AMD schedules “Next Horizon” event for November 6

A new AMD event has appeared on the company's investor relations website, as spotted by the eagle eyes at Anandtech. The company will be holding an event it calls "Next Horizon" on November 6. Although no details of this event accompany its page on the investor relations site, the "Horizon" name has some historical portent for past AMD events. The "New Horizon" presentation in December 2016 proved one of the more public demonstrations of the Zen architecture ahead of the chip's launch the following March, and it was the place where AMD revealed the Ryzen nameplate for its enthusiast CPUs with Zen silicon inside.

With that historical precedent in mind, AMD could be poised to reveal some details of the next architectural revision on its roadmap, code-named Zen 2. We could also learn more about the company's other 7-nm products, like the next-generation Radeon Instinct GPU the company has been teasing for some time. According to the earnings call transcript from AMD's most recent financial results, the company plans to talk about "innovation of AMD products and technologies, specifically designed for the datacenter on industry-leading 7-nanometer process technology" at Next Horizon. That could mean some Epyc news come next Tuesday, as well. We'll be keeping our eyes on it.

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    • blastdoor
    • 1 year ago

    Sounds like this is happening at noon Eastern time.

    So for Rome…. maybe 15% higher IPC, same clock speed, 16 cores per die, 4 die, 64 cores, 128 threads.

    Presumably no AVX512, but perhaps another vector unit or two to help compensate??

      • Anonymous Coward
      • 1 year ago

      If they deliver +15% IPC and twice the cores, that would blow my mind. It would be brave to even attempt something like that, IMO.

    • deruberhanyok
    • 1 year ago

    I’ve never really paid attention to this before, but is this short notice common in the industry?

    • UberGerbil
    • 1 year ago

    I still think they missed an opportunity to call the chips with integrated graphics HoRyzen.

      • jarder
      • 1 year ago

      But then the graphics part would be called “Ho”.

    • Questors
    • 1 year ago

    Appears to be an Intel shill site.

      • Jigar
      • 1 year ago

      You are on wrong website buddy, Wccftech is somewhere else.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 1 year ago

      YOU APPEAR TO BE AN INTEL SHILL SITE

    • Tristan
    • 1 year ago

    They will show Poor Vega 2 on 7nm. Forget about Zen 2 and Navi products annoucements.

    • CScottG
    • 1 year ago

    See, this is the proper way to run an AMD reveal event (..I’m told there’s no such thing as bad publicity – I mean I remembered it, and I can barely remember what I had to eat a few days ago.):

    [url<]https://youtu.be/eqCo0LTUhsE?t=229[/url<] ..but alas, no more Raja for AMD. (..maybe he can do this again for Intel in 2020?)

    • ronch
    • 1 year ago

    Crazy how AMD might actually reveal their 7nm parts ahead of Intel’s 10nm. Yes it’s not really 7nm and is probably more like 10nm, but it’s still 10nm, something Intel has been having much trouble putting together. This is synonymous to Nissan putting together the GT-R that’s able to pull alongside a Ferrari that costs many times more.

      • ermo
      • 1 year ago

      A better analogy would be a Porsche. Incidentally, the 911 Turbo was the benchmark for the original GT-R during its development.

      Meanwhile in the real world, AMD sponsors Ferrari’s F1 team. The world is a strange one sometimes.

        • ronch
        • 1 year ago

        I used Nissan because fewer people would expect them to pull up next to a Ferrari.

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 1 year ago

      And Intel’s 10nm isn’t going to be 10nm when it launches. It’s all in the marketing.

      • Ninjitsu
      • 1 year ago

      for the past 6 or 7 years that i’ve been reading this site, these car analogies have never ceased to make me groan…

        • Srsly_Bro
        • 1 year ago

        Agreed. I feel there needs to be a new benchmark that doesn’t have wheels, at least.

          • VincentHanna
          • 1 year ago

          Cars are one of the few things that:

          Benefit from a relatively healthy market/real competition
          Offer distinctive choices that are easily identifiable (easy to point to)
          Have a long history of major improvements;
          Haven’t changed all that much
          Are owned and understood by many people
          Are complicated in their own right,
          Are easilly plugged into complicated metaphors (because they are well understood)
          Are purpose built for a large variety of explicit purposes

          Changing from cars to boats would be like changing from gasoline to hydrogen fuel cells! You’d have to lay a foundation (of learning) and shift the consumer consciousness away from gasoline (cars) to Dilythium space boats!

          And now we are in space.

        • Anonymous Coward
        • 1 year ago

        Oooh, how about a reverse car analogy then? Here goes. All the big ‘merican diesel pickups are like HEDT processors… expensive and powerful, but few people are doing anything that such a machine actually helps them get done faster, and they can actually slow down common tasks while wasting resources.

          • VincentHanna
          • 1 year ago

          Diesel pickups aren’t that much more expensive than regular pickups, are they?

            • Anonymous Coward
            • 1 year ago

            Well, I don’t pay attention like I used to, but those big diesel motors were getting crazy expensive once they stopped being the slow and economical choice, and morphed into masculinity helpers. Understand, I really like manual transmissions and torquey interesting-sounding diesels, but at I dunno 300HP it was well on its way to madness. They literally started with motors that were down-tuned editions of metal that could be used in heavy commercial trucks, and by the time I lost interest, things had inverted so the [i<]pickups[/i<] had more power. I thought 230 was nice and I've driven such a motor some hours (7.3L powerstroke), then it was 300, eventually 400. Prices climbed and climbed. Nowhere was an efficient sensible diesel to be seen! The poor Cummins 5.9L had to be dropped, it was [i<]limp[/i<] in the face of the competition, nobody wanted a mere 300HP or whatever it topped at. (I could look that up, but so can you.) Combine this with everything going to 4 doors and short beds. Sort of image everyone getting [i<]really stupid[/i<] and spending their cash on 500W quad-die enthusiast Epycs to the point where they basically stop selling anything else, and a lot of the market drifts to Chromebooks. Kind of like that. Where were the sensible buyers? I guess everyone who bought Tacomas and cars? It was a festival of WTF that only America can pull off. Check out how it goes in Europe, its possible to buy whatever big pickup from the US, but all the toolmen run around in vans and van-meets-flatbeds. Seems like an increasing share of compact pickups in recent years. However I note its getting more popular with V6 diesels and 4 doors in those "little" pickups, in an echo from across the pond.

            • Srsly_Bro
            • 1 year ago

            I’ve seen several diesels with chips getting in the low to mid 20s at highway speeds and still relatively great mileage in town. It’s also how to drive it. My car is rated 22mpg City andi get around 30 (6 spd)

            • Anonymous Coward
            • 1 year ago

            Yeah they can do pretty well once up to speed, impressive how efficient larger (and longer) vehicles can be per volume. Equally impressive how fast a smaller car which is not efficient can burn gas, say a hot-motor AWD car. However as soon as a chip is involved, I assume some cheating as at work. They don’t get magic pixie dust powers and the carmakers aren’t burning extra fuel while offering less power because they are too dumb to write proper engine management software.

            That all said, whatever fuel economy you can get from a 450HP motor, you could get better from something sane, I guess the Ram Ecodiesel is the best example. If we take their claim of 27MPG at face value, it takes a [i<]really small[/i<] and efficient car to go twice the distance per fuel unit of choice. I guess you'd be looking at a passenger car with a 1.6L 4-banger. But, [i<]that all said[/i<], burning half the dinosaurs is a mighty kind thing to do for the planet.

    • sweatshopking
    • 1 year ago

    New gpus gonna launch with also useless and underwhelming features like Ray tracing that’ll be useless?

      • DancinJack
      • 1 year ago

      probably not

    • Chaserx
    • 1 year ago

    Zen 2 could very well be the base of my next build. Excited!

    • demani
    • 1 year ago

    You say “That could mean some Epyc news come next Tuesday” but I’m not sure I’d go that far. Bytchin’ news maybe, possibly just Myldly Ynterestying.

      • chuckula
      • 1 year ago

      AMD is a serious company that dozen’t appreciate your puns!

        • Mr Bill
        • 1 year ago

        Upcoming Arcturus GPU will be a supergiant piece of silicon.

          • derFunkenstein
          • 1 year ago

          It will rule this sector, or see it burnt to ash around it.

          /20-year-old StarCraft reference

      • derFunkenstein
      • 1 year ago

      Epyc + [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/66xaop/someone_made_a_real_bitchinfast_3d_2000/<]Bytchin Fast 3D 2000[/url<] confirmed.

        • psuedonymous
        • 1 year ago

        The $1200 halo product of it’s day, the first graphics card to feature Hardware Texture, Lighting, Sound, [i<]and[/i<] Smell!

          • Growler
          • 1 year ago

          The LMNOPRAM was the special sauce, though. It tore through the BungholioMark tests.

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 1 year ago

      It will be 2 Epyc, bro.

        • Tumbleweed
        • 1 year ago

        2 Epyc, 2 Furious

      • Eversor
      • 1 year ago

      The AMD software stack added Vega 7nm support last week. It is possible this an eve nt to unveil both Vega 7nm Frontier/Datacenter and Epyc 2.

      • Wirko
      • 1 year ago

      Thread of bad pun’s.

    • gerryg
    • 1 year ago

    I hope AMD are Epycally Ryzen to the occasion! Competition needs to be fierce.

    • Mr Bill
    • 1 year ago

    Development of Arcturus GPU to be announced.

    • Neutronbeam
    • 1 year ago

    Tsk, tsk…Jeff, you missed an easy opp to call it an “Event Horizon”.

    drfish wouldn’t have let that one go by. ;->

      • K-L-Waster
      • 1 year ago

      “Once you’ve been, there’s no going back!”

    • tipoo
    • 1 year ago

    “Joseph Moore – Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC
    Okay. Great. And then with regards to the 7-nanometer, I know you’re going to talk more about this as at the product launch. But can you talk about what 7-nanometer itself gives you? Do you expect there to be a higher sort of clock speed on the microprocessors and the GPUs? Is it a better transistor budget? Is it a better cost per transistor? Obviously, there’s a lot of writing on you guys being early in both segments on 7-nanometer. Can you just talk about the benefits of that?

    Lisa T. Su – Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    Yes, and we will go through this in a lot more detail on November 6.”

    Lisa went all “Eh, it’s close enough” on the investor call

    • DancinJack
    • 1 year ago

    These should be the biggest chips on “7nm” thus far, right? Will be cool to see how they perform.

    edit: that’s not to say you will get them next week or anything, but i’m sure they’ll have samples running at least.

      • tipoo
      • 1 year ago

      Transistor counts may be a bit wishy washy to compare, but if it budges past the A12X’s 10 billion transistors, sure. The 2080 did, on 12nm, if it has counts close to that it may, but I didn’t think it was thought to be directly in that class.

      • freebird
      • 1 year ago

      Vega 7nm will be the biggest chip, not Zen 2. Zen 2 will most likely be extremely small with Epyc 7nm being a multi-chip package of up to 8 zen2 cores and one memory/IO controller chip.

        • DancinJack
        • 1 year ago

        And that’s fine except Vega 7nm won’t be released before these chips.

    • chuckula
    • 1 year ago

    16 Core RyZen 2 on 7nm launching next Tuesday..,…………………

    CONFIRMED!!

      • Waco
      • 1 year ago

      While there’s no way that would happen, it would be hilarious as a response to the 9900K.

      EDIT: There have been rumors of a 64 core Epyc for months, the only way they could do that would be 16 core dies. I’m hopeful.

        • Eversor
        • 1 year ago

        Depending on real transistor size on Global Foundries vs TSMC, a 7nm chip would have transistors 1/3 the size of 12nm.

        So, 16 cores? Doesn’t seem like a problem. Will it actually make sense for desktops? 12 would still be interesting and I’m betting AMD will beat the IPC target they have set, which would be much more interesting.

        What we will probably see is an overhaul of the FPUs to be wider and AVX-512 compatible. Ryzen can also benefit a lot from continued improvements on RAM access latency, which is quite high compared to Intel Core.

        Edit: Love the down votes without comment. Those are the best threads!

          • DavidC1
          • 1 year ago

          Problem is not density. It’s power consumption. So even if its 3x the density, if the new process only gives 20% reduction in power, you’ll only be able to increase total resources by 25%(plus improved architecture).

          The power reductions they claim with new processes are best case scenario as well, running at a certain frequency and at certain power usage. The gains on processors like Ryzen will be a fraction of what they claim.

            • Eversor
            • 1 year ago

            This is true but you can optimize frequency/voltage to compensate, as it doesn’t scale linearly – which is the current situation with more cores vs frequency. If that is what’s interesting or not to this audience, is a whole other matter.

            Samsung and TSMC have published numbers for 7nm EUV and TSMC is in line with what you say, more area reduction than power or performance. Samsung’s numbers, if accurate, claim 50% less power for 7LPP vs 10LPE and 40% more dense. This compares to an expected around 50% reduction.

            As for TSMC 7nm products on the market, Apple seems to have managed around 58% of 10nm density with the A12. Marginal frequency improvements in this case indeed though (2.49 vs 2.39).

          • Geonerd
          • 1 year ago

          Wider FPU conformed! Thumbs up! 🙂

      • CScottG
      • 1 year ago

      FAKE NEWS! (..lol.)

      -you are now banned from Youtube, Twitter, and pretty much any other web “news” service.

    • Krogoth
    • 1 year ago

    TSMC 7NM IS A DUD!
    EPYC 2 WILL BE DISAPPOINTMENT OF 2019!

    INTEL WILL CONTINUE TO STORM ON WITH 10NM AND COOPER LAKE! AVX512 IS THE FUTURE!

    #PoorVega
    #PoorZen2
    #PoorNavi

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 1 year ago

      Krogoth is losing it y’all.

      Here he’s disrespecting the great Dr. Lisa Su’s CPU and he was just defending AMD in a reply to me this morning on the 1950x deal.

      I don’t even know what this guy stands for anymore.

      Krogoff, cause bro, you lost it.

        • Krogoth
        • 1 year ago

        Keep those down votes coming! 😉

        They see me trolling and they keep hatin’ cause I’m a shameless shill!

          • Srsly_Bro
          • 1 year ago

          And yet I have more down votes. Don’t be jealous, bro.

          • UnfriendlyFire
          • 1 year ago

          It’s been months since I’ve visited TR, and I’m proud to see you still continue to post away.

      • DoomGuy64
      • 1 year ago

      [url<]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxZPfMXtuF4[/url<]

      • Mr Bill
      • 1 year ago

      #PoorLibras
      #PoorArcturus
      #PoorRigal

      Heh I was only kidding about Arcturus being a thing but apparently, its a thing! I nominate Rigal for the next hottest star in the AMD stable.

    • Kretschmer
    • 1 year ago

    AMD purportedly to partner with a revived NeXT to take the enterprise by storm…you heard it here first, folks.

      • blastdoor
      • 1 year ago

      Are you saying the new Mac Pro will be Epyc?

    • DPete27
    • 1 year ago

    RX590 launch.

      • Srsly_Bro
      • 1 year ago

      Bro?? AMD has been saying it’s Epyc 2 will launch q4 ’18 to select partners and you think it’s about a rebranded rebrand of a rebrand instead?

      You been spending too much time with middle School kids in upvote bandwagon meme land. Come back, bro.

      #getrealrekt

        • K-L-Waster
        • 1 year ago

        Puhleeze.

        You noobs do realize it’s going to be the Radeon SSD R9 launch, rite?

          • Srsly_Bro
          • 1 year ago

          Lmao. Stop it.

        • DPete27
        • 1 year ago

        I’m not saying that the RX590 will be the only thing to launch (nor the most exciting). But the RX590 launch is imminent, there are even product box pics on the net.

          • Srsly_Bro
          • 1 year ago

          The 4-5 people in that market will be happy. I’m looking forward to Epyc 2.

            • ptsant
            • 1 year ago

            Many people buy $200-300 GPUs. When we had some competition, it used to be the norm.

            Vega cannot be made cheap, because of HBM. If a 590 improves by more than 30% on my 480 without absurd power consumption and costs $200-300, I would be tempted.

            • Soossi
            • 1 year ago

            Count me in to that 4-5 people waiting for RX590.

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