Rumor: 10”, 300-PPI Nexus tablet coming Oct. 29

We know Google has an Android event scheduled for October 29—invites went out last week—but we don’t know exactly what the company has planned. The folks at The Next Web claim to have a pretty good idea, though. They say a "source with knowledge of Google’s plans" tipped them off to pretty much every item on the agenda.

Among those items: a new version of Android, numbered 4.2, and a Nexus-branded tablet with a 10", ultra-high-density display. Word is that this "Nexus 10" tablet will be built by Samsung and will feature an impressive 2560×1600 display resolution. That would work out to a pixel density of 300 PPI, substantially higher than the new iPad’s 264 PPI. (The Apple tablet has a 9.7" screen with a 2048×1536 resolution.)

There are no details about the Nexus 10 tablet’s exact specs. However, driving that kind of a screen may not require anything stupendously powerful. Nvidia demoed its Tegra 3 SoC streaming 1440p video to a 2560×1600 panel all the way back in February 2011, when Tegra 3 was still known by its code name, Kal-El.

The Next Web claims Google will also unleash a new Nexus phone, the LG Nexus 4, as well as two 32GB versions of its existing, Asus-produced Nexus 7 tablets at the event. One of those 32GB Nexus 7 models will feature HSPA+ connectivity, while the other will just have plain-old Wi-Fi.

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    • MadManOriginal
    • 7 years ago

    So the way I’m reading this is….7 days until Apple suddenly decides that PPI isn’t the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    • HisDivineOrder
    • 7 years ago

    Pop out a 10″ 300PPI Nexus tablet, Google, and pop it out at $300 with 32gb flash. That’ll spoil Windows RT and iPad Air’s week.

    Price it any higher and you might as well just not bother.

      • ludi
      • 7 years ago

      And while we’re dreaming…a pony.

        • raddude9
        • 7 years ago

        The 32gb Nexus 7 looks like it’s going to be $250, so if they keep the same innards (maybe up-clocked a bit) that extra $50 only has to buy you a slightly better screen and a bigger battery, it should be possible.

          • ludi
          • 7 years ago

          You think a 10″, 300dpi display is a “slightly better screen” compared to the older display on the Nexus 7?

          iSuppli estimated the iPad2 display at $97 (of which $40 was for the touchscreen) versus a total of $127 for the third-gen model with the higher pixel density:
          [url<]http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/New-iPad-32-GB-4G-Carries-364-35-Bill-of-Materials.aspx[/url<] That was a change of $30 just to go high-density at the same physical size, and that was only to 264ppi -- at 300ppi Google would be buying the cream of the crop, not including the cost of any other hardware changes.

    • maxxcool
    • 7 years ago

    Want to impress me? give me built in driver support for USB 3G wifi dongles, and more than one micro usb port and a micro SD slot…

    the current nexus can run a few 3g dongles with the right .ko but battery life is abysmal…

    • Decelerate
    • 7 years ago

    Anything’s good to keep Apple on their toes and Microsoft pushing to catch up.

    Viva la competencia!

    • jjj
    • 7 years ago

    Not a fan of stupidly high res,you get very little benefits while using more power to drive (and sometimes illuminate) the extra pixels.We would be better off with better screens and proper calibration,although that’s not a marketing feature like pointless higher res.
    As for the SoC in the tablet, since the rumour is that it’s a Samsung, my bet is on dual A15.The new Chromebook is using it so it wouldn’t be surprising to see it in a tablet soon.A quad Krait would be nice too but that wouldn’t be a wise choice for Samsung- assuming Samsung has a say in what parts are chosen,It’s far better to have the OS optimized for your own SoC first and take advantage of that in your future prods.
    The sad part is that it will be likely be priced at 500$ and Google doesn’t include a SD slot in it’s Nexus devices (the greed epidemic is spreading) so… nothing interesting,moving along.

    • blastdoor
    • 7 years ago

    This is just as silly as Hz competition. Apple probably overshot a little on resolution, but they had a good software reason for doing it. Since android was already fragmented with respect to screen resolution, there was no need for these guys to overshoot on resolution, but not only did they do it, they are now going even further. It’s the same kind of mindless “mine is bigger than yours” competition that used to dominate the PC space. The result is going to be android devices that are more expensive or less profitable than necessary.

    • Omniman
    • 7 years ago

    I hope Google will allow the Nexus 7 to receive a few new OS upgrades and not just throw a new tablet out with every OS release.

      • Forge
      • 7 years ago

      I think you misunderstand. 4.2 is coming to the existing Nexus 7s, most likely on the same day. It’ll be available for every other Nexus device in a matter of days or weeks, except for certain abominations like the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and that’s because Google provides the firmware update, and then Verizon wants to stare at it for several months, to make sure it doesn’t move….

      This isn’t Apple land, where my iPad 1 doesn’t get OS updates just because Apple has stopped selling it.

        • sweatshopking
        • 7 years ago

        Apple pretty much has the best track record for mobile device support. 3gs gets ios , etc.

          • brucethemoose
          • 7 years ago

          The 3gs doesn’t get iOS 6, and it doesnt really add anything to the IP4.

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 7 years ago

            The 3GS does get iOS 6: [url<]http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/tempting-fate-installing-ios-6-on-the-iphone-3gs/[/url<] ....and iOS 6 brings the vast majority of its features to the iPhone 4. Where'd you get your info?

          • nico1982
          • 7 years ago

          Well, if you just look at the shiny OS version number, sure.

          Apple’s devices pretty much get borked after 2 years with one of those iOS updates 😛 The iPhone 3G was killed by iOS4 and I didn’t see many improvement on the iPhone 4 with iOS6 😛

          • Shambles
          • 7 years ago

          You do realize that when apple rolls out iOS updates to older devices that they strip out features right? Just because it might say iOS 6 in your settings doesn’t mean you have the same OS as another phone running iOS6.

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            Some of the updates require specific hardware, and as such cannot be implemented. I do realize it’s not perfect, but find me a company doing better. Certainly not in the android world…

        • maxxcool
        • 7 years ago

        LOL! > “”Verizon wants to stare at it for several months, to make sure it doesn’t move….””

        • geewhiz
        • 7 years ago

        [quote<]except for certain abominations like the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and that's because Google provides the firmware update, and then Verizon wants to stare at it for several months, to make sure it doesn't move....[/quote<] LOL. So true.

      • d0g_p00p
      • 7 years ago

      My Nexus 7 just got version 4.1.2 update a couple of weeks ago, so yes hopefully the Nexus 7 will be supported for some time.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 7 years ago

      Yeah, even the Nexus S got Jelly Bean. I see no reason for their tablets to be any different. Especially if they’re working on UI responsiveness and performance – it should get faster on the same hardware.

    • deruberhanyok
    • 7 years ago

    I would be far more interested in a 10″ tablet with a 300 hour battery life than a 300 ppi display.

    1080p is plenty fine on a 10″ tablet, guys. Spend some of that R&D money on better battery technology, or some sort of idle charging techniques, like this one from three years ago:

    [url<]http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadgets/article/2009-06/nokia-working-infinite-cellphone-battery[/url<]

      • nico1982
      • 7 years ago

      I would agree, but once you come down to earth, you realize that moving from 1920×1080 to 2560×1600 is a relatively small and cheap evolutionary step, while improving the battery life 30-fold is just sci-fi 🙂
      On top of that, 2560×1600 match the magic 300 dpi number, and it is better than the competition’s trump card, so it makes a lot of sense for them to pursue it.

      This is not to say that 24 hours of video playback or browsing would not be welcomed 😛

        • deruberhanyok
        • 7 years ago

        Small moves, Ellie. Small moves.

    • Arag0n
    • 7 years ago

    2560×1600 panel or something at the same range would be a stupid waste of resources…. specially since NO ANDROID TABLET has better GPU than the iPad. Games will need to dumb down models and textures too much to keep the framerate playable that the increase of sharpness from resolution won’t help at all…

      • raddude9
      • 7 years ago

      Sure, it’ll need a powerful GPU to run 3d games at 2560×1600, but it doesn’t take much GPU power to run 2d games and web browsers at that resolutions, and that’s most of what I use my tablet for if I’m honest.

        • Arag0n
        • 7 years ago

        I’m sure you would have a hard time telling the difference from 1920×1080 to 2560×1600…. yeah, sure should look better but then the problem is that your integrated GPU will be working with a much higher load, using more memory, consuming more energy and needing a bigger battery just to deliver the same experience. I believe the benefits are much lower than the costs right now, since the increase of power needed is far from negligible.

      • Alexko
      • 7 years ago

      I believe Qualcomm’s APQ8064 with its Adreno 320 GPU is a bit faster than the iPad 3’s. Or at least fast enough to handle this definition well.

      Tegra 3 would be far too slow, though.

        • Beelzebubba9
        • 7 years ago

        Yeah, the Qualcomm S4 Pro with the Adreno 320 in cellphone guise is as fast to slightly faster than the SGX 543 MP4 in the iPad 3, so it could be even faster with a tablet’s higher power envelope.

      • Arclight
      • 7 years ago

      What if games run at lower resolution?

      • nico1982
      • 7 years ago

      Running a game on a 10″ tablet with a 2560×1600 screen at native resolution is dumb to begin with.

      • Squeazle
      • 7 years ago

      They’re casual games at best. If you don’t see a discernible difference, does it really matter?

      And I really don’t think the point of tablets is marketed or meant to be in the gaming realm.

        • MadManOriginal
        • 7 years ago

        You think wrong. ‘Casual gaming’ is a big deal for tablets and smartphones.

          • Squeazle
          • 7 years ago

          Same label of casual gaming though. You can sell a lot of pringles but the end product is still potato dust. Same applies here. You sell a lot of games, but that promises no story arc, or high end graphics, or anything more than engaging gameplay motions.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 7 years ago

            [quote<]And I really don't think the point of tablets is marketed or meant to be in the gaming realm[/quote<] That's the part of your post to which I was replying...just because [i<]you[/i<] don't consider 'casual games' part of the 'gaming realm' does not make it true.

            • Squeazle
            • 7 years ago

            True. I was wrong on that point. And although I protest the content of casual games, I still play them and accept they are part of the gaming world.

      • Hattig
      • 7 years ago

      I guess this new tablet will be using Exynos 5, like the new Chromebook. I’m sure the Mali T604 graphics in there can compete with the SGX543MP4 in the iPad 3. Or they could scale the games up.

      • designerfx
      • 7 years ago

      People don’t even run games on desktop pcs with top of the line cards at 2560×1600 successfully (I don’t consider 30FPS successful).. That doesn’t mean it has no use.

        • forumics
        • 7 years ago

        well to be fair i’ll bet games wasn’t really on google’s mind when they decided to create a tablet that would beat the ipad on its own turf.

      • Aegaeon
      • 7 years ago

      It’s exactly double the 1280X800 resolution of the Nexus 7, just like the ipad3 doubled the resolution of the ipad2. Developers could target 1280×800 for 3D games on the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. Far from being a “waste”, 2560X1600 will be quite handy for browsing digital photos…

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