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AMD confirms Zen 3 “Vermeer” CPUs coming in 2020

We wrote earlier this week about rumored delays on AMD’s Zen 3 chips, with sources citing a move to a 5-nm process and strong sales of the current 3000-series Ryzen CPUs. While we were doubtful of those rumors and took them with enough salt to make our doctors worry, AMD has confirmed that they were just that–rumors. AMD’s Zen 3 chips are coming this year.

TechPowerUp reports that AMD confirmed in an official briefing yesterday that Zen 3 CPUs are on-track for a 2020 launch. TechPowerUp notes that the call was with AMD’s client-segment product managers who would only speak to their own product line–meaning that they’re talking about the mainstream “Vermeer” chips. Those are the ones we’ll be buying, presumably named something like Ryzen 4XXX, rather than the “Milan” HPC chips. AMD’s spokesperson specifically addressed the rumors, calling them “inaccurate.” AMD also confirmed this month that Zen 3 is indeed being built on TSMC’s 7-nm node, rather than switching to 5-nm as rumors suggested.

AMD still hasn’t formally announced the chips, though, so there’s a lot we don’t know. We don’t know what AMD will call them, though we can guess at that. We also don’t know how much AMD plans to ask for them or when they’ll be available. But at least we can plan for fall upgrades now that we know the chips are on track.

13 responses to “AMD confirms Zen 3 “Vermeer” CPUs coming in 2020

  1. Thank you for mentioning adoredtv. That’s good reading for the technically inclined.

  2. At least you can run an AVX-512 benchmark on it and feel superior to all the AMD fanboys who can’t do that.
     
    https://www.sisoftware.co.uk/2020/03/23/intel-core-gen10-icelake-ulv-i7-1065g7-review-benchmarks-cpu-avx512-performance/
     

     ICL with AVX512 support is a revolution in performance – which is exactly what we were hoping for; even at much lower clock we see anywhere between 33% all the way to over 2x (twice) faster within the same power limits (TDP/turbo)

  3. OK, so there’s one mistake (that’s mostly AMD’s fault) in my post: It’s the 4900HS. Excuse me for getting confused when the 3900 is a desktop-only 12 core MCM while the 4900 is a notebook-only APU that’s not even really a generation advanced from the CPU cores in the 3900. Oh but there are some meaningless letters at the end of the model numbers! That’s what I call clear model numbers that Intel could learn from!
     
    Anyway, the rest of your post is a flat-out lie and I know this because my source for the 20% performance beat — once again in a pre-production part with pre-production drivers vs. what is allegedly an on-sale part from AMD — is non other than good o’l Adored TV… you know, the greatest AMD propaganda outlet on the Internet. EVEN THEY POSTED IT.
     
    https://adoredtv.com/tiger-lake-xe-lp-graphics-runs-battlefield-v-at-20-higher-fps-than-renoir-4900hs/
     
    So please take a huge dose of STFU since you are literally lying through your teeth right now.
     
     
     

  4. There is no 3900HS Renoir. And no, I don’t see anything of Tiger Lake being 20% faster. Those 3DMark CPU scores were fake or at least not comparable due to different power tragets. There were also very poor 3DMark Tiger scores floating around. Tiger Lake uses Willow Cove. It’s probably 5% faster per clock than Ice Lake which is about 10% faster per clock than Zen 2. Tiger Lake clocks could be similar to Renoir. Now do the math yourself. 4C Tiger Lake will be way slower than 8C Renoir at full load and at the same TDP. And no, Tiger Lake doesn’t look impressive. It looks mediocre at best compared to Renoir. But Renoir won’t be the competition next year. The competition will be Van Gogh or Cezanne. Gosh, you guys are so naive. Stop being brainwashed by Intel marketing.

  5. It’s 20% faster than the 3900HS — the 35 watt mini-desktop version of Renoir — and I’ll generously allow that it’s a 25 watt Tiger Lake part even though it’s clearly in an ultrabook thin-n-light form factor.
     
    Oh, and that’s a pre-release driver of a brand new GPU architecture vs. Vega graphics that AMD has had 3 years (since launch assuming they never did anything pre-launch) to optimize.
     
    Yes, it is impressive, and I’m not even getting to those 3D Mark CPU scores where we’re back to a 4 core Tiger Lake matching 8-core 7nm AMD parts in an unrealistically multi-threaded friendly benchmark.

  6. idk what “what you pretend to wish for” means, but i’d sure like to see intel actually launch something truly interesting. if tiger lake is finally the intel chip that brings them back i’ll be happy to see it, cause it’s been half a decade since they launched something great. not a ton has changed in terms of general usage perf since haswell as far as an average user is concerned. battery life has generally improved but airs were doing like 10 hours back then too.

  7. Not really impressive. It looks like Renoir performance, at best. At probably twice the power consumption. And don’t forget, Renoir uses a cut down version of Vega. Not to break iGPU records, but to have an easy to integrate GPU which is very compact. Next year AMD will launch RDNA 2 based mobile processors with a lot more CUs. It will make Tiger Lake look like 10 year old tech.

  8. Interesting that Intel is going directly from 4-core Ice Lake mobile to 24-core Ice Lake server, I guess their 10nm yields must be OK now. Wouldn’t 6 or 8 cores mobile been an OK stop on this journey though?

  9. seriously though, intel needs to get something together cause boy is amd ahead right now. On a laptop or a desktop AMD is really performing. I have an ice lake cpu and am relatively underwhelmed with it.

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