Google’s Nexus 5 smartphone arrives with Android 4.4 KitKat

Google has officially unveiled its latest Nexus handset. The Nexus 5 combines updated hardware with a new version of Android, and it’s already available on the Google Play store. The 16GB version is priced at $349, while the 32GB model rings in at $399. Those are off-contract prices, by the way. For reference, the iPhone 5C 16GB is priced at $599 without a contract, and the 5S rings in at a whopping $720.

Despite its affordable price tag, the Nexus 5 looks very well equipped. As expected, it features a 5" screen—4.95" to be exact. The display resolution is 1920×1080, which works out to a sharp 445 PPI. IPS panel technology should ensure rich colors and wide viewing angles. Google says the screen has less glare, too.

Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 800 SoC provides the horsepower. This quad-core chip has a peak frequency of 2.3GHz, and it includes Adreno 330 integrated graphics clocked at 450MHz. We don’t have the chip’s exact model number, but according to Wikipedia, similar silicon can be found in the Kindle Fire HDX and the LTE version of the Galaxy Note 3.

Speaking of LTE, the Nexus 5 supports 4G connectivity. It’s also equipped with 802.11ac Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0, and NFC. The eight-megapixel rear camera has been upgraded with optical image stabilization and a new lens with better low-light performance. HDR mode? Check. There’s a front-facing shooter, too, plus an accelerometer, gyroscope, and all the other little sensors one might expect in a modern handset.

Unlike most smartphones, the Nexus 5 has wireless charging built right in. The 2300-mAh battery is rated for 17 hours of talk time and seven hours of LTE web browsing. There’s a standard Micro USB port for wired charging, of course. Sadly, though, a microSD slot is nowhere to be found. That’s par for the course for Nexus devices, but it’s a disappointing omission nonetheless.

Google squeezes everything into a slim plastic body that’s only a millimeter thicker than the iPhone 5S. At 130 grams, the Nexus 5 is marginally heavier than the 5S but slightly lighter than the 5C.

On the OS front, the Nexus 5 is loaded with Android 4.4, otherwise known as KitKat. Despite the handset’s beefier hardware, KitKat is optimized for older devices. Google has trimmed Android’s memory footprint by "removing unnecessary background services and reducing the memory consumption of features that you use all the time." Those optimization efforts have extended "across Google services like Chrome and YouTube," too. As a result, Android 4.4 apparently runs well on devices with as little as 512MB of RAM.

The leaner, meaner KitKat build brings updates to Android’s phone app, which has expanded search functionality, and its Hangouts app, which now handles SMS messaging. There’s a new "immersive mode" that appears to block out non-essential notifications and UI elements. It sounds like Google Now is more deeply integrated into the OS, too.

Android 4.4 will be released for the Nexus 4, 7, and 10 "in the coming weeks." The OS update is also coming to Google Play editions of the Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One. However, it’s unclear how long it will take KitKat to trickle down to older Nexus devices. My Galaxy Nexus awaits, and I’m curious to see if it feels any faster with KitKat onboard.

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    • Darkmage
    • 9 years ago

    My quick list of useful Android apps:

    Amazon – worth it alone for the barcode scanning & look up of reviews.
    Feedly – RSS reader
    BeyondPod – Podcast management
    TipMe – Easily figure out the proper tip in a restaurant, including splitting the check & rounding tip/total
    OpenTable – Restaurant reservations & reviews
    WaPedia – Easy interface into Wikipedia and other Wikis
    Google Goggles – Take a picture and identify most anything (business cards to your contacts, identify landmarks, painting, etc.)
    IMDB Movies – Checks local movie listings, but more importantly allows you to look up movies & answer annoying questions of “Who was that guy with that chick in that one movie that came out last year?”
    SoundHound – Lets your phone listen & identify songs. (Just-as-good-alternate: Shazam)
    TapaTalk – Mobile interface for comment fora.
    Weatherbug – Better weather alerts/information than the stock weather widget.

    Another suggestion: Sign up for Google+, even if you don’t use it much. You can set your phone to automatically upload any picture you take with it, which is an easy way to make it available with having to plug & copy. Also, I set up a folder in Google+ specifically for wine labels of wines I like in restaurants so I can find them later.

    • WhatMeWorry
    • 9 years ago

    The phone or the candy bar?

    • tipoo
    • 9 years ago

    Personally I dislike physical phone home buttons. It takes something away from the all-digital-ness, somehow. And the iPhone home button in particular, i find it too often smushes two presses together into a long press or vice versa, on a brand new device.
    OLED still isn’t very accurate out of the box. The blacks are nice, it’s all tradeoffs with any screen though.

    • RealPjotr
    • 9 years ago

    I’ve used both Nexus 4 and Galaxy S4 and before I used them I’d prefer a button, but after using them I prefer no buttons at all.

    • BIF
    • 9 years ago

    So the OS is called KitKat. Outstanding! Wish I had one right about now!

    • Captain Ned
    • 9 years ago

    Well, one of these days I’d like to bring a pure Android phone of my own purchase onto my Verizon account. I’d jump to another carrier in an instant if they could provide the breadth of coverage Verizon gives me in the hills & valleys of Vermont. Alas, no one else has yet made the infrastructure investment so I’m stuck with VZW given my travel patterns and my need to be accessible to mgmt.

    I don’t lke ’em, but for now they’re my only game in town.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 9 years ago

    I have an All Access subscription, amazingly enough considering how much I dislike subscriptions. When I saw the ‘promotion offer’ for $8 when it came out I thought about it for about a day before signing up, fortunately it came out after I got my Nexus 4 and had gone all-in with Google (converted to GMail, got a Google Voice number, started using Calendar, etc) It’s too bad that it’s music-only for now but I expect in the future they will have something for TV and movies because I can’t see Google letting Netflix and Amazon continue to get customers who want video as well. I like it a *lot* for exploring new music and new releases, although you can’t find everything on there, and it’s good enough quality for semi-casual listening. But I don’t use it on mobile data.

    I wouldn’t have gotten it if I’d already had Amazon Prime, which I still don’t have because Amazon’s free shipping is fine imo (although now that they increased it to $35 per order I am a bit less pleased, and also it seems like they have gotten worse about intentionally slowing orders to be toward the end of the ‘estimated delivery’…I ordered something on Sunday night, and it only just shipped today :/) and I prefer music so never subscribed to Netflix.

    • glynor
    • 9 years ago

    I don’t know if your comment is accurate or not (though I suspect yes), but… This is what drives me crazy about Android. Supposedly the Nexus-line is the “right ones” to buy if you want updates, but here we have it again (and they dropped support for the Nexus S really early too).

    iPhone 4: Released June 24, 2010, got iOS 7 on the same day as all other devices.

    Galaxy Nexus: Released November 17, 2011, gets Kit Kat… Never? Probably, or certainly not same day anyway and you probably have to wait for some guy on the Internet to hack it (which will probably break some stuff).

    Sigh. Get your act together, Google.

    • glynor
    • 9 years ago

    Microsoft didn’t buy Nokia’s mapping companies, they got a four-year non-exclusive license:

    [url<]http://readwrite.com/2013/09/03/what-microsoft-did-and-didnt-buy-with-its-nokia-acquisition[/url<]

    • UberGerbil
    • 9 years ago

    You’d actually hope it would go the other way, and the Nokia properties would improve Bing, but this being Microsoft I wouldn’t count on it.

    • Cranx
    • 9 years ago

    Geoff,
    You’re galaxy nexus will not be getting 4.4. Google is said to be dropping support for the Galaxy Nexus.

    • moog
    • 9 years ago

    Did they release an HTML5 version of the youtube app yet?

    • derFunkenstein
    • 9 years ago

    In high contrast scenes on my SGS4 I can see aliasing. I have difficulty focusing in on it, but it’ll catch my eye. The most extreme case is in 3D Mark mobile where it’s a white ice world and dark black/red vehicles.

    So I don’t think we’re at the “overkill” stage quite yet. Regardless of what Apple tells you.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 9 years ago

    The N4’s camera was supposed to be much better than the GNexus, which itself was a bit of an improvement on the Nexus S. I think flip-mode will be pleased. OIS is huge, though. Wowza.

    • nafhan
    • 9 years ago

    Is anything over 300PPI even noticeable? Yes, but it’s going to depend on how good your vision is, and how close you typically hold your phone.

    The point of high “boost” clock speeds is to get work done quickly and go back to low power mode. Not to run flat out all time. This can actually improve battery life for typical workloads.

    Battery life is a spec in most reviews I’ve seen. It sounds like it’ll probably have better battery life than the N4. So, good, but not great.

    • nafhan
    • 9 years ago

    The optical image stabilization is a good indicator that they’ve put some work into the camera this time around. We’ll see once reviews come out.

    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 9 years ago

    Hmm, status just changed from some kind of empty inventory status to “Leaves warehouse in 3-4 weeks”

    I wonder if it will actually take that long?

    • superjawes
    • 9 years ago

    Sounds like it. US here and it appears completely available to me.

    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 9 years ago

    Does me being in Canada have anything to do with this?

    • flip-mode
    • 9 years ago

    Huh. I’ve visited the page several times and the 32gb models were never unavailable.

    • dashbarron
    • 9 years ago

    Not that it wouldn’t be like Microsoft, but I would hope they would take great use of Nokia’s collection of mapping companies and their improvements.

    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 9 years ago

    Been F5’ing the Play Store all day hoping to get a 32gb model, no luck thus far.

    • dmjifn
    • 9 years ago

    Honestly, you’ll get pretty far just by:
    * Hitting the play store and looking at what’s popular
    * Googling “Best <whatever> app for android” and reading the various top-10 articles you’ll find

    Instead of specific apps, I will mention some functions I use my phone for that didn’t occur to me at first:
    * Check deposit. Endorse, take a picture, confirm the amount, enter my password, press “Done”
    * Mobile VOIP. But only in a pinch because it’s quite less than 100% there
    * Amazon price checking by scanning the barcode while in the store
    * Completely replaces some of my other dedicated devices. Obvious ones: MP3 player, camera (which sadly sucks on the N4). Less obvious: Night stand alarm clock, desktop digital picture frame, TV remote (which we needed after the dog ate ours)
    * Remote desktop terminal. We have 3 Windows 7/8 Pro machines at home and I can remote desktop to any of them from the couch with the phone.
    * Notes and quick & dirty e-doc generation. Unless it’s an important document, I just snap a photo with evernote or Google Keep and toss the original, often right there. Receipts, purchases, hand-written notes, business cards, screen shots I need back at my desk, ads w/ web links I want to follow up on later, etc… basically my cyber memory.

    Incidentally that last one is why I take Google’s push to own my data and their security problems very seriously.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 9 years ago

    Exactly. It’s not a question of the services, it’ a matter of data use…until there’s real unlimited for a decent price the cloud for streaming won’t work for me and many others (see ‘no SD card’ complaints.)

    • Voldenuit
    • 9 years ago

    [quote<]The WP has Nokia drive which is arguably the best mapping and GPS app out there. It's far superior to Google Maps as they've been at it for much longer. [/quote<] Seconded, especially if you ever venture out of Murrica. With microsoft's acquisition of nokia's phone business and their failure to buy the Navteq group, I would not be surprised if we see future windows phones hobbled with Bing Maps (shudder) though.

    • Beelzebubba9
    • 9 years ago

    [quote=”HallsMint”<]I purchased one 6 minutes after it became available. Needless to say, I was waiting for this phone to come out, haha.[/quote<] Me too! I've been fond of my Nexus 4, but the battery life isn't very good and lack of LTE is bothersome. I know this will address at least one of those issues and that seems worth $399 for me.

    • DancinJack
    • 9 years ago

    No worries.

    • derFunkenstein
    • 9 years ago

    Seems to stream at around 80MB/hr in my experience, so more like 6 hours, but still that sucks. Even so, it’s still available over wifi.

    • BoilerGamer
    • 9 years ago

    Thanks for pointing that out, I got a bit confused reading.

    • dashbarron
    • 9 years ago

    Why JohnC? You’ve mentioned things before (battery bug) but I don’t see any serious defects beside the lack of apps and games. And truth be told, there are enough games to enjoy yourself unless you are looking for AAA phone games which I wonder how many people are alone with their phone and have no other forms of entertainment to play for hours on end. Apps? There are more than enough apps to cover every situation one requires.

    Your chief complaint, a more restrictive OS then iOS, is laughable. iOS, seriously? WP8 lets you do a lot more tweaks and has a larger range of customization and freedom. This is simply not true.

    • kamikaziechameleon
    • 9 years ago

    The thing is that if you travel you won’t always have access to internet. Meaning that you might want to store local content. The memory size and lack of SD expansion seems to really limit the uses of this otherwise AMAZING device.

    • Peldor
    • 9 years ago

    It looks like neither of our Motorola phones are going to get an official Kit Kat release, unsurprisingly, but I do hope that Google takes some of the bloat out of the Android version of Chrome in general. It’s gotten almost unbearably slow if there are more than 2 tabs open.

    • dashbarron
    • 9 years ago

    I’ll bite.

    The WP has Nokia drive which is arguably the best mapping and GPS app out there. It’s far superior to Google Maps as they’ve been at it for much longer.

    As much as I don’t like I.E. on the desktop, I’ve had 0 problems with it on the WP8.

    Wireless charging, NFC, huge battery and run time, superior camera. The only huge deficit is the less-than-top GPU and games, if that’s what you are looking for.

    • gmskking
    • 9 years ago

    Soft buttons suck. Not really a 4.95 inch screen with soft buttons.

    • Kurotetsu
    • 9 years ago

    Kind of agree. I really like how Motorola has taken advantage of AMOLED’s capabilities to implement useful features like Active Notifications. Samsung….not so much.

    • Kurotetsu
    • 9 years ago

    Nexus devices have never had expandable storage. So they’ve been shortsighted and still popular for just over 3 years and running now.

    • steelcity_ballin
    • 9 years ago

    The Nexus5 or the LG G2 are my most likely purchases when I leave Verizon in 20 days and counting 🙂

    • ermo
    • 9 years ago

    Being a happy owner of an S2, I sure hope it will be supported by KitKat, including a newer kernel.

    I’m on a custom 4.2.x ROM right now (Slim Bean) and the phone is already pretty responsive. To think that KitKat might improve on that? Yes please.

    • flip-mode
    • 9 years ago

    My N-S is locked. I tried unlocking it once but was unsuccessful. I even called Cincinnati Bell and ask them if they could give me the unlock code and they said no they could not.

    • bhtooefr
    • 9 years ago

    Actually, why would you need to replace the phone?

    The unlocked one is GSM. You could bring the Nexus S to AT&T or T-Mobile, and put their SIM in. (Unless Cincinnati Bell sold a locked Nexus S? But you could probably unlock it.)

    Still, the Nexus 5 looks like quite beastly hardware, for a hell of a good price for an unlocked device.

    • kc77
    • 9 years ago

    You’re responding as though what I’m saying is debatable. If having that Micro SD slot was so important as others claim then some of the best selling phones would have them. They don’t. In addition the lack of one would hurt sales (if it is truly as important as people claim). It doesn’t.

    • Namarrgon
    • 9 years ago

    I’m also an All Access fan – but it’s a lot less useful away from home when you have to pay expensive cellular data rates.

    E.g. in AU, 500MB/month caps are common, and All Access can burn through that in an hour or two.

    • Haserath
    • 9 years ago

    A few things.

    Is anything over 300PPI even noticeable?

    Does that SoC ever actually hit 2.3Ghz for longer than it takes a kid to eat a KitKat?

    Choosing specs over battery life… :/

    • Namarrgon
    • 9 years ago

    Yeah, real shame that, and particularly ironic given the focus on getting KitKat to run on 512MB (half the GNex’s RAM).

    For a moment there I was hoping that Google was going to announce 4.4 for the GNex *and* the 3yo Nexus S (heck, even the Nexus One could theoretically run it), just to prove the doubters wrong – but no, the doubters stayed right.

    • Namarrgon
    • 9 years ago

    If that turns out to be the case, then it’ll be a shame (CM was much loved), but it ain’t gonna extinguish anything. CM’s codebase is also open, and has already been forked numerous times.

    There are many other AOSP-based ROMs around, like AOKP and ParanoidAndroid – none with quite the same device spread that CM boasted, but more than a few, and well-liked by their users. Add to that the countless smaller ports of CM to less-common devices; they won’t be going anywhere.

    If CM disappears, we’ll sadly bid them adieu, but the vacuum will very quickly be filled.

    • DancinJack
    • 9 years ago

    Sorry, but that’s incorrect. Both phones use the vanilla version.

    [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/5[/url<]

    • Forge
    • 9 years ago

    Cyanogenmod might be axing lots of devices soon. They’ve switched from the One True Source, AOSP, aka Google Android, to CAF, Samsung’s in-house version. That’ll complicate support of non-Samsung devices in the future.

    I wonder if that was the point of having Samsung hire Steve Kondik. Now that he left, he seems to be a real cheerleader for the Samsung Way. First Cyanogenmod switches from AOSP to CAF, next he starts dropping non-Samsung devices, then Samsung “buys” Cyanogenmod and folds it into CAF?

    Could be a very elaborate and well-planned MS-style Embrace Extend Extinguish move.

    • Forge
    • 9 years ago

    I know you said “almost”, but I’d like to point out that from iPad 1 release to iOS6 was right around two years, and iPad got dropped from iOS6.

    Google’s got other reasons for dropping the original GNex as well, and the main reason is TI. They stopped supporting the GNex chipset and Google is left over a bit of a barrel because of it. I certainly hope the original GNex support ending the way it did got Google to make support a bit more of a priority for later chipsets, maybe some sort of NDA-covered documentation deal, so that Google can continue supporting Nexus devices even if the hardware OEM doesn’t want to.

    That and Apple’s new releases make the older devices slower, in some cases unusably so, while Google is much better about that. My Galaxy S2 has gone from Gingerbread to Jelly Bean, and it’s still quite usable, and I expect Kit Kat to be just as fast, maybe even more so. iOS5.1.1 on my iPad1 is sluggish as hell, and judging from what iOS7 did to my wife’s iPhone, I guess I should be glad. If only so many apps didn’t refuse to update or reinstall due to “incompatibility” with older iOS versions….

    • Forge
    • 9 years ago

    Google All Access. Same price as Netflix (8$/month), and it’s a great service. Gets everything, unlike Netflix, and you get the warm fuzzy of being legit. You can listen from damned near anything with internet access, as well.

    I was using it all the way out to TR BBQ and back. I think it’s pretty great.

    • NeelyCam
    • 9 years ago

    I went with relatively heavy (but carefully defined) compression to reduce the size of my music library. The good half of it takes about 32GB now… but it still doesn’t leave much for videos and such

    • internetsandman
    • 9 years ago

    I would rather pay a premium to carry less around, rather than save money and carry more. I’ve been on the hunt for a 64GB phone with good sound quality for a while so that I can ditch the 128GB portable player that I carry with me, and I’ve even considered (if I get an iPhone) getting a case that turns it into a miniature wallet so that I can leave my actual bulky wallet at home for my regular job or quick outings

    Carrying a portable hard drive in my pocket to stream music to my phone would kinda defeat the purpose of the desire to have one device that does everything you want it to

    • albundy
    • 9 years ago

    old people wont know how, lol. I’ve filled up my 32gb microsd with music, movies, and downloads easily. 4 mkv 720p videos run me just over 17gb, so right now i am searching for a good deal on a 64gb micro sd.

    • BoilerGamer
    • 9 years ago

    I will take a brighter(more visible under sunlight) LCD screen with better color accuracy. You can have that SAMOLED display on that Samsung Vampire phone(as Sunlight make the screen unreadable).

    • BoilerGamer
    • 9 years ago

    Not Exactly, G2 uses MSM8974AB, which have 550mhz GPU clock on the Adreno 330. Nexus 5’s MSM8974 vanilla only clocked GPU up to 450mhz. G2’s have higher binned GPU silicon.

    For more details, check out Anandtech [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/7471/google-announces-the-nexus-5[/url<]

    • MadManOriginal
    • 9 years ago

    I must be in the middle of nowhere for 99% of my life then.

    I’m not against WiFi use, it’s great when it’s available, but to rely upon it is inherently limiting.

    • 0g1
    • 9 years ago

    Samsung uses a pentile display == 2/3 the amount of subpixels.

    Looks like the back, home, and settings buttons are on the display now. Probably not a good thing as it uses up too much screen space.

    Samsung charges $100 more?

    • entropy13
    • 9 years ago

    I haven’t done anything you mentioned, but the 16GB of my S3 was still insufficient.

    There are music, but not that many (barely 150 songs). There are many games, but only two of them exceed 800MB. I don’t keep any work-related files in my phone either.

    I have some anime so I could watch when not at home, but they’re only 480p so each episode are no more than 200MB in size (and some of them are 3-5 mins long only, so even at 720p they’re only 80MB at most). Right now I only have 1.52GB internal storage left.

    Good thing I bought a 16GB microSD.

    • rxc6
    • 9 years ago

    So Nokia should get nothing for investing so much on R&D. Sorry, but no. This are not “slide to unlock” patents.

    • kc77
    • 9 years ago

    1. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere McDonalds, Starbucks and even the most popular airports have free wifi.

    2. You would be using cloud services over and above the space on your device. Meaning that’s only after you’ve outstripped 16 GB of content during the day. That’s just not that common nor easy to do. As I said before that’s an awfully large amount of music or movies.

    I think the consternation about additional slots for storage are more about having the storage physically next to you than really needing it within a day.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 9 years ago

    Outside of WiFi range, cloud services cost data use which is not necessarily cheap.

    • JohnC
    • 9 years ago

    Why would it be? Verizon has made it perfectly clear that they don’t want their users to use Google’s own models:
    [url<]http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/17/4741568/verizon-reportedly-wont-activate-nexus-7-on-its-network[/url<]

    • Captain Ned
    • 9 years ago

    Not available for Verizon. Blegh.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 9 years ago

    I understand that having it on-device is preferable, but with the cost savings of a Nexus phone you can buy a 500GB or 1TB portable WiFi hard drive.

    • kc77
    • 9 years ago

    I agree. It still baffles me how technically inclined people still haven’t figured out that the cheapest (by far) and easiest method of carrying music, videos, etc is by utilizing “cloud” services. Most of them are free and they give you usually 10GB and some even more than that. Mind you that even if you needed content on your device even 16GB is a lot. 16GB is more than what a BR movie requires after conversion. Drop the resolution down to 720 and that’s easily 16 movies (enough for any plane trip). Music is the same deal. 16GB of music is about 160 – 10 song albums.

    • JohnC
    • 9 years ago

    I understand the need for offline GPS maps (although I prefer to rely on my dedicated Garmin device which has free lifetime map updates, doesn’t drain phone’s battery and allows me to use any smartphone by any brand), but… Do you honestly listen to all that music every day? Or at least once a month? What about eBooks – do you keep that junk even once you done reading them? I used Kindle Touch for a long time for all my travel needs and I never had the need to use more than its on-board 3GB of user-accessible storage :-/

    • MadManOriginal
    • 9 years ago

    To pique my interest I need to see battery life figures. If it’s substantially longer than the Nexus 4 I would be somewhat tempted, but otherwise the Nexus 4 is fine for me even sans LTE (faster webpage loading would be OK but I don’t browse without WiFi much) and with a ‘mere’ 720p screen which is retina-y enough for me. Now, if there was a 64GB or higher version I would be much more tempted so I could load all my music.

    • JohnC
    • 9 years ago

    Why would you want to use such tiny screen for that and waste the precious battery life on that? :-/ Everyone in our family just use their own iPads for all movie-watching needs, be it either at home, at some hotel or in a car/plane/train. Everything looks better on larger screen (even low-res movies), plus if the iPad’s battery dies – no big deal, everyone can still use their smartphones for talking/texting, especially in case of some emergency and with no nearby charging devices…

    • nico1982
    • 9 years ago

    Is lack of tactile feedback really an issue? I’m bothered more by the screen estate taken up by the status bar on landscape…

    • internetsandman
    • 9 years ago

    I carry around a separate 128GB music player and I listen to at least 75% of the music I have on it routinely. I’d be able to tighten my belt to get down to 64GB and use just one device, but I’d need a good phone to listen to that music on first

    • willmore
    • 9 years ago

    I see what you did there.

    • willmore
    • 9 years ago

    There’s always CyanogenMod. I wonder if someone is going to try to shoehorn it into the DINC.

    • tipoo
    • 9 years ago

    But lets see here, iOS4 made the 3G extremely slow, iOS5 made the iPad 1 extremely slow, iOS6 made the Touch 4G slow, iOS7 is making the iPhone 4 and even A5 based products slower. I’d rather them cut things off before the OS is too heavy for the hardware, frankly.

    • JohnC
    • 9 years ago

    Go for it, man – Windows Phone OS is garbage and will always stay that way. I did a mistake buying Lumia 920 but I won’t be repeating that ever again.
    There is absolutely 0 reasons to stay with it – the OS is more restrictive and deficient than iOS, the number of usable apps is laughable and the only “choice” of devices for it is Nokia because MS just keeps alienating other device manufacturers with shit like this: [url<]http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-wins-patent-battle-against-htc-uk-now-seeking-sales-ban[/url<] Even if you like the look and feel of WP's GUI - there are plenty of ways to make your Android to look and function in similar way.

    • Ethyriel
    • 9 years ago

    I just bought a 16GB, and would have gladly spent $50 less for 8GB. I’m only using 2.34GB on my current One S.

    • Voldenuit
    • 9 years ago

    I hear ya.

    My 3 year old Nokia N8 has 48 GB of storage courtesy of 16 GB internal NAND and a 32 GD microSD.

    I’m close to filling it, too, what with offline GPS maps, music and ebooks.

    32 GB should be the new minimum storage for phones, and 64 GB devices more affordable, IMO. Or maybe I’m just a dinosaur for refusing to rely on cloud services to hold my data hostage for me.

    • eloj
    • 9 years ago

    When you install a new ios version on a three year old device, said device typically become very slow and annoying to use. Which I’m sure is per design #conspiracytheory

    • nico1982
    • 9 years ago

    To be honest, the two biggest features you get with Apple updates on very old devices is the OS version number and programmed obsolescence…

    • cmrcmk
    • 9 years ago

    Either the Nexus 5 or MotoX (after some price cuts) will hopefully get me out of Windows Phone-land once my contract ends in January. I can’t wait to get back to a good mobile OS. At this point, when I need to access a map or browser on a phone, I’ll usually ask my wife or a friend to borrow their phone instead of getting mine out :/ .

    • UberGerbil
    • 9 years ago

    Well, I’m sure in grand Microsoft tradition Google defines “the industry” as “our ecosystem” so….

    • UberGerbil
    • 9 years ago

    I have an old SSD in a USB3/eSATA enclosure for that. But I’m the kind of guy who has a standalone GPS in each of my cars and a separate digital camera and a laptop and a tablet (and I don’t use my phone for anything except for a few texts and a couple of calls a week at most).

    • demani
    • 9 years ago

    And not to be a dick about it, but the only reason its normal is because THEY are the ones dictating. So this translates to “It’s normal because its what we do.”

    Apple has plenty of other faults, but iOS updates almost always go back 3 years (and sometimes more) even if it isn’t every new feature (most of the underlying cores improvements make it through though).

    • DancinJack
    • 9 years ago

    Indeed.

    • nico1982
    • 9 years ago

    [quote<]The 2300-mAh battery is rated for 17 hours of talk time and seven hours of LTE web browsing.[/quote<] Looks like the prediction of the battery life being 0.75 of the G2 (2300 mAh/3000 mAh) was spot on 😛 On top of that the N5 battery is labelled as BL-T9 where the G2's is BL-T7, so chances are the Nexus's is SiO+ too.

    • nico1982
    • 9 years ago

    Same as G2 then.

    • Farting Bob
    • 9 years ago

    Indeed, google says in the FAQ “the nexus is more than 2 years old, and we are only supporting devices up to 18 months old as this is normal in the industry”. It’s a real shame, especially since they bragged about how 4.4 is supposed to run more efficiently on lower end models. Still, all the 3rd party ROMs will support it when they include 4.4 into them.

    • Farting Bob
    • 9 years ago

    The Nexus 4, 7 and 10 all top out at 32GB IIRC. So, as you pointed out, these devices are popular with their limited storage options.

    • DancinJack
    • 9 years ago

    Model number of the SoC is MSM8974.

    • NeelyCam
    • 9 years ago

    Having movies there, or shooting your own movies, quickly fills 32GB. I have 32GB+64GB on my GS3, and I need to manage what movies to have on it.

    • JohnC
    • 9 years ago

    Saturating is easy – just start downloading every large game you can find and put your whole music collection onto it, as well as your work-related presentations/documents/portfolios and just keep it there even if you won’t ever use these or will use these once every few months. Question is, why would anyone want to do that?

    • JohnC
    • 9 years ago

    I disagree with your opinion. Most people I personally know never reach the full built-in storage capacity of their phones. Even the ones who listen to music. Yea, some of them are just lazy and keep junk (including the music) on their phones for ages, even if they don’t use it (or listen to certain albums) for months, but that is an exception, not a normal occurrence. Google also knows it, that is why they decided to sacrifice the expandable storage (or larger built-in storage’s capacity).

    • danny e.
    • 9 years ago

    logical fallacy.

    • Tumbleweed
    • 9 years ago

    I kinda suspect that the L9 is EOLed as far as OS updates go. It’s still on 4.1.2! I’m at the point where the ridiculously-limited storage is preventing me from installing anything large, and even prevents me from updating a lot of apps at once. Crazy. And the lockdown preventing me from moving apps to the microSD card is especially painful on this phone that is oh-so-hard to root.

    I ordered the 32GB Nexus 5 this morning, though, so it’ll be nice to get lots of storage, a big screen, and LTE. My $30/mo T-Mo plans never looked so good…

    • indeego
    • 9 years ago

    ~36G Total on my GIII and I’m using ~60% of it a year into my contract. I definitely need all I can get for random images I sneakernet home/work/SMB clients.

    • chµck
    • 9 years ago

    I would like to know how many people can even saturate their 16GB devices first.

    • HallsMint
    • 9 years ago

    I purchased one 6 minutes after it became available. Needless to say, I was waiting for this phone to come out, haha.
    For all the compromises, it’s still a ton better than my HTC Trophy. That thing was ‘outdated’ when I got it two years ago.

    By the way, this is my first android device. Feel free to suggest some good apps for me to get.

    • Takeshi7
    • 9 years ago

    “My Galaxy Nexus awaits, and I’m curious to see if it feels any faster with KitKat onboard.”

    Galaxy Nexus doesn’t get KitKat. Sorry bud.

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 9 years ago

    [quote<]iPhone 5C 16GB is priced at $599 without a [u<]contact[/u<], and...[/quote<] I know a guy who knows a guy...

    • Star Brood
    • 9 years ago

    I wonder if LG is going to allow the 4.4 OS on my cheapo Optimus L9. The idle RAM usage is pretty extraordinary on 4.1.

    • madgun
    • 9 years ago

    Ordered one for the wife!

    • UberGerbil
    • 9 years ago

    Yeah, I got 32GB on my Nexus 7 and it was way overkill — base system has 27GB available, and a year into using it I still have 24GB free.

    • squeeb
    • 9 years ago

    Not a big deal, it got two years worth of bleeding edge updates. Can’t ask for more these days.

    • internetsandman
    • 9 years ago

    Only 32GB of storage max and no expansion? That seems a little shortsighted in my opinion, given how popular nexus devices can be

    • slowriot
    • 9 years ago

    I’ll be sticking with my Nexus 4. The only improvement here I find especially appealing is the 32GB version, my N4 is the 16GB model. The screen and camera improvements are nice but I honestly don’t care as the screen on the N4 is more than good enough. I carry a real camera with me everywhere too so that doesn’t appeal. LTE… well… the only time I’ve heard people complain about slow network speeds are on forums. 3G+ speeds are plenty fast enough for anything I ever do. Data plan prices are disgusting and I’ll continue to make use of the free WiFi that is available everywhere these days in those extremely rare instances that I’m streaming HD video.

    • solo_clipper
    • 9 years ago

    I hope it feels better than the Nexus 4 did in the hand. I just could not bring myself to buy one, even at $199 if felt like a $99 phone.

    • Forge
    • 9 years ago

    I’m looking forward to replacing my SGS2 with a Nex5 soon, hopefully before the new year. Having a non-Google phone and two Google tablets just highlights the differences.

    • Laykun
    • 9 years ago

    Looks like your out of luck with your galaxy nexus looks like google aren’t updating that handset. I imagine there will be some decent user made builds for it though.

    • Firestarter
    • 9 years ago

    Nexus 4 16gb with Android 4.3 has about 12gb free IIRC

    • flip-mode
    • 9 years ago

    I grabbed one for me and one for the wife. Her phone is junk and she needs a new one, but want to ditch Cincinnati Bell, so we’d need new phones anyway. My Nexus S does what I need it to do, so it is almost a pity to spend $350 to replace a perfectly good phone, but I look forward to having a Nexus 5 anyway. Hopefully the N5’s camera is far better than the NS’s, even if not top of the line.

    • Gnerma
    • 9 years ago

    Ordered one (16gb/black) from Google Play. Says will ship on 11/5. This has been the most whiz bang leak party lead-up to a release that I can recall. Before I got my 2013 Nexus 7 32gb the small internal storage + no microsd would have bugged me. But now I do everything that requires much storage (games & video mostly) on the tablet.

    • chuckula
    • 9 years ago

    [quote<]For reference, the iPhone 5C 16GB is priced at $599 without a contact, and the 5S rings in at a whopping $720.[/quote<] I'll remember that the next time somebody says an Ultrabook (including Macbooks) is overpriced...

    • dmjifn
    • 9 years ago

    You and me both. Which I personally didn’t expect because my reaction to the leak was just cool curiosity. 1080p, a camera that might not suck, and LTE? DO WANT.

    • fent
    • 9 years ago

    Sorry Geoff, doesnt look like the Galaxy Nexus gets Kit Kat officially. [url<]https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085[/url<] But I am looking forward to updating my Nexus 4 🙂

    • derFunkenstein
    • 9 years ago

    The lack of SD isn’t so bad this time because the base model has 16GB (8GB on the Nexus 4) and I’m sure it has WAY more free storage than my SGS4 with less than 10GB available on first power-on.

    • Firestarter
    • 9 years ago

    I have the irresponsible desire to offload my Nexus 4 and buy a Nexus 5 [i<]right now[/i<] I guess this is how it feels to be a fanboy..

    • superjawes
    • 9 years ago

    Give me a break
    Give me a break
    Break me off a piece of that Nexus 5

    But don’t really…it looks like a really nice phone…

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