Poll: How are Kaby Lake and Ryzen shaping your PC-building plans?

Intel's Kaby Lake CPUs are out now, and AMD's Ryzen CPUs are slated for a first-quarter release. With those winds of change blowing, we figure it's time to see how the PC builders in our audience are making their plans for their next systems. Are you sticking with what you have? Did you already build a Kaby Lake PC? Or are you waiting for Ryzen no matter what? Let us know using the poll options below.

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    • Lordhawkwind
    • 3 years ago

    I’m one of the 3% who’ve already bought a Kaby Lake CPU (i7 7700K) Asus Z270 K Prime M/B and 16GB DDR4 2400 ram. I thought about waiting for Ryzen but with it being a new chip/chipset combo there could be early issues whereas KL is just a small bump from SL so all the wrinkles have already been ironed out. I’m not into spending a lot of time troubleshooting hardware issues so going KL just seemed the best option. I’m coming from a 5 year old SB 2500K clocked at 4.4Ghz.

    • marvelous
    • 3 years ago

    I’m waiting for Nintendo switch. I rather get that.

    • DeadOfKnight
    • 3 years ago

    It’s definitely an exciting time for those of us who do need a new PC this year. Currently I have a Lynnfield system that’s showing its age. I hadn’t considered switching to AMD until Ryzen benchmarks started to leak, and now I am watching it closely. It really comes down to how it fares on the obligatory TR “inside the second” benchmarks.

    If it does great, I may just go that route. If not, well, it should still do a lot to change Intel prices. The other thing I’ve been looking out for is the rumored socketed Skylake with eDRAM. Still no sign of it though, unfortunately. I’d love to see an i7-5775c successor. Maybe Intel is waiting to play that hand when AMD has played theirs? Only time will tell.

    Of course, the natural competitor for a chip like that would be the Raven Ridge APU releasing the second half of this year. That will give time for Vega and the 1080 Ti to release, for the price wars to slow down, and RAM prices to go back down.

    • Geonerd
    • 3 years ago

    Going to wait and see how it does.
    Then save my pennies and wait for the 8C/16T chip prices to soften a touch.
    By late 2017, I may have the $ and motivation to replace my trusty 6 core Phenom2.

    • Dysthymia
    • 3 years ago

    I built a primary and secondary gaming machines as well as a server on the Haswell platform in 2013. I went fairly high end, Z-series with 4770k on the primary, 4690 (non-k) on the secondary, and quad core on the server. Upgraded all to 16 GB of RAM. Planning on throwing Vega in both gaming machines this year… I’m hoping to hold out until at least 2019 before replacing them. But I do hope AMD is a good option when it’s time.

    • LoneWolf15
    • 3 years ago

    Sticking with Devil’s Canyon. Even decided a year back to max it to 32GB of DDR3 while the prices were rock bottom. Can’t think of a reason performance won’t be good enough for me for probably another two years, and it supports all of the extended VT features and such.

    • thedosbox
    • 3 years ago

    I’m not buying Ryzen unless it has an array of embeded RGB-LED’s.

      • chuckula
      • 3 years ago

      NEW IDEA: INSIDE THE SECOND RGB LED FRAME TIME ANALYSIS!

    • chuckula
    • 3 years ago

    The rumor mills at some less-reputable websites that I ain’t linking here are going nuts with some RyZen stuff that’s hopefully fake (for AMD’s sake).

    Stupid season is officially upon us!

      • K-L-Waster
      • 3 years ago

      That’s almost click-bait without the associated links.

      Did you just create… Google-Fu bait?

    • travbrad
    • 3 years ago

    I’m more interested in Vega and whatever Nvidia has to offer at that time. GTX970 is way more of a bottleneck than my 6700K right now.

    • TheMonkeyKing
    • 3 years ago

    How about another choice, as in “My car died, no new PCs for me this year.”
    🙁

      • K-L-Waster
      • 3 years ago

      Sounds like “I’m sticking with my current PC, personal tragedy edition.”

    • SoulSlave
    • 3 years ago

    Here in Brazil AMD somehow maintained the value proposition over the last few years, still the whole “60% of the target performance for 50% of the price” couldn’t keep them relevant even here, recession and all.

    In the local DIY market only the most die hard fans would buy AMD, a market Intel ostensibly neglected until mid 2000’s (right around the time Core2 came) so it’s no surprise that AMD still caters to a lot of fans down here.

    And in the servers business they all but vanished, I can’t get a hold of an AMD server not even if I wanted to. Of course it makes perfect sense, there is no “value segment” in the server market, no company in it’s right mind would buy an slower, hotter server only to save a few bucks.

    Still, it would be nice to see them returning to it’s former glory, or at least close to it. Intel is clearly comfortable in her (is this the right pronoun?) situation, so much so that she isn’t moving her sorry ass of the couch despite having it handed back to her by all the ARM dominating the low power segments. There is simply too much revenue coming from another market segment for them to care to truly innovate.

    So should AMD bring something remarkable to the table, even if somewhat in moderate success, maybe it would prompt Intel to up their game a little…

    Who knows…

    P.S.: Hope my english is not too rusty.

      • davidbowser
      • 3 years ago

      Your English is WAY better than my Portuguese.

      “Passa a bola!” is pretty much the only thing I have had to use in real life. 🙂

        • SoulSlave
        • 3 years ago

        Huehuehuehue! 😉

        Thanks!

        And don’t worry, “Passa a bola!” is a perfectly viable response to a lot of answers!

    • Village
    • 3 years ago

    Still rocking my i7-930 @ 3.6ghz and a 7870. Starting to feel the will to upgrade, but not really the need. So far, I’m still able to pull off playing Civ VI, Xcom 2 and even Total War. I feel like I’m still probably better served just upgrading to a Radeon 470 or 480 depending on what I want to spend.

      • jokinin
      • 3 years ago

      Keeping my stock clocked i5 3550 (3.3 GHz base/3.7 turbo), I upgraded to a GTX 1060 6GB OC, from a Radeon HD7870 2GB GHz edition.
      Most games have doubled or tripled the performance, allowing me to turn up detail to maximum @1080p and still getting very nice performance.

    • Ifalna
    • 3 years ago

    Owning a 3570K @4.6 GHz / 1070 setup, I see no reason to upgrade within the next 4 years (unless sth. goes “poof”).

    • ET3D
    • 3 years ago

    I’ve been waiting to upgrade my HTPC to Bristol Ridge for about a year now (since the A10-7860K came out).

    • vikas.sm
    • 3 years ago

    Waiting for Naples. I don’t need a 32 core 1.8GHz CPU, But it will definitely push more xeons into the used market, at delightfully reduced prices 🙂
    DDR4 prices will likely go up too, But one can always buy a Xeon E5 V1/V2/V3.
    (The only game I play is CS:GO which should work well even on those 835 snapdragons)

    • Gleamor
    • 3 years ago

    I already built an Intel based PC with a i5 6600k and GTX 1070, quite frankly I was unimpressed compared to what I saw at CES. AMD’s new offerings have me drinking the Kool Aid for sure.
    As soon as they put Ryzen and Vega on the street i’ll be ready for it.
    And based on what I’ve seen so far…I would be better off with an AMD FX current gen than spend money on even the fastest Intel has to offer from the Kaby Lake line. Its not just a money thing at all, but overall performance.

    As a side note, on each and every CPU I’ve tested, using the same software, same version, as one of the most popular CPU comparison websites for benchmarking. I hate to say it but its just not accurate, I find if I compare Intel to AMD it will invariably favor Intel. However the benchmarks are typically way off or skewed. Make your own choice of how you join the PC Master Race, just remember too keep your receipts, make sure you have a return policy you can rely on, and everything on the internet is NOT true.

    Oh and don’t forget, don’t feed the trolls

    • Klimax
    • 3 years ago

    Waiting for Skylake-E. And hopefully Intel won’t go bonkers on pricing of 10-core this time.

    • Ninjitsu
    • 3 years ago

    Frankly it’ll be far cheaper for me to de-lid my i5 4690K than to get a new thing. That DDR4 performance in Arma tho.

    • ultima_trev
    • 3 years ago

    Was planning to build around either a 6C12T or 8C16T Ryzen SKU +GTX 1080 Ti/Vega and delegate my i5 6600K+GTX 1080 system as an HTPC however now that I’m stuck with a five figure hospital bill it will probably be at least another year and a half. At least this way I can now wait for them to work out any errata that exists.

    • hkuspc40
    • 3 years ago

    Sittin on a 4790k… I won’t upgrade until my gaming is limited by the cpu…

    • mark84
    • 3 years ago

    Already being on Intels HEDT platform with a 6850K there’s basically no point in upgrading (sidegrading?) to Ryzen or Kaby lake. I’ve more cores than Kaby and from early reports similar grunt per core to Ryzen anyway.

    So not much point for me at this stage.

    If/when AMD do a Ryzen 2 or whatever their new refresh line up will be called in a year or two’s time I’ll be looking at more thoroughly.

    • sophisticles
    • 3 years ago

    I was going to build a Ryzen based system for video work and even had $500 put aside since last year for a cpu/MB/ram combo but after extensive testing with my GTX960 and encoding using nvenc via ffmpeg on Ubuntu I’m convinced that I’m better off spending about $115 to buy a mini1050, and maybe buy some cheap spinning rust and set up 2 raid 0 arrays, I currently have a couple of SSD’s but I am not convinced that they are the best from a reliability standpoint.

    Part of me is tempted to buy a cheap off lease server with dual cpu’s and lots of ram, my tests with a 10gb ram drive on Ubuntu has me pretty solidly convinced that better than an SSD is a massive ram drive and some traditional hard disks in a raid 0.

    Or maybe I’ll win the SB pool I’m in (the pay out is pretty nice) and then change my mind.

    • Pancake
    • 3 years ago

    I’m in the market for a new PC. For my workload, currently 4 threads (i5-3570) needs 32GB (which allows a few GB spare for Eclipse, web browser, foreground stuff etc) and runs comfortably with 4-year old SATA SSD which has got all my work data.

    To go to 16 threads I’ll need 128GB and recent NVMe SSD to properly scale without bottlenecks. My code is traversing fairly sparse data structures so should be a good fit for 8C/16T Ryzen so eagerly awaiting detailed benchmarks but despite cautious optimism am prepared to be disappointed.

    Poll suggestion – Ryzen vs Intel performance:
    * Ryzen will be price-performance competitive
    * Ryzen will be owned and forced to run humiliating benchmarks
    * Ryzen will be kicked to the kerb
    * Ryzen will be savagely bullied and run home to mummy in tears

    I think those are the most realistic options.

    • jihadjoe
    • 3 years ago

    That news about AMD having Windows 7 drivers for Ryzen has me very happy.

    • BobbinThreadbare
    • 3 years ago

    My FX-6350 is starting to constrain me a little bit as is my 8gigs of ram.

    As long as Ryzen is price competitive and the motherboards don’t suck, I’ll be upgrading to one.

    • Prototyped
    • 3 years ago

    Thing is, I find myself using my IVB laptop most of the time. I don’t game, and the most strenuous thing I do with my equipment is transcoding video, a couple of times a year, and my laptop with its four year old dual core, quad thread is already better at encoding HEVC (due to SSE4 being present) than my desktop built around a Phenom II X6 six core K10 from six years ago. (The latter can still transcode twice as many VP9 videos in the same timeframe with a little worse bitrate than HEVC.)

    So I’m a little reluctant to upgrade my desktop PC, and I’ve only had the IVB laptop for maybe two years (used ThinkPad T430). So I think I’ll wait a bit longer, though I do find myself wishing my desktop PC had USB 3.0. (Crappy micro ATX board where the only PCI express x1 slot is obscured by a dual slot width graphics card, so I can’t even use my NEC USB 3.0 adapter. 🙁 ). So when I upgrade, it’ll probably be for platform improvements like NVMe, USB 3.1, QuickSync or equivalent, and the like, rather than moar powar.

      • DancinJack
      • 3 years ago

      FWIW, if you’re specifically talking Quicksync, that’s only Intel.

        • Prototyped
        • 3 years ago

        Or equivalent. 🙂

    • kvndoom
    • 3 years ago

    Sticking with my Haswell i5 until MS unplugs the ventilator on Windows 7 in 2020. Then I’ll see what’s out there and build a new rig.

    • Kougar
    • 3 years ago

    Even if Ryzen performed as good as Kaby Lake with better prices, the performance won’t be justification enough to get me to build an entirely new PC. Will be holding onto my Haswell rig for a few more years and by then hopefully there will be some real performance upgrades from a new CPU.

    My only building plans are for a new GPU as my 750 Ti is a tad limited for1600p gaming…

    • ronch
    • 3 years ago

    I think, even without voting one can already pretty much predict what the results would be. Either you’re waiting for Zen no matter what, wait and see, or holding on to what you already have. I voted the last option but it’s still ultimately very much the first option unless Zen totally bombs. I mean, I’d have to buy a new rig sooner or later.

    • dragosmp
    • 3 years ago

    I’m looking forward to see how the quad Ryzen is compared to the HT-enabled Kaby Pentiums and i3s…and to my old trusty Ph II X4.

    • sircharles32
    • 3 years ago

    How about “none of the above”.
    I won’t be building a Ryzen CPU system, until I can rationalize it.
    The cost will be too great (CPU/MB/memory/OS license): That’s probably going to be around $500.

    Now, with that said, what Ryzen will do for me, is that it should lower the cost of the FX-8350, which is a drop in upgrade on my pre-existing Phenom II system (Already upgraded the BIOS to the compatible level necessary). Since I do a fair amount of video encoding/transcoding, I’d expect to still get a substantial bump in performance, just form that. I’m not a big gamer, these days, and “every day” tasks are already fast enough for me.

    We need a few more options in this poll.

      • RAGEPRO
      • 3 years ago

      Your option is “I’m sticking with my current PC”.

        • sircharles32
        • 3 years ago

        Technically, it’s not.
        See, I’d actually be upgrading it.
        If I was sticking with my current PC, I’d upgrade nothing.

        See the difference? I can.

          • RAGEPRO
          • 3 years ago

          Well that brings up an interesting and vaguely eschatological question. At what point does an upgraded PC stop being the same PC?

            • Ninjitsu
            • 3 years ago

            Evolution, man. It creeps up on you. One day you’ll wake up a cyborg, dammit!

    • Goty
    • 3 years ago

    Given that I’m still running my i7 920, even the Ryzen demo performance would be more than enough for me. Considering that I don’t see any way AMD won’t be at least price-competitive with Intel, I’ll almost certainly be building a Ryzen system for my next box.

      • LostCat
      • 3 years ago

      I just switched back to my i7 920 after some slightly embarrassing testing. (Until recently I didn’t know it even still worked.)

      Yeah, Ryzen should definitely be a huge upgrade. Though I could’ve built a 6600K already so I’m itching to build.

    • ermo
    • 3 years ago

    Vega is higher on my list than RyZen.

    • JosiahBradley
    • 3 years ago

    Highest end Ryzen on custom water OC’d to the moon with highest end Vega in crossfire incoming.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 3 years ago

      You will simply have to post pics.

    • Duct Tape Dude
    • 3 years ago

    A 5.5+GHz 1C/2T SKU on either KBL or Zen would have my undivided attention. DO IT, AMD. DO IT.

    • Ochadd
    • 3 years ago

    Where’s the “Waiting for Skylake-X” option? I refuse to buy another quad core CPU. I’m on my third already. Q6600, Q9550, and 2600k. Think I’ll buy a 1080 ti or AMDs latest and greatest this summer and see how the Ryzen vs. Skylake -E or X shapes up.

    Edit: Actually I’ve been through 4 quad cores as I forgot about a Phenom II @ 3ghz that was in there somewhere. Getting old… 🙁

    • stdRaichu
    • 3 years ago

    Currently got an IVB CPU in a [url=http://www.streacom.com/products/fc5-alpha-fanless-chassis/<]sweet ass-passively* cooled case[/url<] that I use as an HTPC; I've been wanting to bump up it's graphics capability for a while so I can do some light gaming on the telly (the intel stuff is OK for almsot everything [and I have a lot of 2D games] but quickly runs out of steam on most 3D stuff). So I'd been holding out hope for either a price drop on the old Iris Pro CPUs (nope) or some Iris graphics coming out for a modern mITX platform, neither to any avail. As such I hoping that Ryzen proves decent enough that I can stuff an AM4 APU into this case and get some good-enough GPU grunt. As long as it'll fit into the chassis and isn't any more power-hungry than the IVB I'll be happy. [url=https://xkcd.com/37/<]*[/url<]

    • DancinJack
    • 3 years ago

    No respect for the days of yore. Another poll missing the cheese option.

    Shameful.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 3 years ago

      “Buffalo”
      —Jeff Kampman, The Tech Report (original [url=https://techreport.com/news/31372/poll-how-are-kaby-lake-and-ryzen-shaping-your-pc-building-plans?post=1019432#1019432<]here[/url<]) ------------ Pretend the last option is "My current PC is gouda 'nough for me"

        • deruberhanyok
        • 3 years ago

        I keep hitting the thumbs up but it’s only letting me do +1.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 3 years ago

          I bet Bruno could help you out.

          • tritonus
          • 3 years ago

          Only $32 subscription to get triple cheezy upvotes!

        • Eggrenade
        • 3 years ago

        My current PC is quite the Muenster already.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 3 years ago

          THAT’S HOWYA DO IT!

            • Shobai
            • 3 years ago

            “Hell’ll be /very/ Colby for I upgrade”?

            “The performance would have to be pretty top notch before I’d Edam consider it”?

            • K-L-Waster
            • 3 years ago

            These arguments have more holes in them than… well, you know.

        • CScottG
        • 3 years ago

        Brie there, done that.

        • DancinJack
        • 3 years ago

        I set you up so well. I think fifteen percent of your current votes should be allocated to me 🙂

          • derFunkenstein
          • 3 years ago

          sounds fair. I gave you three.

        • Mr Bill
        • 3 years ago

        I havarti a pretty good PC.

      • tipoo
      • 3 years ago

      Purportedly it went mouldy.

      • Kougar
      • 3 years ago

      Fixed for you:
      [list<] [*<]I'm grilling a Ryzen PC with extra cheese [/*<][*<]I'm waiting to see if Ryzen will be a chip off the old block [/*<][*<]I already spent the cheddar on a Kaby Lake PC [/*<][*<]I'm aging my parmesan for Kaby Lake [/*<][*<]I need those quad slices of sharp memory [/*<][*<]This Ryzen ES chip is notcho bad [/*<][*<]My current PC is gouda 'nough for me [/*<] [/list<] (with cred to derFunkenstein for the last one!)

      • ludi
      • 3 years ago

      [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1zL13LvxS8[/url<]

      • LoneWolf15
      • 3 years ago

      I Camembert the last time they had that in the polls, it’s been so long.

    • Chrispy_
    • 3 years ago

    Kaby’s made a huge change to the low end.
    Giving the Kaby Pentiums basically makes them an i3 instead.

    The G4560 in particular is basically a half-price i3-6100 with a different label on the box for most uses. Gaming performance tests show it at 97-100% the speed of the 6100 and if you’re gaming you don’t even care about the IGP anyway.

    Anything needing more than a general-purpose 2C/4T build and I’m waiting to see how well Ryzen delivers. You’d be crazy not to, given the unatractive pricing comb of Kaby markup and new 200-series boards markup.

    Thinking about it, the i5-7600K, a decent cooler and a Z270 board must be the worst value product I’ve seen in a while. You only get four threads but you’re forking out over $500 for a CPU, midrange AIO cooler and Z270 motherboard. If you crank everything up to full you’ll get 5GHz if you’re lucky. On the other hand, the G4560 with a stock cooler and a B250 board is only going to set you back $125 and it’ll be 70% the performance for 20% the cost. Those $400 can buy you a GPU worth talking about.

      • hasseb64
      • 3 years ago

      who BUILDS a low end?
      Buy a 300 EUR shitty laptop if you want low end, screen for free!

        • DPete27
        • 3 years ago

        Desktops have the ability to use decent graphics cards.
        In my experience, a LOT of people build low end desktops for gaming. I don’t think I’ve ever been given a budget over $700 USD for a desktop build. Most of them are $500 or less for the tower.

        • Chrispy_
        • 3 years ago

        A 3.5GHz G4560 is probably comparable in CPU performance to the i7 in a $1500 ultrabook, and as DPete27 points out, you can easily and cheaply slot a GPU into a low end desktop to turn it into a gaming machine, something a €300 laptop will never be able to do.

        • ozzuneoj
        • 3 years ago

        Tech Report does?
        [url<]https://techreport.com/review/31119/the-tech-report-system-guide-december-2016-edition/8[/url<] Knock ~$50 off the price of the Budget Box by getting a newer G4560 and you'll have nearly identical performance. That's a system that is well into the "mid range" for barely $500 (plus OS). You'd be hard pressed to find many laptops that can come close to that, and since its custom built you have tons of upgrade options in the future.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 3 years ago

          Better yet, that $50 will get you most of the way towards adding a 240/256GB SSD. Baby Lake on the low end is a pretty great thing right now.

            • DPete27
            • 3 years ago

            I really wanna upgrade my A8-5600K HTPC to a G4560 or similar Kaby Lake Pentium because they’re so awesome. Not sure if I can convince the wife though. The A8 is doing its duties just fine.

            • Chrispy_
            • 3 years ago

            Time for some ‘accidental’ clumsiness if you have the itch 😉

      • Nav
      • 3 years ago

      That’s a great point! Would bottlenecking be a concern if you were to pair the G4560 with a GTX1070?

        • Chrispy_
        • 3 years ago

        Depends on the game; an overclocked 7700K at 5GHz can still be the bottleneck in some games. In other games the GPU does all the work and even an AMD processor can keep up.

        The GTX1070 is so expensive compared to the G4560 that I’d say that was an imbalanced build; but let’s put it this way – if you had a [b<]very strict, fixed $600 budget[/b<] to spend on CPU+BOARD+GPU, you could get one of the following two configs: [list<][*<]G4560 + B250 board for $125 and GTX1070 for $375, $100 spare change \o/[/*<][*<]7600K + Z270 board + CM EVO 212 for $400 and an entry-level 1060 3GB for $200[/*<][/list<] The Pentium/1070 rig is going to walk all over the i5/1060 rig in the vast majority of games, and you still save a hundred bucks and you won't need to replace the 1070 anytime soon but the 3GB 1060 will be struggling with only 3GB in the not-too-distant future.

      • vikas.sm
      • 3 years ago

      Intel must be getting ready for the low end 😀

      • MOSFET
      • 3 years ago

      [quote<]Thinking about it, the i5-7600K, a decent cooler and a Z270 board must be the worst value product I've seen in a while. [/quote<] Thanks, I just switched to a 7600K on Z270, although the watercooler is reused from FX-8320. I'm getting quite a bit more performance for so many less watts, so many less, which was the entire goal. The fun part is seeing how much faster it is. The peaceful easy feeling is looking at the power meter. (Oh, and the clockspeed is there for the taking. What would you like to run your CPU at today, sir?)

      • HERETIC
      • 3 years ago

      Going by this-
      [url<]http://www.techspot.com/review/1325-intel-pentium-g4560/page4.html[/url<] A 1050Ti is a perfect match for a Pentium. Perhaps a cut down 3GB 1060 might be OK. wouldn't go any higher.

    • LostCat
    • 3 years ago

    Still planning to transfer most of these parts into a new case with Zen, 16gb, and an M.2 NVMe drive. Don’t know how long it’ll take me to build though, since I don’t know how much Zen will cost.

    • Misel
    • 3 years ago

    Built a new rig just last year. Though Vega and RyZen would be a HUGE improvement to my FX8350 and R9 290X … it’s still not enough to shell out more money.

    Well… maybe things change when I see the prices 🙂

      • DPete27
      • 3 years ago

      Oof, you built an FX8350 last year? You should’ve come to TRs System Builders Anonymous forum so they could talk you off that cliff.

        • Geonerd
        • 3 years ago

        Why do you assume he needs your, or anyone’s, help?
        Depending on his prior system and budget, an FX isn’t necessarily such an absurd option.
        Think like a Gerbil, not a Lemming! 😉

    • chuckula
    • 3 years ago

    So who are the other 5 people with the RyZen engineering samples?
    I want to compare notes.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 3 years ago

      I bet one of them used to work here. #dramaticMusic

        • chuckula
        • 3 years ago

        Yes, but we all know SSK will never talk!

          • alloyD
          • 3 years ago

          [quote<]SSK will never talk![/quote<] Think about what you just said.

            • LocalCitizen
            • 3 years ago

            SSK stopped talking after he got that keyboard without caps lock key.

    • Dizzytaz00
    • 3 years ago

    I’m still waiting to see how AMD preforms & not to thrilled on chipset features that heard & seen online. BTW: most of my new configured setup with intel . NOW! i’m playing the waiting see game. Still think of bring back to life my ph2 955 black for a little fun build.

    • [+Duracell-]
    • 3 years ago

    I’ll likely get the 8c/16t version if it’s not too expensive. I can always sell my 6700K or use it for a new build (GF’s gaming PC or maybe a server of some sort).

    • Devils41
    • 3 years ago

    So “I went with a Broadwell-E” last month and replaced an Ivy Bridge i7. Even though the upgrade didn’t offer much in terms of IPC the extra c/t did help a lot with rendering times. Also, I got a deal I could not refuse on a 6800K.

    • Khali
    • 3 years ago

    I have yet to see a reason to upgrade from my i5-3570k running at 4GHz. Sure, more cores/threads would be nice for running Distributed Computing projects but other than that I don’t see much of a need/want. The latest generation of CPU’s do not run much, if at all, faster than my i5. I don’t see where any other improvements in CPU’s would do much for me in my day to day use. Games, web surfing, DC projects, and maybe a video or two.

    If I do anything it will be upgrading the GPU and adding in some more storage. Maybe a better monitor.

    • christos_thski
    • 3 years ago

    I needed a new secondary gaming PC, and I’m keen on Ryzen, but the prices on used 2500Ks on ebay were too enticing for me to wait (plus, I got to use old DDR3 ram that I had, usually idling on my main rig).

    If I was building my main PC I think I’d sit it out and wait for Ryzen. But for a secondary gaming rig, I didn’t feel I would sacrifice all that much going with a 2500k on the cheap.

    • Kretschmer
    • 3 years ago

    Instead of building new, I’m going to switch my Ivy-Bridge i5 to a closed loop cooler and overclock it a bit. 2017’s performance from 2012’s chip!

    • Sargent Duck
    • 3 years ago

    My Ivy Bridge/Radeon 7870 box is pretty old and I was thinking of upgrading it.

    Then I bought a house last year and spent too much on reno’s. Then I planned for a ski trip this year. Then I got suckered into a more expensive ski trip at the end of this year. New computer will have to wait till 2018 when I get some free cash.

    • Prestige Worldwide
    • 3 years ago

    Waiting to see how Zen shapes up, but most likely will be waiting for a 6C 12T i7 on mainstream Coffee Lake in 2018.

    • tipoo
    • 3 years ago

    Kaby Lake – no impact on building a PC, but h.265 decode in hardware is nice for laptops.

    Ryzen – interested, waiting and seeing. Not expecting anything past IVB IPC to keep my hopes in check.

    • south side sammy
    • 3 years ago

    I was going to build a new 2017 rig, was actually thrilled to build a competitive AMD machine, but with the price of ram TWICE the price as it was 5 month’s ago………… forget it! It’s just nuts. I have 2 lower end machines that would be fine with 4gigs of 1333 each and I just won’t spend the money……..
    I’ll buy drives, I have most of them already ) and clone my current machines and set them aside for emergency, buy a new higher end graphics card for my current gamer and catch up on some smaller hardware purchases. ( drives are reasonable now for some reason )
    Kaby Lake sucks. just another rip off of what came before it. and my next build WILL be AMD, not too soon though.

    • NTMBK
    • 3 years ago

    Where’s the “I already built a Skylake system” button? It’s not like Kabylake really offers anything.

      • Growler
      • 3 years ago

      This is where I’m at. I might upgrade my GPU in the next year, but the 6600K is still good for while yet.

      • mcnabney
      • 3 years ago

      Required for UHD playback

        • Pwnstar
        • 3 years ago

        LOL, you’re funny.

        UHD is 4K and 8K. I can download 4K video right now, no Bluray player needed in the slightest.

        So like I said, funny.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 3 years ago

      It’s the last option.

      • cobalt
      • 3 years ago

      That’s me — I built a Skylake system a month ago, after we knew that Kaby Lake was no improvement and while Skylake was on sale. (Really, my OC’d 2500K was basically fine, but I desperately needed an OS re-install. Yes, that’s my actual excuse.)

      And no, new hardware-based DRM doesn’t count as an improvement.

      • Spyrano
      • 3 years ago

      Yup, my position as well. Maybe a new GPU in a couple years, but everything else is fine for a while.

    • K-L-Waster
    • 3 years ago

    At this point my choices are “If RyZen is awesome I’m making one, otherwise sticking with my Haswell”. Skylake and Kaby Lake aren’t compelling enough to make me want to upgrade.

      • dodozoid
      • 3 years ago

      Same here, except its Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell

    • chuckula
    • 3 years ago

    Hrmm… Jeff is letting on a little too much here.

    Time for the NDA [s<]canary[/s<] [u<]buffalo[/u<] to come out of retirement. BEGIN PROJECT BUFFALO2: RYZEN BOOGALOO. The rules are simple. To confirm that Jeff has his Ryzenified miracle review chip, all he has to do is NOT post "buffalo" to the thread, and therefore no NDA is broken by not making an affirmative statement. SHAZAM!

      • Jeff Kampman
      • 3 years ago

      Buffalo.

        • Anonymous Coward
        • 3 years ago

        Dunno, are we case sensitive here? This man is slippery.

          • TheMonkeyKing
          • 3 years ago

          And OP had it underlined too. I’ve settled less difficult cases with the Devil.

        • chuckula
        • 3 years ago

        Ah snap.

        THE BUFFALO WILL RIDE AGAIN!

        • derFunkenstein
        • 3 years ago

        Bummer.

        • anotherengineer
        • 3 years ago

        [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4T9CQA0UM[/url<]

        • Captain Ned
        • 3 years ago

        Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

        • Chrispy_
        • 3 years ago

        [quote=”chuckula”<]To confirm that Jeff has his Ryzenified miracle review chip, all he has to do is NOT post "buffalo" to the thread[/quote<] [quote="Jeff Kampman"<]Buffalo.[/quote<] All I see here is that Jeff hasn't confirmed he has a review sample [i<]yet[/i<]. Project: Buffalo isn't over until the NDA lifts!

          • chuckula
          • 3 years ago

          I want the top comments section to be four posts from Jeff saying buffalo.

            • Chrispy_
            • 3 years ago

            Oh, I have one at the moment on +29 Let me ninja edit my comment.

            • Chrispy_
            • 3 years ago

            OK, done.

            Ben Funk, I pass you the torch.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 3 years ago

            We did it!

            • drfish
            • 3 years ago

            Buffalol.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 3 years ago

            you seem to have gotteen your wish.

        • [+Duracell-]
        • 3 years ago

        [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N98P3O4wbEY<]Buffalo?[/url<]

    • JalaleenRumi
    • 3 years ago

    Selecting the ‘Im waiting to see how Ryzen shapes up’ and see 100% results, I was surprised that everyone has the same opinion as me. But then I saw it was only 1 vote. So… 🙁

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