Deal of the week: A Radeon R9 290X for $233

Big-screen TVs seem to be the deal du jour ahead of Superbowl Sunday, but there are some nice bargains on PC hardware, too. Here’s what caught my eye this morning:

  • AMD’s Radeon R9 290X graphics card is discounted all over the place. The best deal I’ve seen (thanks to Slickdeals) is at NCIX, which is selling a PowerColor variant for just $232.99 after a $30 mail-in rebate. On top of that, new customers are eligible for a $20 gift card with coupon code NEWCUST20GCJAN. Canadians can also get in on the action, but the price after rebate is $269.99, because the Loonie is now worth only slightly more than Monopoly money.
  • Craving a massive hard drive? Seagate’s Desktop HDD 6TB is marked down to $199.99 at Newegg’s Ebay outlet. Don’t ask me why the same drive is $30 more at Newegg.com. And don’t ask about the spindle speed, either, because it’s not listed on Seagate’s site. Odds are the platters spin at 5,900 RPM. (Thanks to the HardForum for this one.)
  • Today’s SSD discounts include dueling contenders in the 240-256GB range. The cheaper of the two is the Crucial MX100 256GB, which is down to $89.99 at TigerDirect with coupon code HBB152131. Intel’s 530 Series 240GB is a little pricierโ€”$109.99 at Newegg with promo code EMCAKPA22โ€”but it has a longer five-year warranty and better performance with demanding workloads. It’s hard to go wrong either way, especially if you’re upgrading from mechanical storage.
  • I gave Corsair’s Obsidian Series 450D a TR Recommended award when the case cost $119.99, but it’s a fair bit cheaper right now. Newegg has the mid-tower listed for just $89.99 after promo code EMCAKPA46 and a $10 mail-in rebate. That’s a fantastic price given the 450D’s solid performance, attractive exterior, and builder-friendly guts.

The list above is by no means exhaustive, so feel free to add any good deals you spot to the comments below.

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    • Disco
    • 5 years ago

    This might be a bit late for the weekly deals new item, but I just noticed that NCIX is selling an MSI R9 290X (1040MHz) with 4GB of 5GHZ GDDR5 memory for only $339 CDN. Regular price is $699!!

    It’s $260 off, plus a $100 mail in rebate. That’s cheap enough to make me want to buy one, and I already have a 7970 which does everything I need (more actually). They appear to be in stock throughout the western Canada supply chain.

    [url<]http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-radeon-r9-290x-gaming-df-92892-1509.htm[/url<] Scott - add that data point to your performance/$$ charts! edit - fixed typo

    • thecoldanddarkone
    • 5 years ago

    [url<]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150697&cm_sp=Homepage_FDD-_-P1_14-150-697-_-02022015[/url<] warm deal

    • Pez
    • 5 years ago

    290X’s still ยฃ250+ here in the UK ($375!)

    Me? Bitter? **grumble mutter**

    • jjj
    • 5 years ago

    In Q4 and Q1 AMD is struggling to dump old GPU inventory ,they didn’t quite managed to do so in Q4 and in Q1 demand is low so they have to push prices even lower.
    With some luck they might go even lower to clear the channel ahead of the new cards.

      • Wesmo
      • 5 years ago

      Is all this surplus inventory the result of the Bitcoin craze? Hopefully prices drop further, my 6950 is starting to get long on the tooth

        • MadManOriginal
        • 5 years ago

        That could be…maybe they overordered expecting the mining craze to continue, and are now sitting on a ton of inventory.

    • destroy.all.monsters
    • 5 years ago

    That price expired already. Original slickdeals post here: [url<]http://slickdeals.net/f/7627314-powercolor-radeon-r9-290x-4gb-gddr5-video-card-20-gift-card-233-after-30-rebate-shipping-new-customers-only[/url<]

      • vargis14
      • 5 years ago

      Yep 379$ before the 30$ rebate and they are back ordered so you can not even place on in your cart .

    • LoneWolf15
    • 5 years ago

    Wow, you could go Radeon R9 290X in Crossfire for less than a Geforce GTX 980

      • 3SR3010R
      • 5 years ago

      1000 watt power supplies are not cheap.

        • auxy
        • 5 years ago

        Eh, only ~750W would do it.

        [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/raidmax-power-supply-rx800gh<]This RAIDMAX Vampire 800W[/url<] unit should suffice, and it's only $89. I suspect a [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182323<]750W Rosewill Photon[/url<] will manage it too, depending on what the rest of your hardware is like.

          • LoneWolf15
          • 5 years ago

          Raidmax has a checkered history with PSUs; several of the better review sites have burned one up now and again, or reported issues with noise, ripple, or transient loads. I wouldn’t touch one.

          I’ve done two R9 280X cards on my Seasonic X750 Gold. Two 290X cards would probably work on it to a point, but I’d probably want at least an 800w gold-or-better PSU from a quality brand name for a 290X Crossfire setup.

          Deal’s over anyway –and I ordered a GTX 980 several days before it, so there you go.

          • thecoldanddarkone
          • 5 years ago

          Honestly, I would not put dual 290x’s on a 750w power supply. Counting the extra heat and life of a power supply’s it doesn’t seem like the best idea. (I use a 750 watt evga g2 gold). If I planned on using 290x’s I’d at least use 850, if not more.

          746 watts at the wall from hardocp on just an overclocked cpu. On my system I’d be at LEAST 2-30 watts above that (x79+3820). Sure it doesn’t count efficiency loss, but I’m not going to run a psu at 90 percent of it’s capacity either.

            • Bensam123
            • 5 years ago

            Good PSUs you can actually run over capacity, although not recommended. Don’t mistake a trash PSU with a reputable brand name one.

            • thecoldanddarkone
            • 5 years ago

            Efficiency drops when you do that. Worse efficiency on an already hot box, that seems like a terrible idea.

            • Bensam123
            • 5 years ago

            Depending on the PSU, it doesn’t. Like I said, a good brand name one isn’t the same as a crappy one. Xlabs has some good PSU comparisons.

            • chuckula
            • 5 years ago

            When you are talking about having to run a 750 watt Power Supply over capacity due to a poor choice in components then it’s better to admit defeat first instead of trying to claim that it’s the PSU’s responsibility to run out of spec.

            • jihadjoe
            • 5 years ago

            Definitely not recommended. The headroom is supposed to protect equipment, not to squander on intentional overloading.

            • killadark
            • 5 years ago

            I’m on a 850w no rating quad rail thermaltake PSU which is 6 years old and recently started switching off when my fx8350 and r9 290 pushed it too hard, apparently it was the heat.. so i strapped the default fan which ships with AMD processors underneath it and no problems since ๐Ÿ˜›

            Living on the edge

          • Bensam123
          • 5 years ago

          You can get Seasonic or Corsair PSUs for the same price or less. You just have to look for rebates and coupon codes when they pop up.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 5 years ago

            Seasonic or GTFO. It’s easy when you don’t have to even think about which PSU brand to get, or pour through professional and user reviews. I’ve put their ‘OEM’ low wattage PSUs into many basic ‘family’ IGP builds and never had a problem.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 5 years ago

          I don’t think I’d ever buy a RAIDMAX or a Rosewill PSU. Sure, they may use the same OEMs as Corsair or Enermax or whatever, but all things being equal I’d go with the brand I recognize, even if it’s more and even if it’s irrational.

            • auxy
            • 5 years ago

            [quote=”derFunkenstein”<]even if it's irrational.[/quote<]pls stop (;ยดะ”๏ฝ€)

            • derFunkenstein
            • 5 years ago

            Why? It’s my money. Besides, this 750W Corsair is only $80 with a promo code:

            [url<]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139051&cm_re=corsair_750W-_-17-139-051-_-Product[/url<] nearly 20 years of building my own systems has taught me that it's worth going with a brand that you recognize and know has good service. Corsair has world-class service if you need it.

            • JustAnEngineer
            • 5 years ago

            My experiences with Corsair customer service have been less than satisfactory.
            They took several weeks trying to deny me an RMA for a bricked SSD. When they finally agreed to the RMA, they took several weeks longer than promised to return it. When they did return it, they sent me a defective “refurbished” SSD rather than a new one. I had more trouble with them over an RMA for that one. They never returned the SSD the second time nor responded to my e-mails.

            • auxy
            • 5 years ago

            Really? Huh. I’ve replaced my corsair peripherals several times and never had an issue, although I never called them on the phone; I did it all through the website. (‘ฯ‰’)

            • derFunkenstein
            • 5 years ago

            Wait, so in the end you had 0 SSDs and no service? That’s terrible. Sorry to hear that. My only experience was far better. I returned an in-warranty VX 550W PSU that was no longer in production. They replaced it with something that I believe to be nicer overall, which is a modular CX600M. It was about 3 years into the warranty period.

            • auxy
            • 5 years ago

            I just don’t approve of irrational behavior. (ใƒŽใƒผ`)

            [super<](Don't fall victim to the fallacy that I always approve of my own behavior!)[/super<]

        • Rza79
        • 5 years ago

        850W would more than suffice.

        [url<]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371067&cm_re=HCG850M-_-17-371-067-_-Product[/url<] It's only $23.5 more expensive than the 520W version.

          • vargis14
          • 5 years ago

          Rza, If you can help it stay away from Twin Rail PSU’s like the Antec you listed. Twin rail PSU’s stink in my book. you have to make sure your not overloading one of the 12v single rails rated for 40 amps.

          Single rail is the way to go, I think it gives you a much more stable voltage across the system.
          I know I love my Corsair TX-850v2 made by Seasonic that got a awesome review from Johnny Guru who specializes on PSU reviews. I suggest anyone building a system to check out his site before purchasing a PSU. It will help you pick a PSU or point you in the right direction.

          [url<]http://www.jonnyguru.com/[/url<]

            • Rza79
            • 5 years ago

            While I totally agree with you about ‘twin-rail’ PSU’s, I think that this one from Antec passes just fine. Dual 40a 12v rails. That’s 480W per rail. Each PCI-E power cable can be wired to a separate rail (since it’s clearly marked on the PSU). I wouldn’t know how you could overload a 12v rail on this particular unit (also made by Seasonic).

            [url<]http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/HCG-850M/[/url<]

        • Phartindust
        • 5 years ago

        They are that expensive either.
        [url<]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116021[/url<]

      • Krogoth
      • 5 years ago

      Crossfire is still a league behind SLI in terms of profiles and consistence performance. I would stick with a single 290/290X and just wait for 20-14nm parts to come out.

        • swaaye
        • 5 years ago

        I suspect 380X will be about as fast as 290X CF. But these people will then buy 380X CF. Can never have enough heat, microstutter, and app profile / game compatibility quirks.

    • Coruscant
    • 5 years ago

    Part number for the Seagate 6TB implies 7200RPM

    • Arclight
    • 5 years ago

    We don’t get those prices in Europe. If i lived there i’d probably buy it even if i had a good enough card, well at least anything bellow that level of performance.

    • swaaye
    • 5 years ago

    The 290 might be entering inventory flush mode. How far off are their new card(s)?

      • Arclight
      • 5 years ago

      Rumours say around March.

      • kalelovil
      • 5 years ago

      Depending on which rumor you believe, anywhere from February to July.

        • Firestarter
        • 5 years ago

        well Damage did say he was working on a big project so I’m just going to put my hands over my ears and imagine that they’re launching next week!

        [sub<][super<]LALALALALALALALALALALALA[/super<][/sub<]

    • anotherengineer
    • 5 years ago

    That Intel drive in Can is a bit high.
    [url<]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=SSDSC2BW240A4K5&N=-1&isNodeId=1[/url<] Amazon has a decent offer on a MX 512GB $210 cnd free shipping [url<]http://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-MX100-adapter-Internal-CT512MX100SSD1/dp/B00KFAGCUM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422631069&sr=8-1&keywords=mx100+512gb[/url<] And DC with an MX100 256GB @ $116 and free gnd shipping [url<]http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR9871&vpn=CT256MX100SSD1&manufacture=CRUCIAL%20TECHNOLOGY[/url<] Edit $110 at tigerca [url<]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9083337[/url<] +shipping though

      • sweatshopking
      • 5 years ago

      I appreciate you regularly taking the time to do this!

        • auxy
        • 5 years ago

        Me too! Upvotes for all!

          • sweatshopking
          • 5 years ago

          do you live in canada?

            • tfp
            • 5 years ago

            DO YOU LIVE IN CANADA?

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            yes. Nova Scotia.

            • tfp
            • 5 years ago

            Odd I thought you where in BC somewhere, for some reason.

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            I’m originally from Van isle, but I live in NS now.

            • SomeOtherGeek
            • 5 years ago

            Both are beautiful places! Envy you.

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            I don’t miss bc, and my heart is still in africa. NS isn’t bad, but I don’t love it.

            • SomeOtherGeek
            • 5 years ago

            Oh, so you’re the open country kinda guy?

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            I’m the tropical paradise kinda guy.

            • anotherengineer
            • 5 years ago

            Sierra Leone is a tropical paradise????

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            In many ways. I prefer south east Africa, I’ve never been to western.

            • SomeOtherGeek
            • 5 years ago

            Oh wow, I was way off. I’m going to Africa one day, I don’t care how war torn it is. I have to set foot in that part of the world.

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            I highly recommend it. I’ll probably be heading over this year or next for a month or two. Catching up with my daughters village. trying to convince the wife to go to Med school in Cape town, but it’s pretty rapey.

            • MadManOriginal
            • 5 years ago

            Capetown? More like RAPEtown? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            yes.

            • anotherengineer
            • 5 years ago

            [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY[/url<]

            • auxy
            • 5 years ago

            I don’t. Texas, USA.

            I just think it’s cool that he takes the time to do it at no benefit aside from kudos! (*โ€˜โˆ€โ€˜)

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            Texas! Now I understand!

            • auxy
            • 5 years ago

            Ehh. (ยดใƒปฯ‰ใƒป๏ฝ€)

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            The whole GG thing makes sense. That’s all i meant.

            • auxy
            • 5 years ago

            [url=http://i.imgur.com/xY5eAlp.png<]Why?[/url<]

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 5 years ago

            Keeping Austin weird. I’m sure you’d fit in down there too.

      • Aerugo
      • 5 years ago
        • anotherengineer
        • 5 years ago

        Indeed.

        I skimped on Christmas, and skipped my BD last week altogether to save for a 120hz ips adaptive sync and a new card whenever they come out. But with preliminary pricing looking scary and even scarier in combination with our reduced dollar value, it’s most likely to get shelved.

        Unless those monitors do become available at decent prices. I have set around $500-$550 for 1440p and around $300 ish for 1080 ips with free sync and 120hz (sans gsync) since it will probably push the price up out of that range.

        On the fence with that 512gb mx100, don’t really need it per se, would be nice to have, however almost want to buy incase our dollar drops more and it ends up being $300, sigh.

    • ALiLPinkMonster
    • 5 years ago

    Newegg also has OCZ’s ARC 100 240GB for $80 after a rebate.

      • DPete27
      • 5 years ago

      I’ve bought 2 of those for $80 after MIR in the past month. MUCH better than a PNY Optima or Kingston V300 for the same price.

    • PrincipalSkinner
    • 5 years ago

    Aside from HoN I rarely play any other games and I absolutely wouldn’t know what to do with 290X. But, would I buy it for 270 bucks. Oh yes I would!
    Edit : Oh PowerColor. Ignore this post.

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 5 years ago

      HoN is a dork game. Just ask SSK.

      • Voldenuit
      • 5 years ago

      My Radeon 4850 was a Powercolor. Never had a problem with it, other than the (stock) heatsink burning my fingers.

      • sweatshopking
      • 5 years ago

      I also mostly play hon, sc2, and Rome 2. Rome 2 is why i bought mine, and it can’t maintain 30fps on 1080p on high. Need like 2 of them to play rome 2 max @ 1080p without huge fps drops.
      80% of my play is hon.

      • PrincipalSkinner
      • 5 years ago

      You’re only down voting coz you know I’d pwn your arses in HoN, aren’t you?

        • sweatshopking
        • 5 years ago

        what’s your account?

          • PrincipalSkinner
          • 5 years ago

          govnoslav

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            i’m sweatshop. no king, character limit ๐Ÿ™

            added you.

            • PrincipalSkinner
            • 5 years ago

            K. I play only mw lately. And on EU servers.

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            fine with me.

            • SomeOtherGeek
            • 5 years ago

            Boy, someone really loves you! Getting all the downvotes.

      • Phartindust
      • 5 years ago

      Haven’t had an issue with mine. It runs just fine.

      • sschaem
      • 5 years ago

      $270 is now pretty much day to day 290x prices, so take your pick…
      the deal here was $219, if you count the $20 in gift card money.

      This make me think, you are Canadian, right ?

    • loophole
    • 5 years ago

    If anyone has a Fry’s close to them you can pick up MSI’s 760GM-P23 (FX) for [b<]FREE[/b<] after a $10 rebate. It's a 760G socket AM3+ motherboard, so it' s nothing that'll set the world on fire, but you can't beat the price ๐Ÿ˜‰ Especially if you've got an old AM3 CPU lying around and some spare DDR3 memory.

    • chuckula
    • 5 years ago

    So there’s lots of celebrating going on due to the GTX-970 situation*…. but.. how much money is AMD making on this fire-sale clearance?

    * Send me yours for free and I’ll give it a good home. AMD’s sorry excuse for Linux drivers does a whole lot more to cripple the R9-290X than a memory access configuration glitch in the GTX-970 ever could….

      • sweatshopking
      • 5 years ago

      I’m sure the three guys running 290x’s on Linux really care.

        • chuckula
        • 5 years ago

        Downthumbed for implying that anyone using Linux would be dumb enough to buy the 290x.

        We use Nvidia hardware since somebody needs to have the next-generation computing power that makes it possible to boot windows.

          • anotherengineer
          • 5 years ago

          Who is “we”??

            • Chuckaluphagus
            • 5 years ago

            <raises hand>

            Don’t care about disputes in this area, but I certainly do go with Nvidia cards (or integrated Intel, for laptops) because their Linux drivers are better. Wasn’t an issue when I was primarily on Windows, definitely a concern on Linux.

            It looks like AMD has thankfully been making a lot of progress in this regard over the past year or so, though. Won’t mind at all if I have more selection the next time a card upgrade rolls around.

          • sweatshopking
          • 5 years ago

          hmmm seems i struck a nerve!

          PS: i used linux for years (like 5), so maybe edit you first sentence!

          • anotherengineer
          • 5 years ago

          I think anyone buying any high end gaming card for Linux would be silly in general. Isn’t the game selection and variety a little bit larger in windows land??

            • Chuckaluphagus
            • 5 years ago

            Absolutely. In my case, though, I have a desktop that’s mostly used for work but also serves for all the gaming I can fit into a few hours a week, and there are more than enough games for Linux these days to make it a reasonable proposition. It’s a matter of hundreds of good games versus thousands, but hundreds is more than enough to keep me occupied these days.

            Mind you, I’m still running a 660 Ti. Were I really looking to build a dedicated gaming machine, Windows is still by far your best option.

          • Yeats
          • 5 years ago

          [quote<][i<]...using Linux would be dumb...[/i<][/quote<]

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 5 years ago

      The 2 people who use linux always have that argument. I just can’t think of the other person…..

        • chuckula
        • 5 years ago

        Deanjo’s not here today!

          • Concupiscence
          • 5 years ago

          But I’m here today. Fglrx ranges from “boiled garbage” to “hey, this actually works, I hope it doesn’t break with the next driver update.” The open radeon driver’s… fine? For OpenGL 3.x it generally works, but demanding stuff like Serious Sam 3 is a little more than it can handle, and there are points that need fine tuning.

          Intel’s hassle-free, though the hardware’s not a barn burner. The proprietary Nvidia driver’s still a gold standard; nouveau works for some people, but it mostly gives me problems.

            • chuckula
            • 5 years ago

            That’s a pretty accurate assessment. When it comes to boring, not super-high performance but works out of the box, Intel probably wins. Older AMD hardware is actually OK with the open source drivers, but the problem is that we are talking about OLDER (pre-GCN) hardware that’s fine for light use but isn’t that great for demanding software. I personally use fanless AMD card for terminal use in a headless VPN server that works fine for that purpose, but I ain’t running AAA games or performance simulations on it either.

            However, if you need to do something cutting edge with graphics under Linux, the only real solution right now is Nvida. I’d be all ears if AMD would turn out a first-class driver for the R9-380x (or whatever they call it) because it looks like it will have powerful hardware… however, just because I *want* AMD to support linux better doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

      • Prestige Worldwide
      • 5 years ago

      380x is coming within 5 months, they will need to clear inventory regardless of the 970 drama IMO.

      • Bensam123
      • 5 years ago

      Wow, this is about the most butt hurt I’ve seen you… Argue power consumption Chuckula! That works!

      I spose you can also pretend you’re too good for a good deal, I guess. I never thought of doing that. ‘AMD only makes poor man chips, real men buy Nvidia!’

        • chuckula
        • 5 years ago

        Hey Bensam: Good to see you again.

        Now, can you explain to me again why AMD wants to kill overclocking and put small board makers out of business with their evil soldered-on Carrizo parts? Yeah, didn’t think so. Sorry about what Broadwell-K will do to AMD’s formerly vaunted intregrated GPU advantage.

        If you would install Linux, you’d know what I’m talking about but then again, I didn’t run my first Linux install until I was in Junior High so maybe one day when you’re old enough you’ll understand.

          • sweatshopking
          • 5 years ago

          LAME POST, BRO.

        • chuckula
        • 5 years ago

        Why do I want to argue power consumption when I can argue raw performance.

        The “crippled” GTX-970 puts out MORE THAN FIVE TIMES the performance of the R9-290 in Metro Last light Redux: [url<]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=metro-redux-22gpus&num=5[/url<] Funny how you don't think power consumption is important since the boys at AMD who tell you what to think sure used to think it was so important that they sacrificed even more of the R&D budget to make this ad: [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QkyfGJgcwQ[/url<]

          • sweatshopking
          • 5 years ago

          WHY DON’T THE MAGIC OPEN SOURCE AMD DRIVERS WORK MAGICALLY. THEY’RE OPEN SOURCE. ISN’T THAT THE POINT? MAGIC?

            • Prestige Worldwide
            • 5 years ago

            I THOUGHT OPEN SOURCE AND OPEN STANDARDS WERE FTW

            CALL LINUX FREEOS AND THEY WILL DROP WINGREEDIA OVERNIGHT

      • Krogoth
      • 5 years ago

      *nix drivers for AMD/ATI work fine for most part.

      Yes, there are stupid issues but you can argue the same case for the Nvidia side. The primary difference is that Nvidia is far more proactive at patching stuff up then AMD/ATI, but AMD/ATI are much better then they were a decade ago.

      The crappy ATI/AMD drivers and Nvidia drivers are golden meme stop being funny back in ~2006. They both have stupid issues that can be found in every OS environment. The fanboys grossly exaggerate their impact.

        • auxy
        • 5 years ago

        [quote=”Krogoth”<]The crappy ATI/AMD drivers and Nvidia drivers are golden meme stop being funny back in ~2006.[/quote<]It stopped being funny back in 2006 because it had been TRUE for too long, and it's still true today. "crap" and "golden" are exaggerations, but as someone who very recently moved from NVIDIA to AMD, I'm frustrated by several outstanding issues with the drivers, and CCC is still garbage. A couple of these issues existed the LAST time I was using a Radeon, in the HD 4xxx era. Don't get me wrong, I'll tell you -- I was pleasantly surprised overall by how well the card works given how buggy and crap the drivers were for my HD 4xxx, but I had NO issues EVER with the drivers for my NVIDIA cards, even whenever I was abusing them with NVIDIA Inspector. [b<]"A few" isn't "many", but it's infinitely more than "none."[/b<]

          • Krogoth
          • 5 years ago

          ATI meme came from the RAGE-era where ATI drivers were utterly junk. ATI turn itself around around the time of original Radeon 8500 series and onward. They got better and were about at Nvidia’s era around Radeon X1xxx-Geforce 6xxx-era and it has been pretty been the same since then.

          I can still point out a number of stupid issues that still persist with Nvidia drivers as well as AMD/ATI. The difference is that overwhelming majority of them are minor at best and they only affect bleeding edge software and/or obscure software/hardware combinations. The fanboys turn these “minor” issues into gaming-stopping “OMFG IT IS THE END OF WORLD!”-type of non-sense.

          If you just do general computing and gaming. AMD and Nvidia drivers are pretty solid and painless to the end user. The majority of current complaints are actually from idiots who overclock their hardware or have sub-par power/cooling for their GPU. They sometimes even mistake GPU issues for CPU, motherboard and [b<]memory-related[/b<] problems.

    • sweatshopking
    • 5 years ago

    How does that factor into your value proposition, scott? does the 960 still seem like a good idea for most people?

      • derFunkenstein
      • 5 years ago

      Why are you asking questions you already know the answer to? Are you trying to see if TR is on the take?

        • sweatshopking
        • 5 years ago

        No, I just know that he doesn’t like the power requirements of the 290x. Just wondering how cheap it would have to be before he thought it was thr better deal. I’ve been here too long to care or worry about him being on the take.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 5 years ago

          While I’m not him, my complaints about power draw aren’t really the cost (I pay 8c American per kW/h, which seems pretty average). It’s the same thing as 80+ PSUs – more efficiency means less heat. In the winter it might be nice, but in the summer the hot air gets trapped under my desk and makes my scrotum sweat like gangbusters. I think 290X performance is a reasonable tradeoff. I can buy a little battery-operated fan for my nibbly bits.

            • sweatshopking
            • 5 years ago

            I pay 15c canadian per kW/h, and i live in canada, so YES PLEASE MORE HEAT K TNX

            • derFunkenstein
            • 5 years ago

            I could see that being useful. But when it’s 100F (37C) and my AC is cranked, I just don’t want all the heat.

            • anotherengineer
            • 5 years ago

            Insulation!! Do you has any??!!?
            and
            Get a bigger AC too ๐Ÿ˜‰

            OR

            290x vs GTX 980 in game about 100W difference, or about the same as 1 person gives off.

            Send wife outside while gaming ๐Ÿ˜€

            WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

            • derFunkenstein
            • 5 years ago

            I should send her outside anyway. lol

            • f0d
            • 5 years ago

            8c? ๐Ÿ™
            currently paying 26c per kW/h here in aus

            • derFunkenstein
            • 5 years ago

            well with currency conversion that’s more like 22c US but that’s still really high.

            • anotherengineer
            • 5 years ago

            About 19.6c/kW.hr here in Ontario after taxes etc. included. And min wage here is half of what it is in Aus!!! And winter 7 months of the year. My brother has electric baseboard heaters and to avoid getting raped in winter, he pays a flat monthly rate year round, of $400/month, and he doesn’t even have central AC for the summer either!!

            Each province on either side of Ontario, and electricity is half or slightly less than half or here. Just ridiculous.

            • f0d
            • 5 years ago

            ouch
            although i dont have to worry about it getting too cold it does get hot here often and although i dont have central air con i do have aircon in the lounge room and a portable aircon in my bedroom to stop things from melting in the summer (like plastics/low grade metals etc…. lol)

            im glad im from australia as i dont think i could handle the cold weather – heck when it rarely gets down to 10/15 degrees (about 59 fahrenheit using my google skills) i put on 2 jumpers and track pants under my jeans and 2 pairs of socks and still feel cold

          • Prestige Worldwide
          • 5 years ago

          At $230-260, power consumption be damned, the performance is worth it at that price.

            • l33t-g4m3r
            • 5 years ago

            Now, now. We all know that power consumption is the be all and end all reason to buy a 960. Everyone is also using super small miniature HTPC’s, so the 290 won’t even fit. Who needs 4k, high detail settings, or AA/AF anyway? 1080p should be good enough for everyone. Nvidia also has better linux drivers, and that’s important for some reason. /sarcasm. Based on a true story.

        • l33t-g4m3r
        • 5 years ago

        I’m not saying they are, but since when has TR ever tested NV’s mid-range cards using demanding or high detail games? I started noticing this trend back when they turned dx11 OFF for a Batman benchmark, and used tessellation with medium settings in Metro vs AMD’s VLIW cards.

        It never fails either. Mid-range Nv cards are NEVER pushed hard enough to see where the limitations are, but AMD cards are always benchmarked with tough games.

        Why wasn’t the 960 tested with tessellation? Was it because it’s triangle per clock throughput was cut in half, and it would tank the benchmark? Just saying. Nv’s gimped cards do very well within their limitations, but problems arise once you hit scenarios that push them. It shouldn’t be all on the consumer to find out what those limitations are after the fact.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 5 years ago

          My assumption is that it’s not a playable experience. And if that’s the case, maybe you don’t really want that card.

          • MadManOriginal
          • 5 years ago

          Umm, you do know that when they publish a GPU review, they retest all the GPUs within that review at the same settings?

      • Ryhadar
      • 5 years ago

      Better value or not, a 290X at $233 is a ridiculously good deal. I don’t even want a new card and it sounds tempting.

        • anotherengineer
        • 5 years ago

        Indeed!

        I remember paying $215 for my HD 4850 and thought that was a great deal.

      • MadManOriginal
      • 5 years ago

      It doesn’t exactly have stellar user reviews on Newegg, if that matters to anyone. It’s always important to check out partner custom graphics card user reviews to see if there are any serious issues.

        • Pwnstar
        • 5 years ago

        That’s what warranties are for.

          • travbrad
          • 5 years ago

          Great in theory, but depending on the company the RMA process can take a looooong time. I’ve seen RMAs take a week and I’ve seen them take 3 months. The customer service backing up a warranty is usually more important than the warranty itself.

          It’s been 10+ years since I RMA’ed a Powercolor card but back then it took a full month for them to send a refurbished replacement. Then the replacement failed within 6 months with exactly the same problem as the first one.

            • Pwnstar
            • 5 years ago

            Good thing I have a backup card.

      • Bensam123
      • 5 years ago

      I think someone could argue the power usage scenario over the next 20 years.

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