Micron slaps QuantX label on 3D XPoint memory

Intel and Micron's 3D XPoint memory technology has been drawing attention recently. The companies claim that this non-volatile memory (pronounced "3D cross-point") should provide significantly higher performance than NAND while being much more dense. In advance of its keynote speech later today at the Flash Memory Summit, Micron has released details about how 3D XPoint will appear on the market.

We already know that Intel will sell the memory under the Optane branding, and has a line of solid-state disks on the way. Micron, on the other hand, revealed today that it will sell the memory under the brand Micron QuantX. Computerworld quotes Micron's vice president of storage solutions, Jon Carter, as saying that Micron and Intel have "completely separate" and distinct marketing plans. Furthermore, Carter indicated that its products will focus on data center applications, noting that while QuantX may appear in mobile and desktop products at some point, it won't be in the near future.

More information should be available as the Flash Memory Summit continues, and we'll certainly know more as Intel and Micron get some products closer to market.

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    • Lord.Blue
    • 3 years ago

    I wonder if this could replace system memory

      • ImSpartacus
      • 3 years ago

      If I was a betting man, I’d assume that it would become its own “tier” of memory. It’s not better than dram or nand, just different.

        • meerkt
        • 3 years ago

        L1->L2->L3->L4->eSRAM->HBM->DRAM->3DX->SSD->HDD is the future.

          • brucethemoose
          • 3 years ago

          It’s 2016, where is my giant SRAM hard drive that I was promised?

          • djayjp
          • 3 years ago

          Minus the HDD ;P

          • ronch
          • 3 years ago

          I’m not sure my FX’s L3 can reach 500GB/sec. Heck maybe even the L1 can’t.

            • ImSpartacus
            • 3 years ago

            It’s not bandwidth, but latency that he’s talking about. It gets weird to try to get a meaningful bandwidth stat from those low level caches.

          • ImSpartacus
          • 3 years ago

          I don’t think it’ll be that crowded, but yeah, that’s roughly the order that we’re looking at today.

    • godforsaken
    • 3 years ago

    So… is this pronounced quantcross then?

      • DrCR
      • 3 years ago

      Quant Ten, if used in Apple-branded hardware.

    • WhatMeWorry
    • 3 years ago

    I would of named it KWANTX EXTREME XL for more marketing awesomeness.

      • Neutronbeam
      • 3 years ago

      If you want marketing awesomeness wait until they add LEDs to the memory to make it even faster.

      • hansmuff
      • 3 years ago

      Surely you mean KWANTX XTREME FROZR+ XXL XLED

    • Airmantharp
    • 3 years ago

    Biggest concern is going to be $/MB. While ‘faster’ and ‘more dense’ sound great, in the (consumer) age of streaming and M.2 SSDs that saturate their PCIe interfaces already at the high-end, while providing almost no perceivable improvement over mass-market SATA3 drives, it’s hard to imagine just how large of a niche this technology will find.

      • Visigoth
      • 3 years ago

      You will eat your words this time next year. THIS is the future of NAND-based storage. Anyone blind enough not to see this needs to get out of the computing business altogether.

      • limitedaccess
      • 3 years ago

      NVME SSDs only saturate the interface for sequential workloads which is also where they have the most gains compared to SATA SSDs. They don’t really improve upon SATA SSDs for random workloads.

      X point looks like it will be making a large leap in random work load performance and latency. Both of these factors are also actually what is the more significant improvement of SSDs over HDDs and not the sequential performance improvements.

      Don’t discount the touted endurance benefits of X point either.

    • shank15217
    • 3 years ago

    AMD is gonna use 3d xpoint memory in their new GPU + Storage product to enable some really interesting GPGPU use cases.

    • ronch
    • 3 years ago

    For whatever reason the name ‘Quantex’ keeps popping in my head lately. You guys know Quantex, right?

    I must either be psychic or nostalgic.

      • w76
      • 3 years ago

      My first computer was a Quantex… That thing was a tank.

        • ronch
        • 3 years ago

        You mean it blew everything up?

    • brucethemoose
    • 3 years ago

    Has TR (or anyone else) done a good writeup on how 3D XPoint works? Or is all of that still under NDA?

      • Jeff Kampman
      • 3 years ago

      Intel hasn’t really taken the wraps off the in-depth workings of the product, as far as I’m aware. I’m hoping to learn more about it at IDF next week.

        • short_fuze
        • 3 years ago

        For some fascinating in-depth analysis of Intel and Micron’s projects in this area, check out the articles posted by “Stephen Breezy” (pseudonym):

        [url<]http://seekingalpha.com/author/stephen-breezy/articles#regular_articles[/url<] You can start with this one and work forward: [url<]http://seekingalpha.com/article/3759766-3d-xpoint-point?source=all_articles_title[/url<]

      • EricBorn
      • 3 years ago

      Check out the first link in the article. The boss man wrote up a piece with everything we know.

      Fair warning: there’s a lot we still don’t know.

      • ImSpartacus
      • 3 years ago

      Anandtech a modest high level write up like a year ago. I don’t think anyone has hard details.

      [url<]http://www.anandtech.com/show/9470/intel-and-micron-announce-3d-xpoint-nonvolatile-memory-technology-1000x-higher-performance-endurance-than-nand[/url<]

    • UberGerbil
    • 3 years ago

    Makes sense. Optane sounds more like a consumer-facing brand; Quantx is going to appeal to the users of big data and big FLOPS, the Quants.

    I’m just glad 3D XPoint is moving to the background; aside from being a mouthful and sounding more like something that would require goofy glasses, I could not stop pronouncing it like it was a peripheral for the XBox.

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 3 years ago

      What, the CrossBox?

        • psuedonymous
        • 3 years ago

        [quote<]CrossBox[/quote<]Where you get sent for a Time Out after penning too many incoherent rants railing against 'M$'.

      • Neutronbeam
      • 3 years ago

      Agree. Optane should be a gasoline additive.

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