve gotten there in the past few years was a sound system, and that was only because redeeming my credit card points was best done with gift cards to various retailers.

            I won’t miss them. There are other local options.

      • BIF
      • 7 years ago

      Yes, I’ll bet Best Buy has it for $499, but then they tack on a $999.95 extended warranty.

    • dpaus
    • 7 years ago

    I’d post ‘Frizt!!’ but I don’t want to ruin SSK’s night.

      • sweatshopking
      • 7 years ago

      you made with your post about me being a sexy ladies man.

        • entropy13
        • 7 years ago

        Windows Phones aren’t “sexy ladies”.

          • James296
          • 7 years ago

          tempted..oh so tempted to make a wise-crack about your post but I will remain true and not say anything.

          • sweatshopking
          • 7 years ago

          no, but your mom is! ohhhhh burn!!! mom jokes!!

            • entropy13
            • 7 years ago

            My mom isn’t exactly sexy though. And she’s quite small.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            you couldn’t have feigned anger, could you? something to make me look like a man in front of my friends? thanks a lot…

            • entropy13
            • 7 years ago

            Why would I go White Whale, Holy Grail?

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            you mean “try to go white whale”. your attacks would bounce off my level 50 pectorial muscles.

            • entropy13
            • 7 years ago

            Eh? But I’m supposed to target your eyes.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            yeah, but my huge chest would prevent it. you wouldn’t be able to reach.

            • entropy13
            • 7 years ago

            But there are “harpoon guns” so range is not really a problem.

            • dpaus
            • 7 years ago

            Obviously, both of you have ‘harpoon guns’ for each other, and the only ‘range’ in question is the lonely one you two cowboys would like to be out on, alone with each other…

            Right, right, ‘sheep herders’, not cowboys – got it.

            • entropy13
            • 7 years ago

            I’m a whale hunter while he’s a white whale, how can a white whale have harpoon guns?

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            i have a giant harpoon. it’s pretty big. ask my wife

            • dpaus
            • 7 years ago

            Did you just call your wife a white whale?!!? :-O

            You better pray she doesn’t log in here. Or that none of us send her a link……

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            We’ve had that discussion before – SSK has said wifey doesn’t read TR (was it something like she thinks nerds are uninteresting?)

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            my wife is the kind of girl that reads kijiji and facebook auctions. she’ll read biology crap, but she hates nerd tech. she actually makes fun of me for even being on this site. sometimes i cry.

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