Asus’ 4K monitor ships July 16, up for pre-order at $3,500

Remember that 4K monitor Asus announced a month ago? The 31.5" monster is due to ship July 16, and you can order one starting today. Amazon and Newegg both have pre-order pages up for the PQ321Q, which rings in at a jaw-dropping $3,500.

The PQ321Q is pretty swanky; its 3840×2160 resolution boasts more than twice as many pixels as the 2560×1600 resolution typical of 30" monitors. The resulting pixel density is higher, too: 140 versus 101 PPI. That density may not compete with the best notebook, tablet, and smartphone displays, but it’s a big step up from current desktop fare.

Thanks to Sharp’s IGZO panel tech, the PQ321Q promises wide 176° horizontal and vertical viewing angles. The screen also supports 10-bit color and has an eight-millisecond gray-to-gray response time. You can view the rest of the display’s essential stats right here.

Obviously, the PQ321Q is a pricey proposition. 30" displays like Dell’s UltraSharp U3011 sell for about $1,200 online, and 50" 4K TVs can be found for less than $100 more. Neither competes with the PQ321Q’s pixel density, though. This 32" Sharp monitor does, and it appears to be based on the same panel, but the asking price is nearly $5,000. In that context, Asus’ 31.5-incher looks like a relative bargain.

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    • Dezeer
    • 8 years ago

    Wake me up when I can get 3840 ร— 2400 under 30″.

      • Airmantharp
      • 8 years ago

      If you were intentionally trolling, you were successful. This kind of comment gets tiring fast.

      • cynan
      • 8 years ago

      You do realize that the PPI on these is analogous to a 16″ monitor at 1080p? I wish my 22″ monitors at work were at least 1080p…

        • Dezeer
        • 8 years ago

        Of course I realize what kind of ppi this monitor has and I think direct doubling of 1920 ร— 1200 to 3840 ร— 2400 in the range of 24″ to 26″ would allow better legacy resolution emulation. And to me 30″ monitor is just too big from ergonomic point of view.

          • Airmantharp
          • 8 years ago

          I agree that people have different perspectives on what is ergonomic, and that a 30″ monitor at standard desktop viewing distances can be cumbersome; I use one at home, and have two side-by-side in landscape (normal) orientation at work, monitoring the same system.

          At home, it’s on a desk just far enough away that I can view the whole screen at a glance, and not so far away that my corrected eyesight can’t resolve individual pixels. This works both for gaming and photo editing/other desktop production use. HP ZR30w here.

          At work, these are used for monitoring more than production, and they sit between 12″ and 18″ away. We have the brightness turned way down in order to make this comfortable to view and to limit the heat they radiate, and with the anti-glare solutions, this setup is also fairly ‘ergonomic’. Dell U3011’s here.

          Just wanted to share my experience; I do believe that smaller, higher-density panels have a purpose just as larger, lower-density panels also have a purpose, and further that those purposes aren’t necessarily predefined.

    • Diplomacy42
    • 8 years ago

    seems like just a year ago, the first 4k screens were in the $20,000 range.

    • Aliasundercover
    • 8 years ago

    Everyone raise your glass and drink a toast to early adopters. The wonderful folks with money to spare and a taste for shiny new toys will pave the way for the rest of us to get monitors better than this for a third the money. A few years after that the software might even work.

      • sschaem
      • 8 years ago

      Hummm.. how did that work out for people that got their Dell 2560×1600 30″ monitor in 2004?
      ~$1500 then, ~$1500 now…

      $1500 over 8 years thats ~$190 a year. I wonder who got the better deal ?

        • JustAnEngineer
        • 8 years ago

        I think I paid $1300 for the UltraSharp 3007WFP in late 2006 or early 2007. It’s the one PC component purchase that’s provided the biggest “Wow!” factor since I got an Amiga.

        • esterhasz
        • 8 years ago

        That’s the thing. These screens have to be designed from the ground up as consumer products to actually reach consumer prices. From the glass cutter to the cheap plastic.

        And 32″ is way too big to be useful for the majority of people – if we ever get high-dpi displays on the desktop for, let’s say, a grand, they’ll be in the 21″-24″ range. I’m not holding my breath.

        25×16 on 27″ is pretty nice already, so no hard feelings.

          • Airmantharp
          • 8 years ago

          Two words: Apple Retina.

          I get what you’re saying, and I agree with your overall point- these aren’t aimed at ‘real’ professional use- but that doesn’t mean that they won’t be used effectively by professionals or advanced amateurs.

          For reference, the 55″ Seiki 4k is pile of crap in every aspect except that it is 4k and IPS. Video and photography professionals, especially those video professionals using RED videography equipment snapped them up. They were on point in grabbing these things as soon as they were in stock and running them through their paces.

        • jihadjoe
        • 8 years ago

        To be fair, 1600p was never a mainstream resolution. It doesn’t exist outside of professional monitors, so there was little to be gained from economies of scale.

        4k is lined up to be the next big thing for TVs and consumer electronics. It should drop down in price fairly quickly. Just hoping it doesn’t drop down in quality. One thing 1600p and its professional roots had going for it was that the panels were always top-notch.

          • Airmantharp
          • 8 years ago

          You can say that about any resolution; none of them started out as ‘mainstream’, it’s just that mainstream desktop computing got to 1200p right when 1080p became popular in the TV space; and then it stuck, everywhere, and hasn’t really seen positive movement outside of Apple’s Retina initiative and now 4k.

            • Krogoth
            • 8 years ago

            16:10 has never been mainstream in its lifespan. It always has been a professional only ratio aspect and monitors with this aspect are priced accordingly.

            Widescreen monitors used to be niche, professional only before HDTV made 16:9 mainstream.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            1680×1050?

            We ran through various resolutions pretty quick, but it was my experience that 16:10 was the definition of ‘widescreen’ for computing until all of the glass-makers started putting out nothing but 16:9 (and we all cried).

    • Kougar
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]and 50" 4K TVs can be found for less than $100 more.[/quote<] Sure, if you want a 30Hz 4K TV like the Seiki. Is this ASUS panel at least 60Hz @ 4k?

    • Bauxite
    • 8 years ago

    IGZO is for color nerds, costs too damn much for everyone else.

    Meanwhile, let us know when they take the $400-from-factory 39″ 4k VA panel and give it a proper displayport capable of 60hz, so we can see how much markup it has.

      • Airmantharp
      • 8 years ago

      Just as a heads-up, there are a lot of color nerds on TR.

        • Bauxite
        • 8 years ago

        They can stay angry and poor, IGZO won’t ever be a mainstream panel

          • Airmantharp
          • 8 years ago

          Never say never?

          We didn’t think IPS would ever be a mainstream panel either.

    • albundy
    • 8 years ago

    isnt it just cheaper to get that 50″ Seiki 4K from TD for around $900 and change? they also have a 40″ for $700 too. theres a demo of it around with someone playing bioshock infinite and it looked fantastic!

      • Bauxite
      • 8 years ago

      needs a better input, as in not just hdmi

    • moose17145
    • 8 years ago

    >.> <.< … odd… i don’t see Deanjo posting about how he just bought four of these things… he must be too busy entering his credit card information into newegg to make a post….

    That being said… these are actually being released for cheaper than I was expecting considering the specs of them. They look like very good monitors indeed!

      • Airmantharp
      • 8 years ago

      After the LCD racket got busted, panel prices plummeted (and I alliterated!). At least for this transition, regulators are probably watching these guys very closely to ensure that they’re not colluding anti-competitively in an obvious manner. That means that prices should very quickly be within spitting distance of 1080p panel prices given the relatively small increase in manufacturing cost, and even that will disappear naturally as manufacturers reach greater economies of scale.

      • Deanjo
      • 8 years ago

      Been busy with flood waters on the homestead.

      [url<]http://www.flickr.com/photos/95715721@N03/[/url<]

        • moose17145
        • 8 years ago

        Oh man that doesn’t sound good. Also looks like you have the photos set to be private. Says I am not allowed to view them.

          • Deanjo
          • 8 years ago

          Try this.

          [url<]http://www.flickr.com/photos/95715721@N03/[/url<]

            • moose17145
            • 8 years ago

            OOF!!! That’s some bad flooding there!!! Hope nature starts cooperating soon for you and recedes the water! But there isn’t much you can do to fight nature when she decides to take things… Hopefully you haven’t lost too much in the flood! And where are you located? Almost looks like either the Dakotas or Iowa.

            Edit: forgot to mention, I like the panoramic picture you got! They look good! Not the flooding part… but the pictures themselves are cool!

            • Deanjo
            • 8 years ago

            Saskatchewan, middle of the prairie. That water isn’t even coming from an overflowing river, that’s just from a super saturated water table, regular rains (5 inches last week alone) and above normal snowfall this year. It has been steadily rising since this spring.

            • nanoflower
            • 8 years ago

            Ugh. That means the water isn’t going anywhere until you get a few weeks of dry warm weather. Which is going to be a problem since any evaporation is just going to help form new clouds to provide more rain. Maybe it’s time to start thinking about moving everything into an ark or at least a houseboat.

            • Deanjo
            • 8 years ago

            It’s been declared eligible for emergency services. A new road is being built from another direction since the existing municipal road is 6 feet under water. Once that is done, I can get some permanent berms built and a bridge so the farm is no longer cut off by water.

    • Bensam123
    • 8 years ago

    I’ve been spoiled by my VG248QE, I really don’t think I’ll accept another monitor as a successor until it does 120hz+ and has a 1-2ms GTG. My gaming demands it. Although it is nice to look at a moving painting every once in awhile, it doesn’t mesh well with FPS’s. Hopefully 48fps movies will become more common too and 30hz monitors will finally be pushed completely out, leaving 60hz to become the new 30.

      • Airmantharp
      • 8 years ago

      8ms is far from ‘slow’; I have a 204T in very good condition I could torture you with. It’s optimistically rated at 16-25ms, I believe (the stat may have floated, dear old Samsung).

      And I’m not aware of any 30Hz monitors? The Seiki 55″ is bandwidth limited, but it has been successfully shown to take a 120Hz input signal when fed 1080p.

      But yeah, 30Hz is a no go for any use other than secondary monitoring. It’d be good for that, but unless you’re affluent or making money with your stuff, $1500 is a lot for a secondary monitor.

        • Bensam123
        • 8 years ago

        [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/7120/some-quick-gaming-numbers-at-4k-max-settings[/url<] That would be a 30hz monitor... Forcing a higher hz signal into a monitor that isn't made for it is a good way to fry it. Most modern LCDs simply wont work at higher hz and they'll claim to be 'out of range' or something similar. Even old CRTs usually had protection against being fed a incompatible format instead of just displaying it. As this has come up many times, how aware you are of faster response times depends entirely on the person. There are some people that can't tell the difference between 25ms and 2ms, and there are others that can tell the difference between 4 and 2. It depends entirely on the person. I personally, as well as other people (usually gamers), can make out the difference and it makes a world of difference. That's why I can't justify going to the IPS paint smear.

    • tootercomputer
    • 8 years ago

    I always have problems with stuff like this where you really have to see it in person to appreciate. My run-of-the-mill monitor is sure not going to capture the pixel density described here, not is anyone else’s. Apart from t hose who work in graphics, who can really benefit from this? Are there any cards or games or anything else that yield this kind of pixel density?

    • south side sammy
    • 8 years ago

    so in about 10 years when the market is saturated by similar yet better monitors the majority of users will be able to purchase one………

    It is nice, FINALLY, to see the manufacturers start to move on this ever long, lackluster, part of hardware development that’s been severely neglected.

    • indeego
    • 8 years ago

    Refresh rate is missing. So curious! I wonder why?

      • RtFusion
      • 8 years ago

      Hmm, yeah that part is worrisome. IIRC, some 4K displays out now can only push 30 Hz and not 60 or even 120 Hz because of the current standard for HDMI and DP aren’t capable yet to handle the immense bandwidth needed to push 4K content at high refresh rates.

      I could be wrong though.

        • moose17145
        • 8 years ago

        Display port can handle 60Hz refresh, but not 120. As such I would be willing to bet this display will handle 60Hz without any issues if using a up to date display port. For 120Hz you would need Dual display port connections. Or to achieve 60Hz refresh over HDMI you would need dual HDMI connections.

        Wiki isn’t THE most reliable source, I know… but it’s good enough for the purposes of this thread as a source.
        [url<]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Specifications[/url<] That being said... even at 30Hz, it wouldn't matter for this monitor much. The target market for these things isn't gamers, think more CAD and Photoshop / ultra HD video editing and rendering, stuff like that. Hence the high quality 10 bit IPS panel. For those types of applications a 30 Hz refresh wouldn't matter as much. But with display port I suspect it will handle 60Hz. And I am sure if a gamer wishes to use one of these, Asus and newegg will both be more than happy to sell them one... or 100. As long as they are getting their profits they don't really care who is using it for what. But still the target market is professionals who can make productive use of a display like this. That being said... I think many people underestimate the impressiveness of the connections that drives these displays. At 10 bit color precision at 60Hz the video link needs to sustain a constant transfer rate of just a hair over 1.738 GB/sec! And that's assuming zero overhead for protocols or interference!

          • mcnabney
          • 8 years ago

          No it can’t. HDMI2 will be the first single cable to support 4k60.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            Your rebuttal lacks a source, and I’m (genuinely) interested in it. I have plenty of DP equipped systems and I am interested in 4k monitors for gaming and photography.

            • sschaem
            • 8 years ago

            No?

            Is AMD lying to us when they claim their card support 4096×2160 at 60hz via Displayport1.2 ?

            The DP1.2 chart show support of 3840×2160 60hz at 30bit color.

            • mcnabney
            • 8 years ago

            Two cables with Display port. Display port tops-out at 1080p60 3D. Multi-cable 4K has been around for over a decade.

            Displayport 1.2 goes up to 17.2Gb/s. 4Kp60 at 10bits is 22.28Gb/s. Even 8 bit is 17.84Gb/s.

            • sschaem
            • 8 years ago

            From the official spec website

            “Simple: One USB-sized connector or a Mini DisplayPort connector deliver 21.6 Gbps through one slim plug and play cable.”

            Other data rate:

            3840×2160@60hz 24bit = 11.94 Gbps
            4096×2160@60hz 24bit = 12.74Gbps
            3840×2160@60hz 30bit = 14.9 Gbps

            • Deadsalt
            • 8 years ago

            [url=http://www.displayport.org/embedded-systems/best-reasons-to-use-displayport-part-i//<]DisplayPort supports 4K at a full 60 frames per second, while HDMI does not.[/url<] From the DP org itself.

            • mcnabney
            • 8 years ago

            If you like 6 bit color, knock yourself out.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            You should probably be specific with your first post if you intend to pick fights (though I wouldn’t recommend picking fights here).

            • moose17145
            • 8 years ago

            No kidding… I think mcnabney either is confused or still thinking about older DP revisions, because current display port handles 4k at 60Hz with a 10 bit color depth via a single cable… you only need dual cables if you wanted 120Hz refresh, but good luck finding a 120Hz 4k monitor… making it kind of a moot point.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            Thanks for the update; I know I can look it all up, but I’d prefer to gather first-hand experience when possible, and it’s better for the thread.

            But given the panel in the Seiki 55″ 4k, you’d think that it’s just an electronics thing, since the panel can run at 120Hz, meaning that the panel is refreshing all ~8MP at 120 cycles per second from the electronics, but the electronics can only handle one HDMI/DVI link’s worth of bandwidth, so it can only upsample 1080p at that rate.

            • moose17145
            • 8 years ago

            Yea I seen a few of those fail 4k displays where they only have a HDMI or a DVI-D link, and I was like “wtf? really?”

            I reminds me of when Wireless N was first coming out, and they were advertising speeds in excess of 300mbps, and yet the hard lines and backbone were only 10/100…

            But either way, the only way you can get 120Hz refresh will be with dual DP 1.2 cables / ports. And if i am not mistaken, this monitor only has a single DP input. Making 120Hz impossible. Honestly I seriously doubt that this panel could handle 120Hz anyways though. Given it’s 8ms response times (just BARELY within the response range of a 120Hz monitor) and the 10 bit panel, this thing screams profession use. Not gaming use. But I do hope to see cheaper, more gaming oriented models coming soon(tm). But 120Hz will have to require dual DP ports, or until a new DP standard comes out that can effectively double it’s transfer rate. I would be willing to accept 8 bit color precision at a lower price, but man oh man do I like the idea of being able to game on a 10 bit panel!

            • Bauxite
            • 8 years ago

            In wireless N’s defense (sort of) that “300mbps” was a pie in the sky dream only measured in labs, didn’t count overhead, shared and half duplex…so 100mbps ethernet had no problems feeding it.

            But yeah, some of the early things having a 8M pixel panel capable of high refresh rates and crippling it with the wannabe consumer hdmi standard while not including even a single royalty free displayport should be a crime.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            I certainly don’t consider it a crime; from a glass half-full perspective (or glass full of pee, if you prefer), just getting that product in a US store without gouging on price was itself an achievement. The thing was on sale for ~$1200 soon after it came out, before settling back closer to it’s MSRP of $1500. But even that is a stab to the kidneys for the established manufacturers, whose 4k TVs arrived shortly later in stores and averaged $5,000. Sharp, Sony, Samsung, LG and others may be shipping far better 4k TVs, but they’re not >4x the price better, and Seiki is calling them out.

            • moose17145
            • 8 years ago

            It’s not that we are trying to openly dismiss your claims right off the bat… but we have provided multiple sources backing up our claims while you have not. If you can provide us with a reliable source proving yourself right, then we will concede to it… I know i linked wiki knowing it’s pitfalls, but even they have links to the official spec sheets for the various display standards, which ARE reliable and back up what is being claimed.

            Or… somebody can just buy one of these and let us know if it supports 10 bit color depth @ 60Hz @ its native res. I am sure at least someone will. Honestly I expect Deanjo to be the one to do it first. He expressed interest in these the instant the first article about them came out, and from that sounds of it he has a legitimate work related use for them. So if he does get one (or a few of these), I will be legitimately interested in his honest opinion of these.

            • Bauxite
            • 8 years ago

            Some of the early displays only have DP 1.1 or have to use MST or have something weird about their control boards, probably where all his confusion is coming from.

            1.2 is totally capable.

      • PenGun
      • 8 years ago

      Wrong thread.

    • lilbuddhaman
    • 8 years ago

    I decided to read up a bit on IGZO tech, and i think the most important thing I got from it is this:
    [quote<]they can be built with under a 2mm bezel. [/quote<] Eyefinity 4k x 3 anyone? (not me! I'm too poor!)

      • Farting Bob
      • 8 years ago

      the only problem i see with having 3 of these hooked up together would be my constant erection every time i used it.

      • jihadjoe
      • 8 years ago

      I wonder how many Titans you’d need to drive that…

    • kamikaziechameleon
    • 8 years ago

    If you work in a graphics intensive industry this is a exciting product to behold.

      • dpaus
      • 8 years ago

      I wish it was 40″ – that would make the extra resolution more usable on the desktop, at least with text-based applications like monster spreadsheets, multi-page document management, data diagrams, etc.

      As a test, I put both a 37″ HDTV and a 42″ HDTV on my desk. Yes, a 40″ display is workable. Plus you can hide in your office much better.

        • Parallax
        • 8 years ago

        There’s a 39″ version that should be available in early 2014. The panel is being sold in China right now in TVs that cost ~$700 USD.

          • mesyn191
          • 8 years ago

          Wonder why some company hasn’t bought some up and started selling them here in the US a la the cheap Korean 1440p screens.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            Look up Seiki.

            • mesyn191
            • 8 years ago

            But they do TV’s and not PC monitors. There can be a gigantic difference in the panels outside of just resolution that would make a 4K TV inferior to a 1440p PC monitor.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            Absolutely, but the fact that such a panel exists and can be used for that purpose is itself notable, and if the available panel is sub-optimal, then there is a proven market demand for something better.

    • sschaem
    • 8 years ago

    I will wait to see what OEM are going to do with the new 38″ 3840×2160 panels in production.

    So far seiki announced a TV based on those (HDMI1.4 only, thin bezel) for $700 for sale aug 5th
    Maybe we are going to see Korean OEM offer this in PC monitor, also in the ~$700 range…

    The 38.5″ seiki take the exact same desk space as three 24″ monitor side by side in portrait mode.
    Its big, but tis not to crazy big…

      • mcnabney
      • 8 years ago

      The 39″ 4K Seiki’s ideal viewing distance will be between 2-3′. From that distance you will be able to see the maximum amount of detail (equivalent to sitting the same distance away from a 19.5″ 1080p display.
      If you have a big desk or can wall mount these 39″ Seiki’s should be a top draw…. when the displays and graphics cards are updated to HDMI2. So late winter/early spring 2014.

    • drfish
    • 8 years ago

    Of course this baby is drool worthy but considering the price and the hardware you’d need to game on it this is not the monitor we’ve been looking for.

    Bang for the buck wise [i<]nothing[/i<] beats a $300 27" Korean import.

      • Airmantharp
      • 8 years ago

      I wish I’d waited a year or so on my 30″ some times, as I could have gotten three 27″ panels for the same price; though I’d probably have to go through seven or eight to find three that I’d want to keep. I think it would have been worth it outside of the fact that I’d be wanting to try and game across all of them, and I’d go broke trying to keep up with the video cards :).

    • KikassAssassin
    • 8 years ago

    Anyone considering buying one of these, be sure to make room in your budget for the $4000 worth of video cards you’re going to need to run games at 60 fps on it. ๐Ÿ™‚

    [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/7120/some-quick-gaming-numbers-at-4k-max-settings[/url<]

      • yogibbear
      • 8 years ago

      2 x 780GTX’s should be plenty?

        • internetsandman
        • 8 years ago

        GTX780 < GTX Titan, and 4 Titans barely reached 60 FPS in two of those examples

          • yogibbear
          • 8 years ago

          Settings used were stupid. See comments regarding AA below.

            • Chrispy_
            • 8 years ago

            Agreed. AA and AO are a massively wasteful way to spend resources beyond a certain point; they take the concept of diminishing returns to a whole new level.

            • Derfer
            • 8 years ago

            I doubt anyone agreeing with this is speaking from experience. 1440p offered me no relief from jaggies and I can still see them on these ultra high ppi tablet games even when they’re running the native res. I doubt those settings will be “stupid” until at least 8k, but hell maybe we’ll still have jaggies.

            • Waco
            • 8 years ago

            I just switched to a 2560×1440 panel and it definitely needs less AA to be pleasing to the eye than my prior 1920×1080 panel.

            Where 8x or 4x AA before was almost a must…I find myself quite happy with 2x AA along with the free boost in performance.

            • Airmantharp
            • 8 years ago

            I agree with you that they aren’t terribly useful for showing us what it will take to get started with 4k, but in Anandtech’s defense, maxing out the settings and running with 4x Titans does set a decent baseline for future comparison. It’s not like graphics cards are going to get slower with time, after all.

        • jihadjoe
        • 8 years ago

        According to the article 3x7950s are even better!

          • Airmantharp
          • 8 years ago

          They should (could) be; still waiting on AMD’s drivers to be wrung out by TR/Anandtech. I’m sure AMD is taking their time to get this one right, though, and that’s definitely appreciated.

      • Parallax
      • 8 years ago

      Note that those numbers are all using “max” settings, which may apply large amounts of AF/AA. The titan probably does well in this test because of its larger memory that doesn’t need to be shared between multiple GPU chips like on the 690.

        • KikassAssassin
        • 8 years ago

        Yeah, it looks like those Sleeping Dogs numbers are with “full SSAA”, which is nuts. If that’s 4xSSAA, then it’s rendering at, what, 15360×8640? It’s pretty impressive that even four Titans can pull off 60 fps with that.

      • kilkennycat
      • 8 years ago

      A single GTX780 will be plenty. It fully supports this resolution. This monitor is NOT intended for gaming. See the 8ms response. The target customers will be large-print graphics artists, high-resolution/high-quality PhotoShop applications, and CAD-CAM requiring significant detail over large areas – a typical need for integrated-circuit layout specialists.

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 8 years ago

    Less than a [u<]$100[/u<] for a 4k TV? That's WAY less than what I paid for my 1080p LED tv... :/ Edit: Reading comprehension fail. ๐Ÿ™

    • ludi
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]which rings in at a jaw-dropping $3,500.[/quote<] "But this is aych DEE tee vee. It has better resolution than real life."

    • ish718
    • 8 years ago

    Damn, with that price you can build an solid gaming pc and get a decent IPS monitor.

    • Star Brood
    • 8 years ago

    It’s a good start. I remember when LCD TV’s first came into popularity you had to pay $5000 for a half decent one. Now you could get the same stuff with modern “improvements” for $500.

    Give it 5 years and they might start selling. Give it 10 years and it’ll be affordable.

    That said, unlike LCD TV, these are not worth waiting 10 years for. New technologies are on the horizon and these 4K overpriced luxuries will not get their chance.

      • JustAnEngineer
      • 8 years ago

      Affordable Chinese IGZO LCD monitors are coming in 2015:
      [url<]https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=88225&p=1169624&hilit=#p1169624[/url<]

    • Dysthymia
    • 8 years ago

    Is an 8 millisecond gray to gray response time fast enough to prevent ghosting in fast motion?

      • chuckula
      • 8 years ago

      Tell ya what. Go buy one and let us know. If there is some ghosting, I’ll be happy to take it off your hands!

      • Rectal Prolapse
      • 8 years ago

      [url<]http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/60vs120vslb/[/url<] Short answer: No, if you are used to CRT phosphor decay times (3 ms or less).

        • Airmantharp
        • 8 years ago

        If you could readily see phosphor decay times. I could, back when I was young and CRTs came in boxes. CRTs ghosted too, but they at least could get just about everything right except for the geometry.

    • internetsandman
    • 8 years ago

    Oh dear god….now I’m severely wishing I hadn’t bought a new portable music setup, this would be amazing to have *drools*

    • chuckula
    • 8 years ago

    Sweet! They’ve already cut the price by about 10%! Just cut it another 60% or so and we are in business!

    • yogibbear
    • 8 years ago

    YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The time is soooooon my precious!!! I will gladly sit waiting patiently for you to arrive in my bedside in matching PJs.

    But 42 cents per 1000 pixels. Damn you think you’re hot stuff girl! I’m only going to try some of your hot stuff once you get down to 20 cents per 1000 pixels territory. You feeling me beau?

      • 5150
      • 8 years ago

      Yawn, wake me when it’s 10ยข/1000 pixels.

        • sschaem
        • 8 years ago

        Set your alarm for aug 5th.

          • 5150
          • 8 years ago

          Aside from that being my birthday, what’s the significance?

            • Farting Bob
            • 8 years ago

            It’s unrelated, he just doesnt want you to miss out on birthday celebrations.

            • sschaem
            • 8 years ago

            38.5″ 3840×2160 panels will make their debut in products in the retail channel in the US for under $700 . So about 8 cents for 1000 pixels…

            • cynan
            • 8 years ago

            Unless they come with Display Port 1.2 (and an run 4k@60Hz) they’ll be about as useless as the current crop of 4k displays.

    • dpaus
    • 8 years ago

    [quote<]a jaw-dropping $3,500[/quote<] Puh-leeese; I remember buying one of the first 20" 1024x768 CRTs for $5,000.

      • chuckula
      • 8 years ago

      Unrelated to purchase price, but I had an internship in ’99 where I had to deploy some 21″ 1600×1200 Trinitrons* for our developers who swore by those things. Each one was about 2.5 feet deep and weighed close to a hundred pounds. Oh, and no convenient handholds on them either, so moving them around after they were out of the box took some wrestling skills that I really don’t have.

      Some of the developers liked having two of those things in a cubicle. In addition to the structural load on the desk, I think the heat output of these bad boys was enough to offset any need for a furnace in the building.

      * The real-deal Trinitrons that had the faint horizontal lines at just the right locations on the screen if you looked hard enough.

        • thesmileman
        • 8 years ago

        Those *@** Horizontal lines drove me NUTS. The monitors was the best by leaps and bounds but those freaking lines drove me crazy.

          • Ethyriel
          • 8 years ago

          I don’t know, I was pretty happy with my Cornerstone P1600. A well done shadowmask was every bit as good as aperture grille in image reproduction, they just weren’t flat. I actually felt the AG was unrealistically vibrant.

        • derFunkenstein
        • 8 years ago

        I had one of those real-deal Trinitrons in a Dell-branded 21″ monitor. That thing weighed, I dunno, about a gazillion pounds but man they were awesome. It eventually croaked and I got my first LCD, which at 1280×1024 was a decided step down in resolution, but because of the clarity I didn’t have to bump up font sizes. It worked out.

        • Airmantharp
        • 8 years ago

        I had several of these- Trinitrons (and the Diamondtron copies from Mitsubishi) were sold in everything. Viewsonic was pretty big into them, along with Dell.

        On a side note, being reasonably built and spending some time in a UPS sorting facility sure helped when LAN party time came around. Watching some of the guys trying to carry those things was a spectator sport in itself, when I (and my friend, also an UnderPaid Slave) could shot-put the things. Granted, we thought 70lbs was ‘light’ :).

        • Bauxite
        • 8 years ago

        I actually took my Sony FW900 to a few lans, I don’t think there is a heavier CRT that wasn’t sold as a TV.

      • GeneS
      • 8 years ago

      That’s the most subtle frist post I’ve seen on here in a loooooong time. SSK would kiss you. On the lips. With tongue.

        • lilbuddhaman
        • 8 years ago

        and with no edits! Bravo

      • ClickClick5
      • 8 years ago

      See, I bought a 2013 Polaris Sportsman 500 HO friday. My bank account says no no to this screen. ๐Ÿ™

        • Farting Bob
        • 8 years ago

        Stop buying Ho’s you can’t afford then.

      • PenGun
      • 8 years ago

      I once paid $1500 for 32 Mb of RAM. The price dropped in half the next week.

      I’m watching Planet Earth Caves on my big ol Sony 34″ XS955 Super Fine Pitch HD CRT beastie. It really can’t be beat for HD movies. I play games on it too but deathmatch it’s not suited for. ๐Ÿ˜‰ A really sweet TV.

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