Philips’ new 43-inch monitor might make native 4K practical

Philips is releasing the BDM4350UC in the United States and the UK today. This 43-inch 4K IPS display supersedes the company's BDM4065UC monitor, which was a little smaller and used a VA panel. Thanks to its large size for a PC monitor, this display offers a relatively standard 103-PPI density—about the same as that of a 27" 2560×1440 display. That PPI figure might make the BDM4350UC a good choice for folks who want the information density of a 4K display minus the eyestrain of running smaller 4K screens without a scaling factor.

The BDM4350UC boasts  178-degree viewing angles both horizontally and vertically, and its 5ms GTG response time could be a nice improvement over the previous model's 8ms spec. The claimed 1200:1 contrast ratio isn't bad, either. Like the previous model, this monitor can reproduce 1.07 billion colors. Unlike the previous model, Philips says this display uses a flicker-free backlight.

The BDM4350UC trades the mini DisplayPort input of its older sibling for another full-sized DisplayPort. All in all, this display has two DisplayPorts, two MHL-compatible HDMI ports, and a VGA connection. The monitor also features a four-port USB 3.0 hub. Philips' MultiView firmware enables two-device Picture-in-Picture, or the ability to view up to four devices simultaneously in Picture-by-Picture mode. 7-watt speakers and VESA mounts round out the feature list. This monitor has been available in certain regions for a couple of months, but it's only now making its debut in the Anglophone world. Amazon has it for $799 right now.

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    • jts888
    • 4 years ago

    This thing looks great, and I’d definitely get one if I wasn’t already using an LG UHD TV as my workstation display (even same panel that Philips is using?).

    I will however upgrade to the first 40″+ IPS display with 120 Hz input display over DP 1.3/1.4 though.

    The Philip’s flick-free backlight is nice, but I’d also love to see the ability to toggle between DC backlight control and 120 Hz strobed for when I wanted higher motion clarity. Adaptive-sync would be nice too. 🙂

    • FranzVonPapen
    • 4 years ago

    relatively, relatively
    without, without

    Zak: you’re reusing words in close proximity to each other. It’s jarring to read.

      • RAGEPRO
      • 4 years ago

      Wasn’t actually me! Thanks for the feedback, though.

        • FranzVonPapen
        • 4 years ago

        Are you the article author, Zak, or are you not? I don’t understand your comment.

          • RAGEPRO
          • 4 years ago

          Yep, that’s me. I wrote the article, but it was kind of a mess, and required a lot of editing. At some point we got some wires crossed; might’ve been editing the article at the same time. Thanks for pointing it out.

    • Gadgety
    • 4 years ago

    Looks very interesting, but shouldn’t it have HDCP2.2 compliance?

    • Visigoth
    • 4 years ago

    I wonder how this would compare to Dell’s recently released P4317Q:

    [url<]http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=210-AHSQ[/url<]

      • snowMAN
      • 4 years ago

      WTF, the Dell is a new UHD display that only has HDMI 1.4. Immediate fail, better luck next time.

        • Visigoth
        • 4 years ago

        DisplayPort > HDMI.

      • Gadgety
      • 4 years ago

      Looks like the Philips is half the price.

    • One Sick Puppy
    • 4 years ago

    I’d hit that for sure. I’ve been running a 40″ TV as my main monitor for about 7 years. Tried to go back to a standard, smaller monitor but never been able to do it.

    • blahsaysblah
    • 4 years ago

    The bad pixel policy sucks [edit] and can’t find if its a matte screen or not:

    BRIGHT DOT DEFECTS ACCEPTABLE LEVEL
    1 lit subpixel 2
    2 adjacent lit subpixels 0
    3 adjacent lit subpixels (one white pixel) 0
    [b<]Total bright dot defects of all types 10[/b<] BLACK DOT DEFECTS ACCEPTABLE LEVEL 1 dark subpixel 8 or fewer 2 adjacent dark subpixels 2 or fewer 3 adjacent dark subpixels 0 Distance between two black dot defects* >=20mm [b<]Total black dot defects of all types 10 or fewer[/b<] TOTAL DOT DEFECTS ACCEPTABLE LEVEL [b<]Total bright or black dot defects of all types 12 or fewer[/b<]

    • kcarlile
    • 4 years ago

    I have the 40 at work. Terrrrible color accuracy. Pretty damn awesome screen area. Very good price. Hopefully the 43 gets rid of #1 and keeps the other two.

      • snowMAN
      • 4 years ago

      You shouldn’t compare the two, the BDM4065 has a MVA panel, this one is IPS.

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 4 years ago

        yeah, with ips even if the accuracy out of the box is bad typically you can modify it in a way to compensate.

    • drunkrx
    • 4 years ago

    Just missing a serial bus connection for remote controlling it. Sigh. I see it has SmartControl software but its only Windows.

      • Visigoth
      • 4 years ago

      Then Dell’s P4317Q is going to be your best friend:

      [url<]http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=210-AHSQ[/url<]

        • drunkrx
        • 4 years ago

        Wow thanks for the tip. 🙂

      • Deanjo
      • 4 years ago

      Use HDMI-CEC

        • drunkrx
        • 4 years ago

        That’s not useful for the remote management and multiview.

    • Farting Bob
    • 4 years ago

    What is the point of a VGA connector (which was superseded by DVI in 1999) on a 4k display?

      • UberGerbil
      • 4 years ago

      It’s possibly useful for the PiP mode — you might have an older device that only offers VGA (eg security camera) that you may want to view occasionally (or leave running in one corner). It’s a niche use, but the VGA port is pennies and the processing may be free (if the IC they’re using includes it anyway — in fact, it almost certainly was in there already which is the only reason they bothered).

      • Krogoth
      • 4 years ago

      Troubleshooting on legacy, KVM and server-tier equipment.

      The RAMDACs found on most video cards operate at ~400Mhz so VGA output would be limited to ~2560×1600@60Hz. That’s assuming you are using quality VGA cabling and video card vendor didn’t cut corners on analog output.

    • kamikaziechameleon
    • 4 years ago

    This is a perfect option for me. Very highly considering it.

    • Anovoca
    • 4 years ago

    lol “practical”

      • ozymandias
      • 4 years ago

      Still with a VGA connection. Would be interesting to see what resolution you’d be able to get out of VGA, and how it would look on a 40″ screen.

    • thesmileman
    • 4 years ago

    no Gsync. 🙁 Thought it might be nice for casual gaming.

      • moose17145
      • 4 years ago

      I was thinking the same thing except “FreeSync” instead of “GSync”…

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 4 years ago

        either or, wish they had atleast free sync (as a free and open standard) on every panel darn it.

    • WasabiVengeance
    • 4 years ago

    Is scaling in windows still that bad that you’d *want* a screen with that low of a PPI just to avoid it? o_O; My gf’s surface seems to be scaling just fine, but that’s my recent windows experience, and it was pretty brief.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 4 years ago

      Scaling is fine, from what I can tell, but on the desktop I basically never want high PPI over more desktop space (to a point, anyway, because it has to be legible for my old-man eyes). A 43″ display isn’t practical for me to look at, I guess, but it’s nice to know I could if I wanted to.

      Seems like I can never have quite enough space in my text editors to show everything I want to see at one time.

        • spugm1r3
        • 4 years ago

        Honestly, I thought the same thing. Then I started using a 39″ 4K at work. Coupled with a proper windows manager, large format 4K is awesome for productivity. The ergonomics smashes the triple screen setup I was running previously, as well.

      • EndlessWaves
      • 4 years ago

      I’m not quite sure what you’re imagining the alternative to be. As far as I know nobody does 7680×4320 screens at this size (at sensible prices) and four 21.5″ 206dpi screens have the obvious downside.

      • End User
      • 4 years ago

      Scaling sucks away the advantage that a high native resolution supplies. The smaller the display the worse it is. I hate scaling on a laptop. I’m using the native resolution on my MacBook . Native 4K on a 43″ display sounds good to me.

      • w76
      • 4 years ago

      I’ve got a 27″ 1440p monitor, and my old eyes wouldn’t want much higher PPI. Now, off my lawn!

        • derFunkenstein
        • 4 years ago

        That’s basically what this is. Same surface area as four 1080p 21.5″ displays. Around 105 ppi.

        • End User
        • 4 years ago

        A 27″ 5K display would be awesome as that is quad pixel 2560×1440.

      • Chrispy_
      • 4 years ago

      because so much content (web graphics, game textures, all movies and tv) is raster graphics that gain ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from scaling.

      The only things that benefit from high PPI are vector fonts and wireframe games (or wireframe-like elements in games).

      Scaling only looks good at 200%, which effectively quadruples the graphics workload for a halving of the pixel aliasing in [i<]vector graphics only[/i<]. IMO that's a terrible tradeoff, but you're welcome to your "I like to squint and waste my phone battery/GPU budget/eyesight" opinion if you disagree with me.

        • tsk
        • 4 years ago

        Why can’t the whole OS use vector graphics?
        Wouldn’t that fix everything, or is it too much work?

          • UberGerbil
          • 4 years ago

          The OS isn’t the problem. Effectively most* of the graphics in the UI elements (lines, gradients, fonts, etc) [i<]are[/i<] vector graphics, and have been for a long time. The problem is everything else [i<]inside[/i<] the UI elements. Like web pages, most notably. Have a look at TR itself: every product photo, every ad, all of those are bitmaps and none of them are going to be vector graphics soon.. or ever. So if you're scaling the webpage, what do you do? If it's a 2x factor, you can just make the pixels bigger. But if not, you have to do the usual stretch-and-interpolate and it [i<]never[/i<] looks very good. * Icons are not, but that's why we have "retina" icons now. Even Apple couldn't figure out how to force their developers to do vector icons.

    • Pitabred
    • 4 years ago

    I like my 28″ 4K. If it’s a TV it’s one thing, but I sit close enough to a monitor that 43″ is just too big unless you’ve got a 5′ desk with the monitor at the far side of it. The normal two to three feet at most? 43″ is insane.

    [i<]Edit: Make that 28", it's a U28D590D[/i<]

      • Jigar
      • 4 years ago

      Some people like me use it – I use 42″ LED TV as a monitor and I can’t see myself using anything smaller.

    • Bauxite
    • 4 years ago

    If you have a 9xx series card w/ hdmi 2.0, the top end Samsung 48″ JS9000 is $999 at BJs right now. Sold as a TV but has a great panel and does 4:4:4 which makes a really nice curved desktop monitor, basically quad 24″ 1080p without bezels.

      • cygnus1
      • 4 years ago

      That tv/monitor is really nice, and [url=http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/js9000<]rated really well[/url<]. But it's unfortunate that it doesn't accept any input higher than 60Hz.

        • the
        • 4 years ago

        Considering the amount of bandwidth necessary to drive 4K at 4:4:4, moving beyond 60 Hz would require moving to DP 1.3 at this point in time.

          • cygnus1
          • 4 years ago

          Right, but it won’t accept 1080p at higher than 60Hz either. The point I was making is that the panel is 120Hz but doesn’t accept any input greater than 60Hz at any resolution.

            • mcnabney
            • 4 years ago

            There are 4k Vizio displays being sold right now that do 4kp60 and 1080p120. And they have low latency and good refresh. For less money.

            If you can mount a big display to the wall behind your desk you can save money going with select UHD TVs over desktop monitors that are still in gouge-mode.

        • Bauxite
        • 4 years ago

        No shipping card or monitor does 4k SST past 60hz. The cards might be talked about in a few days but the monitors aren’t anytime soon.

          • cygnus1
          • 4 years ago

          Right, but it won’t accept 1080p at higher than 60Hz either. The point I was making is that the panel is 120Hz but doesn’t accept any input greater than 60Hz at any resolution.

      • Nike
      • 4 years ago

      Now it just needs gsync. Although it would be nice to have ambilight* too which is unfortunately philips only.

      *Yes, I know it isn’t universally loved, but I happen to dig it.

      • JosiahBradley
      • 4 years ago

      Or any AMD/nVidia card that uses DP 1.2 as DP1.2->HDMI2 adapters don’t cost that much.

      • Chrispy_
      • 4 years ago

      I endorse (and primarily use) a large format HDTV as a monitor, but when looking at reviews you have to remember that all the fancy features that reviewers swoon over is either:

      a) disabled in game mode to get acceptable levels of input lag, vastly reducing image quality
      b) adds (in the case of the JS9000) 65-153ms of input lag, making it practically unusable for gaming

    • drfish
    • 4 years ago

    This is a better screen [url=https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=116722<]than what I tried[/url<] but I learned enough to know that much screen is just too big for my taste. I'm much happier with a single 34" 21:9.

      • Ifalna
      • 4 years ago

      Yep, my friend has a 45″ TV and we used that as a monitor for a while.
      Fun, but in the long run it is annoying. You constantly have to move your head and you always miss things in games.

      30″ would probably be the cutoff point for me personally.

      • vargis14
      • 4 years ago

      Went from 37″ 1080p to 34″ 3440-1440p 21/9 and it is basically same width just shorter than the 37″16/9 TV.
      Absolutely love it..60Hrtz IPS

    • whm1974
    • 4 years ago

    Me want!!!

      • Neutronbeam
      • 4 years ago

      Me want you to buy for me!!!

    • JosiahBradley
    • 4 years ago

    IPS: Check, 4K: Check, Giant: Check, <1000$ Check. Hello 4K!

      • sweatshopking
      • 4 years ago

      Don’t forget my address!

      • the
      • 4 years ago

      Only thing missing is Freesync/Gsync and this would be perfect.

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 4 years ago

        That indeed would be amazing. I’m wondering how much that matters for the kind of games and model of usage I have… awe heck it matters they should stinking put one or the other or both in ever flipping monitor, then consoles could plug into it and cut down the darn chop.

      • snowMAN
      • 4 years ago

      Flicker-free backlight: Check! Credit Card: Check!

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