Leaked roadmap suggests no Steamroller desktop chips next year

In August, AMD revealed the first nitty gritty details about Steamroller, the next version of its Bulldozer microarchitecture. Steamroller promises improvements in not only performance per clock, but also power efficiency. However, you may have to wait until 2014 to see the first chips based on the updated CPU design. Turkish site Donanim Haber has posted an official-looking roadmap suggesting that AMD’s desktop processors will use current Piledriver cores through 2013. Piledriver debuted in AMD’s Trinity APUs earlier this year and recently made its way to the FX family in a new chip dubbed Vishera. According to the roadmap, Vishera’s replacement may not come until 2014.

AMD does have some new desktop chips in the works for next year, of course. The roadmap claims we’ll see Richland, a new APU designed for Trinity’s FM2 socket, in 2013. That chip will purportedly retain Trinity’s Piledriver CPU cores but upgrade the integrated Radeon. Expect Richland’s CPU and GPU components to cooperate more closely thanks to enhancements based on AMD’s Heterogeneous System Architecture, otherwise known as HSA.

HSA will also feature in Kabini, the next-gen replacement for AMD’s low-power Brazos platform. Unlike Brazos 2.0, which sports the same Bobcat CPU cores as its predecessor, Kabini will be based on a new Jaguar microarchitecture. The roadmap says Kabini is due in 2013 in both socketed and SoC flavors. The system-on-a-chip will have an integrated platform hub, but it looks like the socketed version will not.

If the roadmap is legit, AMD’s focus for next year appears to be on APUs rather than traditional CPUs. That makes a certain amount of sense given the shape of the market. The latest numbers from IHS iSuppli claim performance PCs make up just 6.2% of the desktop market, which is otherwise split evenly between mainstream and value systems at 46.9% each. Integrated graphics should be more prevalent on mainstream and value PCs, although IHS appears to characterize systems based largely on price. Performance PCs are typically $1,000 and up, mainstream ones are between $500 and $1,000, and value systems cost less than $500.

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    • ronch
    • 7 years ago

    I am actually holding out for Steamroller and hoping that it’ll come out next year. There are rumors that it’s practically a new design (link below). If true, the delay may be partially excusable. Still, I’ve been itching to grab a new processor so it’s either Vishera or Ivy.

    [url<]http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-pushes-steamroller-and-excavator-forward-bullish-about-performance-increases/17088.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+vr-zone+%28VR-Zone+%7C+Coolest+Gadgets+for+Men%2C+Geek%2C+Nerd%2C+Overclockers+and+Enthusiast%29[/url<]

      • Deanjo
      • 7 years ago

      If you can wait a few months, wait for Haswell.

    • l33t-g4m3r
    • 7 years ago

    APU’s are the smart move with these windows 8 hybrids. Better than Intel HD 4000 systems anyway.

    • Bensam123
    • 7 years ago

    Yeah you could’ve seen this coming from the desktop refresh based on Piledriver. They aren’t going to refresh the processors just to replace them in like four months. I was hoping steamroller would come out next spring so I could replace my current desktop though. 🙁

    • Deanjo
    • 7 years ago

    *sigh* Remember the good old Athlon days when AMD had fabs and could spin out a new family every 6-8 months with multiple steppings inbetween? I miss those exciting days.

      • ish718
      • 7 years ago

      Before they broke themselves with the ATI purchase?

        • Deanjo
        • 7 years ago

        Actually it started with Ruiz’s decision to concentrate AMD’s server products leaving the AMD performance enthusiasts high and dry, then the selling off of the fabs, then the ATI deal, then quitting of licensing out chipsets, etc.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 7 years ago

    This is really a shame if true. Piledriver does a lot to improve the architecture to the point that it’s respectable performance-wise versus Ivy Bridge but Intel isn’t sitting still. Even if Steamroller was late 2013 that would be fine, but to see it disappear altogether is sad. I am considering an HTPC but Brazos is on the weak side, Atom too. Kabini has potential but won’t be a *huge* difference (25-30% faster CPU, a lot will depend on the GPU architecture. GCN please.) Intel’s IGPs are on the weak side. That leaves Trinity and Richland as the most balanced choices, Trinity isn’t bad but a Steamroller update that has improvements similar to Bulldozer-Piledriver would have been the ticket.

      • Farting Bob
      • 7 years ago

      I use a brazos (e-350) for my HTPC and it handles things fine for purely media consumption. If you arent gaming on it then its not a bad choice. If you want some light gaming, then look at trinity or cheap Celeron (SB based) or Pentium (IB based) combined with a low end GPU.

      If i was building my HTPC from scratch right now i would probably get the cheapest SB Celeron, a cheap mobo and 4GB of RAM and call it a day.

    • sydbot
    • 7 years ago

    Saw a blurb on Tom’s that Piledriver does not actually use the resonant clock mesh tech. Is that correct? Maybe they can work that into a Piledriver respin, or some other excuse for keeping it around.

      • ronch
      • 7 years ago

      Yes,, that is correct. Piledriver is using the flux capacitor, not the resonant clock mesh.

        • Farting Bob
        • 7 years ago

        Makes sense, their CPU’s do seem like they were designed in 1985.

          • ronch
          • 7 years ago

          Except Bulldozer would have totally blown Intel out of the water in 1985.

            • DancingWind
            • 7 years ago

            Morelike F22 in WW1 🙂

        • squeeb
        • 7 years ago

        LOL

    • tbone8ty
    • 7 years ago

    Roadmap is photoshopped and poorly made

      • brute
      • 7 years ago

      [quote<]poorly made[/quote<] what is AMD if not broke?

      • Grigory
      • 7 years ago

      Maybe AMD’s dire situation forced them to have the roadmap made by the Iranian government.

      • Meadows
      • 7 years ago

      Does not look photoshopped to me, although it appears they forgot to colour the quotation mark before “Vishera” correctly.

      • ronch
      • 7 years ago

      They just asked the janitor to do it since everyone has already left.

        • MadManOriginal
        • 7 years ago

        The janitor would be well qualified to clean up messes and make things look nice, so you may be right.

    • anotherengineer
    • 7 years ago

    2014

    I still won’t be ready to upgrade my old cpu then anyway.

    • ludi
    • 7 years ago

    Read: “It’s November, and we still need a roadmap for next year.”

    Naik: “Yeah, yeah, I’m looking Donanim Haber right now. They’re suggesting Piledriver and Richland on the desktop through 4Q13 and Steamroller as server-only for same.”

    Read: “Can we make it happen?”

    Papermaster: “I think so, technology-wise.”

    Read: “Okay, but money. Kumar?”

    Kumar: “We’ll be going to ATIC with our hat in our hands, as usual, but yeah.”

    Read: “Fine, make it happen. Kumar, wire the crew at Haber the usual consulting fee.”

    Kumar: “Will that be the usual Cayman shell account?” (*snicker*)

    Read: (*dirty look at Kumar*)

    Naik: “I’ll tell Su about it. What about LaForce?”

    Read: “Tell her to swipe the Haber chart and make a couple minor cosmetic changes for, you know, reasons, then slip a copy to The Inquirer. Okay, I think we’re done here.”

      • NeelyCam
      • 7 years ago

      +2. You should hire some students and put this on YouTube. Try to beat these guys:

      [url<]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM[/url<]

    • dpaus
    • 7 years ago

    OK, now that Donanim Haber has reported the rumour, we can believe it.

    So AMD is trying to position themselves to excel in just two segments of the market, which – combined! – make up barely 94% of the whole market?!? They’re doomed.

    The product planner in me can’t help but wonder if they’re holding back Steamroller-based APUs until they can truly merge their next-gen GPU technology into it.

      • suprem1ty
      • 7 years ago

      Only problem is that 94% of the market isn’t exactly high margin.

    • Helmore
    • 7 years ago

    I’ve heard rumors that Richland is made on 28 nm, is there any credibility to those rumors?

      • moose17145
      • 7 years ago

      Wtf is with the downvotes? All you did was ask a question.

        • bcronce
        • 7 years ago

        Welcome to TechReport, you must be new here.

      • MadManOriginal
      • 7 years ago

      Where did you read those rumors? I would think that Richland will still be 32nm since that’s what all other Piledriver CPUs are, including Trinity. It’s possible that Kabini will be amde on 28nm by a foundry other than GloFo since Brazos CPU is made on 40nm. I’m just guessing based on logic though, haven’t read anything in particular.

    • DPete27
    • 7 years ago

    Makes sense considering Vishera just came out and Trinity mobile chips were released back in May. I suspect Richland won’t make a May launch, probably a little later. So if Piledriver release times remain in place for Steamroller, we’re probably talking early 2014.

      • phileasfogg
      • 7 years ago

      My gut tells me the 2 chaps from Mubadala on the BOD will hold the APU team’s feet to the fire and make them execute like they’ve never done before. The graphics team has done very well in the past 2-3 years but I worry that with all the high-level defections to Qualcomm, Samsung etc. that team may not have the morale to fight the good fight.

      On a more positive note, AMD’s professional/workstation graphics cards are now very much more competitive with NV’s Quadro line than in previous gens; so there’s a chance they may take market share from Quadro. That segment is NV’s most profitable; so we can expect a price-war to break out very soon, if it hasn’t already.

    • brute
    • 7 years ago

    first

      • Grigory
      • 7 years ago

      First! (To downvote you.)

        • brute
        • 7 years ago

        we lost our downvote virginities to eachother.

        ive never felt so close to you

          • dpaus
          • 7 years ago

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            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

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            • Helmore
            • 7 years ago

            That seriously made me laugh :D.

            • dpaus
            • 7 years ago

            It made me throw up.

            • brute
            • 7 years ago

            why throw up? im hot like fermi, you know

            • NeelyCam
            • 7 years ago

            Morning sickness?

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

            is it yours?

            • Meadows
            • 7 years ago

            Why are you watching men giving it to each other?

            • sweatshopking
            • 7 years ago

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            • Meadows
            • 7 years ago

            Yes, but still.

            • ULYXX
            • 7 years ago

            lol. You’re a better man than I.

            • ronch
            • 7 years ago

            Apart from owning your own fab, right?

            • 5150
            • 7 years ago

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            • dpaus
            • 7 years ago

            Sadly, that [i<][b<]is[/i<][/b<] SSK's choice.

      • rwburnham
      • 7 years ago

      And?

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