Zen+ Ryzen CPU and an Asus X470 mobo show up in SiSoft database

The relentless rumor-mongers over at Videocardz spotted a listing in SiSoftware's hardware database for an as-yet-unannounced Ryzen CPU. The pre-release processor is listed in the database as having been installed in an Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero motherboard, a likewise-unannounced product. We already knew that a Ryzen refresh was coming before long, but this is the first appearance of the new hardware in the wild that we're aware of.

The new CPU is listed with the model name "ZD2600BBM68AF_38/34_Y." Videocardz is calling it the Ryzen 5 2600. As Jeff postulated in his piece about AMD's near-future plans, the purported Zen+ processor in the SiSoft database seems to be a small step up from its probable first-generation equivalent. Where the Ryzen 5 1600 runs its 6 cores and 12 threads at a base clock of 3.2 GHz and boost clock of 3.6 GHz, the supposed Ryzen 5 2600 is listed with the same configuration runing at 3.4 GHz base and 3.8 GHz boost. 

Don't pay too much attention to the performance data on the page. Whoever tested the machine was apparently running it with 2133 MT/s memory, and SiSoft's multimedia tests suffer for it badly. Judging from the SiSoft listing, there are no other changes to the chip relative to the Ryzen 5 1600. The core and thread count are the same, the cache sizes are the same, and the TDP—gleaned from the "BB" in the model name—is the same, too. The most interesting changes in Zen+, like Precision Boost 2, won't be evident from a listing like this anyway.

The motherboard in the listing is the Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi). Presumably this next iteration of the Asus ROG motherboard series will come equipped with an X470 chipset. AMD says the new chipset will be in some way "optimized for second-generation Ryzen CPUs" and that it should consume a bit less power than the existing X370. Otherwise, it will be compatible with first-generation chips, and assuming AMD holds true to its pre-release promises, Zen+ chips should work in 300-series motherboards.

Second-generation Ryzen chips and the accompanying X470 motherboards should be launching in April, so we have a bit to wait before we start seeing the new chips on store shelves. In the meantime, we'll keep you apprised of any further news on AMD's next chips, so stay tuned.

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    • Chrispy_
    • 2 years ago

    The vanilla R5 1600 was especially tasty because it had the double whammy of a decent cooler for free and a low 65W TDP. Ryzen 5 chips typically overclocked to ~4.0+ without voltage bumps but after that it was hard going with 4.2 being a decent result and 4.3 requiring expensive cooling setups.

    Here’s hoping that the 12nm process is good for 10% at least, with respect to the 1600 and 1600X successors.

    4GHz base clock and a 4.4GHz boost would make it distinctly better than the i5-8400. Given that the i5-8400 runs all cores at 3.8GHz, it’s very likely that the competitor for a Ryzen 5 1650X is the i5-8500 or 8600 that will likely manage a 4GHz all-core boost clock.

    Ryzen’s 10-15% IPC deficit in gaming scenarios means that it needs every last MHz if it wants to compete with the newer Coffee Lakes. At $260 there’s another problem, and that’s the 8600K which will clock to 5GHz, give or take. Productivity may still favour the 12 threads of the Ryzen5, but gamers will not be impressed with leaving potentially 20% performance on the table if AMD can’t hit those higher clocks.

    • ronch
    • 2 years ago

    Assuming IPC is up 5% over Zen 1.0 we may be looking at around 11% overall per thread/core performance improvement over the 1600. Hopefully it’ll be quite a bit more than that. Intel isn’t gonna sit still now that they’re feeling a wee bit threatened.

    • msroadkill612
    • 2 years ago

    afaik, lisa’s main hint about the 400 chipset is it’s pcie3 compatible.

    imo this alludes to an nvme port/s on the chipset’s shared bandwidth, much like intel has.

    • YukaKun
    • 2 years ago

    You know what would be very interesting to do? Like, really interesting? Is that, someone that can do reviews and has a 1600X laying around with a couple of 2133 sticks of DDR4 could make the same test giving a couple of assumptions and matching the clocks.

    Cheers!

    • ptsant
    • 2 years ago

    A 0.2GHz boost won’t do miracles but it will somewhat narrow the gap with intel chips. If they can manage +300-400MHz on the top end 2800X this might be good news. Especially if power stays the same with the new process.

      • Welch
      • 2 years ago

      200mhz x 6 cores isn’t too bad actually. The only major issue I’d have is if the floor rose but the ceiling stayed around the same 4.0Ghz. For these chips to be a home run they need to be able to make it to around 4.5 with minimal effort.

      Most people who bought the 1600 were doing it to overclock it as it usually was near or on par with the 1600x after being OC’d. I went with the 1600x because I didn’t want to play the silicon lottery this time and it was only $20 bucks more for the 1600x and I already had a cooler so.

        • Srsly_Bro
        • 2 years ago

        So? Did you omit part of the story, bro??

      • Concupiscence
      • 2 years ago

      This doesn’t look like bad news to me. It’s not the sexiest result at a glance, but given that XFR and turbo already goose base clocks by around 150 – 200 MHz on top of nominal frequency, even the 65W part could hit close to 4 GHz. I’ll be keen to see what the 95W 2000 series members can manage. For all of that, I’m still sticking with my Ryzen 1700 for the foreseeable future…

    • NTMBK
    • 2 years ago

    Yay, Kabyzen.

      • MOSFET
      • 2 years ago

      Nooo, Kaverzen. Godavarzen.

      Kabyzen will be in the next console.

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