High-end GeForce GTX 780 Ti coming in mid-November

Nvidia announced a number of things at its event in Montreal today, and Scott live blogged them all. One of the big reveals was that of the GeForce GTX 780 Ti, a “new high-end enthusiast GPU” scheduled for a mid-November retail release.

Few specifics were discussed during the keynote, but Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang described the card using a panoply of adjectives. The GTX 780 Ti delivers “outstanding” performance and “low” power, he said. It’s “cool, quiet, and fast.” And, according to Huang, it’s the “best GPU that’s ever been built.”

That last part suggests the GTX 780 Ti will be faster than the GeForce GTX Titan, the current flagship of Nvidia’s desktop armada. One can imagine how that would be the case.

If you’ll recall, the GTX Titan features a version of Nvidia’s GK110 graphics processor with one of its 15 SMX units disabled. That means it has 2688 shader ALUs out of a possible 2880, and it filters 224 texels per clock out of a possible 240. All Nvidia has to do to make a faster product is to enable that last SMX. The company could conceivably raise clock speeds, as well, but it could forgo that step and still have a new, faster-than-ever top of the line.

Nvidia said reviewers will receive GTX 780 Ti samples “soon.” So, when the time comes, you can probably look forward to a TR review full of graphs, scatter plots, and snarky prose. Unless Scott has a nervous breakdown from all these recent launches.

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    • JohnC
    • 7 years ago

    Hopefully resellers like Gigabyte or EVGA will be able to use their own multi-fan coolers with less restrictive airflow… That piece of shit “stock” blower on cards like my Titan is barely adequate due to multiple ports (DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort) filling up the surface of its bracket and even using optional “high flow bracket” does not make a significant difference. I am surprised that Nvidia still uses this inefficient design on most powerful cards…

    • yammerpickle2
    • 7 years ago

    Meh. A slight tweak to get the crown back from AMD. I’d be impressed if they revealed a Titan 2 based the Maxwell chip with unified memory. This feature is going to be on the next gen consoles coming out very soon, and the PC needs to have similar features.

    • alienstorexxx
    • 7 years ago

    “best GPU that’s ever been built”
    i’m getting sick reading this every new gpu is released by nvidia.

      • Cota
      • 7 years ago

      Best GPU ever built… so far šŸ™‚

      • NeelyCam
      • 7 years ago

      But what if it’s true?

    • yammerpickle2
    • 7 years ago

    AMD shows up at an NVidia event, and NVidia responds by announcing the 780 Ti version, but no real specs or pricing. Sounds like they had not really planed on announcing it, but AMD forced their hand. Competition is good. Iā€™m currently running NVidia, but am always glad to see AMD step up and take the fight to NVidia.

      • Klimax
      • 7 years ago

      Not really. there are several boundaries to narrow scope quite a lot. (Also they might not burry some other things under it)

    • Krogoth
    • 7 years ago

    I have a feeling that 780Ti is going to be a more aggressively clocked 780. It will still be crippled in its DP capabilities. It is clearly a response to incoming R9 290x.

      • HisDivineOrder
      • 7 years ago

      I have a feeling that it’s going to be a Titan with crippled DP. I think that’s clear from Jen saying the card will be ideal for running 4K monitors.

      nVidia’s line of thought is 6 > 4.

      They may overclock the memory closer to the levels used by a 770.

        • Krogoth
        • 7 years ago

        4k gaming is pointless at this time. None of the GPUs have the shading power and texture fill-rate to handle 4K gaming at a smooth framerate under modern titles. Not even the Titan, 780Ti and R9 290X. SLI and CF versions might be able to obtain it, but you are at the mercy of problems associated with multi-GPU solutions.

        It isn’t worth the time or trouble. Give it another GPU generation or two before 4K gaming starts to make sense. At this time, 4K stuff is only good for professional related tasks (medical/scientific imaging, monitoring utilities, security systems etc.)

    • Stickmansam
    • 7 years ago

    I call it being same specs as Titan but with no compute abilites. Prob price at $650-700 with titan cooler and bit higher clocks. Disabling compute would allow for cooler running

    • NeelyCam
    • 7 years ago

    And NVidia wins again.

    True innovators always win.

      • auxy
      • 7 years ago

      C’mon, c’mon. I’m an Nvidia fangirl, but this is just silly. (‘āˆ€`)

        • chuckula
        • 7 years ago

        Good to see you around auxy!

    • Phishy714
    • 7 years ago

    I honestly can’t see Nvidia selling a TESLA K40 GK180 (with everything enabled) for around $1,000 when their enterprise customers are more than happy to pay upwards for $5,000 for them. The K4 isn’t even out yet, which means its been pretty difficult to manufacture – so there is absolutely no reason to make the 780ti a full chip.

    What I CAN see them doing, however, is lowering the 780ti to 3gb, disabling the compute aspects of the chip (kinda like what they did with the 680) and giving it a higher stock clock to out perform the TITAN – not unlike what AMD did with their 7970/7970Ghz cards.

      • HisDivineOrder
      • 7 years ago

      I think they’ll just take the existing Titan, drop DP, keep the 6 GB of memory, and potentially overclock the GPU and/or memory.

      780 Ti. “Limited quantities. Get one while the getting is good.”

      They don’t have to make many to have some out there, pissin’ all over AMD’s hushpuppies. nVidia wants to keep the high end even if the high end is somewhat constrained in supply.

      It’s really all about making AMD constantly play defense. They’re just biding their time till Maxwell at this point in high end parts and I have to wonder if you haven’t bought into a $650+ GPU yet, is there a good reason to now?

      • Cota
      • 7 years ago

      GK104 doesn’t have compute parts disabled, it has physically much less FP64 cores than Titan. 1/24 vs 1/3 or 64 vs 896. The 780 does have the same FP64 cores as Titan but only 96 (1/24) are enabled.

      Nvidia could do a new GPU with all SMX enabled for 2880 cores and say 120 FP64 physical cores (keeping the 1/24 ratio). This could make the chip smaller and potentially run cooler.

    • internetsandman
    • 7 years ago

    So wait

    780 < Titan < 780 Ti

    I’m glad that’s straightforward

      • SCR250
      • 7 years ago

      Titan has FULL DP rate enabled the 780 and 780 Ti don’t.

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      You can buy Tesla/ Quadro based on the exact same silicon and pay 4x more then a GTX for LESS gaming performance.

      Titan is not a pure gaming card but its also not a full Quadro/Tesla type model.

      It sit in the middle. I think it would have been more confusing of they used a GTX name.

        • curtisb
        • 7 years ago

        If you’re buying a Tesla or Quadro for gaming, You’re Doing It Wrong (TM).

        The Tesla and Quadro drivers aren’t tuned for gaming. There are multiple drivers available for Quadro cards tuned for specific workloads (i.e. AutoCAD, 3dsmax, etc.). There are over 90 partners, with multiple applications from most partners, with certified drivers for each application on each GPU type. You are paying for all of the research and time it takes to guarantee compatibility, stability, and performance with each GPU model on each application. It’s the same as the FirePro line from AMD.

          • Liron
          • 7 years ago

          Un-tuned Tesla drivers are the least of your worries. Teslas don’t have monitor outputs!
          That’s the big difference between Titan and Tesla.

          But you’re forgetting that a lot of people who like to dabble in Maya as a hobby also like to play games and, after spending on a quadro, you’re not going to be able to convince the wife to approve the funds for another video card just for gaming-tuned drivers.

            • curtisb
            • 7 years ago

            No, I’m not forgetting that. As I said, if you’re buying a Quadro card for gaming, you’re doing it wrong. Dabbling in Maya is one thing, doing it for a living is quite another. Maya will run acceptably well on a GeForce (or Radeon) class card for those who dabble…and your wife will be happier when you save the money for a Quadro. For that matter, you could buy a Titan and she’d still be happy compared to a high-end Quadro.

      • tipoo
      • 7 years ago

      I’m going to wager a guess that the 780TI is fairly equivalent to the Titan in gaming performance, just with all the compute cruft cut out.

      • HisDivineOrder
      • 7 years ago

      Titan is a card made for professionals. 780’s are gamer’s cards. DP is a feature you pay for with nVidia.

        • Krogoth
        • 7 years ago

        Titan isn’t professional grade. That’s K20 Tesla/Quadro.

        Titans are just K20s that failed to make the QA cut for professional market (TDP is too high, too inaccurate at rate clock speeds). Nvidia recycled these chips as ultra high-end GPUs for gamers who want the best performance no matter the cost. Intel does the same thing for their top of the line Socket 2011 stuff.

          • vargis14
          • 7 years ago

          GMC is professional grade…..even though a chevy is built the same exact way with the same parts, just different badges.

          It is kinda funny consumers think they are getting something different….I am sure the salesman do not disclose that information. But if the consumers would just use the internet they could see for themselves.

          At least GMotors/us government now have the most fuel efficient v8 beating the ford ECO boost V-6.

          I have been fixing cars and trucks for a long long time and i will take a naturally aspirated engine over a turbo/supercharged engine any day.

          Until Race Day…Ill take a supercharger…no turbo lag.

            • Great_Big_Abyss
            • 7 years ago

            This is so off-topic my mind is blown. When and how did we turn this into a Ford vs Chevy comparison? I suppose fanbois will always be….

            BTW…Ram Tough!

    • Srsly_Bro
    • 7 years ago

    So is the 780 Ti faster than the vanilla 780? I gave up on Nvidia’s naming scheme.

      • danny e.
      • 7 years ago

      Ti models have always been faster than the vanilla models of the same name. That hasn’t changed.

        • derFunkenstein
        • 7 years ago

        Yeah it’s just the MX that’s been confusing. In the GeForce 2/GeForce 4MX days, it was slower than the original. But in the mobile space recently there was a GeForce 670MX that was faster than the plain GeForce 670.

          • auxy
          • 7 years ago

          680MX too. They’re borrowing from Intel’s playbook and using X for “Xtreme”.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 7 years ago

            Right, there’s a whole family of mobile Kepler MX, I was just using the 670 as an example.

            • Laykun
            • 7 years ago

            I believe that was from ATi’s playbook. Radeon X1900 XTX anyone?

            • slowriot
            • 7 years ago

            I consider the Radeon X1000 series the high mark in graphics card naming confusion. There were an unbelievable number of “XT, “XTX”, “GT”, “Pro”, “XL” and more models… and that’s just the X1900 cards. They had the X1600, and X1300 models with just as many suffix options. Plus they did an X1*50 refresh! The X1950 Pro I had at the time was a great card, but the product naming was ridiculous.

        • w00tstock
        • 7 years ago

        Except for the Geforce 3 ti 200

      • HisDivineOrder
      • 7 years ago

      Think of it like this:

      AMD has R9 290 and 290X. The X makes one faster.

      nVidia has a 780 and a 780 Ti. The Ti makes it faster.

    • chuckula
    • 7 years ago

    This + price cuts (or price-cut via rebadge) to Titan are sort of expected given that the 290X is very competitive and in a lower price range. The real trick will be if they just slot the 780 Ti in at $1000 or if they are more aggressive and drop it to.. $700 or $800. I’m expecting it to be above the 290X in price, but the issue then becomes is the price premium sane or insane given the performance.

      • sschaem
      • 7 years ago

      The 780gtx is <$650
      The 780GTX TI will most likely replace it in the price bracket.

      If the 780 Ti is 10% faster is will beat/match the r9-290x (from the limited official benchmark at Anandtech) And it will be in the same price range…

      Perfect equalization of price performance at the single GPU high end.

      nvidia Titan still got a reason to live at $950+.. its a ‘cheap’ Tesla/Quadro alternative. minus the ECC memory. And nvidia might push the titan at $850 and release an updated model.

        • chuckula
        • 7 years ago

        Ah so, the 780 TI is going for Titan (or Titan+) level game performance while Nvidia fuses off the double precision units in the same manner as the 780? That would make sense in the gaming market, but as alway the price needs to be right.

    • superjawes
    • 7 years ago

    So where’s the coffee donation widget to supply Damage Labs with enough caffeine to do all these reviews?

      • Chrispy_
      • 7 years ago

      +1

      I assume the reviews are almost done (ie, they were ready for the R9 290x on the 15th) but AMD lengthened the NDA.

        • sschaem
        • 7 years ago

        Do we know why ? any type of delays are never good…
        But then its AMD, did they ever release anything on time ?

        Marketing should just take whatever date they get and just add 30 days.

          • Deanjo
          • 7 years ago

          [quote<]Do we know why ?[/quote<] Probably to try to get a few more driver tweaks in to hopefully look more appealing.

            • Chrispy_
            • 7 years ago

            I read somewhere (might have been Charlie, so take with a HUGE HANDFUL of salt) that AMD were trying to delay until the Mantle-powered BF4 was released for total benchmark dominance.

            Let’s face it, the 290x is a halo product so they want the halo to be as shiny as possible. Actual sales revenue from 290X cards is going to be fairly insignificant, methinks.

            • Deanjo
            • 7 years ago

            [quote<]Actual sales revenue from 290X cards is going to be fairly insignificant, methinks.[/quote<] I wouldn't say that. Titan is a halo product as well and still sells extremely well.

        • vargis14
        • 7 years ago

        They will probably have to do the 290 over if AMD throws a updated driver at them.

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