Rumor: Samsung 970 and 980 NVMe SSDs could be on the way

The folks at Tom's Hardware dug up some juicy info about Samsung's upcoming NVMe SSDs. According to the site, the company is readying up two series of consumer SSDs labeled Samsung 970 and Samsung 980, forgoing the well-known Evo and Pro branding. The information is corroborated by a listing for a PM981 SSD that appeared at Vietnamese seller Saiback over the weekend. For reference, PM-series drives are Samsung's OEM counterparts of their similarly-numbered consumer SSDs.

Image source: Taobao.com

If the information at the Saiback store is taken at face value, the new drives offer tantalizing performance from Samsung's in-house Polaris 2 controller and latest 3D NAND flash chips. The smaller 512 GB model boasts sequential speeds of 3000 MB/s when reading and 1800 MB/s when writing. That drive touts 270K read IOPS and 420K write IOPS performance, to boot. The larger 1 TB model is faster, reading at up to 3200 MB/s and writing at as much as 2400 MB/s. Random performance is also faster with 380K read IOPS and 440K write IOPS.

Drives posted for sale on Chinese site Taobao have better photographs of what appears to be a thin metal heat spreader mounted atop the drive's controller. The drives are built to the familiar M.2-2280 form factor and use four PCIe 3.0 lanes.

The 512 GB Samsung PM981 is listed for sale at Saiback for 5.2 million Vietnamese Dong (about $230) and the 1 TB model is for sale for 9.9 million of the same currency units (about $435). Although these prices may not accurately reflect the pricing of the drives in the United States, the figures look reasonable enough for the performance and capacities on offer.

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    • ronch
    • 2 years ago

    Q: Who’s got a lot of Dongs?

    A: Kim Dong Un

    /ducks

      • albundy
      • 2 years ago

      oof. tough crowd.

    • drfish
    • 2 years ago

    Everyone was so distracted by Dongs that no one made any jokes about the 970’s poor performance in certain storage-heavy scenarios or that it should really be called a 448 GB drive.

    Not sure if proud or disappointed.

      • ronch
      • 2 years ago

      We get good products and bad products all the time. But Dongs seldom come around. Ease up, man.

        • K-L-Waster
        • 2 years ago

        So everyone is eager for more Dongs? Uh, ok.

        Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

    • psuedonymous
    • 2 years ago

    Seq. R/W and IOPS look broadly similar to the 960 Pro/Evo. However, Samsung have Z-NAND lurking in the wings offering dramatic latency reductions, which may give some tangible usability/responsiveness improvements even if spec-sheet speeds don’t improve much.

      • DancinJack
      • 2 years ago

      I HIGHLY doubt you’ll see responsiveness improvements on the desktop. We’re just at a point where not much is going to get quicker as far as response times. The 960 EVO has about an average 4K write latency of 0.02ms. It takes more than a millisecond to click the mouse.

      edit: spelling

        • Tumbleweed
        • 2 years ago

        #28: ”It takes more than a millisecond to click the mouse.”

        Pfft. Amateur! Those of us with twitch reflexes from the age of 80s arcades used to compete with each other in school on how fast we could start AND stop the stopwatch function on our fancy digital watches. We stopped bothering when we got to the point where we could all do it in 1 ms. Go play some Defender, kid. 🙂

    • ronch
    • 2 years ago

    Vietnam is where you go when you want to become a millionaire.

      • freebird
      • 2 years ago

      and when you want to see a Vietnam millionaire you go to a casino, because you can usually find several at any you walk into… and also plenty of un-millionaires like me…

    • DancinJack
    • 2 years ago

    Honestly surprised at all the dong comments below. Seriously.

      • willmore
      • 2 years ago

      Surprised that they were made or at how lame they are?

      [Insert joke about how small Vietnamese dongs are]

      • ronch
      • 2 years ago

      Dang!

      • Jigar
      • 2 years ago

      Sorry Dongcin Jack/Runs away

    • albundy
    • 2 years ago

    talk about getting the best bang for your Dong.

    • bthylafh
    • 2 years ago

    That’s a lot of dongs.

      • Wirko
      • 2 years ago

      Millions, to be exact.

        • caconym
        • 2 years ago

        MegaDongs.

        (MebiDongs?)

          • Wirko
          • 2 years ago

          About one dong per megabit.

          — my 2¢, er, half thousand dongs

      • Mr Bill
      • 2 years ago

      About 10 MegaDongs per TB

    • jwolberg
    • 2 years ago

    Is it just me or are the posted read sequential speed stats for the 512GB model less than the current 960 EVO?

      • thecoldanddarkone
      • 2 years ago

      I have a pm 961 (1TB), sm 961 (512 GB), and intel 750 (1.2TB). The differences in most usage are nill. Unless QD1 random reads take a huge leap, the difference in most loads will not be felt.

        • jwolberg
        • 2 years ago

        Yeah I’m not too worried about actual noticeable performance. I was just curious as to see why the second gen controller was slower than the current one. I was about to pull the trigger on a 512GB 960 EVO.

          • frenchy2k1
          • 2 years ago

          Higher density in Flash, leading to 512GB being the smaller size with less chips.
          The less chips, the less parallelism.

          We have seen that trend for a long time in SSD, leading to dropping the 64GB, then 128GB, and now the 256GB sizes.

            • jwolberg
            • 2 years ago

            Worth waiting for reviews in comparison to the 960 evo?

            • MOSFET
            • 2 years ago

            Not really, if your building/replacing soon, or don’t want to risk flash prices going up. 850 EVO is really fast. 960 EVO is really really fast – SATA bottleneck removed. 970 and 980 – Where do we go from here?

            • thecoldanddarkone
            • 2 years ago

            I think overall flash has leveled off. Ram on the other hand, has gone the entirely opposite direction. When my brother purchased his 6700k system he purchased 32 gigs for about $135. I purchased 32 gigs of ddr3 for about 145.

            This is what we have now…

            [url<]https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007611[/url<] 600327642

            • jwolberg
            • 2 years ago

            That’s kind of what I figured. I appreciate the advice.

          • cmrcmk
          • 2 years ago

          Really if they can hold the line on performance while lowering costs, that’s far more interesting keeping the same price at higher performance. Samsung’s current NVMe drives exceed the performance needs of 99.99% of users out there.

            • strangerguy
            • 2 years ago

            You mean “Samsung’s current SATA drives exceed the performance needs of 99.99% of users out there.”

            Heck, I’m willing to take a 50% peak performance hit if it meant a 2x larger drive at the same price.

        • JustAnEngineer
        • 2 years ago

        Heh. My two year-old desktop has to make do with an SM951.

    • DPete27
    • 2 years ago

    [quote<]5.2 million Vietnamese Dong[/quote<] Really? Dong? Really? 5.2 million = $230? Time to re-scale your currency. I'd hate to have to deal with the zeroes in a car/home/land purchase.

      • chuckula
      • 2 years ago

      DPETE27 SAID DONG!!!

      #Snitchin4Life

      • SubSeven
      • 2 years ago

      When that becomes an issue they switch to Ding.

      One Ding is a 10,000 Dongs.

        • Horshu
        • 2 years ago

        Dang!

          • willmore
          • 2 years ago

          Do’ah!

        • jihadjoe
        • 2 years ago

        I prefer caconym’s [s<]earlier[/s<] suggestion of having MegaDongs

    • chuckula
    • 2 years ago

    [quote<]Samsung's in-house Polaris 2 controller and latest 3D NAND flash chips.[/quote<] THANK YOU AMD!

      • mikewinddale
      • 2 years ago

      Can you please explain AMD’s role?

        • chuckula
        • 2 years ago

        Providing Samsung with the code name of Polaris of course!

        Truly the Wassoning is spreading across the globe.

          • K-L-Waster
          • 2 years ago

          Apparently they’re only providing the last generation though. The Vega NVME must be delayed until Raj gets back from sabbatical….

            • chuckula
            • 2 years ago

            #PoorVolta

            And by Volta I mean Optane.

      • ronch
      • 2 years ago

      Ding! Er, I mean, Dong!

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