Opera Day Shortbread

Eight is Enough

  1. Neowin on Project Neon: Microsoft provides a glimpse

    of new Windows 10 ‘Redstone wave’ UX changes

  2. VR-Zone: AMD 8-core Ryzen benchmark

    shows up on Ashes of the Singularity database

  3. WCCFtech: The DragonBoard 820c is world’s

    first Snapdragon 820-based computer

  4. Engadget: Android Wear 2.0 was worth the long wait
  5. Fast Company: Here’s why Apple’s 10th Anniversary

    iPhone will likely cost more than $1,000

  6. SamMobile: Samsung’s upcoming Windows 10

    tablet might feature an Intel U-Series processor

  7. OpenSignal’s State of Mobile Networks: USA (February 2017)
  8. Ars Technica’s analysis: PS4 Pro’s “Boost

    Mode” bumps frame rates up to 38%


Opera Day

  1. Tech ARP’s AMD FreeSync 2 Q&A with David Glen & Syed Hussain
  2. InfoWorld: Mozilla binds Firefox’s fate to the Rust language

Mobile

  1. GSMArena: 5G gets a new logo, becomes

    official name of the mobile future

  2. GSMArena’s Huawei Mate 9 Pro hands-on

Hardware

  1. Project Build: Crush – part 3 at LanOC Reviews
  2. Phoronix tests Celeron / Pentium / Core i3 / i5 / i7 –

    Nvidia vs. AMD Linux gaming performance

  3. Funky Kit pits Pentium G4560 vs. 6600K vs. 7600K
  4. Ocaholic’s Asus Maximus IX Formula review
  5. TweakTown on MSI’s Z270 XPower Gaming Titanium motherboard
  6. TweakTown’s Logitech G213 Prodigy RGB keyboard review
  7. KitGuru’s Corsair K95 RGB Platinum keyboard review
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    • techguy
    • 3 years ago

    Re: PS4 Pro Boost Mode analysis

    You have labeled this as “Ars Technica’s analysis” when in fact it is Digital Foundry’s analysis which they are discussing. Credit goes where it’s due.

    • Paine
    • 3 years ago

    Oh no – my ancient Intel 5930 only has six cores. Time to throw it away and get the new AMD 8-core. It might help me watch my movies faster in VLC, saving me a lot of time!

      • Goty
      • 3 years ago

      Says the guy who bought a 5930 to watch movies in VLC?

      • chuckula
      • 3 years ago

      Step 1: BUY RYZEN X1800X PRO!
      Step 2: OVERCLOCK
      Step 3: DO THIS: [url<]https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-increase-playback-speed-in-VLC-2-1-3-the-current-version[/url<] Step 4: THERE IS NO STEP 4!

      • brucethemoose
      • 3 years ago

      You jest, but SVP can eat a 5930 for breakfast.

      Some fancy denoisers/deinterlacers can too.

      Of course, you shouldn’t be using VLC with those kinds of things…

      • raddude9
      • 3 years ago

      You said “movies”, so exactly how many movies do you have to be watching at the same time that you can max out a 5930?

    • tipoo
    • 3 years ago

    Looks like the PS4 Boost mode is consistent with the clock speed increase alone, not the doubling of CUs. I wonder what happens with bandwidth.

    It would look like GNM is lower level than DX12 to me, as they’ve been so paranoid about even minor clock changes with a toggle option, while Microsoft just boosted all games with the XBO Slims minor clock increase. Might make the Scorpio easier, while Sony may get a bit more out of the same hardware.

    • NovusBogus
    • 3 years ago

    Opera is a decent alternative to Firefox if that Rust thing doesn’t work out. I’m more of a Vivaldi guy, but I really want at least one of the two to move out of Google’s shadow and have some of their own tech worth caring about again.

      • ronch
      • 3 years ago

      I used to totally love Opera during the Presto days but moved to Chrome when it became a Chrome clone because it felt sparse and IIRC kinda slow. But that was a long time ago and I need to check it out again soon.

      • raddude9
      • 3 years ago

      I really hope the Rust thing works out though. It’s an awesome language, still a bit immature IMO, but it’s got a lot of potential. It’s particularly good for writing multi-threaded code in a safe way, which is something that we need more of in these increasingly multi-core times.

    • chuckula
    • 3 years ago

    [quote<]VR-Zone: AMD 8-core Ryzen benchmark shows up on Ashes of the Singularity database[/quote<] Oh you better hope that's fake (and I'm assuming it is, those things are easy to fake). Furthermore, VR-zone has apparently caught a bad case of WCCF-itis because it makes an easily verifiably wrong statement in pretending that these score are somehow amazingly better than an 8 core Haswell. They aren't. They aren't even better than a 6 core Ivy Bridge. Because this is up on their official website using the purportedly anti-innovation Haswell CPU and the same GPU: [url<]http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse-base#/personas/feef3c33-366f-4df3-8364-ccbb6eeeaf77/match-details/a99b2aa7-fe31-4a33-8f1e-a76a00c7a4eb[/url<] But that's not the best one... here's a 6 core Ivy Bridge, also available at their website: [url<]http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse-base#/personas/6f972d40-d80c-4824-9f3d-5f751df92892/match-details/63fe5ded-3264-4126-86e3-a34b213b0455[/url<] Before anybody grabs different results to claim that RyZen is destroying everybody: 1. Don't post "escalation" results, that's not the same benchmark... look carefully at the Software Version and if it isn't "1.50.24210.0" then don't post it because you don't want to compare apples to hand grenades. 2. Given the fact that we've removed the GPU from the equation in those results, look carefully at the actual "CPU" frame rates. Don't let the relatively close overall scores -- which are heavily weighted towards the GPU that is identical in all these results -- fool you. 3. Bonus points for any AMD fanboy who attacks AoTS as being a pro-Intel/Ngreedia propaganda tool while throwing last year's battlecry of ASYNC COMPUTE down the memory hole. 4. The moral of the story: When you fake benchmark results to build hype, at least try to look at what was already publicly posted so your numbers look impressive. 5. I of course welcome the downthumbs from the AMD squad who have nothing intelligent to say and would rather spend the rest of their lives watching Lisa Su talk about RyZen than actually hear anything about it in the real world. But just ask yourself this: Why was AoTS such an amazing game back when Raj relied on it as the sole example of the Rx 480 being an awesome GPU but for some inexplicable reason this amazing DX12 Async-enabled miracle game was wholly absent from kool-aid time with Lisa Su?

      • juzz86
      • 3 years ago

      It is sobering to see WTFTech go from a known bulls**t-spouting site to a ‘reputable outlet’ for news pieces – and TR is not alone in bolstering their legitimacy claim, by a long shot.

      I know there’s money in being first, but surely when half your sites content is rubbish you sit back and say ‘maybe we’ll just see what’s said about this, first’.

        • ronch
        • 3 years ago

        WCCF is like a branch prediction unit that just goes on and on making predictions, like throwing smelly pieces of underwear on a wall and seeing which ones stick and which ones fall off. And if they’re wrong, hey, just flush the pipeline. People love cheap rumors, they’ll keep coming back, they must think. And as long as they get money through banner ads (and other ways best left to speculation), they’ll be fine.

          • nico1982
          • 3 years ago

          [quote<]WCCF is like a branch prediction unit[/quote<] ROTFLMAO

            • juzz86
            • 3 years ago

            Hahaha!

            I dunno if you guys have heard of, or remember Jason Mick from DailyTech, that site AnandTech used to plug all the time, but WTFTech reminds me of him amplified a few times over.

      • brucethemoose
      • 3 years ago

      To be fair, we don’t know the clockspeed of any of those chips. That aside, you are right.

      Hence, we’ll just have to wait for reviews…

        • juzz86
        • 3 years ago

        Correct mate – a glaring omission in AotS’ benchmark reports since inception.

        The thing that immediately stood out to me as I browsed the benchmark selection was that a Fury-based rig wins the overall ‘4K Crazy’ top spot. How many Furies? What clocks? What CPU clocks on the 5960x that hosts it/them?

        It’s news because they found the name in a list. There’s not much legitimate about it, and even the name may not be.

        Clutching at straws to also mention that because it was paired with a Titan X, it is probably an AIB or reviewer, too.

        So much wrong with this ‘piece’. It does its job though, obviously – we’ve gotten our panties in a bunch over it, for sure. Hook, line and sinker 🙂

      • oldog
      • 3 years ago

      AMDs share price has gone from a buck and change one year ago to $13.50 a share today.

      Facinating.

        • Redocbew
        • 3 years ago

        Yeah, because everyone knows any reason that makes the stock price start ryzen is a good reason.

      • Redocbew
      • 3 years ago

      The thing I’m looking forward to most about the Ryzen launch is to see an end to isolated test results involving AoTS which everyone goes berserk over in one way or another. AoTS is their golden hammer, and it’s not much more than an AMD tech demo dressed up to look like a real game. Ok, we get it, really.

      • raddude9
      • 3 years ago

      Hypocrite confirmed!

      [quote<]VR-zone has apparently caught a bad case of WCCF-itis[/quote<] Close, but it's much worse than that, VR-zone are actually re-posting a story that originated on Wccftech a week ago: [url<]http://wccftech.com/amd-ashes-ryzen-4-0-ghz-benchmarks/[/url<] Note the exact same screenshot (that originated on a forum post) being used as "evidence". Now, we all know what you think about people who link to wccftech from this post: [url<]https://techreport.com/news/31388/rumor-amd-ryzen-cpu-lineup-leaks-with-six-core-models-in-tow?post=1020110#1020110[/url<] where you said: [quote<]Oh look, you linked to Wccftech when trying to pretend that you actually have a clue about anything. You lose. Thanks for playing.[/quote<] Now here you are doing the pretty much the same thing because this time it just happens to fit into you intel fanboi "world view". I'll finish by updating your words... Oh look, you spent time analyzing a VR-Zone reposting of a 6-day old Wccftech "story" when trying to pretend that you actually have a clue about anything. You lose. Thanks for playing.

        • chuckula
        • 3 years ago

        Dear Douchenozzle:
        I see you like link to Wccftech by yourself without any prompting and then accuse me of relying on stories at Wccftech as being factually accurate.

        When 1. I only mentioned the disease of “Wccf-itis” as it applies to the standards are VR-zone dropping through the floor by posting complete fantasy B.S. as factually accurate information and then making flatly wrong conclusions that aren’t even consistent with the B.S. source material.
        2. I never linked to wccftech at all: You did.
        3. I only mentioned their name because they are the poster boys for fake B.S. that losers like you rely on instead of using this thing called a brain that you supposedly have.
        4. I never linked to wccftech or said that any of the B.S. they post was real: However you did.
        5. Looks like I was right when I said that the AMD fansquad had nothing intelligent to say, because you sure as hell sound pretty stupid to me!

          • raddude9
          • 3 years ago

          Dear hypocrite,

          What do you mean I linked to wccftech without any prompting? You prompted me by commenting on VRZones take on a wccftech story.

          1. You disparage VR-Zone, but then you lend them credibility by analyzing their post. All you needed to say was the source material for the story was unknown. Even if the benchmarks were not fake, there’s no knowing what type of Ryzen chip was used to create them, i.e. how old an engineering sample it was. But no, you had to go on an extended rant trying to show how AMD’s new chip might not be as good as hoped.

          2. So what, I have no problem posting Wccftech links like you do, very very occasionally they have good information.

          3. I only used the Wccftech link to show you that you were essentially lending credence to a wccftech article. That’s the loser behavior in my book.

          4. Now you’re just dreaming. Please show me where I said that what was in the wccftech post was real.

          5. You’re right about me having nothing intelligent to say about your biased and pointless analysis of a bullshit reposting of a questionable story about a possibly faked screenshot of an unverified processor.

          The question is why do you think you can make a detailed analysis in this situation?

          Oh, I know why, because you are a rabid intel fanboi and you clutch at anything that has a slight chance of disparaging a competitor of your beloved company. Instead, how about cutting your constant stream of vitriol and wait for some real benchmarks.

      • Anovoca
      • 3 years ago

      Ryzengate 2017.

      • Anovoca
      • 3 years ago

      Earlier today on Chuck’s podcast: [url<]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj303/anovoca/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1486645772621.jpg[/url<]

        • RAGEPRO
        • 3 years ago

        You might wanna try that again, with less … this time.

          • Anovoca
          • 3 years ago

          Aw gosh darnit. Thats what I get for trying to mule a blocked url to myself on a work computer through the facebook mobile app

      • Prestige Worldwide
      • 3 years ago

      WCCFtech = cancer

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