Tuesday Shortbread

Eight is Enough

  1. DigiTimes: Intel, Microsoft to limit OS support

    on new processors; to increase IPC players costs

  2. AnandTech: AMD changes SSD strategy: high-end M.2 /

    NVMe SSDs incoming, low-cost R3 drives are here

  3. VideoCardz: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 full presentation
  4. VideoCardz: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080

    final specifications and launch presentation

  5. CPCR: AMD’s marketing strategy for its

    Polaris GPUs is brilliant and here’s why

  6. Linux 4.6 is out
  7. MSPoweruser: Microsoft working on a new tool

    to make clean installing Windows 10 a lot easier

  8. AMD Radeon Software Crimson

    Edition 16.5.2.1 release notes


Tuesday

  1. The Intercept is broadening access to the Snowden archive. Here’s why
  2. GamesIndustry.biz: Razer opening first U.S. retail store
  3. AnandTech: G.Skill unveils new

    Trident Z DDR4: five new colors

  4. VG24/7: Sony’s PS4 Neo to be released

    before the end of September – report

  5. Infinity Blade III on discount

Hardware

  1. The Rojak Pot’s Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon first look
  2. VR-Zone’s Asus Z170 Deluxe review
  3. Hardware Asylum’s EVGA X99 FTW K motherboard review
  4. HotHardware’s Maingear Rush SuperStock X99 review
  5. Funky Kit’s 480GB Patriot Blast SSD review
  6. TweakTown on Trendnet TEW-827DRU AC2600

    StreamBoost MU-MIMO wireless router

  7. techPowerUp! reviews 550W FSP Hydro X series PSU
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    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 4 years ago

    GTX 1070 specs leaked

    [url<]http://videocardz.com/60127/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-has-1920-cuda-cores[/url<]

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 4 years ago

      I read that also. 75% of a 1080 that’s already cut down.

    • Ninjitsu
    • 4 years ago

    [quote<]MSPoweruser: Microsoft working on a new tool to make clean installing Windows 10 a lot easier[/quote<] MS modus operendi: 1 Make thing really annoying and complicated 2 Make another annoying thing that makes doing 1 easier 3 GOTO 1

    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 4 years ago

    Guru3d review is live
    [url<]http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review,1.html[/url<]

      • bfar
      • 4 years ago

      Christ, it’s fast!

        • mesyn191
        • 4 years ago

        For $600 its OK. With a new arch. + a new smaller process you’d think they’d be able to get closer to 40-50% faster. Maybe they tried to hard to keep power usage down? Would explain why they’ll be expected to get 2Ghz+ clock speeds when overclocked.

        I hope the “full” version of Pascal that is coming can do a whole lot better at stock speeds.

        AMD doesn’t seem to be all that interesting from a performance stand point though either with Polaris10 but at least they’re going for market share this time. Seems to be expected to do 390X to 980Ti levels of performance. At least they’ll probably be keeping the price under $300. Should get awfully close to 1070’s performance for around $100 less. Maybe they’ll actually get some good sales with it.

          • Prestige Worldwide
          • 4 years ago

          Custom boards should have more OC headroom. Mind you the “founder’s edition” only has 1 8 pin power connection, and custom cards will probably have 8+6 or 8+8, and more on some extreme designs. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some models hitting 2.5 GHz.

            • mesyn191
            • 4 years ago

            Sure a few golden boards will pull it off but I suspect it won’t be common at all.

          • bfar
          • 4 years ago

          Yea, Nvida are really pushing up the prices of these. That founders edition is a load of nonsense – if they think they can get a premium from early adopters, that’s fair enough, but call a spade a spade and communicate it properly.

          Based on what I’ve seen today, the 1070 will be the card to watch.

            • mesyn191
            • 4 years ago

            Maybe. $380 or so for 980-980Ti performance is far from bad but if the 480X gets close for $100 less that would seem to be the card to watch to me.

            • bfar
            • 4 years ago

            I’m not sure why you’re down voted, because that’s possible.

            My estimate is that the 1070 will beat the 980ti by 5 or 10%. Not much is known about the 480x, but rumors are saying anything from 390x up to 980ti performance. I suspect it will be closer to the former. If I’m right it would need to be dirt cheap.

      • Krogoth
      • 4 years ago

      It is the 680 again with 980 pricing.

      Tl;Dr version of review. 1080 is perfect for 4Megapixel gaming, but overkill for 2Megapixel. It still falls short in 4K gaming if you want to go in direction. You are going have to wait for customer version of Big Pascal.

    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 4 years ago

    A Chinese review published early

    [url<]http://www.pcpop.com/view/2/2763/2763166_all.shtml?r=17180620#p1[/url<]

    • SomeOtherGeek
    • 4 years ago

    Thank you, Ronald, for serving me breakfast! Was good.

    • NTMBK
    • 4 years ago

    A Razer store? Urghhh. That company is just a hollow shell. People accuse Apple of being nothing but brand identity, but Razer literally just slaps their logo on crap and charges a mark up.

      • Prestige Worldwide
      • 4 years ago

      Can’t speak for their other products, but I am very happy with the Deathadder 2008 and 2013 models.

        • NovusBogus
        • 4 years ago

        I like my Razer mice too, even as generic USB devices without their evil mouse DRM drivers. The ergonomics are just better than most of the competition, which is more interested in cramming in as many LEDs as possible than making it work well as a mouse.

    • bfar
    • 4 years ago

    Are the Pascal reviews landing today?

      • chuckula
      • 4 years ago

      9 AM Eastern

        • bfar
        • 4 years ago

        Looking forward to a good read, especially on TR 🙂 I’ll probably be picking up a new GPU this summer.

          • chuckula
          • 4 years ago

          Unfortunately, unless TR got a late review sample, they are not going to have the review today.

          Which is why even though I most likely will buy a GTX-1080, I’m delaying my purchase until TR posts its official review.

            • Prestige Worldwide
            • 4 years ago

            Custom AIB boards probably won’t launch until mid June so you should be OK.

        • f0d
        • 4 years ago

        i thought it was 6AM?
        as in like 10 minutes from now

        edit: i am australian maybe im converting the times wrong

          • Prestige Worldwide
          • 4 years ago

          6 AM west coast USA, 9 AM east coast.

      • nanoflower
      • 4 years ago

      Should be. Though it will still only be for the 1080. Makes you wonder if the speculation that the 1070 is a better value may turn out to be true as that would be one reason to hold back the 1070 for a few weeks.

        • chuckula
        • 4 years ago

        It’s not much of a secret that the 1070 will likely be better on a price/performance graph.
        Then again, even at $700 the 1080 is almost guaranteed to beat the Fury-X on a price/performance graph and, more importantly, while it’s more expensive than the 390X, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it still have the better price/performance ratio.

          • NTMBK
          • 4 years ago

          Is 1070 not likely to be memory bottlenecked?

            • chuckula
            • 4 years ago

            That’s probably the 1070’s Achille’s heel, not the fact that the GPU is cut down somewhat from the 1080.

            We will soon find out just how important memory bandwidth actually is.

            • Krogoth
            • 4 years ago

            Overclocking results from the 1080 seem to indicate that the silicon is bandwidth starved when push hard at 4Megapixel gaming and beyond.

          • bhtooefr
          • 4 years ago

          Don’t forget the R9 Nano being at $500, now, though, and only 50 MHz slower than an R9 Fury X. I want to see benchmarks, of course.

            • chuckula
            • 4 years ago

            Short version: The Nano is basically a GTX-980 (not Ti) competitor in real-life. Hence, the price.

    • JustAnEngineer
    • 4 years ago

    I’m not able to develop much sympathy for the companies that don’t want to spend money in the short run to support their software on modern Intel processors and Microsoft operating systems. In the longer view, it’s better for everyone (especially the consumer) if they will move on to current-generation hardware and software.

      • w76
      • 4 years ago

      If you mean the DigiTimes article, if you read it, it has nothing to do with consumers at all, even indirectly. The complaint is from industrial users. Everyone is so wise, but I sure can’t see any benefit to upgrading the OS on, say, our 10yr old component saw. It fetches work off the network fine, it chews through lumber better than when it was new, and the OS and control software work fine. Upgrading the OS buys us little security (it’s not exposed to the internet), no extra productivity, and would cost us a fortune to pay someone to rewrite the code to support a newer OS.

      I especially can’t see the benefit in our 15-20yr old equipment. If for some reason we couldn’t forward the necessary ports through to a Win95 VM, the cost of rewriting the control software for a modern OS would exceed the value of the otherwise perfectly functional equipment, in no small part because the original developers are likely either retired or dead.

      Contrary to what you said, that wouldn’t be better for consumers, it’d be worse. That cost would be passed right on to our customers (home builders), who would then pass it on with a markup to consumers, to the benefit of absolutely nobody (except whoever we’d hire to update the software).

        • blastdoor
        • 4 years ago

        ah…. so that’s what IPC means! I was very confused by that article.

        But how does this relate to upgrading the OS on a 10 year old saw? It sounded like the article was just saying that the latest Intel processors will require win10. Are people upgrading the processors on their 10 year old saws but wanting to hold onto an older OS? What’s the benefit of upgrading the processor?

          • DreadCthulhu
          • 4 years ago

          Well, not so much upgrading, but sometimes the computer controlling the big, expensive industrial equipment fails, and the company needs to get a new computer (which means a new processor since the old one isn’t being made anymore). The company buying the new computer would prefer to set up an older OS on it, as their very specialized control software might not work on a newer OS, and a version that does work on a newer OS might be very expensive and/or might not actually exist.

          Basically, the companies who own this sort of equipment want to treat the control PC like any other part that breaks, and want to be able to replace it with as close of a part as possible, so nothing gets messed up.

            • Ninjitsu
            • 4 years ago

            [quote<]Basically, the companies who own this sort of equipment want to treat the control PC like any other part that breaks[/quote<] Which is how it should be, frankly.

            • w76
            • 4 years ago

            Exactly. We have some spare parts stockpiled to protect against this sort of thing, but the environment these machines operate in is hot, sometimes humid, plenty of vibration and in our case not a small amount of sawdust floating around. (I also watched a poor control computer get impaled by an inattentive forklift driver) Keep in mind this is equipment that, asides from the occasional part needing replacing, could last 20-30 years easy, and even used is worth $500k at minimum.

            When a computer part breaks, and we can’t find something in our stockpiles or available for overnight on eBay/etc., we’ll have to turn to new parts. In that scenario, we don’t want (and shouldn’t have) to be software developers, not when it’s avoidable.

            • blastdoor
            • 4 years ago

            Very understandable perspective.

            Maybe this is easier to see in hindsight (or perhaps this observation is wrong for other reasons), but I guess this strikes me as a situation where using a Windows-PC for computer control is perhaps not the best design choice. Might Linux be a better option here?

      • Shouefref
      • 4 years ago

      Sandra B*s: those new things don’t sell because they days of primitive computing are long gone. But those companies want double digit growth every year.

      • Ninjitsu
      • 4 years ago

      It’s terrible for the environment, though. Reuse and recyle!

      It’s only really better for Intel and MS.

      Also, with Windows 10 I think companies will need to constantly re-write software every few months – if MS thinks something’s not being used they’ll just terminate it with an OS update. Then all this exercise is silly because companies won’t update.

      • albundy
      • 4 years ago

      forcing a hand that feeds you will more than likely lead to your demise. this could be dramatic if amd learned to grab these opportunities.

        • JustAnEngineer
        • 4 years ago

        The linked article doesn’t talk about people trying to find spare parts to maintain old equipment. It talks about the companies building [b<]new[/b<] equipment not wanting to spend money to update the designs of their new equipment and software to be compatible with current Intel processors and Microsoft operating systems.

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