Samsung CFG70 curved gaming displays come with quantum dots

Folks who are into high-performance gaming monitors are always looking for the holy grail—that perfect combination of clear motion, bright colors, high resolution, and a high refresh rate. Well, how about three out of four? Samsung is announcing the global launch of the CFG70 curved gaming monitor series, comprising two models called C24FG70 and C27FG70. The CFG70s tick a lot of boxes on gamers' wishlists: high contrast, a 144 Hz refresh rate, AMD FreeSync support, and a low-persistence strobe mode, among others.

There isn't a lot of info available about the 27" C27FG70, but the product page for its 24" cousin is up and the specs are tantalizing. The monitor uses a 8-bit VA panel with an 1800R curvature and 3000:1 typical contrast. Samsung uses a quantum-dot backlight on the CFG70, and claims that the display can reproduce "125% of the sRGB gamut," whatever that actually means. Like most of Samsung's recent monitors, the new model has AMD FreeSync support for refresh rates up to 144Hz. Uniquely, Samsung emphasizes the monitor's low-persistence "impulsive scanning" mode and says that the CFG70 has a Moving Picture Response Time (MPRT) of 1ms.

That term isn't fabricated by Samsung. Researchers were aware of the problem of LCD persistence as early as 2001. The nature of LCDs makes them prone to sample-and-hold blurring, which is why many hardcore FPS gamers clung to their massive CRT displays so long. MPRT is an academic measure of a display's tendency to blur a moving picture, and the 1-ms rating Samsung quotes for the CFG70 is more or less as good as it gets. Unfortunately, most of the articles on MPRT are behind paywalls, so you'll have to take our word for it. You can test your own display's MPRT at the BlurBusters' TestUFO site.

Of course, with any amazing new product there's always a trade-off, and in this case it's the monitor's relatively low 1920×1080 resolution. The lower resolution does mean that more gamers will be able to make use of the high framerates required to enjoy the low-persistence impulsive scanning mode, though. The CFG70 will include two HDMI ports and a DisplayPort connection, and like the CF791 before it, it'll support FreeSync over HDMI. Samsung didn't provide pricing or availability on the new monitor.

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    • albundy
    • 3 years ago

    “125% of the sRGB gamut” now with more color than there are colors?

      • synthtel2
      • 3 years ago

      Take a look at [url=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Cie_Chart_with_sRGB_gamut_by_spigget.png<]this[/url<]. There's a lot of color outside of sRGB. See also [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color<]impossible colors[/url<] for fun stuff (though it's not relevant to display tech).

    • jts888
    • 3 years ago

    Wider gamuts are potentially nice (moreso on HDR/10+bpc panels I’d say), but I’m still hoping to hear good news on use of QDs in actual qdLED pixels, which have the potential to do what OLED was supposed to without the same longevity challenges.

    As soon as you move to LED pixels, you can start having arbitrarily high refresh rates, and using longer-lived LED molecules opens the door for motion clarity-preserving strobing.

    Edit: also, perfect viewing angles, better gamut than even QD backlights due to no cross-subpixel light bleed, better power efficiency, and probably some other things I forgot too…

    • RdVi
    • 3 years ago

    Ticks all of the boxes except for resolution for me. Curved at that size/aspect is probably a downside also.

    If it were reasonably priced I’d love one just for gaming. The only problem is mounting it in a way where I can have both of my monitors in front of me and pull one down in front of my 1440p daily monitor that isn’t great for gaming. Maybe one of those large monitor arms? Probably too expensive once again…

    Also not sure how free-sync would be handled with two monitors and one not supporting it, even if it turned one off when gaming.

      • Kretschmer
      • 3 years ago

      Freesync works in that setup (I’ve had the exact same thing), but it’s quirkier.

    • modulusshift
    • 3 years ago

    At first I was going to be upset that you said that about the 125% of sRGB gamut, but now that I think about it, that actually doesn’t mean anything. You can’t describe the colors outside of sRGB with the sRGB space. You could say something like “can use a colorspace 125% of the size of sRGB”, but that wouldn’t necessarily cover all of sRGB. If we accept terms like 125% of sRGB, then we’d have to let them get away with 100% sRGB even without covering all of sRGB, because it also happens to cover some colors outside of it.

    This is why we should only pay attention to sub-100% numbers. I assume that they mean a significant fraction of DCI P3 coverage, they should give us that percentage.

      • Sabresiberian
      • 3 years ago

      No what we should pay attention is color space testing done by reputable hardware sites providing graphic results of their tests. The percentage number is just meaningless period.

    • synthtel2
    • 3 years ago

    Is this the first freesync monitor with motion blur reduction? That’s not one I’ve heard of before.

    Now we just need to figure out how to use both at the same time. It’s not the toughest problem in display tech, and it would be great to not have to choose.

    • homerdog
    • 3 years ago

    “125% of the sRGB gamut”

    It clearly means that the display can produce 25% more colors than the colorspace defined in sRGB. I’m not even a rocket scientist 🙂

    Edit presenting more colors than the spec isn’t always a good thing. Just throwing that out there.

    • Kretschmer
    • 3 years ago

    Who the heck wants curves at 27″?

      • GTVic
      • 3 years ago

      Most people if you stop to thing about it. I use two 23″ monitors that are angled towards each other for comfort. Most people set their monitors this way instinctively. The radius of the equivalent curve is 1200mm.

      So if I had two of these 24″ with a radius of 1800mm that would be less drastic curvature than my current setup. Also, there would be no discontinuity where the monitors would meet. So to switch to these monitors would be completely natural and a better result than what I have now.

        • Kretschmer
        • 3 years ago

        Dual monitors is an edge case for gaming. Who wants a curved single 27″ monitor?

    • YukaKun
    • 3 years ago

    Interesting site you guys linked!

    This is my data, using an AOC G2460PF: 6.4ms MPRT

    [url<]http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8247566/BlurBusters_TestUFO.png[/url<] Is it worthy to stack more information on monitors using that site? Cheers!

      • ColeLT1
      • 3 years ago

      I think you are supposed to get each black/white “box” to end up square, like a perfect checkboard.

      [url<]http://www.blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/eyetracking-1024x576.jpg[/url<]

        • YukaKun
        • 3 years ago

        That’s a weird one… If I visually tracked (with my eyes) the UFO, I could see the checkered boxes. All screen-grabs showed the lines and without following the UFO i get solid lines (vertical ones) in my FOV.

        Eye illusion shenanigans FTW!

        Cheers!

          • ColeLT1
          • 3 years ago

          Ah, understood, thanks.

    • Firestarter
    • 3 years ago

    [list<] [*<] does it actually do backlight strobing at 144hz? Most monitors can only manage 120hz in that mode [/*<][*<] how bright is it when strobing? Many monitors are simply too dark with backlight strobing on [/*<] [/list<] Not that I'm interested in a curved and/or 1080p monitor

    • Gastec
    • 3 years ago

    I have looked on Samsung’s web page and indeed it’s written there “monitor expresses brilliant and accurate colors across a 125 percent sRGB spectrum”. That statement is a lie and an INSULT for all the clients (gamers or otherwise) that might want to buy this product. What do they take us for, children that don’t know what percentages are?

      • Voldenuit
      • 3 years ago

      You do know that there are many color spaces with a wider gamut than sRGB, right? Like Adobe RGB (used for print) and Rec.2020 (used for UHD). Many professional monitors have supported wider than sRGB for a long time, and while it’s more usual for them to report as % of AdobeRGB, they also sometimes report it as 1xx% sRGB. I’m curious to know if this monitor does HDR10 or not.

    • JAMF
    • 3 years ago

    With 8 bit and extra wide colour range, the steps between colours are bigger than on a normal colour range one. -> Increased visibility of banding.

    Oh. No VESA? And where did they pull that bezel from? A box from 2005?

      • Meadows
      • 3 years ago

      To be fair, your OS and games were never going to put out anything but 8 bits per channel, so your complaint is pretty much moot.

      And just to be even more fair, that 125% SRGB figure seems oddly high and might be cosmeticised by the use of dynamic contrast or who knows what.

      • MOSFET
      • 3 years ago

      Maybe the bezel contains (and constrains) the backlight bleed. Oh wait VA panel. Love em myself.

    • JosiahBradley
    • 3 years ago

    1080p and curved. NEXT.

      • Sargent Duck
      • 3 years ago

      Give them time to get the resolution up. They just crammed a LOT of high end specs in there.

    • pandion124
    • 3 years ago

    MORE DOTS!

      • RAGEPRO
      • 3 years ago

      Crushim was feared into the whelps.

      • Growler
      • 3 years ago

      Well, dots [i<]are[/i<] the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dippin%27_Dots<]ice cream of the future.[/url<]

      • Meadows
      • 3 years ago

      MANY WHELPS! NOW, HANDLE IT!

    • rudimentary_lathe
    • 3 years ago

    Certainly looks appetizing – would look far more appetizing at 1440p though. I like that the aesthetics are subdued – some of us want the flexibility of using the same monitor for work and play and don’t want garish red or green plastic/LEDs all over the place.

    I may pick it up – outstanding questions:
    1. Will the screen rotate to landscape mode?
    2. What is the FreeSync range? (over HDMI or DP)
    3. What is the price and warranty coverage? (Was teased earlier this year at 449 euros IIRC, which is arguably too much for this feature set).
    4. How easy is it change the monitor input using the rear-mounted toggle? I tend to use the same monitors across two machines (one for work, one for play), and a rear-mounted toggle seems potentially tedious to operate on a regular basis.

    I’ve had good luck with Samsung monitors in the past, and this one checks a lot of boxes, so hopefully these questions are answered satisfactorily and the reviews are good.

    Why hasn’t anyone built a 1080p VA flat panel with this feature set? We seem to be moving to curved without flat having been perfected yet.

    • Chrispy_
    • 3 years ago

    Currently gaming on one of these 27″ VA 1080p screens. (The Freesync version of the 27″ Predator Z1)

    Yes, it’s low DPI but as a gamer that’s really not a problem and 1080p sure helps hit 144fps. By far the best thing is the unbelievably good black levels and complete lack of IPS glow.

    There is some visible artefacting from overdrive which is necessary since VA is so slow to change from 0 to <128 brightness, but it’s not really ever visible unless you are viewing a high-contrast scene where large amounts of it are pure black. white-on-black starfields in a space sim are just about the worst-case scenario and in Elite:Dangerous it’s only noticeable if you go out of your way to look for it.

    • just brew it!
    • 3 years ago

    Oooh! Shiny new tech buzzword!

      • morphine
      • 3 years ago

      I’ll argue that we’ve had quantum monitors for a while now.

      These days all monitors are quantum-enabled: you buy one, and until you open it, it both has and hasn’t backlight bleed issues.

      • Generic
      • 3 years ago

      New to monitors, maybe. QD televisions have been shipping since 2013.

      Or were you referring to MPRT?

        • Captain Ned
        • 3 years ago

        Schrodinger’s Cat.

        • Pwnstar
        • 3 years ago

        He was referring to MPRT.

    • Neutronbeam
    • 3 years ago

    I’d feel more relieved if we knew the prices…call it my quantum of solace.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 3 years ago

      I’ll just sit here and watch over the world from my Quantum of Solitude.

      No, wait, that’s not right

    • Captain Ned
    • 3 years ago

    Do they come with fire extinguishers?

      • ludi
      • 3 years ago

      “Realistic 3D explosion effects”

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