Release roundup: Touch-screen monitors, liquid cooling, and tiny PCs

Considering the sheer number of releases that made it into our regular coverage this past week, there isn’t much left for the roundup. All we have is a handful of announcements from Cooler Master, LG, and Via:

  • Cooler Master releases Seidon 120M liquid cooler. Cooler Master is getting back into the self-contained liquid cooling biz. The firm’s new Seidon 120M cooler features a "high performance waterblock" machined out of a single piece of copper and filled with "special Micro Channels that maximize heat dissipation." Meanwhile, the bundled 120-mm fan is of the PWM variety and operates between 600 and 2400 RPM. Cooler Master quotes a $69.99 price tag, but I see the Seidon 120M already listed at Newegg for only $54.99 with free shipping.

  • LG unveils advanced Touch 10 monitor optimized for Windows 8. We’ve seen plenty of touch-enabled tablets, laptops, and all-in-ones tailored for Windows 8, but the same can’t be said for standalone monitors. LG’s new Touch 10 ET83 is an exception. This 23" monitor has an IPS panel and multi-touch input that can recognize up to 10 fingers simultaneously. LG offers a capacitive stylus for folks eager to draw on the thing, too. (The stylus is sold separately.) Unfortunately, LG isn’t revealing much else about the panel right now. It only says the Touch 10 will debut this month in Korea, "followed by markets in Europe and elsewhere."

  • Via claims world’s smallest x86 quad-core system. We don’t hear much about Via these days, but clearly, the company is still keeping busy making tiny PCs. Its new Artigo A1250 system features a 1GHz Via QuadCore processor and a VX11H chipset with Chromotion 5.0 graphics, which supports DirectX 11, stereoscopic 3D output, and 1080p hardware video acceleration. The system has room up to 8GB of RAM, and it includes a 2.5" drive bay with 3Gbps SATA connectivity. External inputs and outputs include HDMI, VGA, Gigabit Ethernet, dual USB 3.0, and dual USB 2.0. Despite all of that, the Artigo A1250 is only the "size of a paperback novel," with dimensions of 6.97" x 4.92" x 1.18".

As nice as that LG display might be, I’m still not convinced about the concept of holding your arm out in front of you to operate a PC. Keyboards and mice aren’t exactly lacking when you have the comfort of a desk and a chair at your disposal.

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    • themattman
    • 7 years ago

    “Artigo A1250 is only the “size of a paperback novel,” Let’s hope Via rewrites an ending that fits, Instead of a Silicon Valley horror!

    Sorry, that’s what this reminded me of!

    • mutarasector
    • 7 years ago

    I don’t know about using one of these for a Win8 desktop, but i could see 2 to 4 of these used in portrait mode for use with this software: [url<]http://www.softwareaudioconsole.com/[/url<] in order to build my own custom digital live audio desk.

    • Arclight
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]•LG unveils advanced Touch 10 monitor optimized for Windows 8.[/quote<] Yes, yes, go sideways every damn 3 or so years, do anything other than increase resolution. Till this year it was 3d now it's multi-touch. You know what? I'm having a Linus moment right now

    • internetsandman
    • 7 years ago

    Cooler Master: me too! Me too!

    • Squeazle
    • 7 years ago

    Almost considering some sort of sweet cooling option like self contained water cooler for my CPU.

    Fortunately I’m poor, so I have to improvise with my good old hunks of copper that have worked just fine for the last 5 years, and will work fine for the next 5. Even with the prevalence of liquid-based coolers, I still favor the least number of moving parts when building things.

      • Delphis
      • 7 years ago

      I also favor the least amount of liquid in my computer when building them.

      I MAY go for GPU cooling for a number of boards in a single system SOME time. But just adding up what’s needed is pretty spendy.

    • Chrispy_
    • 7 years ago

    [quote<]I'm still not convinced about the concept of holding your arm out in front of you to operate a PC[/quote<] This is why W8 is generating so much hate for the power users. It's a touchscreen interface first and foremost and we [i<]just don't have or want touchscreen devices[/i<]. The ergonomics are woeful and asides from being uncomfortable and impractical, it doesn't even add any benefit.

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      It’s not only the “power users” that hate it. My senior citizen father bought a new PC with it on it and has been struggling all week with it. He’s bringing it down to me this weekend to wipe it and slap on 7.

        • Chrispy_
        • 7 years ago

        The first of dozens of W8 to W7 downgrades I expect you’ll be doing over the next few years 😉

    • albundy
    • 7 years ago

    touchscreen is great for kiosks at banks and trade shows, but useless otherwise.

    • esc_in_ks
    • 7 years ago

    The Via box could be interesting for some embedded purposes, like a small router. But, it’s 27W TDP and, according to the data sheet, it’s not passively cooled.

    No thanks, I’ll stick with Soekris net5501 or net6501 boxes instead. Despite their high price, Soekris boxes have been extremely reliable for me.

      • just brew it!
      • 7 years ago

      Odd that they show a WiFi antenna coming out the back, but WiFi isn’t listed as a feature here or on their web site. Maybe there’s a WiFi add-in module that wasn’t quite ready for the initial product release?

        • dmjifn
        • 7 years ago

        It’s an optional accessory?
        Their product datasheet PDF calls out the area as “1x Antenna hole reserve cutout to support WiFi networking”. Their download page has a 32MB wireless lan driver for download. And the manual lists a separate part numbers for the optional WAN module… which says “USB”. I wonder if it’s an internal module, internally connected via USB.

    • Duck
    • 7 years ago

    Friends don’t let friends buy Via.

      • DrCR
      • 7 years ago

      Actually, it looks like just what I’m looking for for a home theatre PC.

      And superior recommendations?

      P.s. I have a NAS elsewhere for storage, but I could just use a USB enclosure if I want data onsite.

        • Deanjo
        • 7 years ago

        [quote<]And superior recommendations?[/quote<] Raspberry Pi

          • mcnabney
          • 7 years ago

          Raspberry Pi is a lot of things, but full HTPC support is not one of its features.

            • Deanjo
            • 7 years ago

            A Raspberry Pi is going to be able to do anything that the Artigo A1250 is going to be able to do. It’s not like you are going to be able to slap a cable card tuner into it so it essentially becomes a playback machine and the Pi is easily able to run the best media center software out there, XBMC. Heck it even has HDMI-CEC capability and can be even powered by the USB port found on the back of most flatpanel TV’s.

    • jjj
    • 7 years ago

    You missed the NZXT Kraken X40 and X60 AIO water coolers.
    The X60 has to be the first with a 280mm rad. [url<]http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/cpu_cooler/kraken_x60[/url<] As for the touchsreen,i'm not a fan of poking at the monitor or having fingerprints on it but the real problem is,for now, the cost.At 23 inch, TN monitors should be some 350-400$ and IPS easily 500-650$.Ofc prices will come down a bit but not a lot before the industry gets rid of some layers of glass and the touch sensor gets cheaper.

      • chuckula
      • 7 years ago

      Good call on those coolers. They look like rebranded Aseteks (which is a good thing since Asetek is pretty much #1 in this market). Asetek just announced a new generation of watercoolers + radiators and this looks like it is using their newest stuff.

      • rogthewookiee
      • 7 years ago

      I want one! I have a Lian Li PCB25 with two 140’s on the top. I just don’t want to retrofit to 120’s for the H100.

    • absurdity
    • 7 years ago

    I’m still not sold on the idea of touch-screens for desktops either. I have to fully extend my arm to touch my screen, doesn’t feel like a good way to use my system!

      • UberGerbil
      • 7 years ago

      A neighbor who is an architect showed me his set-up recently: he’d put a touchscreen at about a 45° angle below his primary screen, right in between it and his keyboard. I hadn’t seen anything like that before, and it wouldn’t work for everyone, but it’s an interesting way to employ such a thing.

        • SnowboardingTobi
        • 7 years ago

        That’s basically what I’ve been envisioning: make it possible to let me dock a Win8 tablet where I could keep the metro/modern UI permanently on, while I keep my main monitor(s) with just the normal desktop interface. And if there was something on the tablet I wanted up on the main monitor, it would let me move it over with a simple swipe in the direction of where the monitor is.

          • cynan
          • 7 years ago

          While that sounds cool and all, how is a tablet going to drive multiple monitors with any degree of proficiency, if at all?

            • demani
            • 7 years ago

            Well, the i5 tablets will probably do it just fine- the HD4000 graphics are sufficient for that.

            I have been looking at some of the ergotron desktop mounts specifically so I could get that touchscreen at a better angle (low and in front) when that time comes (right now I just need to mount a 24in next to a 27in, but I want to plan ahead). I would really like to try the whole setup out first, but I think I can be reasonably positive that is the kind of setup that will be most effective. But frankly, if lighting can be controlled that low angle/monitor at desk level setup is actually ergonomically better anyway (unless you’ve had a big lunch-then that low position just makes your eyes have closed anyway, making full closure far more difficult to fight off).

            • SnowboardingTobi
            • 7 years ago

            Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I meant that if I also had a desktop machine running Win8 and if I had a Win8 tablet as well, I wish there would be functionality to just have the 2 link together (bluetooth, WiFi, USB, whatever) and then provide the functionality I explained in my first post.

            Or even if it weren’t a Win8 tablet… maybe a ‘dumb’ touch screen where the computer with Win8 would let me keep the metro/start screen on it while I let the main desktop monitor be just for the Windows desktop.

        • glacius555
        • 7 years ago

        That somehow reminds me the Normandy from Mass Effect, the design of their machines and the crew members that never left them

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      And people thought this was a stupid idea!
      [url<]http://www.worth1000.com/entries/545337/monitor-wiper[/url<]

        • Arclight
        • 7 years ago

        It’s a f*cking jem. The only thing missing is a caption saying: “Where’s your God now?!”

          • McRuff
          • 7 years ago

          No what it is missing is a sticker saying Windows 8 compatible

      • esc_in_ks
      • 7 years ago

      There used to be a guy I worked with who would touch my monitor to point to things. Many times I’d told him not to. Finally, I got a tub of monitor wipes and when he did it, I’d point to the tub and tell him to do what he needs to do to get his greasy prints off of my monitor.

      After a few instances, he was trained and stopped touching my monitor.

      So, you can imagine, I’m not really the target audience for a touch screen monitor for my desktop setup.

        • Alexko
        • 7 years ago

        I hear you. When a droplet of water ends up on my monitor, causing diffraction around a few pixels, I go nuts. Or rather I would go nuts if I couldn’t clean it right away.

        No one’s ever getting me to use a touchscreen on anything other than a phone, if that.

      • nico1982
      • 7 years ago

      On the positive side, it will dramatically reduce the severity of postural deficiencies among the population 😛

      • ezrasam
      • 7 years ago

      In that case, I’m certain that we won’t like the “Iron-Man fame Jarvis” style 3D display either.

      We still need that obedient keyboard and a disobedient mouse/pointing device

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