AIDA64 release notes mention 16-core Ryzen CPUs and RX 500 cards

A few weeks after AMD launched its Ryzen 7 processors, rumors cropped up claiming that AMD had 12 and 16-core processors on the way. Seeing as Ryzen 7 proved to be a very capable performer when running heavily-threaded applications, it's perhaps unsurprising that AMD would take the multi-core design philosophy further still. AMD has confirmed the existence of many-cored Zen CPUs with its Naples platform, but the company hasn't made any announcements regarding similar consumer hardware. A new update to popular monitoring utility AIDA64 suggests we might be in for a surprise. Those many-core chips are mentioned by name, along with AMD's upcoming 500-series graphics cards.

The release notes for the upcoming version of AIDA64 Extreme don't offer many details, but what's there is intriguing. The notes declare that AIDA64 will have "preliminary support for AMD Zen 12-core and 16-core HEDT CPUs." It's fun to think about how such chips might pose a challenge to Intel's Core i7-6950X and Core i7-5960X in the high-end desktop and workstation spaces.

The notes also mention both the Radeon RX 570 and Radeon RX 580 cards, and indicate that they're both powered by the Polaris 10 GPU. This information matches up with other rumors we've heard concerning these pixel-pushers. For whatever it's worth, AIDA64's notes don't mention either the RX Vega or the RX 550, a rumored product based on an unreleased Polaris 12 GPU.

As much as we'd like to offer more details on these parts, there just isn't much in the way of specific information available yet. As AMD lets the cats out of the bag, we'll keep you posted.

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    • Anonymous Coward
    • 3 years ago

    So would this 4-channel socket have support for a GPU? They could perhaps play some fun “games” with that. What can you do with 4 channels and two dies, hmmm. Would they pair a with-GPU part and a non-GPU part? Would they pair two with-GPU parts and sell it for computation?

    I wonder what kind of wattage they would aim for. Would need to be pretty high to reach solid clock speeds with 16 cores, for workstation use.

    Seems like the socket would have no support for multi-socket configurations, which goes some distance towards making making this more affordable than the 8-channel platform.

    • sophisticles
    • 3 years ago

    REALLY?!? And people are excited about this?

    I remember when Zen was first announced the claims where the high end chip would have 16C/32T, integrated R9 class gpu and onboard 16GB HBM ram; what did we get, an under-performing (relative to core count) 8C/16T part with poor AVX performance and slow ram.

    I’ll wait until the Ryzen apu’s finnaly arrive, hopefully by years end and see if AMD has anything worth spending my money on.

      • Waco
      • 3 years ago

      That was always a server variant, not the desktop parts…

    • Bumper
    • 3 years ago

    I think Ryzen will outperform general expectations when equipped with quad channel memory bandwidth. Compared to what is expected from the current 8 cores.

      • Waco
      • 3 years ago

      It’ll scale pretty similarly – remember, the 8 core chips have the same ratio of cores:memory bandwidth.

        • Bumper
        • 3 years ago

        the twelve core will have a lower ratio though. is that right? less cores with more bandwidth “per core”.

          • Waco
          • 3 years ago

          In a memory-bound situation, sure.

    • Unknown-Error
    • 3 years ago

    AMD MOAR CORES! I guess AMD should have just stuck with 100/200-core bulldozer.

      • ImSpartacus
      • 3 years ago

      God, you’re so dumb. Bulldozer only had 50/100 REAL cores.

        • wpan2002
        • 3 years ago

        Nope the cores just share cache doesn’t mean they aren’t real cores…

    • chuckula
    • 3 years ago

    The real question isn’t about core counts since obviously you could cut-down a Naples server part to 16 cores.

    The real question is whether or not there’s some third platform that isn’t the naples server platform and that isn’t the regular AM4 platform that’s designed for the purported 16 core parts.

      • jts888
      • 3 years ago

      I think it is very nearly universally assumed at this point that the 2-die MCM will be a separate platform from AM4 and Naples.

      The rumored chipset name was X399 and the socket’s was SP3r2 or something I think.

      • the
      • 3 years ago

      Every rumor I have heard as indicated yet another socket. I’m actually kind of surprised by this move if the rumors are true as I thought AMD wanted a relatively simple socket line up. Naples would have serviced this market segment well.

        • chuckula
        • 3 years ago

        Having another socket is sort of weird.
        Even Intel doesn’t have a dedicated HEDT socket, it just uses the same LGA-2011 (and soon LGA-2066) sockets for a wide range of server/workstations/HEDT uses, and the economies of scale are useful since HEDT by itself isn’t a huge market.

          • Waco
          • 3 years ago

          I’m hoping it shares the Naples socket, and 32 core chips will be available in the 1S config for HEDT. 🙂

            • Beahmont
            • 3 years ago

            I doubt it unless this new socket comes with a crazy amount of pins. The Naples MCM’s just have too many traces required to shove that much stuff into any kind of socket. It would be crazily excessive to make a Naples MCM cross compatible with the HEDT socket.

            The PCI-E traces alone are going to cost more than the chip. Naples, iirc, has something like 320 PCI-E lanes, though half are dedicated to MCM to MCM communication in a 2S board.

            • Waco
            • 3 years ago

            128 PCIe lanes for both 1S and 2S configurations from the press slides.

            It would be crazy excessive to have three sockets when two would do. 🙂

          • kalelovil
          • 3 years ago

          LGA-2066 would be the equivalent of this ‘middle’ socket (if it exists).
          LGA-3647 is the Naples competitor.

        • jts888
        • 3 years ago

        While making the 2-die HEDT parts compatible with Naples sockets is fundamentally possible, I don’t think it makes sense technically.

        The 2-die parts will need their own, smaller, interposers and substrates anyway, since using the ones for Naples would just waste motherboard and interposer die space as well as have the dies being off-center of heatsinks. Furthermore, the halved I/O and memory connectivity of the 2-die part would likely lead to lower motherboard trace routing complexity (and layer count) when coupled with a more uniformly dense (and dedicated purpose) socket pinout.

        I think that 3 separate sockets for products that are essentially 1x/2x/4x versions of the same thing makes sense. I would say that a hypothetical 3-die part should probably go ahead and use the full Naples platform, though I strongly suspect that AMD would just use core-disabled 4-die MCMs for 24c parts, just to leave open the option for the higher IO and memory bandwidth.

          • kalelovil
          • 3 years ago

          “Furthermore, the halved I/O and memory connectivity of the 2-die part would likely lead to lower motherboard trace routing complexity (and layer count) when coupled with a more uniformly dense (and dedicated purpose) socket pinout.”

          Motherboards could be designed which simply don’t connect those pins to anything.

          FP4 supported both Carrizo-L (1-channel) and Carrizo (2-channel) chips, most motherboards for it only included wiring for 1-channel.

      • D@ Br@b($)!
      • 3 years ago

      Apparently it is gonna be a derivative of the Naples server platform, and will be called: “SP3r2” witch will contain 4000 pins.
      The LGA-Chips with codename “Threadripper” will be combined with a new X399 chipset.
      Build from two B2-revision chips they have a 4-4+4-4 or 3-3+3-3 configuration. They support SMT, have four DDR4 channels and 48 PCIe lanes.
      TDP’s are 180W and 140W. The 16 core wil clock from 3.1 to 3.6 turbo.

      [url<]https://tweakers.net/nieuws/122895/gerucht-12core-en-16core-ryzen-chips-zijn-multichip-modules.html[/url<]

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