Radeon 17.9.1 driver kills bugs dead

As we close the curtains on the first week of September, AMD delivers the month's first Radeon driver update. Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.9.1 seems to exclusively be a bugfix release, as the company isn't trumpeting support for any new game releases or hardware features. Instead, the fixed issues list counts down eight smushed bugs.

Titanfall 2

Perhaps most notably, Microsoft Office and its relatives should no longer suffer display corruption on Radeon cards. Radeon ReLive ought to work properly in Guild Wars 2 now. The Radeon Settings app shouldn't hang or crash when you click on the Displays tab, and its installer should scale to the correct size on 4K HDTVs.

That mouse stuttering bug caused by Radeon Wattman and other GPU monitoring apps (a flaw that we reported on before) should be resolved now. Giant mecha shooter Titanfall 2 should stop crashing on older Radeons, and Chinese martial arts MMO Moonlight Blade should launch correctly now. Finally, Radeon RX Vega cards should no longer hang a system when playing video after the system's resumed from sleep.

A few issues hang around, of course. Radeon Software might show a harmless "1603 Error" during installation. Radeon Wattman might not correctly restore default settings after an overclocking failure. Overwatch could intermittently hang for some Radeon users, and GPU scaling might not work correctly on DirectX 11 games.

If Radeon Settings didn't ping you about the new release, you can always head to AMD's download page to pick it up.

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    • tipoo
    • 2 years ago

    They said this was going to fix the black lines all over Office products, still there for me :/

    • Krogoth
    • 2 years ago

    They finally fixed the stupid WDDM + sleep issue with Vega. The UI freezes when it attempts to use hardware accelerated video playback (DVXA/Flash) after the system wakes up. You had to restart the video card drivers to fix it.

      • Satanforaday
      • 2 years ago

      I am still having this issue… I still cant believe that this is even an issue… wtf

        • Krogoth
        • 2 years ago

        It has something do with WDDM and some of the power states. The drivers appear to be throwing a crap ton of interrupters at the CPU until it times out. Windows 10’s hybrid sleep mode is playing havoc with this.

    • brucethemoose
    • 2 years ago

    Is Vega overclock still busted? I don’t know the details, but I’ve heard alot of people complaining about it for the last 2 versions.

      • DoomGuy64
      • 2 years ago

      [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD9CRQp2YpA[/url<]

    • smilingcrow
    • 2 years ago

    Still no official Win8.1 support. Lazy &&^!£%^%%

      • Krogoth
      • 2 years ago

      Windows 8.1 and 8 are pretty much dead. Microsoft and hardware vendors are quietly sun setting it. Microsoft wants everyone on the 10 bandwagon.

        • smilingcrow
        • 2 years ago

        It’s an O/S that millions still use that is officially supported by MS until about 2023 so it seems premature of AMD whereas Nvidia still support it.

        It seems as if Win8.x has the same market share as OSX in a browser survey so it’s not a trivial market:
        [url<]https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp[/url<]

          • DoomGuy64
          • 2 years ago

          Win 8 isn’t as nice as 7, and doesn’t game as well as w10, plus I’ve heard it may still be possible to upgrade for free. I doubt anyone still on 8 is actually using it for gaming or work as Win8 has been the worst upgrade since MS BOB.

          From personal experience, the only people still using Win8 are old people with prebuilt systems that didn’t bother to update when MS was pushing it, and they only use it to check their email.

          If anyone else is still using it, I feel bad for you, but that’s really your own fault and you’re missing out on all of Win 10’s improvements. Do the upgrade, because there’s no good reason to stick with 8 at this point.

            • smilingcrow
            • 2 years ago

            The market share of 7 + 8.1 together is larger than for 10 and there has been a lot of resistance to 10 for various reasons.
            So when 7 is out of MS support in 2020 or so for those that still feel 10 is to be avoided it would be good if 8.1 which at that point will still have 3 years on the clock would be properly supported.
            10 seems to be nudging in the right direction slowly so hopefully by 2020 MS will have emerged from their coma.

            I’d take 7 over 8.0 but also 8.1 over either and will wait for 10 to outgrow puberty.

            • GTVic
            • 2 years ago

            There’s also a lot of people who believe the world is flat.

            • smilingcrow
            • 2 years ago

            7 alone has a larger market share so you don’t even need add the 8.x share to beat 10.

            • Waco
            • 2 years ago

            I’d take Windows 8.1 over Windows 7 these days. It’s much closer to 10 than 7 is, so a lot more things just work.

            You can’t just blame users for using a [i<]completely supported and maintained[/i<] OS. I mean, you can, but you're being a dick doing so. There's a lot of software that doesn't work on 10 that does work well on 8.1.

            • DoomGuy64
            • 2 years ago

            [quote<]"completely supported and maintained OS."[/quote<] That's debatable. I think MS stopped "supporting" 8 as soon as 10 came out, and they did everything borderline legal to get users to switch. At this point, you're only getting bare minimum security updates, and 8's compatibility with older software is worse than 7, so while 7 does have a diminishing argument, 8 does not. [url<]https://www.infoworld.com/article/2607741/microsoft-windows/microsoft-confirms-it-s-dropping-windows-8-1-support.html[/url<] [url<]https://www.pcworld.com/article/3020744/windows/upgrade-now-microsoft-cuts-off-windows-8s-security-updates-on-january-12.html[/url<] There are also various versions of win8 that are officially unsupported. Like it or not, you can't use those older versions if you want to still receive updates. Same with CPU upgrades, which aren't supported in win 8. Most corporations skipped 8, the public generally hated it, and there was no net positive to upgrade from 7. Considering all the factors involved, there is no reason to be still using 8 outside of old people who don't like change, in which we then have the argument that win10 fixed 8's UI inconsistencies. In short, the only argument left for 8 is "I don't want to upgrade", and those people don't actually need bleeding edge driver updates. Especially when win8 doesn't support dx12. If you aren't in the market for dx12 or using dx12 hardware, you aren't in the market for dx12 driver updates. [url=https://www.pcworld.com/article/3112663/software/microsoft-made-em-do-it-the-latest-kaby-lake-zen-chips-will-support-only-windows-10.html<]Not to mention new CPUs aren't even supported on the OS.[/url<] There isn't a legitimate point to complain about this. Just stick with your old and busted and be quiet.

            • smilingcrow
            • 2 years ago

            “In short, the only argument left for 8 is “I don’t want to upgrade”, and those people don’t actually need bleeding edge driver updates. Especially when win8 doesn’t support dx12. If you aren’t in the market for dx12 or using dx12 hardware, you aren’t in the market for dx12 driver updates.”

            AMD support Win7 with Vega which also lacks DX12.
            Most games still use an older version of DX anyway.
            The issue I’m highlighting is about 7 v 8.1 and not about 10.

            • DoomGuy64
            • 2 years ago

            I’d like to know who’s running Vega with a Bulldozer, because the newer CPUs aren’t supported in 8.

            It’s vastly more likely that anyone holding out on 8 is not a gaming enthusiast and doesn’t need bleeding edge drivers.

            EVEN MORE SENSE:
            Win 8 pc gaming holdouts are Nvidia users. First off, there’s more people using Nvidia. Second, Nvidia works better than AMD in dx11, and gains little from dx12. No big loss to stick on an older OS for them, while AMD users see big gains even in win10’s dx11 because of the newer driver model. Now if that’s the case, you still don’t have a need for AMD drivers in win8.

            Anyway you look at it, it doesn’t make sense to be a PC gamer using windows 8 with AMD hardware, since AMD benefits from win10’s new driver model. You’re either using Nvidia, or you are flat out crazy. Either way, win8 is too old and busted to be considered an acceptable gaming OS, and nobody, not even Microsoft wants you to continue using that OS. Getting support for 8 isn’t going to get better down the road either, as more and more vendors are going to drop it. Get over the win10 complaints and upgrade. It’s not like there isn’t workarounds.

            • anotherengineer
            • 2 years ago

            Win8 and win8.1 are separate beasts.

            If I had control over updates and other OS features in Win10 as I do win8.1, I would have upgraded. Win10’s auto-updating/auto-restarting is far from perfect, especially when it forces driver updates.

            It’s a decent OS, but I still feel like a beta tester when using it.

            I wish I could get my hand on a copy of the the W10 Chinese Edition (in english) and take it for a test drive.

            • DoomGuy64
            • 2 years ago

            I use win10, and don’t have auto updating, auto restarting, or forced driver updates. It’s not an issue if you use the PRO version. Only the HOME edition has those issues, and even at that, can still be avoided with registry hacks.

            • Krogoth
            • 2 years ago

            It isn’t even that big of a deal either. It does the auto-updating at off-peak hours (assuming you leave your system on overnight). It also does it during sleep mode (System wakes up for the update and then goes back to sleep).

            FYI, I’m using Windows 10 Home with my main system.

            • DoomGuy64
            • 2 years ago

            Yeah, I have a win 10 Home laptop, and it’s not a big deal. Most of the complaints can be easily dealt with, and the people refusing to acknowledge that are just uneducated whiners.

            • smilingcrow
            • 2 years ago

            Loads of people on the Audio (DAW) forums have had loads of problems over the last 2+ years.
            Things like major updates requiring plugins to be reauthorized and many other niggles which added together make it the biggest nuisance of any MS O/S of the last 20 years.
            Things may have settled down now but when I buy a car for example reliability is important and the same for an O/S.
            It’s been a pain in the ass and not all of us want to be forced to change the engine oil and spark plugs on our O/S every 6 months.
            If you like having a track car then fair enough put up with the issues but some us see the O/S as being there to serve the applications not to sabotage them and be a nuisance.
            Denying these issues shows your ignorance and also shows your myopic lack of empathy whereby you can’t appreciate that other people have different requirements and values than you.
            You sound like one of the people at MS who only think about their own needs.

            • DoomGuy64
            • 2 years ago

            That’s not Microsoft’s fault, it’s typical driver issues associated with using old or buggy drivers on a new OS.

            EVERY SINGLE NEW WINDOWS HAS HAD THIS PROBLEM.

            We only have to look back to Vista to realize that this is nothing new, and you’re damn right I have no empathy for idiots who don’t properly research an upgrade. If your hardware doesn’t have working drivers, either buy new hardware or stick with the old OS. Blaming Microsoft for not supporting your turtle beach santa cruz in windows 10 is not a valid argument.

            Taking your car analogy, I can say it is similar to buying a new ford but trying to use your old chevy parts to make it run. It doesn’t work for cars, and it doesn’t work for an OS. You have to use compatible hardware in both cases.

            This argument isn’t even about using old hardware in a new OS, it’s about using new hardware in an OLD OS that is no longer supported. If you want to use new hardware, then you have to upgrade the OS. Microsoft clearly doesn’t want people using 8 with new hardware, as shown by them blocking installation of new CPUs, and AMD is taking the next logical step in not supporting a dead OS with hardware designed to run with the new driver model and APIs of windows 10. It doesn’t make any sense to buy a Vega to use in windows 8, as even full windows 8 support would perform slower than nvidia’s well optimized dx11 hardware. Windows 10 is the only OS that makes sense to run AMD hardware on, since AMD designed it’s hardware to run with the new driver model. Outside of Vulkan, AMD hardware on windows 8 would be severely hampered with driver limitations, and it doesn’t make sense to buy an miner inflated Vega card to use with an old OS. You’d be throwing money away that would be better spent on a 980 or 1070.

            • Waco
            • 2 years ago

            What you think and what Microsoft supports aren’t correlated. Your supposition that there’s no software that works only on 8.1 is also not based in reality.

            • anotherengineer
            • 2 years ago

            Same. Win 8.1 is decent and has many improvements under the hood compared to Win7.

            However as I found out, there are more drivers available for win7 and win10 than Win 8.1!! Even for recently released things. I guess that huge enterprise market share of windows 7 must be a reason.

            • Krogoth
            • 2 years ago

            Pretty much but that’s limited to enterprise-tier stuff.

            Windows 7 support for non-enterprise tier stuff is starting to wane away. It is a repeat what had happened to XP a few years prior to its plug being fully pulled. Windows 7 will be dropped by the industry like a prom night baby once 2020 rolls around.

      • Kretschmer
      • 2 years ago

      AMD’s driver guy had to go back to school. The 9th grade is important!

    • Voldenuit
    • 2 years ago

    Moonlight Blade’s visuals and character creation look amazing, I had no idea it was available in the West (seen youtubes). Any idea how the game plays?

    • kuttan
    • 2 years ago

    AMD still haven’t fixed their RX 500 GPU usage report error for a long time now. In the GPU-Z sensor page, GPU usage is always stuck at 16% and Memory Controller load as 100%. When are they ever going to fix such an irritating bug ??

      • TwistedKestrel
      • 2 years ago

      Given how long it seems to currently take them to close bugs, I think they need to look at increasing the resources available to the driver team. The TF2 bug, while I’m glad it’s fixed, took months! I’m seeing Vega and Polaris owners complain about bugs existing for several consecutive releases (e.g. Overwatch bug since 17.7.1). With Vega having new quirks to iron out (and features still to implement, apparently) this isn’t going to get better anytime soon.

        • Jtaylor1986
        • 2 years ago

        Considering how much investment they have already made in their driver team in the recent past and how massively they have improved in the last 2 years you are being a bit unrealistic. Just completing the Vega drivers was a massive push and now that, that is largely done expect refinement/performance/bug fixes to be priority 1 between now and their big year end release in December.

        Although to your point AMD appears to be ramping up their R&D commensurate with their revenue improvements so you will probably get your wish to some extent.

      • DPete27
      • 2 years ago

      Consider the multitude of other more important changes/optimizations their driver team needs to work on. Especially if what you’re talking about is ONLY a reporting issue (sure you could argue that should be easy to fix also). I don’t have an RX5xx but my RX480 seems to report correctly FWIW…

      • DoomGuy64
      • 2 years ago

      AMD hasn’t had working low power memory states with dual monitors since the doom vulkan update either.

        • Shobai
        • 2 years ago

        That’s not correct, but only in the sense that it’s been an issue for far longer than that (speaking as an R9 290 owner).

          • DoomGuy64
          • 2 years ago

          390 user, it worked with CCC, and I only noticed it not working after AMD updated for Doom. Maybe not the Vulkan update, but the OpenGL update. Hasn’t worked since then, and it doesn’t seem like they’re interested in ever fixing it.

          Even with single monitor, it doesn’t work like it did with CCC, as the only low power state available is 150 mhz, and it constantly jumps between 1500 and 150.

          IMO, the only way this’ll ever get fixed is if a review site calls AMD out for deliberately ignoring this issue. wink wink, nudge nudge. I seem to recall a certain site called out Nvidia for a similar issue, but has been strangely silent on AMD’s problem.

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