Here’s a first look at AMD’s Radeon RX 480 graphics card

Information about AMD's Radeon RX 480 graphics card has leaked like a sieve the past couple days. Along with the card itself, AMD sent us a note saying that it would be OK if, y'know, we took a few pictures of the RX 480 and shared them with you ahead of the NDA lift—as long as we didn't take it apart. Let's take a quick look at the RX 480's externals.

The RX 480 reference cooler is 9.5" long, and its design language is of a piece with the fancy shroud that debuted on the Radeon R9 Fury X. AMD continues to use a blower-style fan on this reference card.

Flipping the RX 480 over reveals…well, not much. The card has a surprisingly stubby PCB, so most of the first quarter of its length is actually an intake for the blower fan. The fact that AMD uses vents on both sides of the card is a nice touch for folks thinking about CrossFire setups.

The card's rear end houses three DisplayPort 1.3 outs and an HDMI 2.0b port. From this angle, you can just barely catch a look at the single PCIe six-pin power input the RX 480 needs to do its thing. We'd love to talk more about what this card can do today, but you'll just have to wait for our full review for all the details.

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    • Mr Bill
    • 3 years ago

    Just about an inch longer than the Nano PCB. Maybe just enough space for a circle/row of GDDR5.

    • Ifalna
    • 3 years ago

    Cute little board.
    What’s with the huge honkin’ cooler?

      • tipoo
      • 3 years ago

      Drawing in air from both sides. Good for Crossfire, if you’re into that kinky stuff.

        • Ifalna
        • 3 years ago

        I’m way too monogamous to consider crossfire.

        • Mr Bill
        • 3 years ago

        [quote<]Drawing in air from both sides.[/quote<] and not just blowing it around in the case.

    • Zizy
    • 3 years ago

    I can’t recall seeing more attention for an upcoming GPU than for this one.

      • Spunjji
      • 3 years ago

      Props to AMD for managing to push out a good trickle of info.

    • Pendragon80
    • 3 years ago

    Supposedly the 480 provide’s 980 performance at $230,not sure everybody so excited.A decent non ref will cost $270 easily…where is vega?.

    • sophisticles
    • 3 years ago

    This just confirms my suspicions that both Nvidia and Intel are “boycotting” TR because of that guy that went to work for AMD. AMD lets them post pics of their new card ahead of NDA lift and thus far no 1080 and no 6950x review to be found, despite samples of both having been sent to other review sites a while ago (by tech site standards).

    On the bright side maybe TR will get an exclusive sneak peak at the sure to be dissapointing Zen when it’s finally ready.

      • Waco
      • 3 years ago

      You make no logical sense. TR has had a 1080 for a long time, it’s just taking a while to finish the review. This can happen due to many things, and panicking about a non-existant boycott is historically pointless.

        • Pettytheft
        • 3 years ago

        They did get the sample late and rather than rush a subpar review I think they decided to do a all in one review of the new cards. Will be a nice comparison.

      • tipoo
      • 3 years ago

      Strange way to boycott, considering they gave them a 1080 and all. It was late, but from the comments it seemed like something that’s now resolved.

      • chuckula
      • 3 years ago

      Yeah, Intel boycotted TR so hard that they sent over a brand new i7 6950X that Jeff even said they weren’t expecting.

      [quote<] We also weren't expecting a Core i7-6950X sample from Intel, but one arrived and that was another demand on Robert's shoulders that we just weren't prepared for. There was no way either of those products was going to get a launch-day review, or even a couple-days-after-launch review. Sucks, but that's the way things worked out. Frame-time benchmarking is integral to our CPU reviews, and there was no way Robert could move forward on that project without preparing for the GTX 1080, too. [/quote<] [url<]https://techreport.com/discussion/30204/intel-boosts-the-high-end-desktop-with-its-broadwell-e-cpus?post=983361[/url<] So if anything, Intel is colluding with AMD to delay TR's review of the GTX-1080 that Nvidia sent over. Not a very well run boycott.

      • Ninjitsu
      • 3 years ago

      This just confirms my suspicions that quite a few people here don’t actually know things but pretend they do.

    • Jigar
    • 3 years ago

    Reviews, Reviews, Reviews … πŸ™‚

    • ronch
    • 3 years ago

    I see lots of folks having one of these under the Tree this December, myself included.

    • Laykun
    • 3 years ago

    Now take it apart.

    • tipoo
    • 3 years ago

    It’s no graph, but allegedly the RX480 playing Doom with a FPS counter, with settings at end of video

    [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6t3l7Wts4[/url<]

    • anotherengineer
    • 3 years ago

    The back side of the card is kind of blurry Jeff. You should have asked Hasselblad for a camera for review.

    Then you could review while you review πŸ˜‰

      • Mr Bill
      • 3 years ago

      Likely blurred on purpose. Or we could figure out where the GDDR5 were located.

    • TwoEars
    • 3 years ago

    Great to hear you got a card, very much looking forward to the review.

    • south side sammy
    • 3 years ago

    that card’s so ugly the doctor slapped it’s mother.

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 3 years ago

      If its mom got slapped, RIP south side sammy’s mom.

    • anotherengineer
    • 3 years ago

    Just in time for the steam sale. Time to make a few game donations to a few friends and ruin their social life muwahahahaha.

    • ronch
    • 3 years ago

    So… typical AMD reference design. How many times have we seen this shroud? Could’ve been an old stock photo from the GCN 1.0 days.

    Edit – ok I take it back. The PCB is a lot shorter this time. Why didn’t they make the cooler smaller?

      • derFunkenstein
      • 3 years ago

      Except those cards are plenty long. You can see the back of this one that the PCB itself is pretty short.

      • USAFTW
      • 3 years ago

      You mean since Fury X/R9 300 series (which never came to market with a reference cooler anyway) last year?

    • djayjp
    • 3 years ago

    The new fps/$ king.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 3 years ago

      Gonna be hard to unseat the GTX 1070, but for $ < $400 you may be right.

        • ImSpartacus
        • 3 years ago

        Even at $380, the $200 480 still wins.

        Worst case, the 480 matches the 290 (remember it must meet the VR min spec of 290/970), and it’s [url=https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/24.html<]60-65% of the performance of a 1070[/url<], for only 52% of the cost (60% of the cost if you want the 8GB variant at $230) of a $380 1070. Though at the leaked clocks of 1100-1200Mhz, it'll potentially perform a fair bit better than a 290. For example, the 480 could perform like a 390X (also Hawaii-based), then you've got 70-75% of the performance of a 1070. Now it's not even close. And all of that is assuming a $380 1070, which is just not realistic in today's market. I don't doubt that Nvidia will release a "1060" that will compete with the 480, but it's just hard for a ~$350-450 card to compete with a $200-250 card on perf/$, no matter the manufacturer.

    • USAFTW
    • 3 years ago

    I wonder if the shroud is made out of metal. Can’t tell from the pictures so far.

      • DPete27
      • 3 years ago

      Unlikely. They couldn’t even afford enough metal for a decent heatsink.

        • anotherengineer
        • 3 years ago

        Copper and aluminum are worth more than steel πŸ˜‰

          • ImSpartacus
          • 3 years ago

          What’s the advantage of a steel shroud? This is a $200 card. Corners have to be cut.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            I know. It’d just add weight anyways and put more stress on the PCIe slot.

            Plastic is plenty strong for what the shroud needs to do. Which is just to guide air over the heatsink and maaaaaaaaybe offer a bit more protection to the PCB.

            • anotherengineer
            • 3 years ago

            Missed the joke. There is quite a bit of aluminum and copper in the current heatsink. Also DPete is a structural eng, (steel is their life πŸ˜‰

            edit “What’s the advantage of a steel shroud? ”
            since you asked, it would add a “bad ass” factor to the card πŸ˜‰

      • Chrispy_
      • 3 years ago

      It’s plastic, I updated [url=https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118087<]my post[/url<] from a few days back with more pictures. If we're lucky though, the dimpled plate on the front is still at least that soft-touch finish which feels a bit upmarket at least.

        • tipoo
        • 3 years ago

        Soft touch shroud, heated leather seats standard.

      • Airmantharp
      • 3 years ago

      Why does it matter?

    • chuckula
    • 3 years ago

    I’ll give AMD some props for actually getting an Rx 480 out for review to Phoronix: [url<]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-RX-480-Is-Going[/url<] This is literally the first time Phoronix has received a GPU from AMD prior to the launch date, and even post-launch review samples from AMD have been incredibly rare in the past.

      • Spunjji
      • 3 years ago

      Holy cow!

      …I wonder whether this signals intent to do better with Linux, or just desperation for market share?

        • tipoo
        • 3 years ago

        A little of column A, a little of column B?

        • anotherengineer
        • 3 years ago

        Well if steam machines start taking off, and if windows gets more lame, that linux market share could end up meaning something more than it does now.

          • tipoo
          • 3 years ago

          I’m sure the industry is just prepping to get upended at the whopping Steam Machine sales of under 500,000 so far.

      • anotherengineer
      • 3 years ago

      “If anyone has any special test requests for my RX 480 Linux review, I’ll try to honor them if you are a Phoronix Premium member. ”

      So chuck, what tests did you request?? πŸ˜‰

        • chuckula
        • 3 years ago

        The one where he shows how the hell to actually get working drivers installed πŸ™‚

          • anotherengineer
          • 3 years ago

          That’s an easy one.

          Extract the driver, open the install text, and delete the ‘if TR Chuckula garble install’

          And that should do it πŸ˜‰

    • ebomb808
    • 3 years ago

    Will be funny if this review gets posted before the GTX 1080

      • UberGerbil
      • 3 years ago

      Cue a bunch of idiots claiming that proves TR’s pro-AMD bias.

        • cegras
        • 3 years ago

        Cue chuckula in an apoplectic strawman fit.

          • Wonders
          • 3 years ago

          Hey, cut out the bullying.

            • mcarson09
            • 3 years ago

            Slackers need to be called out for what they do!

          • chuckula
          • 3 years ago

          Where are your benchmarks? Mine are starting to roll into the forums as we speak.

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 3 years ago

            So…. was the GTX 1080 worth the money?

            • chuckula
            • 3 years ago

            100% worth every dime, and there’s nothing that Polaris can possibly do to change that since I could have gotten R9-390 performance levels a long time ago.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            You’re supposed to compare 1080 to Vega, not Polaris 10!

            Polaris 10 is a mid to low range budget part meant to offer more performance in that price range and AMD has been saying it would be so since at least March of this year. So your put down of Polaris 10 is at best ridiculously off base.

            Yeah waiting until the end of the year or early next for Vega sucks but if you’re goal is to get the best value for your money you gotta play the waiting game so you can’t really say that a 1080 is “100% worth it” either really.

            • chuckula
            • 3 years ago

            [quote<]You're supposed to compare 1080 to Vega, not Polaris 10![/quote<] And next year when Vega finally launches you can. Incidentally, at least the big version of Vega with HBM 2 memory had better freakin' beat the GTX-1080 or else AMD has some serious explaining to do. As for the rumors about Vega launching in October... don't bother for at least two reasons: 1. Polaris was proudly shown off in January. And you can't buy one until next week. Do the math on the timeline for the completely non-existent public demonstrations of Vega until it launches. 2. Raj just did a twitter bomb about visiting Shanghai to congratulate the design team for Vega on some milestone or another. Assume that's Vega's initial tapeout. Given how things work in the real world, you *might* be able to get Vega next March/April commercially. Might. It might not even be until next June more realistically though.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            So you still think your comparing 1080 to Polaris10 is legit or what?

            The rest of your post reads like it was written by Nvidia’s PR to sow FUD or something.

            Demo dates are no indicator of launch dates and time from tapeout to production is typically 3-6 months, not nearly a year. In the end we’re only looking a 2 month difference from the rumored date of Oct. 2016 and AMD’s original date of Jan. 2017.

            • chuckula
            • 3 years ago

            [quote<]So you still think your comparing 1080 to Polaris10 is legit or what?[/quote<] You should really stop being a fanboy and think about how if you hadn't made that d-bag disingenuous comment I would never have called you out below. Sure it's [b<]TOTALLY UNFAIR[/b<] to compare Polaris 10 to the GTX-1080. So let's not do it. Oh but you wanted me to compare the GTX-1080 to the next Unicorn from AMD? Well tell ya what, go post your own personal scores from your own Vega card in the forums this week. Otherwise, stop wasting my time about products that AMD hasn't even publicly demonstrated yet, much less gotten anywhere near releasing. Let's focus on AMD's products that are on sale [b<]RIGHT NOW[/b<] and not be unfair by throwing Polaris into the mix. Let's be "fair" and compare the $650* GTX-1080 to the $650 R9 Fury-X. Remember that card? Remember how HBM was totally a requirement for anything above 1080p resolutions? So let's do our point-by-point comparison: Price: GTX-1080 wins simply because $650 at launch in 2016 money is cheaper than $650 at launch in 2015 money. Oh, and the price cuts that AMD should have done months ago? Haven't happened yet. Actual Performance: TR's review will confirm this, but the GTX-1080 is a massively bigger leap in performance over the Fury-X than the Fury-X was over the Rebrandeon 390 series. Price/Performance: Sorry. [See, the funny part was that with Polaris you could have tried for the usual BUT CHEAPER!! party line. You just shot yourself right in the foot by making sure that I did *not* include Polaris in this comparison. Good job.] Power consumption: BUT NOBODY CARES ABOUT POWER CONSUMPTION!! Fine, it doesn't matter. It also won't matter when Polaris finally launches. If Polaris ties an R9-390 selling at the same price and the big "advantage" is Polaris's power consumption, then that power consumption "win" just went to zero value. Driver Quality: I'll let the Phoronix review speak for itself: [url<]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-gtx-1070&num=1[/url<] * Oh, but but but some models of the GTX-1080 are $700 Unfair whaa!! you say? Bite me, some models are already becoming availble at $600, and the one I own was only $650. Incidentally, all the harping about "unfair" prices on the GTX-1080 at launch are coming back to bite you when it turns out that the $199 number Raj was spewing on stage turns out to be the lie that it was and the real price is nowhere near as nice.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            Hahah you’re acting like a kid who got busted with his hand in the cookie jar and now EVERYTHING IS UNFAAAAIIRRR WHHHHAAAA!

            Nothin’ fanboish about pointing out terrible a comparison you were making at all. And I see you’ve totally abandoned the points you were trying to make in the previous post, probably cuz’ they’re wrong, to goal post shift + rant on about a whole bunch of other stuff.

            • DoomGuy64
            • 3 years ago

            Huh, cegras was right. Go figure.

            • anotherengineer
            • 3 years ago

            You forgot to say *on linux* πŸ˜‰

            • chuckula
            • 3 years ago

            That need not be said!

            • Beelzebubba9
            • 3 years ago

            I was planning on getting a GTX 1080, but since my gaming monitor is only 1080p, it seems like Polaris is a much better investment to replace my GTX 660 Ti as a hold over until Big Pascal or Vega hits?

            The only reason I feel like it makes sense to wait in my case is because the 1080 still isn’t quite fast enough to play demanding games at 4K so it makes sense to wait a bit on both the GPU and the HiDPI display. Thoughts?

            • tsk
            • 3 years ago

            Get the 1080ti when it launches and a 4k monitor with it.

            • mcarson09
            • 3 years ago

            What no 8k?

          • Bensam123
          • 3 years ago

          Chuckula does love a good strawman.

        • sophisticles
        • 3 years ago

        Cue jackass that purposely misinterprets what is actually said.

      • odizzido
      • 3 years ago

      Assuming they ever got a 1080 I imagine they’re just going to put them in a single review now.

        • chuckula
        • 3 years ago

        They have a couple at least.

        • Farting Bob
        • 3 years ago

        But they are completely different ends of the market. Would be like reviewing a Ferrari at the same time as a Dacia.

      • dodozoid
      • 3 years ago

      I bet it will be it the same article… there is not much additional work in doing multiple cards review as you have to get some reference data from competing cards anyway

      • NoOne ButMe
      • 3 years ago

      It’s almost like when a company gives a site a card on time with everyone else things work better!

      I think TR is holding to do some rolling reviews… 28th 1080, 29th 480 and 30th 1070. Or 27/28/29.

      • Krogoth
      • 3 years ago

      It is more like there will be a massive smack-down between the 1080, 1070 and 480. πŸ˜‰

        • DrCR
        • 3 years ago

        That does sound impressive.

        • mesyn191
        • 3 years ago

        But there shouldn’t be. Not between the 1080/70 vs the 480.

        They’re priced and targeted at very different price points and markets. The 1080/70 being high end and the 480 being mid range.

        There have been rumors that its not too hard to overclock a 480 to nearly stock 1070 levels of performance but that is just a rumor right now and still wouldn’t be a good comparison. If you’re going to overclock you should compare overclocked part to overclocked part to keep it a even comparison.

          • sirsoffrito
          • 3 years ago

          I thought that was the point of those nifty value charts that Techreport often does where it graphs performance/$.

          For example, I’m sitting on an aging GTX 680 ti and the fiance has a now venerable GTX 560. I’m looking forward to upgrading soon, but the reality is I don’t have the cash to get a $700 graphics card at the moment. So, the possibility of a card at only a third of the price with over half of the performance knocks the value out of the park. I don’t need bleeding edge, just something that runs well enough on the game’s we like to play.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            But he isn’t talking about just the value charts TR does. He is talking about a review where the 1080/70 are compared vs the 480. Which is nonsensical for reasons already given.

            Your scenario doesn’t do anything to support a 1080/70 vs 480 review either.

            • sirsoffrito
            • 3 years ago

            I have one question. Why not?

            My “scenario” is simply a direct comparison of different graphics cards, and an evaluation of their performance per dollar. I, in all honesty, don’t care if the cards are overclocked or not, so long as the comparison is valid.

            Really though, I’d like to see cards compared at stock, factory overclocked, and overclocked at home. That’s a lot of work to do however, so I understand if TR can’t do all that. So, why is it that the GTX 1080 and RX 480 shouldn’t be compared? Are you arguing that they shouldn’t be reviewed in their context at all? Why not exactly? They are both the latest and greatest cards from their respective companies. Why not put them head to head and see how they stack when compared to one another? What is the problem with comparing them? Having that information is useful as it will give buyers more information for when they purchase a new card, which is the point of reviews, right?

            To conclude, if they are NOT compared, then how is TR going to make those nifty value charts I’ve already talked about?

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            Mid-range budget parts vs high end expensive parts = apples vs oranges.

            Which was essentially what I’d said in the post you first replied to.

            If you can’t understand why comparing a mid range part to a high end one is a fundamentally flawed comparison then you must be the sort of person who compares a Toyota Camry to a Porsche Cayman and then is shocked when the Porsche Cayman turns out to be the much better but also much more expensive car.

            And TR already slaps lots of different cards on its value charts independently of which card its reviewing so your needs will be met anyways without a 480 vs 1080/70 review.

            • sirsoffrito
            • 3 years ago

            I in no way, shape, or form disagreed that they were different parts designed for different markets. If anything I agreed with that. I still assert that is the purpose of a value comparison.

            What I don’t understand is why it is a fundamentally flawed comparison. A Camry and a Porsche ARE different vehicles. People drive them for different use cases. Should there be no reviews of a Camry simply because it is a less expensive car? Of course no one will be shocked that a Porsche would win. What point are you driving at here? The analogy is far from perfect though. For one, there are far many more brands and models of cars on the market than there are graphics cards. Additionally, it is easy to claim that a Porsche is truly an unnecessary expense given laws about speed limits. A top end graphics card, on the other hand, might be *necessary* to drive a high resolution display at decent frame rates. The extra speed of the product, in the case of the graphics card, is not wasted.

            Reviews that discuss each of the cards strengths and where they sit in the market is not completely out of the question. I was not arguing that a 480/1080 combined review is necessary. Why however would their value be such a terrible thing to discuss their respective reviews? If anything, given the relative proximity of their releases, it makes sense to do so.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            You’re heavily misreading my posts to say the least. Respond only what I’ve said, not what you think I said.

            For instance I’ve said nothing about not reviewing the RX480 or 1080/70, only that a review that compares that isn’t sensible since it’d be apples vs oranges.

            I can only assume that given the way you’ve fumbled my Camry vs Cayman car analogy into a terrible mess of off topic nonsense that you don’t even know or understand what or why apples vs oranges comparison is flawed. I sincerely suggest you google it and maybe read up on it for a hour or 2 since my attempt to explain it to you was completely misunderstood by you.

            If you can’t or won’t do that then fine but don’t bother replying since apples vs oranges is about as simple of a logical fallacy as you can get and if you can’t or won’t figure it out on your own I don’t see much reason in further trying to explain it to you.

            • sirsoffrito
            • 3 years ago

            I think I’ve been more than reasonable. I’ve read the posts rationally and responded with reason.

            Instead you attack my intelligence, present me with a false choice, and convey an emotional argument rather than a rational one.

            If you wish to be intractable, not to mention rude, in your response, then this is no longer a discussion.

            [url<]http://twentytwowords.com/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/[/url<]

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            If you think you’ve been reasonable and rational yet A)fail to understand the application of simple logical fallacies, B)continuously misread stuff I posted, and C)grossly misunderstand and/or extrapolate simple analogies into a hash of off topic stuff then what you think is incorrect and/or your rationality isn’t as good as you might believe it is.

            No false choices have been presented to you and anyone making the mistakes you keep making in reply to my simple and concise posts is going to get a bit irritated. Maybe you shouldn’t post if you can’t deal with that.

          • chuckula
          • 3 years ago

          So in the first sentence you say there should be no comparison between Polaris and the existing GTX-1080/1070. After all, reviews have to be fair and all.

          Then in literally the same post you claim the Rx 480 easily overclocks to match the GTX-1070.

          Like having things both ways don’t we.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            Nope. I said there are rumors the 480 overclocks to nearly stock 1070 performance but that its just a rumor at this point AND that such a comparison wouldn’t make sense because you’d be comparing OC’d vs stock when you should be comparing OC’d to OC’d..

            Your reading comprehension is terrible.

      • tipoo
      • 3 years ago

      As of this minute, nyyope πŸ˜›

      • stefem
      • 3 years ago

      Well, we can still wait for the GTX 1070 one πŸ™‚

    • Anovoca
    • 3 years ago

    did the say specifically the card couldn’t be under power/load when photographed?

      • EndlessWaves
      • 3 years ago

      An IR camera counts as photographs, right?

        • Anovoca
        • 3 years ago

        I am pretty sure. They also never said that a db meter couldn’t be photographed in the vicinity.

          • yogibbear
          • 3 years ago

          Woops I dropped the card and it fell into a PCIe slot.

            • Prestige Worldwide
            • 3 years ago

            Woops my PC booted and ran our entire benchmark suite and published them online

            • cygnus1
            • 3 years ago

            Woops, our lawyers filed a lawsuit!

            • Beahmont
            • 3 years ago

            AMD: Woops, our lawyers filed a lawsuit.

            TR’s Lawyers: Woops, you’re screwed.

      • Wirko
      • 3 years ago

      An endoscope counts as a camera, right?

    • Srsly_Bro
    • 3 years ago

    I should also add….

    THANKS SCOTT WASSON!

    (This post is worth avg of 140 upvotes on TR)

      • sweatshopking
      • 3 years ago

      I downvoted you just because.

        • Srsly_Bro
        • 3 years ago

        I can always count on you to be there for me <3

      • Kretschmer
      • 3 years ago

      It’s dead, Jim.

        • Srsly_Bro
        • 3 years ago

        IRRELEVANT

      • Wirko
      • 3 years ago

      Careful, bro! You’re moving in the wrong direction! +140 is over there, behind your back!

    • chΒ΅ck
    • 3 years ago

    When is the NDA lifted?

      • Captain Ned
      • 3 years ago

      Sometime on June 29.

        • nanoflower
        • 3 years ago

        Not that it’s stopping people from taking the card apart and posting pics or running lots of benchmarks. One vendor out of New Zealand has posted a number of vids showing the RX 480 game play performance. Sadly they are using an I5 6400 so the performance is held back a bit by the CPU.

          • chuckula
          • 3 years ago

          [quote<]Sadly they are using an I5 6400 so the performance is held back a bit by the CPU.[/quote<] Considering the "OMG PRICE" aspect of this launch, I don't think an I5 6400 should be considered a sticking point that's "holding back" these cards in any meaningful way. Even if they were being benchmarked with an i3 (like the i3 6100 from TR's latest guide) I think it would be considered quite reasonable for the target market here. Which also brings up the question of how realistic it was for AMD to put on the one and only public demo of the Rx 480 using an i7-5930K on an X99 board, but that's another discussion.

            • Welch
            • 3 years ago

            While I agree with your sentiments… of course the reason you test with the higher end CPUs is to show what the graphics cards themselves are capable on an even playing field with one another. To do it any other way would give you a skewed view on performance if for instance the 1080 was reviewed with an i7 and the 480 with an i3.

            • anotherengineer
            • 3 years ago

            Iff I get one I will run some benches with my 6850 then with it so we can see how they perform with the same cpu……………..an old amd 955BE πŸ˜‰

            • BurntMyBacon
            • 3 years ago

            Please get one. πŸ™‚ A paring with an old AMD 955BE would be of great interest to me. If possible, run benchmarks at both stock (3.2GHz) and overclocked at say 4GHz (mine does 4.2GHz without changing voltage).

            • anotherengineer
            • 3 years ago

            Budget is tight right now, might be able to afford a 4GB RX470 iff they end up at the actual $150 US price that has been going around the internet. Will cost me a lot more up here in CND.

            Don’t have much games installed and don’t play much games either. I ran the old CSS stress test today and my 6850 pushes 313fps on average lol (1080p most settings maxed). One nice thing about the source engine, console -> fps_max 900 done and done. CSGO weapons range was 90-150 fps avg.

            If there are any easy free benchmarks/stress tests let me know, I can see what I can do if I take the plunge.

            • kuttan
            • 3 years ago

            Since the RX 480 performance is rumored to be equal to or greater than R9 390X, GTX 980 your Phenom II 955 BE likely to be a bottleneck for the full experience out of the card. I recommend you to upgrade the CPU.

            • RAGEPRO
            • 3 years ago

            Ironically I think the Core i3-6100 might do better than a Core i5-6400, as the 6400’s clock rate (even under Boost) is quite low. πŸ™‚

          • ImSpartacus
          • 3 years ago

          I’d love to see a proper analysis of the effect of the cpu on modern gaming loads.

          If for no other reason than to investigate whether it makes sense to do a build with a 480 based around a speedy i3 or something like that.

    • DancinJack
    • 3 years ago

    Pretty ugly IMO

      • Aranarth
      • 3 years ago

      Does it matter if you put in a case and never look at it again?

        • DancinJack
        • 3 years ago

        I’m sure some people look at it that way. I honestly don’t care that much what my graphics card looks like. Having said that, I still think this design is pretty ugly. I don’t think that’s a crime.

          • nanoflower
          • 3 years ago

          It is a reference card so it’s intended to show the GPU works. They leave it to the AIBs to develop custom cooling solutions and spend $$$ on looks.

            • DancinJack
            • 3 years ago

            And an actual legitimate cooling solution?

            • raddude9
            • 3 years ago

            Any evidence to prove that the included solution is not legitimate? Just an idea, but maybe you should wait for the reviews.

            • DancinJack
            • 3 years ago

            There was that teardown that showed the tiny size and makeup of the heatsink and fan devices. I’m sure it works, it’s just really weak and puny. Then again, I guess being facetious on TR nets you -6 downvotes in a few minutes. /shrug

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            How it looks to you and how it actually performs are 2 different things.

            There have been plenty of leaks about how hot it gets while gaming too so your insinuation that the cooling system it has is a joke is doubly foolish which is probably a big part of the reason for your down votes.

        • USAFTW
        • 3 years ago

        My previous opinion about the issue is a matter of public record.

        • DPete27
        • 3 years ago

        Uhh…yah… Even if nobody else sees it, I know it’s in there.

          • Waco
          • 3 years ago

          So? Does the knowledge it’s there change its performance? Utility? Etc?

          I’d rather save $20 than waste it on aesthetics.

            • DancinJack
            • 3 years ago

            Which is exactly why I said IMO, because some people prefer it to look good and are OK with spending 20 dollars.

            • mesyn191
            • 3 years ago

            But many others aren’t. And the RX480 is supposed to be a budget part for those with relatively little to spend so the extra $20 or so (I have no real idea what it costs for “nice” aesthetics but that was the number that is being tossed around so I’m just rolling with it here) is significant.

            • DPete27
            • 3 years ago

            Usually the extra cost gets you improved cooling performance also, not just aesthetics (which is subjective, so I suppose you could also get an uglier card that cools better than the reference design for an extra $20…)

            • Waco
            • 3 years ago

            Perhaps, but I was assuming the included cooler, even if “ugly”, is adequate. That word means different things to different people. πŸ™‚

            • rechicero
            • 3 years ago

            I’m not really sure of that. Almost everybody test the cards in open benches, but in real life, they are inside cases and then I always wonder if it would be better just to get the hot air out. And with things like NVMe in the case, I’m not talking only about cooling the GPU.

          • USAFTW
          • 3 years ago

          As long as it’s big enough, it doesn’t matter if it’s black or white. Rite?

        • Vaughn
        • 3 years ago

        So you never open up your PC ever to clean it or using compressed air???

        You should be doing that once every 3-6 months.

        I’ve never went more than a few months without going into my case to clean the dust.

      • Chrispy_
      • 3 years ago

      Most cards are ugly when you see the back of them.

      It’s either raw PCB like this, or it’s a rather unexciting backplate. If you want to see the interesting side of your GPU you need to own an upside-down case like the Corsair 600Q, and there are several reasons why those aren’t popular.

        • DancinJack
        • 3 years ago

        Nothing to do with that. I think the shroud and its aesthetics are ugly. Just not my style.

          • DoomGuy64
          • 3 years ago

          Far superior to the batman coolers. Has a nice professional tone, and is fairly similar looking to some of the kepler cards. Nobody ever said those were ugly, so I’m thinking this is more a reaction to the “RADEON” logo than actual style.

            • Chrispy_
            • 3 years ago

            I wish more coolers looked like this. the Nvidia Titan coolers I have at home are gorgeous, without any batarang shrouds, tattoos or RGB robot-samurai-dragon-mecha-schoolgirl decals.

            I’m a little annoyed that the Geforce GTX logos on mine are backlit but at least I can turn them off.

            • DancinJack
            • 3 years ago

            No, because aesthetics are subjective. Don’t go all Radeon fanboi on me because I don’t like the way a particular graphics card looks.

            BTW, there were PLENTY of people that said the new Nvidia shrouds were ugly. Would you like me to link you to the comments on this site?

            • rxc6
            • 3 years ago

            I believe that this one is a better example for comparison: [url<]https://techreport.com/news/30282/asus-focuses-on-value-with-its-turbo-gtx-1080.[/url<] Similar design and people there are praising the understated design.

            • DancinJack
            • 3 years ago

            FWIW, I don’t think that one is particularly good looking either.

      • ronch
      • 3 years ago

      Not very pretty or as pretty as Nvidia’s classy Tesla cards, but certainly nowhere near as bad as those cards from Taiwan, with their overbearing coolers that scream “Unreal II”.

      • Umbral
      • 3 years ago

      Even through the window all I can see is the back, so… stick a backplate on it and I’m a happy camper.

      • rechicero
      • 3 years ago

      As long as it’s silent enough and cool enough, I couldn’t care less about the looks. Shrouds and coolers in general have a job, and that job is NOT looking good, as 95% of the ppl won’t use a windowed case.

        • Chrispy_
        • 3 years ago

        +1 for correct use of “couldn’t care less”.

          • dodozoid
          • 3 years ago

          +3 my fellow grammar natzi

            • DrDominodog51
            • 3 years ago

            I feel sorry for you grammar nazis when you read my posts.

            • DrCR
            • 3 years ago

            I could care less

            [super<][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc<]... which means I do care... at least a little....[/url<][/super<]

      • slowriot
      • 3 years ago

      Crazy you get such negative responses to simply wishing it looked better. It is ugly, it may not matter to most people, but goodness why is it such a sin here to want components that look good? I don’t mean it should be stamped with glowing dragons, but something tasteful and professional would be awesome.

        • Chrispy_
        • 3 years ago

        It’s not crazy; His opinion is just unpopular – hence the downvotes.

        I believe the popular opinion is that people think this rare display of restrained minimalism is far more attractive than the busy clash of themes/shapes/colours that most vendors flood the market with.

        Quite honestly, if he wants to buy a fugly (IMO) card there will be plenty to choose from in time, have no doubt about that!

          • slowriot
          • 3 years ago

          A lot of the responses here are “Why do you care how it looks?” not “I think it looks good.” So I find your explanation of the down votes and your comments about popular perception of the card hollow.

          You conflate his statement that this card is ugly with the opinion that other cards are not ugly. At least for me, I believe both this RX 480 is ugly and the vast majority of cards on the market are ugly. We have either two choices. The lack of design as seen in this RX 480 and then awful design as seen with huge logos, tribal tattoos on video cards, or dragons, or the like. None of this good, attractive design.

          Talking design on TR is like talking to a brick wall. You can’t even talk about RGB LED options here without people assuming you must want your entire case flashing in rainbow colors. It’s like no middle ground between “nothing” and “over the top gaudy” exists here. But heck, its just representative of the entire market. You can’t buy a GPU without it being a black box or stamped with a red glowing dragon anymore. Even Nvidia went over the top angular on their reference design when it was once upon a tasteful option.

            • Chrispy_
            • 3 years ago

            [quote<]You conflate his statement that this card is ugly with the opinion that other cards are not ugly[/quote<] Yes, because a busy design and a minimalist design are opposite ends of the same scale. I would like it to have even fewer aesthetic additions that the few it already has. [url=http://i.imgur.com/gDCzM4T.png<]Here's an old 6800GT I keep around because it looks cool[/url<]; 100% functional, 0% aesthetic fluff, and it looks better for it IMO. Still, the RX480 reference design has about the highest function-to-fluff ratio in a while, so anyone calling it ugly is basically overly picky and satisfied by NOTHING on the market, or favours the other The key thing here is "IMO". Nobody is right or wrong when dealing with opinions. Your opinion may make you look stupid if it is factually wrong, or it may make you look pedantic if it is unpopularly correct, but everyone is entitled to their own and dealing with that is just part of [i<]Life On The Internet[/i<].

            • slowriot
            • 3 years ago

            You don’t think of design on a linear scale, even if you don’t realize it.

            The 6800GT is a perfect example. The clear shroud was CHOSEN FOR A REASON AND ITS LOOKS, NOT FUNCTION. That card is a precise example of two “minimal” designs having dramatically different aesthetic beauty. They could have put a black cover instead of a clear one and the card would have looked worse/less interesting.

            And that’s the thing. I think most people would think the RX 480 “naked” or with a clear shroud would look better than being a black box with a cheap looking RADEON on it. You conflated him calling it ugly with a desire to make it busier, when it could be just the opposite.

            • Chrispy_
            • 3 years ago

            Wow, you’re being [i<]a bit special[/i<] this evening aren't you! 1) Claiming you know how I (an internet anon) thinks is eyerollingly presumptuous. 2) No, that 6800GT is a Dell model from a windowless case. The clear cover is so that a technician can visually check if the GPU cooler is clogged with dust when diagnosing problems.

            • rechicero
            • 3 years ago

            IMO, design is something you want for the case. Hell, I even love some steampunk case mods. But for the internals… almost nobody should care: they are going to see the component very few times. I’d say the message is: not so bad, not so important. Thats the thing.

            • caconym
            • 3 years ago

            I kinda miss when Abit would happily sell you a brown motherboard.

        • NeelyCam
        • 3 years ago

        And I want the compressor in my fridge painted. Otherwise it’s just too fugly.

          • anotherengineer
          • 3 years ago

          Remember to use high heat paint!!

          • Froz
          • 3 years ago

          And it needs some RGB LEDs.

      • Kaleid
      • 3 years ago

      Well, don’t stand in front of the mirror then

      • davidbowser
      • 3 years ago

      Not enough LEDs?

      • Krogoth
      • 3 years ago

      Video cards haven’t won any beauty contest in decades.

      • BurntMyBacon
      • 3 years ago

      [quote<]Pretty ugly IMO[/quote<] I agree. No visible Heatpipes. No visible Vapor Chamber. No oversized fan. Ugly as sin. Wait. That's not what you were talking about, was it. Well, you are entitled to your opinion. I personally find that well engineered structures, distribution systems, cooling solutions, etc. look beautiful to me. Guess I'll need to wait for the tear down to find out if this one is beautiful on the inside.

    • YukaKun
    • 3 years ago

    I will take it then you guys received a testing unit. That is great news.

    Looking forward to your review πŸ™‚

    Cheers!

    • Srsly_Bro
    • 3 years ago

    I WILL BE THE FIRSSTTTTTT ONE IN LINE FOR THIS!

      • sweatshopking
      • 3 years ago

      IS THIS MY POST???? IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS

        • Srsly_Bro
        • 3 years ago

        CONGRATS ON FIRST POST!!!!!

          • sweatshopking
          • 3 years ago

          Hahah im killing you on upvotes on this page.

            • Srsly_Bro
            • 3 years ago

            And I have the most downvotes. Where you at?

            • sweatshopking
            • 3 years ago

            Lilongwe, malawi. Back in Canada on july 29th. Then driving to vancouver island and back to nova scotia in august. Then idkwtf.

            • Srsly_Bro
            • 3 years ago

            Skype has been quiet. I was concerned!

            • anotherengineer
            • 3 years ago

            Holy crap that’s a lot of driving!!!!!!!! Like 1 week easy each way!!!

            Drive through Timmins, we will make our own uber TR CND BBQ.

            You can stop in Saskatoon and Deanjo can show your kids what a farm and farmer look like and stuff. Maybe get a ride on the combine πŸ˜‰

            • sweatshopking
            • 3 years ago

            I used to live in sask. It wasn’t my favorite place. Id like to see deanjo though, and you if possible.love to see all the tr guys I could.

            • anotherengineer
            • 3 years ago

            You would have to bring him a windows phone as a gift πŸ˜€

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