Ash Wednesday Shortbread

Eight is Enough

  1. It’s official: Intel shuts down the cheap over-

    clocking party by closing Skylake loophole

  2. AMD increases notebook traction
  3. WCCFtech: AMD’s Zen-based Opteron processors to feature

    32 cores in MCM package—8-channel DDR4 memory support

  4. Guru3D: Plextor adds Plextor M6S Plus
  5. VR-Zone: ViewSonic launches a FreeSync-enabled 4K gaming monitor
  6. Neowin: Windows 10 build 10586.104 rolls out,

    as Microsoft launches new ‘Update History’ site

  7. Major Geeks have Windows XP SP4 Unofficial 3.1a
  8. GamesRadar: Fallout 4 patch 1.3 live, enjoy

    better draw distances with your bug fixes


Ash Wednesday

  1. techPowerUp!: Asus announces the RP-AC68U gaming router
  2. Phoronix: Nvidia 361.28 Linux driver released
  3. Firefox 44.0.1 release notes
  4. Softpedia: Valve adds great Steam Controller

    improvements to the latest Steam Beta Client

  5. VG24/7: Here are Hitman’s minimum

    and recommended system requirements

  6. Newegg’s deals

Hardware

  1. Hardware Canucks on Asus B150 Pro Gaming/Aura
  2. Technology X’s Ventev USB Charging Hub 400 review
  3. KitGuru on SanDisk’s 480GB Extreme 900 portable USB Type-C SSD
  4. Ocaholic’s 240GB Samsung PM863 SSD review
  5. Benchmark Reviews on Gamdias Eros Elite EQ headset
  6. Techgage on SteelSeries Apex M800 illuminated keyboard
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    • smilingcrow
    • 4 years ago

    Having 8 and 16 core chips make more sense at 14nm doesn’t it?
    Then they can scale as high as 32C with MCM and use the 16C chips as the basis for the 10C to 14C range as Intel does without the need for MCM. A good way to utilise faulty chips that way.
    Otherwise there is the complexity of 4 chips in an MCM package which sounds challenging!
    Does having 4 chips on an MCM make the pin count very high especially with 8 memory channels?

    • ronch
    • 4 years ago

    “WCCFtech: AMD’s Zen-based Opteron processors to feature 32 cores in MCM package—8-channel DDR4 memory support”

    You guys forgot to include the blue link?

    Anyway, so this means 4 DDR4 channels per die or there will be 4 8-core dies in that MCM with 2 channels each?

      • the
      • 4 years ago

      If AMD is going to go to all in with interposers, the answer might actually be zero memory channels as the memory controllers themselves would be separate dies. This would enable AMD to easily scale the number CPU dies in a package for a range of products.

      IO like PCIe controllers would be incorporated in the memory controller die since IO would be a fixed amount per socket like the number of memory channels.

      Opteron:
      16 total cores? two CPU dies + two quad channel memory controller dies
      24 total cores? three CPU dies + two quad channel memory controller dies
      32 total cores? four CPU dies + two quad channel memory controller dies

      HPC:
      One CPU die + two GPU die + HBM + two quad channel memory controller dies

      Consumer:
      One CPU die + GPU die + HBM + one quad channel memory controller die

      The thing with all those products is that there are only four main components: the CPU, GPU, quad channel memory controller and HBM. Each of these could be a relatively small die size (which reduces cost), future generations don’t have to replace all the components (which reduces cost), nor do they have to use the same manufacturing node (which can also reduce cost). The big downside is that interposers are expensive but once you’ve gone down that path, it makes sense to exploit it.

        • willmore
        • 4 years ago

        It’s almost like we talked about this just last week:
        [url<]http://wccftech.com/amd-zeppelin-32-x86-cores-vega-10/[/url<]

        • mesyn191
        • 4 years ago

        1st gen. Zen server parts won’t be HBM. Maaaybe 2nd gen in 2017 or 2018.

        They need to move volume, lots of volume, and HBM would limit them at this point.

          • the
          • 4 years ago

          The limiting factor would be the interposer and right now that would indeed limit things. However, interposer packing has been picking up in volume. Considering the low volume, high margin nature of the server parts in general, I don’t see this being an issue at the end the year. (The pure CPU parts wouldn’t use HBM in my hypothetical schema.)

          Edit:
          Though there may not be enough interposer packaging development for the consumer parts for the first generation. Keeping the consumer parts monolithic for the first few iterations also makes sense due to the cost factor and how sensitive that area is to price.

        • MOSFET
        • 4 years ago

        the,

        I think you might be smarter than AMD! I hope not (for AMD’s sake, of course), and your listed plan actually reminds me of DEC’s ingenuity of the 60’s with their smart modules.

        • ronch
        • 4 years ago

        You should write for WCCFtech. 🙂

          • TopHatKiller
          • 4 years ago

          NOBODY ‘writes’ for wccftech.

    • anotherengineer
    • 4 years ago

    “WCCFtech: AMD’s Zen-based Opteron processors to feature
    32 cores in MCM package—8-channel DDR4 memory support ”

    no link?

    • anotherengineer
    • 4 years ago

    Title is R&P

    *waits for Ned to lock it down* 😉

    the wink means I’m kidding…………….sheesh

      • willmore
      • 4 years ago

      What do you have against Pokemon?
      [url<]http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201601_0938_dbaba_sm.jpg[/url<]

        • anotherengineer
        • 4 years ago

        There is only 1.

        [url<]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/81/7c/e5/817ce5e72c2589e18c59144d5835750e.jpg[/url<]

          • the
          • 4 years ago

          A challenger appears!

          [url<]http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5a/5ad6c8f9897f923139508114de14254e39448111a2df182724814d9322721861.jpg[/url<]

    • Aquilino
    • 4 years ago

    Hoping tomorrow will be Ripley Thursday Shortbread.

    • NTMBK
    • 4 years ago

    Do AMD’s “Pro” APUs come with Firepro drivers? That seems like an obvious way to beat Intel in the low-cost workstation market- validated drivers which are guaranteed to work with CAD tools.

    • The Egg
    • 4 years ago

    [quote<]Asus announces the RP-AC68U gaming router [/quote<] Are people showing off their routers as centerpieces now? (Friends come over) "Hey, nice router man!" I prefer my routers not to be seen, and (if it's doing it's job properly) never even thought about.

      • chuckula
      • 4 years ago

      You know that annoying cabinet that goes over your refrigerator in the kitchen that you can never reach?

      I’ve got an ethernet jack and a power connector there for the home router.

      • Inkling
      • 4 years ago

      Spot on. What’s the point of making a router look stylish if it increases the cost a penny?

      I guess I might pay a bit extra for a router that looked like a lamp, book, or wall art for those rare cases where I can’t easily hide it.

        • oldog
        • 4 years ago

        This is actually a brilliant idea. Putting a good router or better yet an access point in some innocuous “objet d’art” could be a HUGE seller.

        Kickstarter project?

        • the
        • 4 years ago

        Probably going to happen more often as 60 Ghz spectrum gear starts hitting the market. Since they effectively need line of sight to work, those access points can’t be hidden away like those serving just the 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz spectrums.

      • Goty
      • 4 years ago

      It’s actually an access point/repeater and not a router (mistake on TPU’s part), so maybe the design makes more sense.

        • The Egg
        • 4 years ago

        [quote<]so maybe the design makes more sense.[/quote<] How is an access point any different than a router in that regard? Networking equipment should be as hidden as possible and just do its job. Unless, as mentioned, you want to show off your router/access point to your friends.

    • raddude9
    • 4 years ago

    How about a link for the WCCFtech story:
    [url<]http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-opteron-processor-32-core/[/url<]

      • blastdoor
      • 4 years ago

      Thanks for the link.

      I’m hoping that they’ll at least match Sandy Bridge in terms of performance/watt. If they can do that, then the key will be what AMD charges and how Intel responds. Intel charges a huge premium for anything more than 4 cores, leaving plenty of room for AMD to compete…. unless of course Intel decides to cut prices.

      • ronch
      • 4 years ago

      I read it but apart from some tiny bit of info, WCCF’s articles are usually a whole lot of nothing. By that, I mean they just state and restate the obvious.

      “Zen will be AMD’s next-gen core.”

      “Zen will be faster.”

      “Zen will be built on a smaller, more advanced node.”

      “Zen will succeed Bulldozer’s lineage.”

      Uh huh.

    • DancinJack
    • 4 years ago

    Maybe need a link for III. ?

    [url<]http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-opteron-processor-32-core/[/url<]

    • ludi
    • 4 years ago

    Huh. I was hoping “AMD increases notebook traction” was a market survey report but it’s just an AMD press release regarding a couple HP design wins. Which is not nothing, but not necessarily something, either.

      • chuckula
      • 4 years ago

      I thought AMD had put chains and a sand dispenser on notebooks.
      I am disappoint.

      • bittermann
      • 4 years ago

      If OEM’s (including HP) neutered these like they did the FX-8800P laptops sold recently I wouldn’t even bother. I can’t believe AMD let them get away with that crap.

      • Hattig
      • 4 years ago

      Especially when HP probably pairs those RAM hungry APUs with single channel DDR3 1600 :p

        • anotherengineer
        • 4 years ago

        Well a few things would have to be looked into.

        -Who makes the motherboards?

        -Is there actually dual channel channel motherboards?

        -What ram speed is supported by those motherboards?

        I think those some of those AMD FX chips support DDR3-2133 speeds.

          • bittermann
          • 4 years ago

          HP made mine. The FX-8800P chips used for 99% of AMD FX laptop builds use 15w chips that ramp up to 20-25w for a minute or two then ramp down. The FX chips normal tdp is 35w. 15w chips can only use DDR3 1600MHZ no matter if the chip supports higher MHZ memory or not. Tested and confirmed on mine and by a different forum who tracked these FX abomination laptops. It was also confirmed that since they are the same pin out design as the cheaper Carrizo-L’s a lot of OEM’s only included single channel memory so even if dual channel (2 sticks) are used and or reported as such testing confirms it still only uses single channel. The cheap ass OEM’s literally sabotaged what could have been outstanding budget gaming laptops. And AMD stood by and watched. The following article confirms/validates what some of us have known since late last fall.

          [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/10000/who-controls-user-experience-amd-carrizo-thoroughly-tested[/url<]

            • anotherengineer
            • 4 years ago

            That does suck pretty bad then. Rather unfortunate, having a chip that can never be run at full potential.

      • beck2448
      • 4 years ago

      Just a press release. Wait for Jon Peddle for something approaching fact.

    • PrincipalSkinner
    • 4 years ago

    First.

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