Report: AMD plans Kaveri refresh for June-July time frame

We already know that AMD's next-gen Carrizo APU isn't coming to the desktop. What we don't know is where that leaves AMD's APU lineup this year.

The guys at SweClockers think they know the answer. They say AMD is prepping a refresh of the Kaveri family for a release in June or July of this year. Code-named Godavari, this refresh will apparently mirror the Richland rollout we saw in 2013. Richland was based on the same silicon as the previous year's Trinity family, but it raised clock speeds—sometimes substantially so.

Sure enough, SweClockers has specs for a Godavari-based A10-8850K processor, which looks like a souped-up A10-7850K. The A10-8850K apparently pushes the peak Turbo speed from 4GHz to 4.1GHz and the base graphics speed from 720MHz to 856MHz, but it's otherwise identical to the A10-7850K, down to the 95W thermal envelope.

Word is that AMD has a dozen Godavari APUs in the pipeline, all of which should work in existing Socket FM2+ motherboards after a firmware update. If SweClockers' info is accurate, I'd expect AMD to play up the straightforward upgrade path and faster integrated graphics. The company may need more than higher clock speeds to compete with Intel's Broadwell CPUs, though.

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    • Ninjitsu
    • 5 years ago

    Sup everyone, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godavari_River<]Godavari[/url<] is another Indian river. I know it's tough to learn non-english words, but hey! Globalisation. And it's pronounced more like "Go-dav(a)-ri", not "God-av-ari" or however you're reading it.

      • flip-mode
      • 5 years ago

      What does the ‘(a)’ sound like? Is that a de-emphasized ‘a’ sound?

      • chuckula
      • 5 years ago

      Interesting. From my incomplete knowledge of geography, does Godavari refer to a river that lies north of the Kaveri (or Cauveri) river in India?

      • NTMBK
      • 5 years ago

      I know what river AMD should name their next APU after

      De Nile

    • Hattig
    • 5 years ago

    “Godavari-based A10-8850K processor, which looks like a souped-up A10-7850K”

    100MHz moar*!!!

    Just call it the A10-7855K instead of giving it a whole generation bump, and release it quietly AMD. Desktop Carrizo would be better, but Q3 2016 is just ludicrous if that rumour is true.

    * under turbo

    • Wirko
    • 5 years ago

    When a God-aware APU meets a He-filled HDD at the other end of the cable, and the cable is not overly SATAnic, we shall expect the unexpected. A [s<]5x[/s<] 5% speed bump. Or something.

    • Mat3
    • 5 years ago

    They need the frame buffer compression they put in Tonga or it’s all for naught.

    • chuckula
    • 5 years ago

    AMD: WE CAN DO EVERYTHING BETTER THAN INTEL!

    You though the launch of desktop Broadwell was going to be a Krogoth-scale unimpressive snoozefest?

    WELL GUESS WHAT SUCKAS!! IF BROADWELL MAKES YOU TAKE A NAP THEN
    [s<]GODZILLA[/s<] [u<]GODAVARI[/u<] WILL PUT YOU IN A COMA! AMD: Anything Intel can do WE can do Moar Coar Bettar!

      • ronch
      • 5 years ago

      [quote<]GODAVARI WILL PUT YOU IN A COMA...[/quote<] ... until 2016, when Zen either wakes you up or finishes you off.

        • maxxcool
        • 5 years ago

        *2017* … fixed that for you..

      • DancinJack
      • 5 years ago

      this was pretty funny. irl lol. good work.

      • Meadows
      • 5 years ago

      You’re trying a bit hard. SSK shows better flow.

        • ronch
        • 5 years ago

        Hush!!! Don’t blow SSK’s cover!

      • atari030
      • 5 years ago

      I’m curious over time how much effort you’ve spent crafting posts slamming AMD from every angle. In the aggregate, I would have to imagine it’s one or two man years.

    • ronch
    • 5 years ago

    Get ready for Godiva.

    • deruberhanyok
    • 5 years ago

    Hopefully they’ll be available in a reasonable timeframe after the reviews go up, and we don’t get a repeat of the A8-7600.

    I’d like to see AMD’s processor division execute something according to plan, even if it’s “just a refresh” like this.

    • sschaem
    • 5 years ago

    AMD was showing Kavery running freesync on a stock laptop over a year ago….

    Knowing AMD needs all the cash is can get…
    Why not work with OEM to market an entry level gaming laptop?
    (frankly the only and single advantage of AMD APU over intel)

    Laptop with freesync wont cost OEM a penny extra… and use the A10-7800 with a bundle like Battlefield4 or something to valid it out of the box.

    Seem like AMD want to have all the work done by the R&D department and people in sale marketing are just goofing around collecting their pay checks & bonuses.

      • ImSpartacus
      • 5 years ago

      That’s not a bad idea.

      I feel like APUs are underutilized in general. I’d love to see a ~100W APU with GDDR5 in a laptop.

      One of the reasons that AMD’s APUs are so underwhelming is that they are gimped by DDR3. Sure, this might be improved by DDR4 or another memory solution, but we need something proven and we need it sooner rather than later.

      Obviously, GDDR5 wouldn’t work well in a typical desktop, but in a laptop? You don’t need to offer replaceable memory.

      In general, APUs are about integrating. You integrate the CPU & GPU and you get benefits. Why stop there?

    • DPete27
    • 5 years ago

    Wow, AMD has bumped clocks for a refresh (or 2) in many past generations (K10/K8/earilier I’m sure). In recent years (APU-era) they’ve actually cranked out “new” processor generations at (almost) a yearly rate.

    So much negativity for AMD doing something they’ve done in the past. How fast we forget.

      • albundy
      • 5 years ago

      Well, that’s what we’re here for! bashing AMD is best served cold! compliments of the house!

    • Voldenuit
    • 5 years ago

    [quote<]Word is that AMD has a dozen Godavari APUs in the pipeline[/quote<] Where on earth is AMD going to find 12 buyers for this?

      • chuckula
      • 5 years ago

      Well… AMD does have 12 members on the BoD.

      [url<]http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-govcommcomp[/url<]

        • MadManOriginal
        • 5 years ago

        They will probably be awarded options to buy the CPU, all on shareholder’s dime.

      • albundy
      • 5 years ago

      bahaha! that’s 12 more than I would have guessed!

    • maxxcool
    • 5 years ago

    Cyril did you see this ? Any truth that Zen is being artificially delayed to 2017 ?

    “”KitGuru Says: If AMD rolls-out “Excavator”-based APUs for desktops in 2016, then it looks like its new micro-architecture code-named “Zen” will only be used for mainstream accelerated processing units in 2017, two years from now. Quite naturally this will negatively affect financial performance of AMD.””

    From : [url<]http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/amd-preps-bristol-ridge-apus-carrizo-for-desktops/[/url<]

      • Concupiscence
      • 5 years ago

      Initial buzz suggests Zen’s coming to servers first in a CPU-only design, with a subsequent APU incarnation to roll out in 2017.

        • maxxcool
        • 5 years ago

        *ouch* that’s going to leave the 5 or 6 remaining diehard’s a bit hurt ..

    • HisDivineOrder
    • 5 years ago

    It’s AMD.

    Why invent new CPU architectures or respin the old ones with dieshrinks when you can take the same architecture at the same die size and rebrand it instead with a minor bump in speed they could have easily done when the first release came out?

    And then they can say to the world quietly, “See? We’re still here. Releasing CPU’s. Or rather, we’re releasing APU’s which are unlike ANYTHING you’ve EVER seen before!”

    I mean, this is AMD. Mediocre Ministers of Spin. I’d have called them, “masters of spin,” but they’re not really masters at it, are they?

    So I’m generous and associating them with some kind of political office instead.

      • A_Pickle
      • 5 years ago

      [quote<]So I'm generous and associating them with some kind of political office instead.[/quote<] Hey now, be a little generous. At least AMD produces something...

      • Concupiscence
      • 5 years ago

      “Why invent new CPU architectures or respin the old ones with dieshrinks when you can take the same architecture at the same die size and rebrand it instead with a minor bump in speed they could have easily done when the first release came out?”

      They have no money and their engineering talent’s spread to the breaking point. Your last point’s debatable – as a process matures, yield does improve – but the CPU rehashing is unambitious because they can’t afford to pour money into a division that’s not even making money as it is.

    • maxxcool
    • 5 years ago

    meh… this is too easy now… nm …

    • bittermann
    • 5 years ago

    For the love of all that is holy you can take an unlocked 7850K and OC it to 4.1Ghz and 856Mhz on the graphics side. Its like they are not even trying any more! Besides the bottleneck is the DDR3 memory the apu has to use . Oh and they should be priced at $100 and lower. Tell me AMD as a fan how am I supposed to get excited about this?

      • ronch
      • 5 years ago

      Reminds you of their ‘new’ 95w FX processors, doesn’t it?

    • chuckula
    • 5 years ago

    Headline Fail: s/Trinity/Kaveri.

    [It’s understandable if you just copied & pasted from the earlier Trinity->Richland launch since.. uh.. so did AMD.]

      • Cyril
      • 5 years ago

      Doh, fixed.

    • Meadows
    • 5 years ago

    An extra 100 MHz, AMD? Honestly?

      • derFunkenstein
      • 5 years ago

      That’s literally all they have to give. Kaveri was a turd on the CPU front.

        • Meadows
        • 5 years ago

        [url=http://youtu.be/mbyzgeee2mg<][i<]Would they give them their car?[/i<][/url<]

          • derFunkenstein
          • 5 years ago

          Are you kidding me? of course I’d have given them the car.

      • LiamC
      • 5 years ago

      100 extra *turbo* MHz!
      Be still my beating heart…

      • Concupiscence
      • 5 years ago

      It’s not even getting a backport of the delta-based color compression we’ve been hearing about. This is just a 2.5% bump to the CPU speed and ratcheting up the GPU speed when it’s already bandwidth-starved. On the [b<]flagship model.[/b<] This pretty much screams, "We have to keep our engineers focused on things that could save the company, but can't look like we're stagnating! Take some existing stock, tweak it, and rebadge!"

        • Meadows
        • 5 years ago

        Let’s do be honest, the GPU speed bump is significant and lauded whether or not bandwidth is an issue as it’s been somewhat of a bottleneck in these APUs, considering the intended usage scenario (budget gaming).

          • Concupiscence
          • 5 years ago

          But that’s the point: bumping the GPU speed isn’t going to do much good if you can’t mitigate the bandwidth problem. Maybe it’ll make a positive difference when you jump to DDR3-2400+. Unfortunately ramping up the GPU frequency will make the parts hotter-running, reducing their general attractiveness while also failing to improve their real-world performance in a majority of demonstrable scenarios. This is engineering water treading of the first order.

            • Meadows
            • 5 years ago

            TDP is the same and surface area for cooling should still be roughly the same. I doubt this part can get significantly hotter than the previous version.

            • Concupiscence
            • 5 years ago

            If it doesn’t get hotter than the existing 7850K, I’d chalk it up to a mature process node more than any feat of engineering kung fu. Go ahead, bookmark this page. When the 8850K is released to the deafening whoosh of a kazoo orchestra and an army of monkeys with whoopee cushions, compare the benchmarks and see if I didn’t have valid concerns now, January 28th of 2015.

      • slaimus
      • 5 years ago

      [url<]http://ark.intel.com/compare/80811,75048[/url<]

        • Meadows
        • 5 years ago

        Oh, I see! Alas, intel had to increase TDP and there was no upgrade to their graphics part at all. *Clearly* AMD are doing it right.

          • Concupiscence
          • 5 years ago

          “Dude… are you being sarcastic?”
          *sigh* “I don’t even [i<]know[/i<] any more."

        • Ninjitsu
        • 5 years ago

        I’m more concerned that Devil’s Canyon doesn’t use conflict free materials.

      • maroon1
      • 5 years ago

      100Mhz for the turbo only

      The base clock is still the same as A10-7850K

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