Intel microcode update docs tip off possible ninth-gen Core CPUs

As part of its latest microcode update guidance document for the Spectre vulnerability, Intel may have intentionally or inadvertently tipped off the existence of several new Core processors. The microcode update guidance reveals that the Core i5-9400, Core i5-9400T, Core i5-9500, Core i5-9600, and Core i5-9600K are in the pipe. 

While I initially referred to these parts as “ninth-gen” Core CPUs, the company itself is classifying these chips as an extension of the existing eighth-gen Core family in its documents. If that's true, it'd be the first time in a long time that the first digit of the company's CPU model numbers didn't refer to the chip's generation—a practice Intel itself suggests is the proper one. Those chips will all use the current Coffee Lake die in a so-called “6+2” configuration, or six CPU cores and Gen9.5 GT2 graphics.

Other potential “ninth-generation” Core products could include the Core i3-9000 and Core i3-9100. Those parts will be quad-core chips with GT2 graphics, if Intel's documents are final. The guidance also reiterates the existence of as-yet-unreleased eighth-generation Core parts, including the i5-8650 and i5-8650K. Those parts have been in Intel CPU lists since late last year, but they haven't come to market yet.

Sadly, this slip of the PostScript pen doesn't confirm or deny the veracity of recent rumors suggesting range-topping Core i9-9900K or Core i7-9700K chips to come. Those parts might rely on as-yet-undocumented 8+2 Coffee Lake silicon, and given that the company has said chips with Spectre mitigations in silicon are coming this year, the 8+2 parts may not require a microcode patch to protect against the vulnerability and therefore wouldn't be in this document. We'll just have to sit tight and see what happens later this year. Hat tip to David Schor for the heads-up.

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    • rd94
    • 1 year ago

    Still rockin’ my Core i5-3570K. 😀

      • Ifalna
      • 1 year ago

      Same here. 6 years and still going strong. Wonder whether it’ll last 10.

    • HERETIC
    • 1 year ago

    That 8650 is looking like a sweet gaming CPU.
    With no HT, boost clocks should be good,and
    craptastic cooler should avoid throttling……

    • blastdoor
    • 1 year ago

    Version 9? No such thing. Everybody who’s anybody goes straight from 8 to X (or possibly 10) and then just sticks with it indefinitely.

      • Wirko
      • 1 year ago

      Ubuntu + SUSE + Mac os + ios = nobody, uh-hum?

      • ronch
      • 1 year ago

      Agreed. Even AMD did it. K7 -> K8 -> K10. K9 – canine, K10 – kitten. And who’s Kate?

        • Wirko
        • 1 year ago

        Kitten ate canine.

    • Ryu Connor
    • 1 year ago

    The initial link is busted.

    [url<]https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/sa00115-microcode-update-guidance.pdf[/url<]

      • chuckula
      • 1 year ago

      That’s the expurgated version that’s lacking the purported Coffee Lake parts.

        • Ryu Connor
        • 1 year ago

        Yeah.

        Regardless, you’re not going to get the old or new version of the PDF from Jeff’s ‘C:\Users\Jeffery\Documents’ folder.

    • elites2012
    • 1 year ago

    stop releasing chips if its going to be from the same family as the core2duo quad. at least AMD started the ryzen from a clean slate.

      • DPete27
      • 1 year ago

      Uhhh?

        • Redocbew
        • 1 year ago

        They are not leet.

          • tipoo
          • 1 year ago

          So 2012

      • tipoo
      • 1 year ago

      Question is, what specifically is being held back by a non clean sheet design, if enough aspects are tuned over time?

    • ozzuneoj
    • 1 year ago

    Meh, I’m waiting for the 12500K. I only upgrade every 10,000.

      • deruberhanyok
      • 1 year ago

      But that’s over 9,000 between upgrades!

    • Demetri
    • 1 year ago

    100-200mhz clock speed bumps from all the new SKUs.

    [url<]https://videocardz.com/76720/intel-reveals-9000-series-coffee-lake-s-specifications[/url<]

    • DancinJack
    • 1 year ago

    Are these not 8th gen parts? I mean, even the above chart says 8th gen, but you refer to these new chips as 9th gen. Any reason why?

      • Jeff Kampman
      • 1 year ago

      [url<]https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html[/url<]

        • chuckula
        • 1 year ago

        I think that this just confirms that Intel’s naming scheme is…

        (•_•)

        ( •_•)>⌐■-■

        (⌐■_■)

        [i<][b<]Melting Down[/i<][/b<]

          • Shobai
          • 1 year ago

          If you were to say “is in”, instead, you could then say ” Meltdown”.

    • tay
    • 1 year ago

    What does 4+2, 6+2 etc. mean. It’s impossible to keep track unless you’re [b<]really[/b<] keeping track.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 1 year ago

      Number after the plus refers to the iGPU. +2 is GT2, for example.

      • ronch
      • 1 year ago

      Reminds me of Kaveri and how they marketed its.. ‘core count’.

        • chuckula
        • 1 year ago

        [url<]https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7270/amd-series-a10-7870k-kaveri-refresh-apu-review/index.html[/url<] Next year RyZen 2 will only be AMD's second 12 core processor!

          • tay
          • 1 year ago

          Haha this is funny. Not sure why people reflexively downvote chuck. He’s right, especially because we know it’s somewhat tongue in cheek.

    • ronch
    • 1 year ago

    Good grief the 10nm delay sure is spawning a lot of Lakes. And now it seems Coffee Lake is still warm. Where’s Cascade Lake and Whisky Lake? Where’s Whisky Lake!! I WANT MY WHISKY!!!!

    Recap:
    14 nm: Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, Cascade Lake, Whisky Lake.
    10nm: Cannon Lake, Ice Lake, Tiger Lake.

    Gr8 Lakes!! I wonder how many rapids there’s gonna be.

    Edit – didn’t expect all this Intel from me, eh?

      • chuckula
      • 1 year ago

      That’s nothing, you should see the Land-o-Lakes TIM that Intel is using!

        • willmore
        • 1 year ago

        For our readers outside of the central midwestern states of the USA, “Land-o-Lakes” is a dairy food processor known for their butter.

          • AustinW
          • 1 year ago

          We have ’em on the east coast as well.

            • VincentHanna
            • 1 year ago

            And the West coast…

            • willmore
            • 1 year ago

            Ahh, good news. I don’t rememer seeing it on the east coast back when I lived there.

      • freebird
      • 1 year ago

      There is also supposedly a Cooper Lake on 14++nm slated for 2019-2020.

      [url<]https://wccftech.com/intel-cascade-lake-cooper-lake-14nm-ice-lake-10nm-xeons-multi-chip-package-rumors/[/url<] I guess I got down voted because I didn't call it by it's REAL name... POOPER LAKE. (and a stinky one at that, by the time it ships.)

      • Wirko
      • 1 year ago

      No, Intel didn’t expect all this intel from you.

      • phileasfogg
      • 1 year ago

      there’s also Tangle Lake but you won’t be seeing those in a desktop or notebook:

      [url<]https://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/computing/hardware/intels-new-path-to-quantum-computing[/url<]

        • uni-mitation
        • 1 year ago

        I hear they are having troubles with entanglement. Something about a cat inside the thing dead and alive at the same time. Anyways, it is probably a great surprise for those new owners.

        uni-mitation

      • tygrus
      • 1 year ago

      Some lakes are created by sink holes. Intel’s hopes and dreams have been disappearing into the seemingly bottomless pits of R&D expenditure, failures and extended delivery times.

    • barich
    • 1 year ago

    So apparently we’re going to have no idea what generation a CPU is actually from unless we look it up, since their model numbers no longer having anything to do with reality.

    Wrong thing to copy from the GPU manufacturers, Intel.

      • tipoo
      • 1 year ago

      Intel was already bad about that. Core M being reabsorbed into Core I, Celeron covering both Broadwell (good) and Braswell (hair pull), etc.

      I wonder how whack the names will be when Intel makes dedicated GPUs, lol

        • willmore
        • 1 year ago

        The Celeron parts had always used their own numbering system for extra levels of confusion.

          • Usacomp2k3
          • 1 year ago

          Fortunately most enthusiast don’t care about Celeron, and most non-enthusiast consumers aren’t going to care.

            • tipoo
            • 1 year ago

            Even a non enthusiast customer deserves to know the level of user experience they’re going to get, and it was night and day between the Braswell and Broadwell celerons.

    • ronch
    • 1 year ago

    What I’m really interested about… is a future chip called “SR”.

    • Duct Tape Dude
    • 1 year ago

    Interesting letting Coffee Lake span to over 9000.
    Must be in a hurry to devise a new naming scheme and boost their Google search volume.

      • tipoo
      • 1 year ago

      Instead of gold and silver, Vegeta and Goku

      …I hate that it would probably work on me

        • willmore
        • 1 year ago

        Nice Dragon Balls? i9 chips missing? Oh, I know how this ends!

      • HERETIC
      • 1 year ago

      I think our favorite chup maker is just fumbling around in the dark at the moment.
      Latest woes-
      [url<]https://www.semiaccurate.com/2018/07/02/intel-custom-foundrys-10nm-meltdown-is-crushing-a-20b-market-cap-tech-giant/[/url<]

    • chuckula
    • 1 year ago

    [quote<]Sadly, this slip of the PostScript pen doesn't confirm or deny the veracity of recent rumors suggesting range-topping Core i9-9900K or Core i7-9700K chips to come. Those parts might rely on as-yet-undocumented 8+2 Coffee Lake silicon, and given that the company has said chips with Spectre mitigations in silicon are coming this year, the 8+2 parts may not require a microcode patch to protect against the vulnerability and therefore wouldn't be in this document. [/quote<] 1. I hope Intel doesn't call an LGA-1151 chip an "i9" since that's just annoying. 2. It's possible that the 8 core Coffee Lake parts will have a hardware fix for Meltdown since that's pretty easy to implement before the chip is produced, but they will most likely still have microcode to help mitigate Spectre since those vulnerabilities aren't as easy to fix with a quick hardware update.

      • Spunjji
      • 1 year ago

      They have i9s in mobile now, so they’ve already established a beach-head on that particularly hellish island of prestige-creep.

      • jihadjoe
      • 1 year ago

      8 cores on mainstream desktop doesn’t really seem like enough to justify “i9” branding, I hope they don’t do it.

    • Sahrin
    • 1 year ago

    Apparently adding AMD GPUs to its product lineup has given Intel a wicked case of renaming sickness.

      • Spunjji
      • 1 year ago

      And yet not one AMD product included in this, most curious.

      Unless it’s a game of “they started it!” in which case, ahem, Nvidia?

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