Say hello to Seattle with AMD’s Opteron A1100 ARM SoC

AMD introduced the first official product born from its Seattle project this morning. The Opteron A1100 system-on-a-chip will have up to eight 64-bit ARM Cortex-A57 CPU cores sharing 4MB of L2 cache and 8MB of L3 cache. It can talk to DDR3 or DDR4 ECC RAM over two 64-bit channels. The chip also has two onboard 10Gbps Ethernet NICs, eight lanes of PCIe 3.0 connectivity, and 14 SATA 6Gbps ports.

This Opteron platform is already powering Softiron's Overdrive 3000 developer platform, and it'll also serve as the foundation for an upcoming series of Softiron software-defined storage products. AMD has also partnered with Silver Lining Systems to produce dense servers with A1100 SoCs inside. Those systems are targeted at streaming, Web, and storage applications in large-scale data centers.

On the software side, business-class Linux providers Red Hat and SUSE have both teamed up with AMD to ensure that Linux and its applications can run on ARM Opterons. Red Hat VP Ranga Rangachari says "AMD has been instrumental in the testing and porting of the world's leading enterprise Linux platform to 64-bit ARM architecture." AMD says Opteron A1100 SoCs are available in mass-production quantities starting today.

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    • Srsly_Bro
    • 4 years ago

    Hello

    • ronch
    • 4 years ago

    Here is AMD’s [url=https://youtu.be/IxCTOd4dGU0<]Promo Video[/url<] on the Opteron 1100 Series. Now all you guys see why this is the answer to all your prayers? Make sure you get your AMD Opteron 1100 Series system [u<][b<]TODAY[/u<][/b<]!!!

      • chuckula
      • 4 years ago

      Needs moar Fix3r.

      Edit: They did record it at 60 FPS. I’ll give them props for that.

      BUT I’D GIVE MORE PROPS FOR THE FIX3R AT 60 FPS!

        • ronch
        • 4 years ago

        Ha! I’d like to see them do a cheeseball video with the Fixer smashing a top dog 4-socket 18-core (72-cores total) Xeon server!

    • raddude9
    • 4 years ago

    Looks like a good competitor for the Avoton platform, similar CPU performance and price, with better I/O, but higher power consumption.
    I see a bunch of NAS platforms built on the Avoton that would benefit from moving to this chip instead. Which reminds me whatever happened to intel’s replacement for Avoton, the “Denverton” platform? wasn’t that due out in 2015?

      • NeelyCam
      • 4 years ago

      From [url=http://www.anandtech.com/show/9956/the-silver-lining-of-the-late-amd-opteron-a1100-arrival<]Anandtech[/url<]: [quote<]"And last but not least, the Atom has been available for more than 2 years now. Its successor, Denverton - or the 14 nm Atom C3xxx - should arrive in the second half of 2016. But Intel is late too, as Denverton was also supposed to be in the market by early 2015."[/quote<]

    • The Dark One
    • 4 years ago

    I realize a large chunk of the power consumption is going to all the I/O bits, but I wonder how much the use of A57 cores hurt them. We’ve been hearing for a whole year about how hot the Snapdragon 810 has been with its stock A57’s and now the same ARM core are expected to compete in a market that places a huge value on performance per watt?

      • NoOne ButMe
      • 4 years ago

      810 problems are oddly due to a broken MC. The 8 A57 probably use around 20-25W at 2Ghz here.

      • chuckula
      • 4 years ago

      The advantage that AMD has is that these things don’t have to fit into a smartphone physical & thermal envelope. They most certainly won’t win any power efficiency prizes, but a good HSF will allow them to operate without any major throttling.

    • ronch
    • 4 years ago

    Of course, we all know AMD is pinning their hopes on Zen to actually gain server market share. The ARM server market is a new market with no guarantee of success, which is why even K12 was given less priority. Let’s not kid ourselves — x86 will be very difficult to kick out, especially with Intel behind it. With servers, the stability and dependability of the company that makes parts for the computers that you trust with your business is paramount, and sticking with what works is the norm especially given how IT guys are very conservative. They’re not gonna bet the (server) farm just to save some money buying into a new platform from a company with less stability (and may well go kaboom any day) and having to write and validate tons of new code for. Heck, even with Zen being x86, most IT guys will still choose Intel unless AMD gives them significantly better price/performance/watt.

    • ronch
    • 4 years ago

    I suppose this is the Kabini of servers, eh?

    Reminds me of the current-gen consoles’ use of many weak cores that, together, will hopefully be powerful enough to run demanding tasks. Of course, server apps are more commonly parallelized than games, so putting more cores in a server chip is fine. The only real question is how efficient using many small ARM cores is compared to huge but fewer x86 cores. I reckon Anandtech or whoever did some tests before (I think it was Cavium or some other ARM licensee’s product) but IIRC the results were not very convincing.

    • Leader952
    • 4 years ago

    Looks like a nice chip to build a NAS around:

    A1120 @ 25 watts
    4 A57 cores
    ECC Memory (DDR3 or DDR4)
    2 10Gbps Nics
    14 SATA 6Gbps ports

    The price though will need to drop to be competitive against Intel.

    [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/9956/the-silver-lining-of-the-late-amd-opteron-a1100-arrival[/url<]

    • Pancake
    • 4 years ago

    I hope they have a big customer already lined up to take a few million of these otherwise it’ll be yet more tears for AMD.

    • Mr Bill
    • 4 years ago

    Arrrrrm! Er, Arrrrrg! We be likin the cut of your jib!

    • Mikael33
    • 4 years ago

    But will it run Crysis 3 at 4k?

    • OneShotOneKill
    • 4 years ago

    We need someone else from TR to be hired to AMD’s CPU division to straighten it out.

      • chuckula
      • 4 years ago

      The Force is strong with Wasson, but even he can only fix the GPUs single handedly.

    • chuckula
    • 4 years ago

    [quote<][i<]Developing...[/i<][/quote<] Now don't get me wrong, I think old-school analog photography with your own dark room is a fun hobby, but we'd like to have the rest of the article too.

      • Cyril
      • 4 years ago

      Dick move, bro.

        • Meadows
        • 4 years ago

        Hi, Cyril!

        • ronch
        • 4 years ago

        Why is this a dick move? I don’t get it.

        • lycium
        • 4 years ago

        Maybe, but now you’ve put a spotlight on it :S

        Anyway, good to see you around. Miss your writing around here a bit 🙂

        • maxxcool
        • 4 years ago

        LOL..

    • torquer
    • 4 years ago

    Hello. Is it TDP you’re looking for?

      • ronch
      • 4 years ago

      Let me start by saying… CPU.

    • Wildchild
    • 4 years ago

    2016 is looking like a good year for AMD already.

    Thanks, Scott.

      • ClickClick5
      • 4 years ago

      Scott does what Scott wants.

      And that is to make sure Scott has a lasting paycheck.
      Scott pushes out the goods.

        • the
        • 4 years ago

        This Scott Wasson running AMD is becoming a local myth just like how SSK helped start TR.

          • ronch
          • 4 years ago

          Frankly it’s getting old real quick.

            • lycium
            • 4 years ago

            I worry that it’ll make TR seem partial. Probably also something Scott worries about, and maybe should address.

            • tipoo
            • 4 years ago

            They did address it though. He has no input on reviews. I hope he swings by now and again with an article about his life and stuff though.

            • lycium
            • 4 years ago

            I mean addressing the phenomenon of associating Scott with every AMD post on here.

            It’s maybe to a degree unavoidable, but some sort of official word on why it’s “dangerous” (for TR’s image to outsiders who don’t know how independent it’s been, and still is) would be good maybe; something people can link to when it happens.

            • TruthSerum
            • 4 years ago

            It’s not dangerous. Scott moved on, Intel Skylake is a flop, those are coincidences.

          • chuckula
          • 4 years ago

          SSK helping to found TR is no myth!

            • TruthSerum
            • 4 years ago

            It’s just a bad joke, gotcha.

      • ronch
      • 4 years ago

      Why? Because Seattle was delayed from H2 2014 to this year?

    • NoOne ButMe
    • 4 years ago

    Amazingly AMD is a year late and still ahead of everyone else in ARM server volume.

    when AMD is the leader in getting CPUs out first with a year long delay it makes one wonder how the segment can possibly survive.

    • cygnus1
    • 4 years ago

    Good lord, why won’t they put together a similar x86 product… I’d love to see this with 8 Jaguar style cores (or their current equivalent). That would be great as a low end VM/File server. Like a lower CPU powered Xeon-D style SoC, but with 14 SATA ports!

      • Flatland_Spider
      • 4 years ago

      That makes too much sense. Stop it! 🙂

      PC Engines is working on a router appliance board with 4 Jaguar cores. (http://pcengines.ch/apu2b4.htm)

        • cygnus1
        • 4 years ago

        Yeah, those GX embedded parts show AMD doesn’t think much of the Jaguar style cores, let alone that big datacenter/enterprises would be interested. I’m assuming almost anybody interested in these ARM based Opterons would probably also be interested in an x86 equivalent.

        I can already foresee the COTS NAS vendors (like QNAP and Synology) will be all over these SoCs as it is though.

          • NoOne ButMe
          • 4 years ago

          I think the only reason AMD even kept with Seattle is they know potential customers needed a working ARM system to test with. With X86 they know it can work. Here this is just “ARM works on any Linux” like anandtech talked about.

          Think of Seattle as an investment in K12 being viable?

            • Flatland_Spider
            • 4 years ago

            I think it’s more that they see an opportunity to expand their processor portfolio.

            They have more experience working with server customers and the PC ecosystem then anyone else in the arena, so it’s not a bad move.

            • ronch
            • 4 years ago

            The engineers who had actual server experience probably already left.

          • Flatland_Spider
          • 4 years ago

          That’s kind of what the cat cores were designed for.

          The old Alix boards those replace sold really well in the low power appliance space, and those boards were ancient when they were new. They’re a good upgrade.

          I think there would have been interest if AMD had pushed harder in that direction. Their main competition would have been Via, and they were ahead of Intel in that space. The feature set on the PC Engine APU board is pretty interesting. Coreboot, ECC support, quad core, x86.

          AMD has this uncanny ability to abandon any that could possibly make money for them.

            • cygnus1
            • 4 years ago

            [quote<] AMD has this uncanny ability to abandon any that could possibly make money for them. [/quote<] QFT. They can't win despite themselves...

      • NoOne ButMe
      • 4 years ago

      Because AMD would than have a part that made sense and would be released on time that isn’t a GPU.

      • the
      • 4 years ago

      Indeed. I’d up the SATA count to 18 to handle a 4 x 4 host swap enclosure + 2 spares and add a few more PCIe lanes. Many of these storage applications don’t need high CPU performance but they can use as much IO as they can get.

        • cygnus1
        • 4 years ago

        I’m all for 18 ports. With 14 I was basically thinking 12 spinners and 2 SSD’s. With 18 I’d probably go 12 online spinners, 2 spare spinners, and 4 SSD.

          • the
          • 4 years ago

          I’m just thinking of the relatively common chassis with 16 hot swap bays. That’d include the spare spinners in that figure since you’d want them hot swap anyway. The two extra would before SSD or in the increasingly rare case optical. Either way,

          Only thing better would be a chip with a massive 80 lanes of PCIe connectivity with all of them able to be dedicated to U.2 storage. That would be a dream IO monster and flexible enough to host storage or even GPU compute nodes that’d need little CPU power.

      • slowriot
      • 4 years ago

      I think that route would have delivered a product that arrived sooner and had better immediate ecosystem…. that was bought by no one or had to be sold at such low prices it wouldn’t move the needle for AMD.

      AMD probably doesn’t want to make an x86 product in this segment. It’s an opportunity to get away from x86, in a market space that doesn’t *need* x86.

        • Klimax
        • 4 years ago

        What market is that? (As applicable to chip in question)

    • DragonDaddyBear
    • 4 years ago

    Sadly, I probably won’t be able to afford one of these boards when they come out. The Xenon-D’s I was looking at were $500 for the board alone. I can’t imagine these will be much cheaper.

      • cygnus1
      • 4 years ago

      considering the Xeon-D boards come with the CPU, $500 isn’t all that bad for what you get

        • DragonDaddyBear
        • 4 years ago

        No, of course not. And you get some really nice features for that price like board management, 10Gbps links, ECC etc.

        For an ARM board, though, $300-$400 is going to be too much IMO. You lose out on a lot of compatible software for very little money saved. Additionally, the TDP appears to be rather high for the performance.

          • cygnus1
          • 4 years ago

          Considering the embedded dual 10g NICs, the better power comparison would Xeon-D which is rated for nearly 50% more power use. Understandable given the performance delta.

          The 10g NICs really do use a fair amount of power. You really have to account for that, comparing to any other SoC that only has 1g NICs embedded isn’t fair.

      • NoOne ButMe
      • 4 years ago

      Actually now a whole different site, Arstechnica says AMD tells them about $150. Sigh, this pricing this is getting insane.

      2nd edit: Anandtech claims a board+SoC is coming at $300-400. I guess $300 for the QC and $400 for the top end 8C?

      3rd edit: I was incorrect as noted by Chuckula, the price is $150, not $158.

      OP: the top CPU (with the board? I am unclear) is $158. So should be at least a hundred dollars cheaper.

      edit: Someone please tell me why I got downvoted for saying the price for the top end chip and estimating price with a board added in. Thanks.

        • chuckula
        • 4 years ago

        You got downthumbed for two major reasons:
        1. You posted lots of specific numbers with no factual attributions.
        2. You are flat out wrong.

        Here’s what Anandtech actually has to say about the matter. Note how I accurately quote without taking things out of context and how I actually link to my source material:

        [quote<]Overall the A1100's 32W TDP looks high and performance expectations are low, so why bother? Pricing perhaps? Unfortunately the answer to that will be "no," as AMD told us that the initial price of the A1170 SoC will be $150. That is the same price of the Atom C2730 (eight cores at 1.7 GHz), which will probably perform at the same level, but the Intel chip is a 12W TDP chip. At $150 the A1100 even comes dangerously close to the quad core, 8 thread Xeon D-1520 at 2.2 GHz ($199). Do not let the 4-cores fool you, we found that the octal core (16 thread) Xeon D-1540 is no less than 5.5 times faster than an Atom C2750 in real server workloads. Take a look below.[/quote<] Link: [url<]http://anandtech.com/show/9956/the-silver-lining-of-the-late-amd-opteron-a1100-arrival[/url<] So basically, when we look at real facts, AMD is pricing these parts in 2016 at the same price as comparable Intel parts... from 2013. Oh, and the year-old Xeon D, which is probably literally twice as fast with even better power efficiency, is going for... wait for it... $40 more than the "cheap" AMD miracle chip. Yeah, you were downthumbed for very solid reasons. Next time, try living in the real world instead of your own Fantasy Island. There isn't as much Corinthian leather, but you might get a more positive response.

          • UberGerbil
          • 4 years ago

          You know, I would’ve upvoted this post if you’d left out that final paragraph.

            • Concupiscence
            • 4 years ago

            Seconded. It just makes it so hostile and personal.

          • NoOne ButMe
          • 4 years ago

          Sorry, I was $8 off the price. All downvotes game right after I posted originally before it was edited in. My board price is perfectly reasonable (a $158 SoC will have at least 1 board be under $242) if you stop and think.

          My pricing did end up being wrong, at $8 to high, as was shown in a story that was posted after my post was written.

          I never made claims about performance, pricing related to other parts, etc. I posted a price which was indeed slightly off and relative to the $500 price with a board by Losergamer04, which I took as truth, was reasonable truthful. And later proven to be correct.

          edit: Looking around myself the cheapest Xeon D on a board in my 10 minute search is $490. You can talk about list prices from Intel, but the only Xeon D I can find to buy alone is over $900.

    • thill9
    • 4 years ago

    Can’t believe no one has said it yet… Thanks, Scott!!

      • Theolendras
      • 4 years ago

      Can’t believe how efficient the guy is. In about a month, he single handily create RTG Group to distance itself from hurtful branding, rebrand and redesign the driver software suite with Crimson with frame rate control, release an upgrade dongle for HDMI 2.0 all the way to 5 years old GPU, throw away GCN 4.0 architecture nuggets to the public with an heavy influence, release the full Tonga chip in the R9 380X to ship, fix pricing over the Fury line, modernize the AMD motherboard platform, get 14nm production fix on both Samsung and GloFo, get roadmap of Zen and software developpement kit public. He suggest to release a new heatsink with every boxed CPU that doesn’t sound like a dustbuster and convince the engineers to unify socket for next gen CPUs

      I’d say not too shabby of a month indeed. Thank you Scott !!

        • f0d
        • 4 years ago

        at this rate amd will buy intel and apple in a year

          • Mikael33
          • 4 years ago

          Don’t forget Microsoft

    • ronch
    • 4 years ago

    Here’s hoping the ARM server market finally takes off.

    It’s a Crysis, I know. But who knows, right?

      • dpaus
      • 4 years ago

      It’s ‘CriSys’, buddy, and I think this chip would run it just fine…

      • moshpit
      • 4 years ago

      Yup

    • NTMBK
    • 4 years ago

    Hello!

      • chuckula
      • 4 years ago

      Hola! Me llamo est Chuckulos.

        • NTMBK
        • 4 years ago

        Donde esta la biblioteca?

          • chuckula
          • 4 years ago

          ?!?!?!?QUAL ES DE NUMERO DE TELEFONO POR FLAVOUR?!?!?!

            • ronch
            • 4 years ago

            Oh so that’s why I’m having trouble with Google Translate….

      • ronch
      • 4 years ago

      Who do you think you are, Lionel Richie?

        • cygnus1
        • 4 years ago

        Nah, then it would’ve been:

        Hello…

          • the
          • 4 years ago

          Purportedly

    • DrCR
    • 4 years ago

    Disappointing. If Seattle put in a phone-home feature like everyone else, we wouldn’t have to go out of our way to say manually hello. Just another example of AMD being behind the times.

      • Meadows
      • 4 years ago

      Holy contrived headline jokes, Batman!

        • DrCR
        • 4 years ago

        Well it was apparently not well received.

          • TruthSerum
          • 4 years ago

          Don’t lose any sleep over your Seattle joke.

      • UberGerbil
      • 4 years ago

      Alas for the headline, the Public Image Ltd song that opens with a repeated “Hello” is [i<]not[/i<] the one titled "Seattle"

        • bean7
        • 4 years ago

        To the rescue: “Hello Seattle” by Owl City [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VlK2BOhmvU[/url<].

    • chuckula
    • 4 years ago

    Blam!

    [url<]https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117100[/url<]

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