Poll: Did you take Microsoft up on a free Windows 10 upgrade?

Microsoft's free update offer for Windows 10 expired this past Friday. Most of the TR staff took that offer almost as soon as it became available, and we've long recommended buying or upgrading to Windows 10 with a new PC in our System Guides. Despite the fact that most everyone we know has had a frustration-free experience with Microsoft's latest OS, a vocal user base has been holding out in the year since Windows 10 became available.

Some folks were concerned about the amount of phoning home Windows 10 performs, even if it's possible to turn most of its telemetry features off (and if we discount the fact that it's almost impossible to browse the web these days without accumulating a number of tracking cookies to begin with). Other folks might have preferred the warm, familiar blanket of Windows 7's user interface, although my 87-year-old grandfather is getting on just fine with the move from 7 to 10. We suppose it's also possible that some folks' PCs just weren't up to the task of running Windows 10.

Now that the free upgrade offer has expired, we're curious what the state of the Windows install base on TR readers' PCs is. Perhaps you succumbed to the siren song of free stuff, as we did. Maybe you built a new PC and had to buy Windows 10 outright. Perhaps you're sticking with Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, or you couldn't upgrade at all. Whatever the case may be, tell us about your decision using the poll below.

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    • Vrock
    • 3 years ago

    Lol, 5% of people are crazy.

    • mcarson09
    • 3 years ago

    I’m still letting the Gerbils beta test windows 10 for me. Well also the fact the that there’s no directx 12 only games that I have to play. Ashes of the singularity runs well on windows 8.1. I wanted to play Quantum Break, but too many reported problems with the game and oh yeah windows store! (Yuck) if it was on steam I’d buy it.

    • Brainsan
    • 3 years ago

    Can I choose “Most of the above”? Most of the stuff in the house got upgraded, but the computers that run the TVs are still on 7 for Windows Media Center. Though I recently came across the hack to get it running on 10. Oh well.

    At work I’ve got around 500 computers that are a mix of XP and 7, with a tiny bit of 8, and 10 starting to get a toe hold. They’re on an isolated network, so that mitigates some of the XP concerns, but the OS is largely driven by the manufacturing environment requirements. Many of them are triple or quad boot systems, just to make it more interesting.

    • ET3D
    • 3 years ago

    Upgraded 1 tablet (from 8.1), 2 laptops (from 8.1, 7; the second I ended up installing 10 from scratch, had problems with the AMD driver for the E-350 and wanted to switch to an SSD anyway), one desktop (from 7; but I don’t use this PC). Upgraded and reverted the HTPC twice (once because of nForce drivers, second time because of some problems with Hauppauge Capture and Windows Media Player). Also tried for fun on the Fujistu P1510D. Wasn’t fun. πŸ™‚

    • Kaleid
    • 3 years ago

    Have two SSDs, on one Win7 stays (disabled all win10 upgrade crap with third party app) and on the second Win10 is installed.

    • Lans
    • 3 years ago

    There isn’t a “yes but I plan to uninstall” etc option. I grabbed it on last day to maybe not have to pay for next version of Windows but plan on slapping back my Windows 7 image in short order.

      • mcarson09
      • 3 years ago

      But directx 12 will trap you!

    • rudimentary_lathe
    • 3 years ago

    I bought a copy for my new system. The only reason was for DX12 support. As a nice side benefit, I like how cheap the retail version was, meaning I won’t need another copy during my next upgrade cycle or two.

    I despise all the spyware, and I’ve turned off as much as I can. I also despise the lack of control over Windows Update. If I used Windows for any real work, I would have stuck with Windows 7. But I dual boot my desktop and use my laptop for more important stuff.

    • cldmstrsn
    • 3 years ago

    I definitely did over a year ago when it first came out. Im not a whiny asshole like most people seem to be about it. Literally never had one problem with it.

    • TardOnPC
    • 3 years ago

    Only upgraded for DX12 gaming. If Vulcan or something else becomes a major thing I would gladly ditch Windows.

    • wtburnette67
    • 3 years ago

    Stuck with Windows 7, thank you very much. I had used the preview version of 10 and didn’t care for it. Also upgraded my wife’s system to 10 last month and didn’t like it any better. The only thing I need Windows for is gaming and I’m doing less and less of that. I use Linux Mint on my laptop and unless something changes, I’ll be moving to Linux on my main rig when support for Win7 ends in 2020.

    • Ifalna
    • 3 years ago

    Working with Win10 since it’s official release and after Creative making a proper driver, everything works just fine.

    • TwoEars
    • 3 years ago

    Both my personal computers are Win10 now, but at work everything is Win7 64 Pro.. and will be for quite some time I expect.

    • faramir
    • 3 years ago

    Where is the “I used Clonezilla to back up my Win7 install, upgraded to Win10, made sure Win10 is activated so I have my digital entitlement and then reverted back to Win7” option?

      • BurntMyBacon
      • 3 years ago

      I know several people who did this.
      Two more I’ve run across:
      “I upgraded all of my Win8/Win8.1 platforms, but I left my Win7 installations where they are.”
      “I upgraded to Win10, but retained a Win7 license for dual boot. Win10 for DX12 games only.”

      I personally have done all three. I upgraded all my Win8.1 installs, upgraded my Win7 installs for the digital entitlement and cloned to a backup, and retained a Win7 license that I’m now using in a triple boot a system to Ubuntu w/Cinnamon UI (Electrical Circuit Design, Coding, and Encoding), Win7 (Daily Driver), and Win10 (DX12 games).

    • Arclight
    • 3 years ago

    If Windows 8 and 10 did something was to make a multi polar OS world, it’s no longer just Windows. Personally I’ve tried a couple of Linux distros and for internet browsing they are more than fine, they’re great and while they have their own quirks, I eventually adapted. For all those who use computers for internet browsing or using Office type programs, it’s definetely time to think about migrating to Linux, not only is it free but just as functional. For gaming, the best ones as well as legacy ones still remain Windows only and here the options are more limited, though dual booting is still an option where the gaming partition is used only for that activity.

    • djand
    • 3 years ago

    I upgraded my quad core, 8 thread laptop. It ran fine for about three weeks and then blue screened while updating the nvidia geforce experience app. After reset, no boot. Booting from the usb media I made, it can’t repair the broken boot files. I’ve been using my chromebook and phone and doing fine. I haven’t decided to restore my win7 backup or wipe and restore virgin win7. Don’t know if win10 will still be available for free or not. I’m not terribly impressed.

    • jackbomb
    • 3 years ago

    Nope. Windows 7 until 2020.
    It’s stable, fast, makes sense, and it never gets in the way.
    That’s all I have to say about that.

    • evilpaul
    • 3 years ago

    I’ve been happily running the Win10 Insider Preview Builds for about a year now.

    • setbit
    • 3 years ago

    I eventually upgraded all my systems to Win 10, [i<][b<]including my HTPC running Win 7 Windows Media Center[/b<][/i<], and I'm really glad I did. I waited until about 2 days before the July 29th deadline to upgrade the Media Center system. Even with the Netflix integration broken, I love the Media Center DVR and was not willing to give it up. However, if you do an internet search for "Media Center Windows 10" you will find a number of people who have hacked the Media Center binaries to run under Windows 10. I downloaded one of the less sketchy looking of these, then did the following: [list<] [*<]Performed the Windows 10 in-place upgrade [/*<][*<]Made sure that the new Win 10 installation had installed the free DVD app, which my system was eligible for [/*<][*<]Installed the hacked Media Center [/*<] [/list<] When I ran Media Center, not only did it work, but it auto-detected the previous configuration from Win 7, including my dual tuner setup, my location and programming schedule settings, the series I'm currently recording, my existing recorded programs on the disk, even the placeholders for where I left off watching each individual program! DVDs play in Media Center with no need to use the external app. In short, everything works in Win 10 exactly as it did in Win 7, perfectly, with no customization or manual transfer of settings required. I was -- and still am -- stunned. Windows doesn't usually work this well when I'm using [i<]supported[/i<] features, much less an unsupported hack. The only thing I can figure is that someone with inside access at Microsoft is responsible for this unofficial Media Center Win 10 port, as a gesture to loyal users.

    • Goofus Maximus
    • 3 years ago

    Here’s a joke for you. All along, I said I was going to let everyone else take the plunge, and only upgrade to Windows 10 after I was sure the startup bugs were squashed.

    Instead, on the very day of the launch, I got the “want to upgrade now”, and like an idiot, I said “SURE!” So I’ve been tending ten since it first RTM’d… It’s been MOSTLY pain-free. Mostly.

    • albundy
    • 3 years ago

    I thought the black sails version was organic and GMO-Gluten free?

    • Leader952
    • 3 years ago

    I took advantage of 20 free Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrades:

    on

    4 Dell T5400 Workstations
    7 Dell T5500 Workstations
    7 Dell T3500 Workstations
    2 Dell T7600 Workstations

    All but six had Windows 7 PRO COA’s on the cases and I did a clean install of Windows 10 Pro 64-bit using the COA’s without issue.

    I used three Windows 7 home COA’s that I had from decommissioned systems that I used on three Dell T3500 Workstations that had no COA’s. Windows 10 Home 64-bit is fine for these systems as they are only single CPU socket.

    I purchased three Windows 7 Pro COA’s ($10 each) for three of the Dell T5400 Workstations that only had Vista COA’s on them. Again they now are Windows 10 Pro 64-bit.

    I will keep two of the T5500’s and two T3500’s for my own use and the rest will be sold at a profit on eBay/Local Pickup.

    • Oriflamme
    • 3 years ago

    “Plan to stay on Windows 7”

    Good luck with that.

    • GatoRat
    • 3 years ago

    Windows 7 had been having issues, so I decided to give Windows 10 a try. It failed. Fortunately, if you want to put it that way, the failures with both made me look carefully into my hardware, specifically my hard drive. It seems that when I repartitioned my drive for dual boot, the new partition table ended up on an unreliable part of the drive.

    In the end I used this as an excuse to buy an SSD, which was extremely fortunate since within a day or so after it arrived, my Windows 7 install went completely south. I’d used Windows 8.1 at a previous job and liked it, so I played it safe and went with that.

    I tried the Windows 10 build from February at my new job and had zero problems so decided to go ahead an upgrade my Windows 8.1 install. It was seamless; probably the smoothest upgrade I’ve ever done. I do miss the tighter integration with OneDrive and find Cortana to be a complete waste of space and CPU cycles, but otherwise had only one issue–I had to reinstall the drivers for my Epson scanner. (Was also surprised that some of my software which was allegedly not Windows 10 compatible has run without a problem.)

    A final note; my Windows 10 install uses several gigabytes less disk space that Windows 8, which used less than Windows 7. (Honestly, I’m still one of the few who prefers 8.1, but I like both much more than 7.)

    (Everyone else I know moved to Windows 10 without an issue, including my oldest daughter who had inherited my youngest daughter’s dell laptop. The latter not only upgraded just fine, it now works better than it ever has been! I still may swap in an SSD, but it really did give new life to the older laptop.)

    • DarkMikaru
    • 3 years ago

    Like I tell people who want Microsoft Office vs OpenOffice / LibreOffice.. “$150+ or free?”. Same with this… “$100 dollars for Windows 10 or Free?” To me, it’s kind of a no brainer. Unless you have specific reasons to not save 100 bones… more power to you. I upgraded my Server, Deskstop, Laptop, Parents computers, clients, friends….. 100 vs Free is no contest.

    Only had one friend hold out and that’s because she says she can buy it later. Doesn’t want to live without her PC for a day. lol. Right..it’s either you sacrifice a day now and save 100 bucks or sacrifice a day and lose 100 bucks. Somehow.. I couldn’t make it through to her. Anyway… Loved this promotion and I feel sorry for people who may of wanted it and missed it.

    Now if we can only get Microsoft to lower the price to $50 for Home & $70 for Pro we’d be set!

    • anotherengineer
    • 3 years ago

    Passed. Autodesk said my version of CAD isn’t supported. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work, but a chance that I can’t take.

    Updated one PC though, passed on HTPC due to no drivers for tv tuner card. Should have updated laptops though, but was outa town and missed out.

      • Wrakkenruan
      • 3 years ago

      Use the magnifier any?

      [url<]https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade[/url<]

        • anotherengineer
        • 3 years ago

        Why yes, yes I do. All the time.

        Thanks

    • CampinCarl
    • 3 years ago

    Yes. Like others, however, my HTPC has stayed on Windows 7.

    I really wish someone would develop a software that is as good as WMC, with accurate TV guide functionality and cooperation with the cable companies, to replace it. I’d pay $50 for it.

      • Wrakkenruan
      • 3 years ago

      Same here, pretty much – upgraded everything but the main HTPC in the living room. I’m hoping some combination of Kodi and NextPVR might do enough for watching and recording other places in the house with our Silicon Dust HDHomeRun Prime. Kodi does well enough for watching live TV (it gets media info from the HDHRP) but I can’t figure NextPVR to get TV shows/schedule info to do recordings. Daughter (with a Lenovo laptop and Win 8.1) rolled back almost immediately – she hated the change (plus the Lenovo track pad driver got dropped in the upgrade and she didn’t want to try and fix it).

    • toki
    • 3 years ago

    I upgraded albiet a little begrudgingly at first due to all the telemetry and everyone being so up in arms inclubing myself. With that said I love the UI and the funcions on the new OS for my purposes. Where it goes in the future remains to be seen though. We shall see.

    • localhostrulez
    • 3 years ago

    I finally upgraded, despite the apps and aggressive upgrade tactics (I almost didn’t, because I didn’t want to reward that), for the sake of battery life on a newer laptop. On mom’s machine, I went with 10 mainly for support reasons (it’s a new computer, it’ll be in use for a while, and she doesn’t want to mess with it if it still works).

    I still maintain that auto-installing Candy Crush and Get Office is a tolerable con, not something desirable.

      • odizzido
      • 3 years ago

      I deleted those two things(and more) from the winapps directory. I am actually looking forward to MS putting them back on so I can fight the adware. Of course this is coming from someone who is still on 7, I just have a 10 drive for testing purposes.

        • ThatStupidCat
        • 3 years ago

        You deleted Candy Crush? Burn the heretic AND you’re off my list for people I can ask to send extra lives.

          • Goofus Maximus
          • 3 years ago

          I’m at level 130 in CC Soda Saga, I’m ashamed to say… I’d be even further, but I settle for nothing less than 3 stars before moving on…

    • Growler
    • 3 years ago

    I upgraded my main desktop and my Venue Pro from 8.1 to 10. I left my second desktop/htpc and laptop with 7.

    Windows 10’s UI is far and away better than 8’s, but 7 is still my favorite version of Windows. I’ll probably stick to it on those two devices until I’m unable to keep them working.

    • Blazex
    • 3 years ago

    yea, upgraded my tablet, and laptop early, then my desktop around a month ago, only issues were laptop display brightness buttons dont work now after a few months and desktop had a fast boot issue,

    whenever w10 itself had to cold boot, it would shut the system off after post before the loading screen, causing me to have to press power again to a normal boot. turned it off, boot got extended a few seconds but works fine now.

    was very much not the seemingly common issue with gigabyte 990fx ud3 boards during w7/w8 era… πŸ™‚

    only my atom dell tablet seems to have gotten through everything without accumulating some issue overall.

    • Chrispy_
    • 3 years ago

    So this poll is dividing the gerbils between those that don’t care about privacy and those that do.

    Assuming during install you slide all of the toggles to the left on all three pages, how bad is Windows 10 in terms of privacy invasion?

    I mean, I know it’s worse than 7, but is it any worse than Facebook, Google and your collection of cookies that I presume nobody is paranoid enough to actually disable? What information do we give away with Windows 10 that we don’t already give away elsewhere less begrudgingly?

    I’m in Europe, and the EU has a record of clamping down on privacy invasions far more than the US, so perhaps I’m naively trusting that if MS ever get too snoopy for their own good, the EU will fine the bejesus out of them and potentially enforce policy or ban sales of Windows outright until Microsoft comply. That’s why we have things like Windows N and K, amongst many other benefits.

    In the US, you may not realise what the legislative bureacrats of the EU do for you, but they’re fighting for everyone’s human rights; It’s just that they only have legal clout to act on it within the EU πŸ™

      • sweatshopking
      • 3 years ago

      France has already called windows 10 into an investigation. Ms collects far less than others, and generally has average or above average protection policies. It only matters because it is Microsoft. All these guys have android, twitter, Instagram, tinder, Facebook, etc. Just qq for the nerd cred.

        • DreadCthulhu
        • 3 years ago

        I really dislike this privacy strawman you keep pushing; in my experience the people who are concerned about MS’s information gathering are also concerned about other companies privacy issues. I for one, don’t have a Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Tinder account, and on my Android phone am very selective about what apps I use, and what privacy settings they seek. Plus a desktop OS has access to all of my files; my Android phone only has a subset of these, and any other service will be quite restricted in what I give it.

          • sweatshopking
          • 3 years ago

          [quote<] on my Android phone [/quote<] Stopped taking your privacy concerns seriously there. You worried Microsoft is going to steal your novel? Nobody cares about your files. It's all that data your android phone is collecting which you're allowing it. Where you are, who you call, what sites you browse, etc. I'm glad you dislike much of the privacy invasions. I don't like them either. I dislike people whining about one thing while condoning another far more intrusive.

            • meerkt
            • 3 years ago

            On phones you hardly have a choice, on desktop you do.

            Also, I try not to keep important stuff on the phone beyond the minimum necessary. I consider it an unsecure device by design.

          • maxxcool
          • 3 years ago

          Not to stir the nest, but he is right in that Google is by far 100% worse in terms of data collection regardless of device settings. Facebook is a very close second.

    • Aranarth
    • 3 years ago

    So far upgraded to windows 10:
    1 – q6600 with radeon 6870 using amd’s last beta driver.
    2 – 2x lenovo t420 laptops (core i5)
    3 – Dell inspiron 1525 (core2duo)
    4 – Compaq amd athlon ii 170u (soon to be athlon x4 with radeon 6850 using amd’s last beta driver.
    5 – Acer netbook – dual core pentium
    6 – my own core i7 with radeon 7870
    7 – Fujitsu pen laptop convertible to “tablet” and core i5?

    So that’s 8 machines total except for minor issues with the profiles being broken and having to reisntall windows 10 from scratch instead of as an upgrade the installs went fine. Only issues since then have been with windows updates sucking down all my internet bandwidth.

    I only have one hold-out running amd athlon x2 with radeon x1200 onboard that has no pci slots. Machine can never get beyond windows 7.

    • NovusBogus
    • 3 years ago

    I still miss XP, but W7 is decent enough–and supported for many years to come. 10 isn’t the total disaster that 8 was, but it does some creepy things and MS has done a poor job of explaining how this affects the pro/enterprise side where long-term OS stability is kind of a big deal.

    • soccergenius
    • 3 years ago

    I upgraded both mine and my sister’s PCs from Win7 Pro to Windows 10 and it was a mess; it took 2 days. I had held off until all parties involved (Microsoft, 3rd party vendors) got everything sorted.

    My computer’s issue was my USB wireless N adapter’s driver was incompatible with Windows 10. This caused the Windows 10 installer to incorrectly tell me the driver file was corrupt. I can only speculate that because my Windows 7 driver was more recent than the Windows 10 driver, the installer couldn’t overwrite it with the older-but-compatible driver. After some research I learned what the issue was and installed the new driver. After that, the upgrade could finish only to become unresponsive to input at the “Welcome to Windows 10” screen. Neither mouse or keyboard input would get “Next” to do anything, and repeated clicking would reboot the system. Turns out the USB adapter was still the problem, even with a compatible driver installed. Removing the adapter allowed me to finish the setup process.

    My sister’s computer was arguably worse. Owing to a messy SSD upgrade, she started with her main SSD and “storage” hard drive both with Windows 7 Pro (same product key, but the SSD was the correct boot drive). I had previously set it up to boot from the SSD and not prompt. Didn’t have any issues with it, until I tried to upgrade to Win 10. The installation would hang after the first restart with no errors shown or indication to me why. It was only after learning through my experience with my PC (disconnect everything non-essential, update USB wireless adapter drivers), that I was able to complete the installation.

    If I wasn’t as tech savvy (above average but lower than most readers here I bet) or persistent, I would have given up on my computer and just bought a new adapter, and probably completely given up on my sister’s. The only reason why I wasn’t that upset about it was because I expected it, which I think is pretty sad.

    • MOSFET
    • 3 years ago

    Yes to all available candidates on Windows 7, but not on my main Win8.1 PC.

    • adisor19
    • 3 years ago

    Missing the “No, I switched to OS X/macOS” option.

    Adi

      • DancinJack
      • 3 years ago

      he’s not wrong^

      • Jigar
      • 3 years ago

      After thought…

      • tipoo
      • 3 years ago

      Just update your frickin hardware Apple, more of my money could be yours. Best rMBP I could get today isn’t much of a GPU upgrade from my mid 2014 15″, and the CPU upgrade is even slimmer though that’s more on Intel than Apple.

      A 2016 GCN 1.0 bearing laptop for nearly 3 grand is crazy, but Nvidia not giving a crap about OpenCL is a big part of that. Really though, with Apples size, they could have had later GCN parts in semicustom power draws.

      To be frank things like the XPS 15 sorely tempt me, they’re getting close, awfully close…

      • mcarson09
      • 3 years ago

      I take it you game on a console? ;D

      I like to play video games and that’s the only reason I run windows. I’d like to game under linux but playing the Witcher 3 under wine is not ideal for me, plus no VR support at the moment.

      You Mac OS X people are always good for a laugh. Steve jobs is dead and so will the MacOS!

    • TheRazorsEdge
    • 3 years ago

    I upgraded on the last day, just in case the Anniversary Update makes me want to roll back.

    There was one small SNAFU. Since I had a second SSD that was cloned (via Acronis) to my current drive, the update attempted to use that Windows install instead of the current volume.

    I held off wiping the old drive “just in case” and haven’t need the space yet.

    The upgrade bombed several times due to a lack of space before I figured out what was happening.

    If there are multiple bootable volumes, it would seem reasonable to upgrade the current volume. I.e., the volume which the user elected to run the upgrade from.

    • LocalCitizen
    • 3 years ago

    i wish this was a multi-select poll. i have 5 pc / lappies with different experiences

    1 old old destop will stay on xp forever, i aint gonna give ms any money.

    i3 350m lappy is not compatible with win 10, so it went back to win 7

    3 other computers gets to stay on win 10 for a while. i already disabled cortana, disabled some services, killed candy crush. if win 10 still bothers me, i got the win7 disk image before the upgrade handy. it will only take 10 minutes to restore it.

    • MarkD
    • 3 years ago

    Yes on two PCs, no on my torrent box because Win 10 will not allow passwordless sharing which my Popcorn Hour needs. The replacement for this one is getting Centos.

    I hated Window 8, 10 is usable.

    So, three or four of the above.

    • BoilerGamer
    • 3 years ago

    Both on my desktop and laptop(both W10 Pro now). On laptop I actually used one of my old W7 Pro license to upgrade it to Win 10 Pro from W8.1 home.

    • USAFTW
    • 3 years ago

    You know what’s weird? People ‘paying for’ Win10.
    I mean, I upgraded from 7 to 10 because MS hold some features hostage (e.g. DX12). But so far 10 has been nothing but 7 + datamining + nuisance for me, and the ‘flatter than 8.1 look’ doesn’t help either.

    • Angst
    • 3 years ago

    Well it was a Yes (kind of, Surface Pro 1 upgraded, but actually if I do the wipe on the SP1 it’ll revert to 8)
    and a HELL NO! – I use Windows 8.1 on my NUC which I use as a OTA DVR – FU Microsoft for doing away with Mediacenter in Windows 10 – I will NEVER, NEVER (Do you hear me?) upgrade when it takes away my DVR and makes my two USB TV Tuners useless to me.

    Additionally I hate Windows 10, personally I think windows 8.1 is better. Yeah yeah, blah blah blah – for all the whiners who couldn’t be arsed to press the windows key and type a few letters of whatever application they wanted to use – well that’s your problem – and Windows 10 isn’t exactly a better solution (with them forcing the whole spy-on-every-thing-you-do-whether-you-agree-or-not).

    Just my $0.02

    /end rant

      • EndlessWaves
      • 3 years ago

      [quote<]Microsoft for doing away with Mediacenter in Windows 10 - I will NEVER, NEVER (Do you hear me?) upgrade when it takes away my DVR and makes my two USB TV Tuners useless to me.[/quote<] Media centre is one of the most niche programs that were bundled with Windows. It's surprising it even made it into Vista, it's downright astonishing that it was supported this long. While it's perfectly reasonable to stick with Windows 8.1 for that machine, it is a bit unreasonable to blame Microsoft for dropping the feature from future versions.

      • bittermann
      • 3 years ago

      You lost me at “personally I think windows 8.1 is better”. There is something really wrong with you. Go lie down for a while.

      • ThatStupidCat
      • 3 years ago

      OMG you’re my hero. The only other person to admit that Windows 8.1 is better than Windows 7 and/or Windows 10!

    • rechicero
    • 3 years ago

    I did, and I regret. But I’m sooo lazy and don’t want to install Win7 from scratch. If they keep breaking Win32 I will, though.

    • End User
    • 3 years ago

    On my primary PC I bought a copy of Windows 10 Pro when it was released and popped it on a new boot SSD.

    For every other PC and Windows VM I upgraded.

    • maxxcool
    • 3 years ago

    Upgraded only 2 of my 6 pc’s.. no need on the other 4 yet.

    • CAIN
    • 3 years ago

    Linux is the OS i use 95% of the time, but I did upgrade last summer to Win10 for that modded Skyrim gaming I need every now and then.

    • Chrispy_
    • 3 years ago

    Yep Yeppidy yep yep yep.

    On every system I own, every system I’ve built for others over the last year and everyone who has come to me asking for assistance with upgrades that failed.

    It’s a no-brainer because you don’t lose the ability to go back to 7 or 8. It’s not like that old product key bursts into flames and cannot be used ever again because of the upgrade. At any point if Windows 10 starts to look too sinister anyone who took advantage of the offer can just nuke their W10 install and go back to their previous OS with their previous key.

      • smilingcrow
      • 3 years ago

      I thought after 30 days you can’t revert so are stuck on 10?

        • Chrispy_
        • 3 years ago

        If you upgraded to 10 from your 7 or 8 install, you used a 7 or 8 product key. There should be a sticker on your PC or laptop somewhere with your 7/8/8.1 product key; If not, your OEM is required to provide it to you. Whatever license you had before the W10 free upgrade offer is still valid, so you can wipe your disk and install whatever you had before.

        The 30 day thing is literally a revert back to your previous state from before the W10 upgrade. You can no longer revert to exactly how it was before hand but you can definitely still reinstall your original OS using your previous edition’s Windows licence.

          • smilingcrow
          • 3 years ago

          Thanks for that.
          There is no product key on the license sticker with Win8.x as that ended with Win7.
          You can extract it from the BIOS easily enough which I have done.
          Since the system has a digital entitlement to Win10 I wonder if you are allowed to revert back and for between the two a number of times?

        • ThatStupidCat
        • 3 years ago

        I think the ability to rollback into a backup will get deleted after 30 days. You should be able to do a clean install to your previous version.

    • kuraegomon
    • 3 years ago

    (EDIT: Thinking about it, this post is also a paean to Windows 7, which in terms of focus and launch stability is by far the best consumer OS that Microsoft has ever built.)

    I completed my upgrade 3 hours before the deadline πŸ˜› But, my OS’s story is a little more involved than that…

    So you know how, for so many years, PC enthusiasts have told the uninitiated to reinstall regulary? Well, I appreciate the benefits, but I’ve also appreciated the pain that those same uninitiated have over reinstalling everything, and my main desktop OS now takes the opposing philosophy to a slightly deranged extreme. Behold – that installation is now 7-1/2 years old (no biggie)… and has moved hardware 3 times!

    – Installed Win7 Beta in January 2009
    – Upgraded the beta to Win7 RC in May 2009
    – Upgraded the RC to the RTM on February 28th, 2010 i.e. hours before the every two hour shutdowns were scheduled to start – are you detecting a trend yet? :’-D
    – Windows 7 SP1 upgrade + plus all the patches, yada, yada
    – Upgraded to Windows 8 …. oh HELL, no! I may be stupid, but I ain’t crazy πŸ˜€
    – Upgraded 7 to 10 as described above

    As for the hardware:

    – Asus Striker Extreme with a Q6600, and 4xWD Raptors in RAID0
    – P6X58D with an i7-930, on an OCZ Vertex 2 240 GB
    – P9X79 Pro with an i7-3930K, still the Vertex 2
    – P8P67 Pro with an i7-3770K, with 2x Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB in RAID0 (I turned the previous rig into a Solaris/Linux workstation)
    – Back to the P9X79 Pro and 3930K, with 2x Samsung 850 EVO 500GB in RAID0 (as I didn’t need the workstation anymore)

    If you’re counting the hardware moves, and arrived at 4 rather than 3, I’m really only counting the times I used Win7 Backup/Restore to move the OS to a new partition. As an aside, don’t do that if you can afford otherwise – Macrium Reflect is soooo much better at it, and my last partition move (post the Windows 10 installation) was much the easier for it.

    I don’t know how the Windows 10 experience is going to go, but my Windows 7 experience was awesome πŸ™‚ I wouldn’t have kept this installation alive for so long otherwise. I ended up starting down this road because:

    – I upgraded the Beta to the RC because I found out it could be done, and did it for kicks.
    – The RC was so bloody stable (more than any other Microsoft OS to this point), that I kept it until the last minute.
    – The RTM (and after a few hiccups, SP1 as well) were also really stable. Every time I found an issue, I was able to trace it back to a rogue update or driver, and recover with System Restore.

    By then I had the OS _just_ the way I liked it, and found that my approach of troubleshooting and preserving the installation went over really well with the (small!) stable of friends and relatives whose systems I was maintaining. I think that approach comes from working with Solaris and Linux, where that’s just what you do, and giving up on an OS installation really is the ultimate admission of the failure of your sysadmin skills πŸ™‚

    Anyway, this post is way too damned long now, and I don’t recommend this approach to anyone, but thinking about this poll made me realize what a long, strange trip it’s been for my OS, so I thought I’d share.

    • odizzido
    • 3 years ago

    Where is the I installed W10 on another drive incase I want to use it in the future but I am still using my old OS option?

    • maroon1
    • 3 years ago

    The 3rd option should be changed to this “No, I’m an idiot. So, I’m sticking with Windows 7 or 8.1”

      • bittermann
      • 3 years ago

      [quote<]The 3rd option should be changed to this "No, I'm an idiot. So, I'm sticking with Windows 8.1".[/quote<] Fixed for accuracy.

        • evilpaul
        • 3 years ago

        I didn’t like 8, but 8.1 Update and later I had no issues with it.

    • Aquilino
    • 3 years ago

    It’s not free unless there are no requisittttttes. And no downgrades to the recipient (ie, the license is now tied to the hardware regardless of the previous OS license conditions).

    You know what was free this last year? The betatesters.

    • Bauxite
    • 3 years ago

    I used all my old technet keys to make sure everyone’s Win10 home infestation I knew about was at least upgraded to pro, the v1511 update made this easy. Then I read a week later that even pro is being screwed out of some of the administrative controls.

    Other than that, the only “real” upgrade I did was bringing my main gaming PC from 8.1 pro. I blew away 7 on a couple older lenono laptops that had the annoying [s<]upgrade[/s<] malware notification and put 16.04.1 on, some of them are surprisingly snappy again.

    • Ninjitsu
    • 3 years ago

    I updated my laptop* to Win 10 Pro but my desktop remains Win 7, but I could only choose one option so I chose the “not updating” option.

    Jeff you missed the part about the forced auto updates…

    *Laptop came with OEM Win 8 Pro, which I didn’t want, so I was using a shady copy of Win 7 till May, when I finally installed Win 8 and updated to Win 10…and sort of regret not sticking with 7.

    • Unknown-Error
    • 3 years ago

    Yep! Well…..partially. I have dual-bool Win10 and Win7. I will keep the Win7 as it is, but I did upgrade my Win8.1 to Win10.

    • Firestarter
    • 3 years ago

    yep, somewhere in the first few weeks. My experience so far has been flawless, too, I just disabled all the cortana/bing/start menu tiles and for all I’m concerned it’s just a better Windows 7. The only thing that bothers me is the schizophrenic configuration UI, having both a “modern UI” settings app and an old fashioned control panel is pretty stupid, especially considering that the new UI still doesn’t have all the settings that you can access with the old panels. So I just defaulted to using the old control panel and all is well again.

    • mcnabney
    • 3 years ago

    Since they axed WMC one of my boxes is still on 7. I also have a laptop still on 7. Everything else moved to 10. Reliability isn’t as good as it was.

    • ultima_trev
    • 3 years ago

    Yes, Microsoft Windows 10 is the best O/S that exists, bar none, much like Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 before it. There was no reason to turn down a free upgrade to this infallible, godlike operating system.

    • tanker27
    • 3 years ago

    Hmm not an option in the poll.

    Yes I installed Win10. However, I didn’t use MS’s upgrade feature but instead used one of my MSDN keys to do it.

      • trackerben
      • 3 years ago

      Same, but I used 2 successive sets of keys for one holdout system. I was going to apply 3 to upgrade-in-place(!) an even gnarlier production image, except that one of the others gave me a Vista-to-7 fit and delayed things before I could finally get to the old guy.

      • heyal256
      • 3 years ago

      I would have picked another option. Staying on windows 8.1 for now, but will use a MSDN key when I am ready to upgrade to windows 10. I currently don’t see a need to upgrade to windows 10 for a few years, and at that point I would do a clean install of the OS anyways.

    • DreadCthulhu
    • 3 years ago

    Not touching it here. The UI, while better than Win 8 is still a step back from Windows 7, all the telemetry issues, lack of control over updates, and the fact that the updates can & have done stuff like reset privacy settings, or uninstall user installed programs without any sort of prompting means I have no interest in it.

    I will keep running Windows 7 until support runs out (with the telemetry updates MS has tried to backport blocked of course), and then switch to Linux full time. I am already using Linux more and more anyways, I already switched over my HTPC (which doesn’t do any gaming more intense than emulators), and by 2020 either Linux will have an adequate game catalog (already the Steam selection is not too bad), or GPU-passthrough will have all the kinks worked out, so I can keep Windows 10 in a nice contained VM for gaming & use Linux for everything else.

    • glacius555
    • 3 years ago

    I upgraded on the last day, coz I hoped I’d upgrade my hardware before the last day. But nope, wasn’t meant to be, chipset P55 refuses to die.

    Also, can someone tell me what was the story with ‘cheese’ option in TR polls?

    • smilingcrow
    • 3 years ago

    I think you missed a few options:

    A) I upgraded to 10 to get my digital entitlement for potential future use and have rolled back to my previous version.
    B) I upgraded to 10 in the last month and am still evaluating it so may return to the previous version.

    I am at option B) and there are a few niggles the audio driver being a fairly significant one.
    I left it until last Thursday as I want to evaluate the Anniversary Update within the 30 day roll back period.
    I’ll probably wait a few weeks to do that in case the Anniversary Update has issues.

    I imaged my 8.1 drive using two separate tools so I can revert after 30 days if required.
    Dell gave me half a dozen Win8 Pro Serial numbers so I can use one of those if necessary as otherwise they will go unused.

    • Srsly_Bro
    • 3 years ago

    I also installed Spybot AntiBeacon on my Win 10 installation.

      • Kharnellius
      • 3 years ago

      How could you possibly be against Bacon?

      EDIT: Nevermind…misread it. Nearly cried.

      • Aquilino
      • 3 years ago

      There’s no overkill in this, you should go through all the related applications:
      Ashampoo AntiSpy
      Win10 Spy Disabler
      O&O ShutUp10
      Destroy Windows Spying
      Disable Win Tracking
      Phrozensoft Windows Privacy Tweaker
      W10Privacy
      Blackbird
      Aegis is abandoned. Maybe there are more that are not fake or troublemakers.

      And disable your unneeded and/or resilience-spyware oriented tasks on the Task Scheduler. Microsoft is doing a pretty good job to enforce that Windows update remains functional even if you actively don’t want to.

    • Concupiscence
    • 3 years ago

    I took them up on one – my new Core i5’s running Windows 10 Pro with no issues. The home theater PC’s running Windows 8.1, just because everything on it’s working and I didn’t feel like upsetting the apple cart. That rig could honestly run Ubuntu given its use cases anyway. The Linux box continues to run Xubuntu, and will for the foreseeable future.

    • ronch
    • 3 years ago

    No. 7 is the new XP.

      • LostCat
      • 3 years ago

      Completely ignored by anyone with common sense and its users screaming bloody murder when MS stops supporting it?

        • ronch
        • 3 years ago

        You all enjoy Windows 10, ok? Microsoft would love that.

          • psuedonymous
          • 3 years ago

          “Microsoft would love that.”

          Along with anyone that has to support any number of PCs greater than zero. No love for Windows 7 here, definitely don’t want another XP.

          • LostCat
          • 3 years ago

          I will too, thanks.

    • tipoo
    • 3 years ago

    I’ve been on every Windows public beta since Vista, so…Yes, and it wasn’t last minute πŸ˜›

    Been running 10 since before it was out, did have growing pains, it’s pretty good now and the anniversary update will bring it further.

    • AnotherReader
    • 3 years ago

    I upgraded my main desktop and primary laptop from Windows 8.1 last year. I upgraded my secondary desktop from Windows 7 only two weeks ago.

    • yogibbear
    • 3 years ago

    Yes, I waited till the last possible day, mainly because I was cleaning up the OS drive anyway when installing my new 1080, but now all my [i<]completely innocent files[/i<] keep popping up in customized albums on my start menu and in recent files on file explorer πŸ™ Cortana must suspect me of being a very [i<]boring[/i<] person. Can't wait for the targeted advertising.

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 3 years ago

      There are plenty of apps that block all that stuff.

        • EndlessWaves
        • 3 years ago

        But you’d have to use the app store!

          • Srsly_Bro
          • 3 years ago

          I feel like I’m getting trolled or you and the other person are 15 and only know of apps on app stores. I took the bait.

        • Ninjitsu
        • 3 years ago

        “Windows 10 is GREAT*”

        *once you disable cortana, all the spyware, hack the registry a bit, disable the auto installing candy crush, use Classic Shell, third party apps to block first party apps, etc.

        “BUT WINDOZE 10 IS THE BEST WINDOZE EVAR GUIZE! VOCAL MINORITY CAN BE VOCAL YA KNOW”

          • designerfx
          • 3 years ago

          This kinda kills it for me too.

          • sweatshopking
          • 3 years ago

          It is a minority. Windows 10 is better. 7 sucks. I’ve done none of those things on any of the machines I’ve installed it on, and not one person has complained about it.

            • Ninjitsu
            • 3 years ago

            BTW the caps weren’t a dig at you, I quite like the comedy using caps produces. *hugs*

          • mcarson09
          • 3 years ago

          Windows Lives Matter!

      • smilingcrow
      • 3 years ago

      “Can’t wait for the targeted advertising.”

      I use a local account to login, Classic Shell as a start menu and Chrome as a browser logged in with a Google account so where are MS going to show me adverts?

        • Maboroshi Daikon
        • 3 years ago

        The lock screen that you’ll no longer be able to disable after the Anniversary update.

          • smilingcrow
          • 3 years ago

          The lock screen that you see when you first login and then it’s gone?

            • Maboroshi Daikon
            • 3 years ago

            Also when you come out of sleep/hibernate.

            • smilingcrow
            • 3 years ago

            I can live with another 3 seconds of almost subliminal advertising per day considering the way the world is set-up.
            Not that I’ve seen any at all yet on my login screen unless they were actually subliminal!

            I make light of it but if they are showing ads on the lock screen they can kiss my ass.

            • sweatshopking
            • 3 years ago

            There hasn’t been a single ad on a windows 10 lock screen. Their is on android though, and he probably happily uses android.

            • DreadCthulhu
            • 3 years ago

            That statement is factually incorrect. Microsoft has been placing ads on the lock screen [url=http://www.howtogeek.com/243263/how-to-disable-ads-on-your-windows-10-lock-screen/<]since Febuary[/url<]. These ads can currently be disabled, but that could always change with a future update. Already, with the anniversary update, Microsoft is removing the ability to use group policy in the "Professional" version to disable the lockscreen for users.

            • sweatshopking
            • 3 years ago

            Whaaaa first I’ve hard of that!

            • K-L-Waster
            • 3 years ago

            Gotta say, I’ve had Win10 on all 3 of my systems since it came out, and have never had an ad show up on the lock screen.

            • DreadCthulhu
            • 3 years ago

            Take a look at the link I posted, and check your settings. You may have had the setting that allows ads on the lock screen already disabled, which is why you haven’t seen any ads. Or MS simply decided to not send you any, for whatever reason.

            • Maboroshi Daikon
            • 3 years ago

            Nice deflection, but you’re wrong, of course. Besides, it is never, ever OK to do something because “Look, he’s doing it too!”

            As DreadCthulhu also pointed out, Windows in changing. You can say, “Well, it’s fine today. I can disable the lock screen!” Tomorrow, assuming we both update, that will no longer be the case. Also, say hello to Cortana again: No disabling that anymore either. Actually, there’s quite a few changes in Anniversary that are causing me to seriously consider going back to 7. Maybe they’ll stop there and not go any further, but somehow, I’m just not feeling all that confident about that.

            And before you can say “Enterprise,” like I see so many claiming, I can’t afford the other 499 licenses needed for Software Assurance. Perhaps we can go with the $7 a month rental option, though. Not sure what the minimum order is there.

            • Ninjitsu
            • 3 years ago

            There are no ads on stock android*. I don’t know if that’s true for contract phones they sell you folks in North America, though.

            *I don’t mean apps, they of course may choose to have ads. Google apps don’t, paid apps don’t, and sometimes free ones don’t either. OS itself has none.

            • sweatshopking
            • 3 years ago

            O
            M
            G

            • Ninjitsu
            • 3 years ago

            COME OUT OF SLEEP SHEEPLE!

        • rechicero
        • 3 years ago

        I installed with a local account, after an update, Win10 used the hotmail account configured in the mail client to migrate to a hotmail account :-S. They reset all the privacy settings to “send all kind of info”. All without asking or prompting (I noticed about the privacy settings because I check after seeing they change the account for logging in). MS is being shady as hell. And I’m very attached to my Win7 disk. I suspect I’ll need it soon.

          • smilingcrow
          • 3 years ago

          So they changed you from a local account to a MS account?
          If you use Hotmail you deserve all you get!
          But seriously, that is some shady shit they are pulling.
          I’m going to see how it goes but I may revert to 8.1.

            • rechicero
            • 3 years ago

            It’s the account for registering in webs and that sort of thing, not the main account. But it was really nasty as I had a LastPass generated password… Imagine my face when Win10 ask for the password. :-S

            Luckily I always have another installation of Windows in a backup HDD, booted from it, checked the password, entered and disabled the password in the login (no way of reverting to local account AFAIK, though).

    • derFunkenstein
    • 3 years ago

    Weird thing happened to my dad’s PC. It wasn’t Windows 10 eligible because it has an ancient Athlon II with an Nvidia chipset with integrated graphics. I can’t turn off the integrated graphics in the BIOS even though I popped a GTX 650 into the machine for him, so it still couldn’t update to Windows 10.

    It’s an old eMachines from not long after Win7 came out, so I guess he’s gotten his $400 worth.

    I’ve got Win 10 on all the machines in my house, each of them upgraded from Win 8.1.

      • Vaughn
      • 3 years ago

      Its not the video card that is the problem with the windows 10 update in that old machine.

      My socket 939 opteron with a radeon 5450 which is doing HTPC duty won’t upgrade aswell.

      And the error points to a missing instruction set on the processor as the reason.

      missing CMPXCHG instruction

      From what I’ve seen you may be able to force a win10 32bit install to get around it but the 64bit version fails with that error.

        • derFunkenstein
        • 3 years ago

        Socket 939 is quite a bit older than an AM3 [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_X2_microprocessors#.22Regor.22_.2845_nm.29<]Regor core[/url<] Athlon II (on an AM2+ board so it has DDR2 support), but that's interesting. This system came with 6GB of memory so we wouldn't want to go with a 32-bit install anyway.

          • evilpaul
          • 3 years ago

          My parent’s PC had an Athlon 64 X2 6000+ that I bumped up to a Phenom II X4 855 with an old Nvidia 939 chipset (ASUS M2N-SLI) with no integrated graphics that upgrade to Win10 just fine. It’s got a Geforce 550 Ti in it.

            • Shobai
            • 3 years ago

            The M2N-SLI will be an AM2[/AM2+] board [“M2”, geddit?]

            • faramir
            • 3 years ago

            WTF? I couldn’t get that exact same board (M2N-SLI) to work, it would end up in a BSOD-restart loop halfway through the installation process.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 3 years ago

            Maybe some marginal memory that would let it run OK but updating the OS would barf?

        • ludi
        • 3 years ago

        S939 Opterons couldn’t upgrade to Windows 8.1, either. Windows 8.0 was end-of-line for that platform.

        • Concupiscence
        • 3 years ago

        Yeah, that bug bit me when I was trying to get Windows 8.1 x64 crammed onto a 90nm Pentium D box a few years back. $12 for a Presler Pentium D 945 from eBay and the box was good to go, in its arduously pokey way.

    • sweatshopking
    • 3 years ago

    Duh. Yes.

    • kamikaziechameleon
    • 3 years ago

    FTR, windows should have a free consumer OS anyway. Their financial model is outdated.

    EDIT: MS has made windows 10 into a content platform similar to android and iOS. I have no issue paying for OS’s. I’ve purchased every version of windows. But this current iteration is not really supposed to monetize the same way.

      • NTMBK
      • 3 years ago

      Yeah, because charging a fair price for software is [i<]so[/i<] much worse than "monetizing users". I miss the days when OS and software distribution were totally separate businesses. Another thing to blame Apple for.

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 3 years ago

        Well the design of the OS would indicate it should be free. If they changed it back towards windows 7 design it would make sense to charge for it. Instead its clearly a content platform from the get go. Charging for the platform is just going to loose them market share eventually, certainly doesn’t earn the business of people who loved windows 7.

          • smilingcrow
          • 3 years ago

          “Its clearly a content platform from the get go”

          Do you actually believe that BS?
          Its a fully featured O/S as per all the other versions and there is no requirement to purchase MS content at all or use the Store to buy anything.
          The store has been there since 8.0 and I’ve never bought anything there.
          I use Classic Shell so no Apps are promoted to me that way.

          Win10 has issues but you are an idiot.

            • kamikaziechameleon
            • 3 years ago

            FYI, android has no such requirement either, you might also be an idiot. πŸ™‚

      • cygnus1
      • 3 years ago

      I don’t know about totally free, MS has to make money off new systems. But I do think the free upgrade program should go on. I would think it would be more in MS best interests to have any existing systems running Win10 than to have the user stay on an older OS because it’s good enough vs the cost of paying to upgrade. I know people that missed the upgrade window for various reasons. Not necessarily good reasons, but reasons. I would hope MS brings back the upgrade program by the end of the year.

      The other option for folks is to just join the Windows Insider program and go on the slow ring. That gets them on Win10, just at the cost of being a beta tester. Maybe MS will introduce an even slower ring and they can entice the hold outs with that freebie.

        • Ninjitsu
        • 3 years ago

        No, it should be “free upgrade + all the metro, spyware and NEW THINGS” and a paid upgrade without all of that.

        I’d pay gladly.

          • cygnus1
          • 3 years ago

          Yeah, I would probably consider paying for a version like that. Was it ever confirmed how much of the phoning home activity takes place on the Enterprise edition of Win10?

            • kamikaziechameleon
            • 3 years ago

            I could totally go for that. We are doing the win 10 update soon here. :^/ I’ll miss my win 7

            • Ninjitsu
            • 3 years ago

            Well enterprise is on a subscription model afaik…

            • cygnus1
            • 3 years ago

            Right, it’s only available through volume licensing with software assurance (and MSDN). But it gets different options for updates and whatnot, so I was curious if anyone ever saw an analysis of it’s phoning home compared to the vanilla and pro editions.

            • Ninjitsu
            • 3 years ago

            IIRC it does less of the things, and many components can be blocked. Don’t know if it’s still going to be true after the anniversary update, or to the same granularity.

            I’ll admit I don’t really follow the enterprise space, though.

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 3 years ago

        I think the thing people don’t get cause I didn’t say it articulately enough is the design of windows 10 is that of a content platform. Similar to android and iOS now. Its not priced to reflect that its competing with those and as such going to forfeit market share.

          • smilingcrow
          • 3 years ago

          Fantasy trolling. FO.

            • kamikaziechameleon
            • 3 years ago

            your fantasy trolling?

            Its a legitimate point. As people migrate away from PC’s on the consumer level because the associated cost and limited functionality of a consumer PC, MS could help this be removing some of that cost. Its not like they have a smart device platform they are actively promoting or anything.

      • chΒ΅ck
      • 3 years ago

      I just want to pay for things and go my own way…

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 3 years ago

        Amen to that, I agree. I hope they always have a pay for option.

        But the consumer side of the market needs to drop the associated up front cost of the OS, windows needs to improve their stinking storefronts, and then they can quantify the software consumption more while still being an open platform.

          • Ninjitsu
          • 3 years ago

          I would respectfully disagree. They’re free to build an app store for those who need it, but the “get what you pay for” attitude inherent in traditional trade is probably the best.

          Mobile OSes serve a fundamentally different type of market. A mobile phone’s primary job is communication on the go, be it cellular or data.

          A full fledged PC, whether laptop or desktop, *nix or Windows, serves as a general purpose tool. When you buy a PC for your family or kid, you want it to serve as a print/scan station, writing station, somewhere where you can do your spreadsheet work, play games, kids can learn, etc.

          Sure, maybe tablets are excellent teaching tools – but if you want the next generation to [i<]grow to understand technology[/i<], master it, improve it and its applications... you need a PC form factor device. You need a simple OS (in terms of UI), that is stable, secure and works - yet open enough that anyone can tinker and explore its systems, whether hardware or software. MS is free to make a Consumer or "light" version that caters to people who absolutely do not need a general purpose system - something like Chrome OS. But ignoring their traditional crowd is dumb imo. That crowd will always exist, because everyone has work to do. Windows 10 is also terrible from a third world perspective, we simply don't have the infrastructure to handle the system's demands of bandwidth economically, or all the time. #makewindowsproagain

      • NovusBogus
      • 3 years ago

      I suspect we’ll have this in a few years, but it’ll be the social media style free*. The questionable parts of W10 are arguably laying the groundwork for this, and MS would have to be even dumber /greedier than Linux fanboys say they are if they think the flood of cheap tablets that do everything the typical non-hardcore user needs aren’t an existential threat to the consumer-facing side of the company.

      Careful what you wish for…you might get it!

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 3 years ago

        I’m not against the pay for style of OS distribution. But since win 7 we’ve not had a OS eligible of that. I’m not even saying they couldn’t have a paid for version of the OS. Just that for the sake of stinking market share they need to shift how they quantify consumer products.

      • tipoo
      • 3 years ago

      Apples OS price is bundled into its hardware. Microsoft sells software mostly, Surface is but a blip. No other companies are quite comparable to either. Google just wants people hooked into its services.

      • alrey
      • 3 years ago

      I’m perfectly ok with paying for OS as long as it works well like Win 7. In fact, I even bought 2 ultimate versions. MS has lost focus. I’d say bring back Gates.

      • ThatStupidCat
      • 3 years ago

      I have been thinking about this. I agree and disagree. Hear me out. If Microsoft wants to advertise directly to your computer then they should give the OS for free. I mean totally free. You can build a new computer, download the free version from Microsoft, and in return they get the right to all you do and advertise directly to you. But if you pay for it then there will be limits. If you pay the max amount then no advertising at all and have full control of your OS. This is a business model Microsoft could look into but I think they are getting hooked into the subscription model.

      The ONLY thing I hate is having no real control on the updates. Windows 10 allows you to defer but not indefinitely. Updates can break Windows and programs. Nothing worst than starting the morning and finding the programs you need to run your business is suddenly not working and you lose the morning or day trying to fix the computer.

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