(Updated) Wanted for review: AMD’s Ryzen Threadripper CPUs

UPDATE 8/4/2017 1:15 PM: AMD has contacted me and has guaranteed that The Tech Report will receive Threadripper review hardware ahead of the launch date. Stay tuned for our coverage August 10. Our original post continues below.

As any long-time reader of The Tech Report or any other PC hardware site knows, we are largely dependent on manufacturers for access to review hardware. Usually, this process is straightforward. We attend a manufacturer event, agree to any embargoes, get briefed, and return home with review hardware or have it shipped to us shortly thereafter. We then write a piece for the launch-day embargo lift. Everybody is happy.

In what has been one of the most relentless series of hardware launches in years, we have consistently held our side of the bargain with AMD's Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5, and Ryzen 3 parts. This isn't special treatment, either. Intel and Nvidia have both entrusted me with their most visible and highest-performing products of 2017 for review, and they've gotten nothing but fair shakes for their trouble.

If you haven't been following, AMD took home an exceedingly rare TR Editor's Choice award for its Ryzen 5 1600 and Ryzen 5 1600X, and I've praised the value of the entire Ryzen stack in my reviews. I've specifically learned how to use the time-consuming and difficult-to-run DAWBench tests to exercise our many-core CPU test subjects, a benchmark that AMD itself is now recommending other reviewers include in their CPU coverage. I also can't think of any higher compliment to pay Ryzen CPUs than their spots as the primary high-end and mid-range processor picks in our System Guide.

All that said, we do not seem to have gotten on the first-run sample list for the recently-announced Ryzen Threadripper CPUs. As a result, I have a lovely Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7 motherboard sitting forlorn on my test bench. I have an exquisite G.Skill DDR4-3600 32GB RAM kit ready to go in that same motherboard. We have an ample supply of Asetek-manufactured coolers just waiting to be mated with the Threadripper-specific mounting ring that comes in those CPUs' retail packaging. We have high-performance graphics cards and storage raring to go. All we're missing is the CPUs themselves.

AMD has assured me that review samples will get to us eventually, but launch-day coverage is paramount for us from a business perspective. If you happen to have retail versions of Threadrippers you can be without until August 10 or shortly after, please email me at jkampman@techreport.com. Your anonymity is assured, and your hardware will be treated with the utmost care. Most importantly, you'll be helping us to produce a rigorous, independent review of some of the hottest products of the year. If that's something you want to see as much as we do, get in touch.

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    • Brainsan
    • 2 years ago

    Honest question: Am I blind, or is there still no TR TR review?

    • chew*
    • 2 years ago

    Your welcome πŸ˜‰

    And of course I hope you can understand the why I had to help in a different way.

    • DPete27
    • 2 years ago

    Genuinely curious: Is there a PR rep at AMD that TR works though to procure review samples? Seems like TR doesn’t have much trouble getting GPU review samples from AMD, but clearly with a limited run of 250 threadripper review samples, the powers of self-promotion to AMD would come into play. (ie “We at TR have xxx,xxxx site visits per day, we do industry leading performance analysis, non-biased, etc etc. And that’s why we would be a great place to have your hardware reviewed.”)

    TL;DR – Do companies actively offer up their products to TR for review or is this something TR has to promote itself into? (my guess is some mixture of the two)

    • LocalCitizen
    • 2 years ago

    I hope Jeff takes complete responsibility for upsetting AMD. I mean the TR Editor’s Choice is a fine award, but AMD really wanted (and IMHO deserves) the one and only Swap My Hot Wife For It award.

    Past winners of TR Editor’s Choice award includes the meh processor 2500k. I mean it was great at the time, but it is now beaten by a lowly i3 (7350k). Shiny top of the line processor bested by an entry CPU is a situation AMD doesn’t want to be in. And what company is it in if it wins the Swap My Hot Wife For It award? Nothing. It is truly special.

    So now that AMD has sent TR to TR, I hope Jeff will do the right thing. On Aug 10 give it the very special Swap My Hot Wife For It award. And dont forget to also give it 11 gerbils out of 10 cheeses for performance and value.

    Then I hope we can normalize our relationship with AMD, and Jeff can get away from these past mistakes scot-free

    • fellix
    • 2 years ago

    AMD has been very selective of who will get the pre-release goodies.
    Certainly, if a small YT channel like this one (https://www.youtube.com/user/adoredtv) is qualified for a personalized review sample pack, a well established veteran tech site like TR should get one too.

    But I guess TR doesn’t publish Intel-bashing videos often enough to deserve a treat.

    • freebird
    • 2 years ago

    UPDATE: Now that TR IS getting a TR for review and considering all the rampant speculation in the previous comments; will the comments now turn how AMD has done this for some “other” nefarious reason?

    Maybe Trump stepped in and got a TR for TR, so people will stop reading about collusion with Russia and read and talk about the TR TR review…

    that’s my “conspiracy theory” and I’m sticking to it!!!!

    • CuttinHobo
    • 2 years ago

    The update should have started with “Good news, everyone!” πŸ™‚

    This is indeed good news! I’d like to think it was an oversight, not intentional. Either way, it shouldn’t happen again after this hullabaloo.

      • Mr Bill
      • 2 years ago

      +3 Bump

      • derFunkenstein
      • 2 years ago

      But Prof. Farnsworth’s “Good news, everyone” universally means “Bad news incoming”.

        • CuttinHobo
        • 2 years ago

        That’s a good point… If Farnsworth had written this news post he probably would have started it that way to begin with. πŸ™‚

    • yeeeeman
    • 2 years ago

    I think most of us know what to expect from TR 1950X in gaming and content creation. In gaming it will be no more potent than 1800X and in content creation it will be in best case scenario 2x of 1800X and in others less. I don’t think we need to see the review to know this.
    What we really want to see is power efficiency, cooling and the platform in general (those PCIE lanes).

      • Kougar
      • 2 years ago

      You never know. Worst case a multi-threaded game had threads split across three of the four CCXs and that would definitely lead to much worse game performance. One would expect Windows to appropriately assign threads even with four CCX’s in play, but this is exactly why we test such things.

        • Anonymous Coward
        • 2 years ago

        Yup, it will be interesting just to see how well the architecture holds together as it scales up.

      • cygnus1
      • 2 years ago

      I think you’re wrong on at the first half of what you say. The memory subsystem makes it a real wild card, so there’s really no telling how it will perform. Ryzen seems very sensitive to memory performance so I think we just can’t estimate reliably, need those tests.

        • stefem
        • 2 years ago

        You are wrong, Ryzen seems very sensitive to memory [u<]frequency[/u<]

      • ptsant
      • 2 years ago

      Don’t forget that the 3-4 game threads will now have access to 4 RAM channels. I don’t expect a spectacular change in gaming performance, but I’m not sure we can exactly extrapolate.

      Even if it is a token victory over the 1800X in gaming, combined with all the other advantages of the platform and chip, it will matter a lot to some people.

    • Waco
    • 2 years ago

    Now that there’s an update and TR is getting a TR…can I formally request a quick test with ECC memory to see if it is supported and functions properly (or a confirmation from AMD/motherboard makers that explicitly state support)? πŸ™‚

    I know I’m a nobody, but I have to imagine there are more than a few NAS builders wondering if they can run ECC with a ThreadRipper.

      • UberGerbil
      • 2 years ago

      While I agree more information about (in)compatibility with ECC would be valuable, I’m a little curious why you think you’d need a ThreadRipper for a NAS box.

        • Waco
        • 2 years ago

        4k transcoding of multiple streams and ZFS horsepower for potentially running dedup.

          • UberGerbil
          • 2 years ago

          See, I thought about that but I don’t consider transcoding — or any other computationally-intensive operation — to fall into the NAS domain. That’s a media server or an HTPC box, and that’s what I’d call a “NAS box that does transcoding.” NAS boxes are dumb and quiet and low-wattage and just serve up files; the boxes that process those files may need lots of threads, but the boxes that serve them generally don’t.

          The analogy would be a database server, which might address files on a separate NAS box… but if you run the database process on the same box where the files are stored (and thus require a beefier CPU on that box), you don’t call it “a NAS that does SQL” — you call it a database server.

            • Waco
            • 2 years ago

            I’m not sure what else to call it. My NAS is a full-blown server that can server media via Plex, serve files via Samba, serve VMs if I choose to, etc.

            My NAS is a “dumb, quiet, low wattage” box if it’s just serving files. However, it can do a lot more. Does that make it not a NAS box?

            • Redocbew
            • 2 years ago

            If it does NAS/media/HTPC/VMs, then that makes it a slasher. πŸ™‚

            • Waco
            • 2 years ago

            Or is it a…ripper? πŸ˜›

            • just brew it!
            • 2 years ago

            I think I’d call it “a server that also pulls NAS duty”. Though obviously these definitions are not set in stone, and there’s some overlap. Your setup is pretty clearly over the line though, IMO.

            An analogy: Couple of jobs ago I was nominally a Senior Software Engineer. But word got around that I was a PC enthusiast, so people came to me with their PC/IT problems. I wasn’t the office “IT guy”, but it was an (unofficial) secondary role… I was “that guy in the Software Department who can probably fix your IT f*ckups if you ask nicely”.

            • Waco
            • 2 years ago

            I felt better calling it an overpowered NAS box. πŸ™‚

            • just brew it!
            • 2 years ago

            Hey, I’m OK with that. As long as you acknowledge it’s “overpowered”. πŸ˜€

            • Mr Bill
            • 2 years ago

            That’s a NAS server you got there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it.

    • Kougar
    • 2 years ago

    Good, because it would be a shame for AMD to not send a TR sample to TR.

    • Cooe
    • 2 years ago

    Honestly the ultra exclusive review package #’s somewhat make sense with just how ridiculously high end, personalized, and expensive the entire Threadripper/X399 review setup was. That being said, until I just barely read this, I’d just ASSUMED you’d been on that 250 list. I mean if people like Hilbert over at Guru3D.com are (whom I also love) I COMPLETELY expected you guys to be in the same group. Sad day :(. At least according to the update, they are trying to at least somewhat rectify the situation. (Probably no badass Threadripper package silkcreened with the Techreport.com logo in that box though which is BS).

    • albundy
    • 2 years ago

    TR on TR ftw!!!

    • NTMBK
    • 2 years ago

    …thanks, Scott?

    • tay
    • 2 years ago

    (>’-‘)> <(‘-‘<) ^(‘-‘)^ v(‘-‘)v(>’-‘)> (^-^)

    • Mr Bill
    • 2 years ago

    Tattoo! The plane is coming! Looking forward to this review!

    • just brew it!
    • 2 years ago

    Heh. So even if things go perfectly with the build, you’re going to have just a few days to review it. I think someone is gonna be pulling an all-nighter or two…

      • drfish
      • 2 years ago

      Here’s hoping that it’s so fast that benching it won’t take very long. πŸ˜‰

    • chuckula
    • 2 years ago

    [quote<]UPDATE 8/4/2017 1:15 PM: AMD has contacted me and has guaranteed that The Tech Report will receive Threadripper review hardware ahead of the launch date. Stay tuned for our coverage August 10. Our original post continues below.[/quote<] AND THE DAY IS MINE!

      • Air
      • 2 years ago

      Wow they reacted fast.

        • maxxcool
        • 2 years ago

        well TR is big enough to spread a negative image of the release and reviews. it may have been a oversight, but i suspect not and think the figured they’d throw the dice and see if we sqwuacked

      • Redocbew
      • 2 years ago

      So, TR is going to receive unit 251 out of 250?

      Edit: I guess we know what Jeff will be doing the next few days.

        • Jeff Kampman
        • 2 years ago

        The full review kit is nice and all, but like I said, I really just need the CPUs and I expect that’s all I’m getting.

          • maxxcool
          • 2 years ago

          I know the pressure to publish is high but i’d prefer a retail chip from a store .. I do not trust ANY silicon slingers these days.

      • drfish
      • 2 years ago

      Dang it, now what am I going to do with all of [url=https://goo.gl/VivW7q<]these[/url<]?

        • chuckula
        • 2 years ago

        That’s a world-exclusive look at an 18 core threadripper if I counted right!

        • Neutronbeam
        • 2 years ago

        I’d suggest something, but kids read this site.

        [well, it was funny to ME]. :->

      • DragonDaddyBear
      • 2 years ago

      The Wassen effect?

      • Waco
      • 2 years ago

      Wow, good job gerbils for raising awareness, TR for making a post about it, and AMD for actually responding quickly!

    • DPete27
    • 2 years ago

    [url=https://media.giphy.com/media/14wTbNneogwjba/giphy.gif<]Here's your ThreadRipper review Jeff[/url<]

    • AMDisDEC
    • 2 years ago

    Another Anand tech site got two TR’s and all the system components (case, water cooler, mem) too. They even got a Threadripper paper weight with their site name etched on it.
    I’ve been eagerly awaiting their review(s).

    • adisor19
    • 2 years ago

    I think you should just review the Matrox Parhelia again instead the new AMD CPU. At least consider it for next April 1st.

    Adi

    • Hsew
    • 2 years ago

    Guess they didn’t want to have to wait for a Part 2

    • Duct Tape Dude
    • 2 years ago

    Obviously we should have preordered one.

      • cygnus1
      • 2 years ago

      Just not from Walmart… stupid SNES Mini

    • TwoEars
    • 2 years ago

    What kind of a-hole at AMD doesn’t put Techreport on the list when they should know full well that Kampman senior works at AMD?

    Edit: Glad it worked out!

    • DragonDaddyBear
    • 2 years ago

    So, what was their excuse in giving smaller, lesser-known sites samples before TechReport?

      • NeoForever
      • 2 years ago

      I’d like to know this too. But I don’t think we’ll find out. For some reason TR always has to beg for their hardware.

        • tay
        • 2 years ago

        I think TR is pretty small; smaller than you think anyway.

          • HERETIC
          • 2 years ago

          Yes Purch might have more readers,BUT-
          I consider TechReport to be ONE of the “TOP THREE”

    • chuckula
    • 2 years ago

    What I really want to see happen is that TR gets a nice black-market review sample and punks everybody else with an early review because AMD decided that TR doesn’t need to sign a pesky NDA.

      • Ummagumma
      • 2 years ago

      I think if TechReport were to do what you suggest, then TechReport could guarantee themselves not getting anymore AMD hardware directly from AMD for review by launch date.

      I think the process of reviewing hardware is a “two way street”, it’s a matter of respect. Both parties need to be fair with each other throughout the entire process (acquisition, testing, publishing). I doubt we will ever learn the “real why” behind AMD’s initial decision on this matter.

        • chuckula
        • 2 years ago

        That’s not really true, plenty of websites have gotten their hands on early samples outside of NDA and have never really been penalized.

        Anandtech (back when there was an Anand running things) regularly showed off previews of engineering sample parts months before the real products launched and long before they had received their NDA-protected review samples.

        It’s a different thing to flagrantly violate an NDA that you actually signed where the hardware company had provided you with a sample, but prior to the latest update TR was clearly not subject to any NDA whatsoever.

        • southrncomfortjm
        • 2 years ago

        I’d think the opposite. If TR shows it can get non-NDA’d chips and release a whole bunch of info early, then AMD would be more likely to offer them NDA’d chips to avoid that problem.

        As for AMD’s side – each Threadripper is either $999 or $799 at retail, so each review sample costs them several hundred dollars in potential profit. If they don’t think that giving a sample to TR will generate any extra sales, they wouldn’t be inclined to provide one. There will be no dearth of reviews available, and even the most die-hard TR reader who is interested in a Threadripper wouldn’t necessarily pass on it just because TR didn’t have a day 1 review.

        Regardless, it really is a small amount of money for AMD, so I don’t see why they would snub TR, especially since the PR would only be bad.

    • [TR]
    • 2 years ago

    If I were you, I’d produce the best ever review of a pair of scissors just to show AMD no one does Threadrippers like Tech Report!

      • derFunkenstein
      • 2 years ago

      Forget about scissors. [url=https://allstitch.net/product/seam-ripper-514-blue-with-ball-4111.cfm<]This will rip all the threads![/url<]

        • chuckula
        • 2 years ago

        As Dr. of the Fish can attest, not one, not two, but THREE of those Genuine ThreadRippers were awarded at this years BBQ.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 2 years ago

          That’s thrilling. I really wish I could have won one, but it was my wife’s birthday and she had other things for me to do, like paint the bathroom and hang a new shower curtain.

            • chuckula
            • 2 years ago

            I only know about that because… I’m the one who sent them up as a gag πŸ˜‰
            I unfortunately couldn’t attend either.

            However, given this latest development, I do find it twistedly appropriate that as the so-called Intel fanboy I’ve been personally responsible for providing far more ThreadRippers to TR than AMD.

        • DPete27
        • 2 years ago

        Agreed. A spoof seam ripper review would be fantastic. I’d love to see that linked in other site’s threadripper review roundups.

          • Redocbew
          • 2 years ago

          This absolutely needs to happen.

    • Anonymous Coward
    • 2 years ago

    I propose that you review an empty motherboard vs a Pentium II system, award victory to the one that posts highest scores on modern software.

      • chuckula
      • 2 years ago

      I don’t know.. the southbridge on that board may still win.

      [Lol: Downthumbed by AMD fanboys who were too stupid to realize I was calling AMD’s (ok Asmedia’s) southbridge better than an Intel product.]

    • Bauxite
    • 2 years ago

    I’ll let you know about memory support, I have various server ddr4 modules I will be trying.

    From a marketing standpoint, things are going to keep moving towards using mostly vapid youtubers because that is where all the attention is. It is a poor medium for deep dive technical data but considering how websites killed so many things that did not adapt to the internet…shoe is on the other foot now.

    • brucethemoose
    • 2 years ago

    What? A bunch of dubstep-wielding YouTubers get launch-day TR review samples, but TechReport doesn’t?

    …Sadly, that doesn’t surprise me πŸ™

    • cynan
    • 2 years ago

    Sigh.. AMD PR [url=https://techreport.com/news/28971/wanted-for-review-amd-radeon-r9-nano<]strikes again[/url<]. I'm hoping this exclusion is more clumsy oversight than pandering to reviewers who are more likely to be superficial or roll over to AMD-imposed "reviewer guidelines". Perhaps AMD just doesn't think TR is influential enough or has a large enough readership. Still, whatever the motivation, it is still undoubtedly incredibly sad that a sites/venues such as LinusTechTips seems to have received launch day review samples.

      • w76
      • 2 years ago

      But didn’t they hire Scott? Did they lock him in the closet and then lay off the only guy with the key?

        • brucethemoose
        • 2 years ago

        Scott is part of the RTG I believe, not the CPU division.

        • derFunkenstein
        • 2 years ago

        Well that’s what’s next. This December expect a blog post from Jeff about how he’s been hired by AMD’s CPU division. πŸ˜†

          • chuckula
          • 2 years ago

          It’s the circle of life!

            • Redocbew
            • 2 years ago

            Meaning, AMD is where journalists go to die?

            • chuckula
            • 2 years ago

            Don’t threaten Wasson like that!

            • derFunkenstein
            • 2 years ago

            A lot of journalists seem to end up there. The guy responsible for accidentally posting public Vega benchmarks (Jason Evangelho) used to write about PC stuff for Forbes.

            • stefem
            • 2 years ago

            Accidentally? lol

        • ImSpartacus
        • 2 years ago

        Honestly, I’ve seen Scott do more videos and collaborations with GamersNexus than TechReport.

        That’s kinda disappointing, but maybe he’s concerned about his impartiality?

    • PBCrunch
    • 2 years ago

    AMD sees the writing on the wall. Threadripper doesn’t have anything to offer gamers, and this site puts a lot of weight on gaming performance in CPU reviews. AMD handed cards out willy-nilly to YouTube channels and handful of server-focused sites.

    The YouTubers and the server operators will love TR because their video workflows benefit from lots of cores and lots of threads. Gamers will be disappointed because Threadripper isn’t going to do anything to rectify the gap in gaming performance between Ryzen and Core i7-7700K.

      • DPete27
      • 2 years ago

      So you’re implying that TR reviewers are incapable of communicating intended usage of a product and tailoring their benchmarking to provide useful information to the target demographic?

      [url=https://techreport.com/review/32111/intel-core-i9-7900x-cpu-reviewed-part-one<]ahem[/url<]

        • brucethemoose
        • 2 years ago

        I thing PB is implying the opposite.

        AMD wants people to think TR is a gaming chip. A thorough review on a gamer-heavy site would show that it’s not.

          • maxxcool
          • 2 years ago

          [quote<] AMD wants people to think TR is a gaming chip. A thorough review on a CREDIBLE gamer-heavy site would show that it's not. [/quote<] πŸ˜‰

      • derFunkenstein
      • 2 years ago

      This is the dumbest comment in this thread, and the thread includes ASCII art of a middle finger.

      AMD is marketing Threadripper at gamers. Remember the exclusivity deal with Alienware?

        • brucethemoose
        • 2 years ago

        Bulldozer was also marketed at gamers. That doesn’t make it a gamer’s chip.

        Maybe it’s my tinfoil hat speaking, but the comment seems pretty spot-on to me. YouTubers are going to paint TR’s gaming performance in a better light than TechReport would, and the server review sites aren’t even going to bench alot of games.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 2 years ago

          You missed all the Ryzen video reviews then. The most widely-viewed reviews that I know of were LTT and Jayz. Both fo them said the same thing: “Ryzen can do 60fps! It’s perfectly smooth! So what if the Intel chip is faster?”

          And guess what they’ll say for Threadripper?

            • brucethemoose
            • 2 years ago

            …I don’t understand, isn’t that a positive Ryzen review?

            So, yeah, exactly. YouTubers are going to say it’ll do 60 FPS just like 7900X or whatever. A thorough TechReport review will instead reveal that’s it’s no faster than an 1800X in games.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 2 years ago

            It was being compared to Haswell-E and Broadwell-E, because MOAR COARZ. So it wasn’t quite as fast but lookit! 60FPS for $500 instead of $1000.

            • brucethemoose
            • 2 years ago

            Then why do you disagree with the original comment? Even if the reason is wrong (YouTubers aren’t reviewing TR for their video workflow), the idea is right.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 2 years ago

            Because the YouTube reviews leaned heavily on game results on HEDT platforms. Their conclusion was that everyone should get one because it’s “fine”.

            edited to add: PCGamer got one. As cynan noted, [H] and Anandtech got one. I’m guessing Tom’s did, too (same company).

            • brucethemoose
            • 2 years ago

            Which is exactly why YouTubers are receiving them, yeah. They’ll paint gaming performance in a positive light, unlike TR.

            EDIT: Though Anand and others getting one does kinda throws this whole argument out the window I suppose. They do extensive game benchmarks with a bunch of chips.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 2 years ago

            Right. I heard a lot of “it’s not the absolute fastest, but it’s plenty fast enough.”

            I’m not arguing against the price/performance of any Zen product. For lots of workloads (like my main use, virtualization) it’s a great value. I just find the YouTube reviews that lean on games and still say it’s great to be a crock.

            • fullbodydenim
            • 2 years ago

            That’s probably not going to be true. The TR-1900X 8 core has higher stock clocks than the Ryzen 7 1800X and should outperform it for $50 more.

            Did any TR readers order an Alienware Threadripper system which released on July 27th? I’m sure one of us must have a manager buddy at Microcenter or Fry’s Electronics.

            Also once Tech Report gets one please describe the unboxing smell. Lots of other sites have neglected to do so.

            • Kretschmer
            • 2 years ago

            Visually confirming that a part mostly maintains 60 FPS is a bad metric when many gamers room over 100Hz and frame time testing exists. The idea is that handing out products to overly simple reviewers pushes false equivalence and papers over product deficiencies.

          • cynan
          • 2 years ago

          Well, sites like Anandtech and Hardocp got samples…

          So while I can’t discount the possibility of a more manipulative motive, I am inclined to stick with “clumsy oversight” for now.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 2 years ago

            What if it’s a deliberate decision because TR is too small compared to those two sites, PCGamer, PCWorld, and so on.

            I mean, I don’t think it’s too small, but what if AMD thinks that?

            • cynan
            • 2 years ago

            Well that’s sort of what I mean by “clumsy oversight”. See my other post here.

            • derFunkenstein
            • 2 years ago

            Ah, yeah. I just saw it.

            • tay
            • 2 years ago

            TR is small, but if you watch the NordicHardware unboxing youtube they spent so much money on just one package, they could’ve shipped barebones retail chips to smaller sites like Tech Report. TR needs someone like Linus and launch a YouTube channel. There is just so much money there and even I find Linus engaging for a few minutes at least.

            • brucethemoose
            • 2 years ago

            Maybe it’s something in between? They prioritize gamer-friendly YT reviews, but give out just enough chips to the highest-traffic text review sites to not appear manipulative.

        • tay
        • 2 years ago

        Hey don’t criticize my comment. Or else haha…

      • albundy
      • 2 years ago

      well, yeah, thats the point. its a super cheap platform compared to xeon at an amazing price/performance ratio. from what i’m seeing, the way its being marketed isn’t directed towards the server sector. its sorta open to whatever your heart desires.

      • Krogoth
      • 2 years ago

      Thank for describing the HEDT market since the early 2000s.

      My friend, gaming isn’t everything.

      • ptsant
      • 2 years ago

      What you describe sounds like perfectly reasonable marketing : Promote the chip to people who are likely to appreciate it and buy it.

      It’s why I don’t get ads for agricultural tractors, for example.

    • nico1982
    • 2 years ago

    If had I one, I would.

    • DPete27
    • 2 years ago

    You’re looking for a retail CPU to produce a launch day review? How’s that work?

      • UberGerbil
      • 2 years ago

      All the launch-day reviews will be written based on tests with retail CPUs. That’s what AMD has been sending to reviewers for that purpose. Retail chips are available to reviewers ahead of general retail availability. At least, that’s how it is [i] supposed [/I] to work. Undoubtedly there are other retail chips out there in the hands of 3rd party hw makers for compatibility testing, etc. It’s presumably one of these that Mr. Kampman is hoping to shake loose.

        • DPete27
        • 2 years ago

        Ah, gotcha. However, if only 250 review packages were sent out….I’m doubtful this request will be fulfilled on time. Fingers crossed though.

      • Kougar
      • 2 years ago

      Motherboard manufacturers and OEMs tend to have ES samples on hand. It would be far from the first time that an OEM stepped in to loan CPU samples to a major tech site for a launch day article.

        • brucethemoose
        • 2 years ago

        Do those ES chips have the same specs as retail ones?

          • smilingcrow
          • 2 years ago

          That varies depending on the chip revision, clock speeds and firmware.
          But for testing retail GPUs it’s also about testing the other components such as fan, shroud, VRMs etc so you really want a retail board.
          For CPUs as long as the revision and clock speeds match retail version you should be fine.

      • willyolioleo
      • 2 years ago

      Retailers should be stocking up already, if one is willing to lend one of their stock. I don’t think this would break NDA because it isn’t a “sale”…

        • Neutronbeam
        • 2 years ago

        Like it. You’d think TR could go to Newegg and ask for a favor…and then send back the chip.

          • DPete27
          • 2 years ago

          And what? Sell it as open box?

            • Beahmont
            • 2 years ago

            Heck no. Newegg is a business. Sell it as “Special TechReport Reviewed One Of a Kind ThreadRipper” with a $50 buck over MSRP price. Guaranteed someone will buy it.

            • cygnus1
            • 2 years ago

            I’d buy that, especially if I thought it would help ensure TR got more review hardware when they wanted it.

    • Waco
    • 2 years ago

    It’s sad that AMD doesn’t see the serious visibility that this site provides.

    That, or they do, and that concerns me a bit.

      • gerryg
      • 2 years ago

      Might be time for the TR gerbils to do a social media campaign raising awareness of TR’s awesomeness and that TR really should get parts for launch-day reviews. Otherwise TR is going to have to go Consumer Reports and buy everything off the shelf after release.

        • Waco
        • 2 years ago

        I shared the post on Facebook and regularly extoll the virtues of TR to my interested friends and colleagues. I encourage everyone to do the same!

      • southrncomfortjm
      • 2 years ago

      I have no doubt about TR’s thoroughness and objectivity in reviews and reporting. But how many readers does it actually reach on daily/weekly/monthly basis?

        • DPete27
        • 2 years ago

        Not a bad idea. YouTube videos get counters. Ebay listings have view counters. Surely TR could put a counter on each of their articles. No shame in tooting your own horn.

          • southrncomfortjm
          • 2 years ago

          The idea gives me flashbacks to the mid to late 90s when all those Geocite pages had counters on them… along with garish tiled backgrounds and bad midi music.

          • NeoForever
          • 2 years ago

          But we aren’t just talking about readership numbers here (I don’t think AMD or others pay attention to that number itself). I think the more important aspect is brand. For example, even after Anand left, his site continues to be featured in Google News, non-tech related sites, and social media. We need TR to be “renowned” for its tech mojo, for manufacturers to give it a first class treatment.

          I think TR needs more than just reviews to achieve that. Examples: TR needs in-depth look into new hardware issues, and create more one-of-a-kind reports that aren’t duplicated elsewhere (unlike reviews).

          Also, video reviews and impressions are a big thing these days. It gives the entire brand more “life” and authenticity.

            • tsk
            • 2 years ago

            You’re quite right, and if TR is unwilling to adapt it’ll be their downfall, despite their many loyal readers[Myself included].

            • Waco
            • 2 years ago

            TR has a pretty damn good history of honest and deep reviews that cover things that nobody else does.

            I, personally, hate video reviews.

            • Redocbew
            • 2 years ago

            Video reviews I don’t have much use for either. Reviews aren’t just news they’re also reference material, and videos make terrible reference material.

            Podcasts, and random interviews with people from the industry though… That stuff can be nifty sometimes.

            • Waco
            • 2 years ago

            Absolutely. Video has its place, but there’s a good reason academia hasn’t switched to videos instead of research papers. πŸ™‚

          • Mr Bill
          • 2 years ago

          LOL, I used to have a counter on my web page years ago. Don’t think it got much above a couple hundred and that was mostly myself.

        • Inkling
        • 2 years ago

        There are multiple ways to measure this, and they don’t all concur. According to the most reliable methods, The Tech Report gets well over half a million unique visitors each month. We’ve topped out close to million, but the usual is between 500,000 and 600,000.

        Some sites with much smaller readership often seem to be larger because…
        > They publish more content, and people assume that more content=more readers.
        > They’re more active on social media with vastly more “friends” and “followers.” TR hasn’t really tried to grow our social media presence, choosing instead to focus on our own site.
        > They have a YouTube channel ( or popular podcast) with a steady stream of new content. Those video counters seem persuasive, but most our major reviews surpass in readers what many popular YouTubers get in views or subscribers.
        > They’re just better at PR. If the owner or a key editor of a tech site writes occasionally for a mainstream news/business outlet or appears in an interview and talks up his site, it’s easy to assume that he’s “big time.” That’s just not always the case.

          • southrncomfortjm
          • 2 years ago

          Awesome to hear. Thanks for the info.

          Half a million enthusiasts is no joke.

      • Ummagumma
      • 2 years ago

      I think the same could be said by many review sites, but I also agree that AMD’s behavior “is cause for concern”.

      Having said that, I do acknowledge that TechReport has contributed to advancing the process of reviewing hardware. For example, in the past it was video card testing methodologies, now it’s demonstrating the value of DAWBench. I can make the same statement concerning the advancement of testing methods & tools about the folks at Phoronix, ServeTheHome, and JonnyGuru. There are probably other sites as well that I don’t/rarely read.

      Perhaps AMD’s thinking was that Threadripper or even EPYC were not product lines for the average TechReport reader/user, aka “AMD doesn’t know TechReport’s audience”. The thought here being that different review web sites attract different types of readers/users, like ServeTheHome generally attracts readers/users of “server grade” hardware and STH gets lots of that (as well as desktop) hardware for review.

      We may never know what AMD was thinking.

      • HERETIC
      • 2 years ago

      Seems standard today-If you want to receive samples-
      “We expect reviewers to provide a honest review,with positive spin on the product.”

      What has probably pi$$ed them off is the die hard Intel fan boys on site,
      not mentioning any names CHUCK haha…………………….

        • Waco
        • 2 years ago

        chuckula isn’t a fanboy of either company from what I can tell. Perhaps my troll/BS filter is a bit misaligned, but he’s generally pretty on-point, if a bit brash.

        • stefem
        • 2 years ago

        You really think that? they would be very touchy, they are a big company, I think it’s time they grow up then

      • TravelMug
      • 2 years ago

      It’s crazy and a shame that TR didn’t get a kit while there have been 250 sent out worldwide. Saw some unboxing (Bitwit?) and they’ve sent some serious package out to people. And all of these sites/channels/publications got one?:

      [url<]https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6rnf5z/list_of_people_who_have_received_the_amd_ryzen/[/url<] [quote<]AMD has contacted me and has guaranteed that The Tech Report will receive Threadripper review hardware ahead of the launch date. Stay tuned for our coverage August 10.[/quote<] So you'll get one on the 9th?...

    • tay
    • 2 years ago

    What a fucking pile of shit.

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    AMD

      • chuckula
      • 2 years ago

      The same complaints have been leveled at other vendors (Nvidia in particular) in the past, so if it’s fair for Nvidia or Intel it’s fair for AMD.

      • SomeOtherGeek
      • 2 years ago

      Bump

      • ronch
      • 2 years ago

      Hmm … was that really necessary?

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